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Post by Judge Sam on Jan 5, 2008 19:01:51 GMT -5
~ Episode IX ~ Nov. 12 - Day 37 – Johan is enjoying his position in the game: “I slowly gained Candy's trust. I've been aware and completely willing to be her pawn throughout most of the game because it's beneficial to both of us. She gets an extension of her will and I get the information I need to stay current on the game.” Johan Resurrects Gordy, setting off a chain of events. Until this point Candy was under the impression that Zander had been confirmed by Gordy. With Gordy coming back, this impression is discarded. Singe tells Gordy he has a role: the bodyguard. He asks Gordy to put him touch with the Fatemaker. Gordy tells Candy and they both suspect Singe is a spy.
Nov. 13 - Day 38 : Johan, believing Singe to be a Spy, sends him flowery messages to manipulate him. He later confides in Singe, telling him about being the Priest in hopes he will not Imprison him. Damon: “Everyone is following Candy like she's the pied-piper and no one seems to be questioning her logic or why she was the driving force behind Jeremiah. Everything about her is fishy and now Singe deserves another tick or two”
Nov. 14 - Day 39 : Fatemaker 9: “Who gets a Citizen Role Investigation: Bunni or Kip?” Candy chooses Kip and Gordy makes Kip promise to investigate Singe. Kip investigated Singe and is told Singe has a citizen role. Candy thinks they are both lying and tells Johan not to trust Singe. Singe and Johan PM back and forth about Johan's role. Johan grows to suspect Singe as well. He PMs Candy to tell her he his hiding information from Singe and that he doesn't trust Singe, but he SWITCHES THE NAME AND THE SUBJECT and Singe receives the message instead! Johan: “FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT FUCK!” Johan: “Just to clarify things: I might have made a slight mistake.” Singe flips out because he didn't want Candy to know his role. Johan then gets imprisoned and fingers point to Singe and Candy for betraying Johan.
Imprisonment IX. Judge Sam: “we had a very interesting situation regarding Imprisonment IX. Masaki got to pick and he was all over the place. First it was Summer 2 days before, then Candy 1 day before (which was the day of before it got postponed due to me being overwhelmed with work), then it switched to Faizah/Johan! I don't know how he ended up at that.” Johan is Imprisoned by Masaki because he is under the radar. Masaki did not know Johan was the Priest, or that Johan had mistakenly sent a message to Singe. Johan: “Note to self: When you suspect someone of being a spy, it's generally a bad idea to send them your suspicions detailing how you are lying to them in hopes to expose them in a private message.”
Nov. 15 - Day 40 : Exile IX-1, Mini Mole Game. Candy is the Mole wins Immunity from Imprisonment X and can make a new leaderboard. Summer gets 1st place, Hannah is the runner up. Singe: “I trusted Gordy. I told him my role two nights ago, asking him to tell no one. I really needed advice from him on who to protect. I figured he'd know who at least one Cit was, or have some ideas. He told my role to Johan and probably Candy. God knows who else. If I die, it is Gordy's fault. My first huge mistake in this game--trusting his judgment.” Candy: “Singe came up positive with a role. I'm devastated!” The vote is tied between Leon and Masaki, but Abrams idles out.
Nov. 16 - Day 41: Candy: “I still really really really really really really really suspect Singe. He has to be a spy. I can't work with him because I just know he's a spy. So I will try to drop hints that he's the role holder and see if the spies take care of him for me via imprisonment.” Because of this and the fact that Kip claimed Singe is a Citizen, Candy believes both to be Spies. She decides to exile Kip to confirm Singe’s role. She reveals herself as the Fatemaker in the Burg and explains most of the details of her role. Damon: “This has been the absolute most frustrating round in a game of Mafia ever.”
Nov. 17 - Day 42 : Exile IX-2. Bunni: “Okay. So, I found my tarot cards and I was playing around with them and I came up with something that made me think of spies. I just thought I'd make a note in my confessional about it in case it turns out to be true. I honestly don't believe in these things, so don't think I'm weird or something. Lol I got - The Fool, The Magician, and the Devil. So, the Zander is playing everyone the fool and he's a spy.” The vote comes down to 5-5-1, Kip VS. Masaki. Singe throws away his vote since he can’t vote for Masaki.
Nov. 18 - Day 43 : Exile IX-2 Revote. Masaki claims he is the “Vote Catcher” in order to avoid Exile. If he receives votes, he receives powers. The Orthodoxy want Kip to go. Faizah: “Plan is a go!!!! Kip goes tonight, then I reveal my "power" in which one of the remaining spies has a vowel as their last letter. That frames Bunni, Singe, AND Mistaki (who is a spy, but oh well) and it also confirms my identity as a "citizen"........this is Zander and I's game to lose at this point, we better not blow it!” Hannah switches her vote from Kip to Masaki, causing him to be eliminated.
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Post by Singe on Jan 7, 2008 12:24:03 GMT -5
Nov. 16 - Day 41: Candy: “I still really really really really really really really suspect Singe. He has to be a spy. I can't work with him because I just know he's a spy. So I will try to drop hints that he's the role holder and see if the spies take care of him for me via imprisonment.” Because of this and the fact that Kip claimed Singe is a Citizen, Candy believes both to be Spies. She decides to exile Kip to confirm Singe’s role. This was Candy's worst several days of play in the game. She outed a power role to Spies, which I think is just about the ultimate no-no. Not just for game reasons, but it's a shitty thing to do to somebody in a game where if you get Imprisoned, you LOSE.
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Post by Candy on Jan 7, 2008 19:36:30 GMT -5
I knew you were going to bring this up Singe and here's my response:
ACCEPT SOME FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU DID
The confirmed citizens watching in the LL thought you could be a spy. All 3 role holders thought you could be a spy and none of us trusted you one bit. We're not all idiots.
"Learn from your mistakes before they come back to smack you in the head with a salmon" or whatever unnecessary condescending rude comment you said to me a while back.
My reply is more rude than it needs to be but your attitude towards me really pisses me off.
During this episode, I posted in reference to Singe:
I strongly suspect this "confirmed citizen" is lying, and if they're lying, so are you Kip. You two are both spies. This ends tonight.
And you did lie Singe. You lied so much, to me, to Johan, and to Gordy - the three role holders. You changed your story every time we talked to you. It was so spyish, it was unbelievable.
You changed the details of your role in every conversation and every post.
ex: "The Doctor apparently works like a doctor from traditional mafia games. Gordy says he had the doctor protect Candy at Imprisonment IX when Johan was killed. If Candy was targeted for that kill, it would have resulted in a no-kill. The doctor gets one protect per Imprisonment at this point, can protect anyone including themself, and I believe cannot choose the same protect twice." (A lie)
ex: "I can protect 0-maximum # that Sam gives me every round" (and then turning around and saying Sam "randomly chose Bunni as a fifth protect" - which wouldn't happen if you could choose the number of people to protect like you claimed)
ex: You originally said you chose to protect Jeremiah for imprisonment 1 until Gordy and I pointed out that Sherri's imprisonment made this impossible. Then you changed your story.
ex: You claimed your protects intentionally fit the Fibonacci sequence but we didn't know about the Orthodoxy imprisonment that would miss in episode 5. (Misword? Your bad.)
ex: You said that your role in the second phase would result in a no-kill if your protect was targeted for imprisonment. Then I told you Sam said that someone will be imprisoned every episode and you backpedaled.
ex: You told Gordy Sam didn't give you enough time to protect anyone this episode and that Sam yelled at you at midnight to choose someone or else. (You totally lied here to Gordy of all people for no reason - Sam didn't post it at midnight, he gave you a whole day, he never gave me midnight deadlines, and he NEVER yelled at me (not even when I was late with the Fatemaking 2 choice! You lied about the way it was handled, which made it seem like you had no idea what it was like to have a role!)
You looked like a lying, scrambling spy.
Remember this from your interview Singe?
"If I'm manipulating, I'm a spy. If I'm not trying for real, I'm a spy. If my behavior smells funky, I'm a spy. I smell like strawberries this game, ergo I am a Cit."
In the words of one of my favorite game players of all time, Gordy, you smelled like rotten fish Singe. I saw it as my duty to make sure your lying sneaky spy ass was eliminated. It turns out you were a lying sneaky ass, just not a spy.
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Post by Zander on Jan 7, 2008 20:04:15 GMT -5
CANDYOWNAGE!!!!
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 4:38:23 GMT -5
And you did lie Singe. You lied so much, to me, to Johan, and to Gordy - the three role holders. You changed your story every time we talked to you. It was so spyish, it was unbelievable. The following are my PMs to you and Johan after Johan slipped up and I found out Gordy spilled the beans to both of you. I told Gordy the complete truth, as he was a confirmed citizen. Here's the rest of the PM record.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 4:39:17 GMT -5
johan, i am amused by your slip-up but i also feel bad for you because i know it's not fun to make a mistake. you cannot possibly know this, but you have lucked out by slipping up in the right direction. I am a citizen, and yes, I do have the role that Gordy described to you, which the dead people have incorrectly attributed to Cain. I am very upset with Gordy, as he swore to me he would tell no one about my role. I have been evaluating your posts last night and tonight trying to decide if I should tell you of my role--for obvious reasons I have told NO ONE until now, and I only told Gordy with hesitation. I knew he was a confirmed Citizen, but that he also has a big mouth. Apparently my trust was misplaced, and I can only hope he hasn't told a Spy about my role. When I received my role the first night it said I was a Citizen with special power "The Bodyguard", and that more information about the role would be revealed later. A day or two later I learned that I could protect a certain number of people each episode, and that number would increase over time. The spies would be told WHO I protected, and would have to choose Impris from the list of people left over after my protect. I could not protect the same person twice, nor protect myself. I protected 0, then 1, then 1, then I believe 2, then 3, then 5, then 8. On the last one (8) I could protect myself. On the last one, since I protected so many people, the spies only had about 6 people to choose from--I believe Kip, Masaki, Adelaide, Summer, Candy and someone else. It is somewhat shocking that they chose Adelaide from this small list, which leads me to believe that Candy and/or Summer may be one of the spies who were making the Impris decision. As I type this I realized one thing about everyone thinking Cain had this role. If he had, he would have told people, knowing he was about to get killed. And those people would have said something, or at least not voted him. But everyone but me voted for him just about. Also, Gordy said he and Cain were tight, but Cain never mentioned a role to Gordy. These are just two pieces of evidence to prove what I am telling you is true. I am the Bodyguard. I told Gordy about my role BECAUSE if he could point me to confirmed citizens, I could protect them. He knows no confirmed Citizens, or wouldn't tell me. Any dead Cits who think I'm a spy are dead wrong. I will talk to you for hours if I don't die tonight in order to convince you of the truth. I also want to learn if your role is truly a pro-Cit role as my instinct tells me it is. If you and I are two Cits with roles, we at least have the start of an alliance that may help us win this game. If you are a Spy, I will either die tonight or at the next impris, as I am certain my role is a threat to both groups of Spies. Damn Gordy. I can't believe I was foolish enough to trust him, not as a Cit, but to keep his mouth shut. Now I can only pray that you are a Cit. More later as I continue to consider all this. And thank you for your error in sending me that message--it has made many things clear to me in this game and I will do my best to make a difference before I am imprisoned. Again, you got lucky in that I am a Cit, but please be careful in the future. Singe
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 4:41:31 GMT -5
Johan tells me you know all, but you should hear it from me directly.
I'm The Bodyguard. I learned this the moment I learned I was a Cit, but didnt get details about the role for a few days. I was able to protect an increasing # of players from impris each day, never the same person twice. when the # reached 8, i was able to protect everyone in the game including myself. This means the Spies had to choose between {you, summer, adelaide, masaki, hannah, zander, kip}.
As you understand now, I suspect you and summer to be orthos cause if I was a spy one of you two would have probably gotten ganked out of that group of 7. The orthos chose adelaide over you and summer, which I find bizarre.
If I die, you and Johan will know: 1) That I was the Bodyguard 2) Everyone I protected each Imprisonment 3) That you two are the only two who knew my role unless Gordy is an even BIGGER idiot than I think he is.
I think Johan's role looks like a Cit role. I have no HUGE reason to trust you, Candy. He does for some inexplicable reason.
If I die, please make my role public and make sure everyone knows that only you two and Gordy knew about it. You will obviously be the leading suspects in my death, but if you are town you'll post the truth nonetheless.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 4:43:01 GMT -5
PM Titled: "My Bodyguard Protects:" (all 3 of these PMs were between 4-7PM November 14th)
Exile 1: no one 2: Jeremiah (to throw spies off my trail, cause i didnt trust jer) 3: Zander (same, plus i could tell he was a smart player) 4: gordy+bev (trusted gordy, bev's a good player) 5: kip, summer, adelaide (active-ish, somewhat trusted players) 6: masaki, candy, hannah, naomi, bunni (best players of the remaining, i picked kip who was ineligible, sam randomly chose bunni to fill the 5th slot) 7/8: everyone remaining (Madison,Faizah, Johan, Cain, Leon, Abrams, Damon) plus myself
tonight: no one (sam made me choose way too fast--monday night, and i didnt have time to make an intelligent choice so i protected no one)
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 5:31:31 GMT -5
OK, Candy, so I just reviewed all three of those PMs I sent you and Johan detailing my role, and there's not a single lie in any of them. I told you the complete truth. Now as for Gordy telling you upon his return that the Loser's Lounge "thought Singe was a Spy and wanted him out," that has absolutely no bearing on the judgment you had to make here about my role. The LL never got to see the information you and Johan got to see about my role. They never even knew there was a Bodyguard. This was YOUR decision to make, and you only had one person to consult with: Gordy. Candy: "Singe came up positive with a role. I'm devastated! I really want to have Gordy post something for me outting Singe's role but Gordy wouldn't do that. He believes Singe. I really hate Singe right now. He betrayed Johan and set me up." spies4Candy: LL wants him out spies4Candy: We take him out spies4Candy: Period. You made a judgment call, it was horribly wrong, and then you leaked the fact I had a role to Zander, Masaki and Faizah, my top three suspects at the time. And of course they all knew I was telling the truth, because all three knew a Bodyguard had been blocking their kills for eight days. It's interesting to see how they played you. Zander told you you were wrong: spies4Zander: Cause Singe is your role claimant? spies4Candy: Maybe spies4Zander: Do you know how ridiculous it would be if they were spy partners? spies4Candy: How ridiculous would it be? spies4Zander: Extremely. They've been fairly obvious about trusting one another all game spies4Zander: I trust you Candy, but I don't trust this plan. It's not worth letting Kip leave and Masaki stay, in my mind... Faizah worked you for the role: spies4Faizah: will you tell me now who the role person is that Kip said? And Masaki told you you'd naively given away the role already: spies4Masaki: The person you said Kip investigated spies4Masaki: From what you have told me, my list is already narrowed down spies4Masaki: Not Bunni spies4Masaki: Not you spies4Masaki: Not me spies4Masaki: Not Kip spies4Candy: Which I am FINE with because this person is a LIAR spies4Masaki: You're being too certain of yourself spies4Masaki: You COULD be wrong spies4Masaki: And you also told me that this person did NOT want to vote Kip spies4Masaki: That REALLY narrows it down spies4Masaki: So you're giving out too much info! :-) spies4Candy: Duh spies4Candy: I want this person gone. spies4Candy: NOw. spies4Masaki: *sigh*! spies4Candy: I know spies4Masaki: I'll remember that when I roleclaim spies4Candy: "What if they really do have a role" spies4Masaki: spies4Candy: If this person really does have a role know what? spies4Candy: I'm still not going to regret it spies4Candy: They are #1 on my suspect list spies4Candy: And if they get imprisoned, better for me spies4Masaki: wtf spies4Masaki: It's a CITIZEN role investigation spies4Masaki: Candy, if you were that certain spies4Masaki: You would not be hiding the name spies4Masaki: You know there's a chance you're wrong spies4Candy: Yeah spies4Candy: Which is why I would never ACTUALLY SAY the name spies4Candy: But I'll drop hints Finally, from your confessional: "I still really really really really really really really suspect Singe. He has to be a spy. I can't work with him because I just know he's a spy. So I will try to drop hints that he's the role holder and see if the spies take care of him for me via imprisonment." I told you the 100% truth in PMs about my role, you chose not to believe me, and you outed my role to all three Spies. You could have played it plenty of other ways, more conservatively, but you didn't. Ending any chance I had of winning the game, maliciously. Thanks. Total CANDYOWNAGE, right. Classy. You trying to blame me for what you did is ridiculous.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 5:47:01 GMT -5
Is this the only time a Cit has intentionally handed a Role to the Spies in this series?
Has a Cit ever even handed a Role to the Spies accidentally?
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Post by Summer on Jan 8, 2008 13:00:45 GMT -5
This game was pretty unique that only half the role holders revealed their roles to Spies, no joke.
In Spies 1 there were 3 roles, including 2 counteragents. One role holder never revealed he had a role, even though it could have saved him from his exile. The counteragents never revealed their roles to the Spies and every citizen they investigated kept quiet too. In retrospect, that's really incredible. --- Spies 2 was a complicated situation.
There was a role that every player could bid on (which gave the role holder an extra bid at exile). Since everyone was allowed to bid on it, everyone knew about the role. Davoni told everyone who won the role, but it was also obvious when the role holder failed to vote in an exile and received the extra vote too.
Tiffany, the Gambler, revealed her role to a Spy, and so did Jenna, the Card Reader (she inherited her role from a Spy ... long story).
A Spy had a role, but the citizens had no idea. --- In Spies 3, all 5 role holders told Spies about their roles themselves. Matt (spies4Kip) even gave his role to a Spy. That was pretty pathetic. But as a Spy, I loved it. We knew about all the roles by round 4, before many citizens did. --- Then in this game, Gordy revealed his role to 2 Spies, and Johan tried in some bizarre way to use his to trap Spies? (Trey, good god, what were you thinking?) But there was this homicidal square of distrust between the 4 role holders and I'm surprised it didn't blow up in everyone's faces (though since all 4 were imprisoned, it sort of did).
The Orthodoxy kept relatively quiet about their "roles"/powers, though you could tell Faizah was itching to tell everyone (LOL).
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Post by Zander on Jan 8, 2008 13:59:00 GMT -5
Actually in Spies 3, the only people that revealed their roles to a spy were me (Tenchi first, then Jess, then publicly), Trina (Bebe, Claire, then publicly), and Taylor (I think, to Bebe).
Shane revealed his role to Jack and then Jack basically gave up Shane's role publicly.
Miles revealed his role to me and I took it public because I thought it was a made up role (This also took the game over the normal 4 roles) and before then I was so sure he was a spy.
So all roles except for Taylor's Gift Giver were actually taken public, but for a while she did manage to keep it secret, I think until Trina told you about it.
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Post by Summer on Jan 8, 2008 14:10:47 GMT -5
Wrong.
Shane - Revealed to Bebe (I called him out on it and he spilled an hour after he saved Anneliese from imprisonment.).
Miles - Revealed his role to Raphael way before Anneliese was imprisoned.
Taylor - Revealed to Raphael before Bebe (she told Jessica and me at the same time during episode 5 but she told Raphael first).
Anneliese - Revealed to Jessica and Tenchi super early
Trina - Revealed to Bebe
All 5 role holders made their roles known to the Spies in Spies 3. It was delicious.
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Post by Zander on Jan 8, 2008 14:19:34 GMT -5
Wow... *Donkeypunches Taylor for not revealing to ME until Trina did it right as she used Do or Die*
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Post by Candy on Jan 8, 2008 19:32:30 GMT -5
Singe, I described five different lies you told us. That was just off the top of my head. It's there all over the board and the conversations threads. You're in denial.
You lied at times and you got details of your own damn role wrong intentionally and unintentionally. You weren't smart enough to handle your own role reveal without incriminating yourself. WTF!
Shifting into panic mode and trying to exile me (until I role claimed and even then you were scrambling - "what if Abrams was the real Fatemaker?" and feeding the trolls) didn't help you either. And as for roles, you revealed yours for no reason. No one was trying to exile you in episode X. You tried to psych the spies out and all it did was push you ahead of me in the pecking order. You caused your own imprisonment. Who knows, I could've been imprisoned in episode XI instead and you could've exiled Zander to win (not that you would have since you suspected Leon).
Next time make sure you get your facts straight especially when the facts actually incriminate your own ass. If you;re reading this because you want to play again consider this my version of tough love, except without the love part.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 19:54:29 GMT -5
Yeah, nice try again. Here's how it went down. 1) I told you and Gordy the complete truth. 2) You didn't believe me, and revealed my role to all three spies. 3) Kip inv'd me, you chose not to believe him. 4) I started lying TO THE SPIES in the Burg to protect myself from getting Imprisoned. The main reason I CONSIDERED exiling you (and note, I was still on the fence about it, even before you claimed, unlike your stupid, stubborn ass) was because you REFUSED to consider my role might be real, pretty much from moment one. I revealed my role in Ep X because: a) The three Spies already knew b) I hoped that lying about the self-protect details would buy me a day Basically, Candy, you're not grasping the reasoning behind the lies I told the Spies AFTER you chose to out me. Which makes you the dense one, not me. This is nothing new, however, because you were wrong about SO, SO much in this game. * Cain--guilty * Kip--guilty * Hannah--guilty * Bunni--guilty * Singe--guilty * Zander--circle of trust I appreciate the lecture on game intelligence. Coming from you, it's a real hoot. Oh, and congratulations on being the first player ever to intentionally out another Citizen role. I'm not sure whether the word "tacky", "stupid" or something harsher most appropriately applies. I'd go on demonstrating how you played an inferior game to me, but there's already a poll of our peers that shows you did. 9 votes SInge best player, 7 Candy, or some shit like that. Oops. Fortunately, I think the credit for victory should be shared amongst all Cits, so you can go hide in the corner with your 32.4% of the vote while I share my accolades with the people who deserve it. (Even the Spies who helped us win! ) ps. You know those challenges you love to crow about? You wouldn't have won a single one if I was up against you. Pat yourself on the back while you can, cause you'll have your hat handed to you in Spies5, babe. *cackles*
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Post by Candy on Jan 8, 2008 20:07:00 GMT -5
And I suppose you're smarter for voting 3 times in a row for Leon? Or for bandwagoning on Martha? Or trying to exile me? Or for cursing out Gordy without thinking about what he was doing? Or bad mouthing the LL people when they were out of the game? Etc.
I laugh at your claim that you would have beat me in the challenges. I wish you had played the Mole so I could have watched you tell everyone and their mothers "You're coming off molelish" or "That's a mole tell right there" or "You're showing mole around the edges". If Gordy, Mistaki, Kip, Faizah, Bunni and Hannah couldn't peg me what makes you think you could when you had such a shitty read on me all game?
Also I love how your confessionals back up what your claims that you totally knew all along who the 3 spies were (oh wait they don't) and you played your role cool (oh wait you didn't) because I remember little PMs from you that went like this:
die. explain or die.
You think you're such a uber competitor. Maybe you are. Maybe next time you'll smell like strawberries and we'll join forces instead of trying to throw each other under the bus at every opportunity. Or maybe you'll play it exactly the same way, like KING SINGE (ALL HAIL!!!!!!), and even the people who like you hate your arrogance.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 20:19:29 GMT -5
I never said I was right about everything this game. This episode just happened to be one where all the stars aligned and I nailed all three Spies, and spotted Cain/Kip/Bunni-Cits.
The difference between you and me? I don't insult other players unless they insult others first. You've talked trash about Kip, Bunni, Damon, etc for months now and I'm thoroughly enjoying giving you a taste of your own medicine.
For every one person who finds me arrogant for smacking you around a little, there are three cheering me on. *winks*
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 20:24:17 GMT -5
If Gordy, Mistaki, Kip, Faizah, Bunni and Hannah couldn't peg me what makes you think you could when you had such a shitty read on me all game? I think my read on you was pretty solid all game. "An asset to the town, probably not a spy but dangerous if she is so look out, a terrible choice for exile." That is, until you became the first Citizen ever to out a Citizen role, then I had to reconsider your alignment. I couldn't FATHOM that a Citizen would do something so callous and stupid.
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Post by Summer on Jan 8, 2008 20:32:30 GMT -5
If you two ladies are finished catfighting ...
I would like to remind you that it doesn't matter who beats who in the next set of challenges because you will BOTH lose to me!
I am already looking into hiring a chimpanzee for next time in case I need a third warm body for any group activities.
ALSO
THE DRAMA POLICE ARE ON DUTY. Once we are finished with our timbits, we may come back to derail this thread.
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Post by Singe on Jan 8, 2008 20:35:48 GMT -5
Yes, DC, but everyone loves losing to a gracious winner like yourself, in fact I'll run up the flag and hand you first prize right now.
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Post by Summer on Jan 8, 2008 20:41:42 GMT -5
More doughnuts? Cops love doughnuts.
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Post by Zander on Jan 8, 2008 22:26:00 GMT -5
OMG donuts taste so good. I really like Boston Creme ones.
The powder ones get everywhere!
What are your thoughts on donuts?! Explain.
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Post by Sherri on Jan 9, 2008 1:02:20 GMT -5
Wrong. Shane - Revealed to Bebe (I called him out on it and he spilled an hour after he saved Anneliese from imprisonment.). Miles - Revealed his role to Raphael way before Anneliese was imprisoned. Taylor - Revealed to Raphael before Bebe (she told Jessica and me at the same time during episode 5 but she told Raphael first). Anneliese - Revealed to Jessica and Tenchi super early Trina - Revealed to Bebe All 5 role holders made their roles known to the Spies in Spies 3. It was delicious. Yummy yum yum!!!
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
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Post by Masaki on Jan 9, 2008 2:47:13 GMT -5
Candy claiming she wanted Singe to be gotten rid of regardless of the Citizen Role Investigation's proven validity definitely blew my mind. Kind of funny how she lied about it in the Burg the following day. I could see exiling Kip to test the investigation. I could see disbelieving the roleclaim. I can't see the legitimization behind dropping so many hints to me, and not caring about Singe's elimination after the investigation's confirmed validity.
But hey, we all make mistakes, right? I sure as hell have made my fair share of them the past two games. Well, apparently, Candy, you think you're above having your actions being questioned or criticized. I stated this in my response to you in a previous thread, where you took a joking comment of mine completely the wrong way and threw it in my face. You're doing it again. Why? What is so wrong with people criticizing you? If you disagree, that's fine. But don't be a complete immature brat about it. It's a damn game. The game is over. You didn't play a flawless game. No-one did. No-one is perfect(except Sam). That doesn't mean you're any worse of a person, but it doesn't mean you're some sort of Godess who's every move was the right one. So in your own words, get over it!!!
And now I move from a moderate tone to more of a blunt one.
You really have absolutely no place calling anyone arrogant. With the possible exception of Arthur(who I do not know out of character), you are the quite easily the most consistently arrogant and rude player I've seen in the past two games to a large quantity of other players. Singe made a comment on your gameplay. He did not insult you in his initial post. No, REALLY! He didn't. You've criticized other people in much, MUCH more over-the-top ways, and for you to give the kind of response you did and cry about him being arrogant is the most laughable thing I've heard all year. Then again, it's only the 9th of January, so maybe someone will top it off before '09.
We'll see.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Jan 9, 2008 3:09:36 GMT -5
OMG donuts taste so good. I really like Boston Creme ones. The powder ones get everywhere! What are your thoughts on donuts?! Explain. Sorry, Zander, your employment with the Drama Police has been terminated for being a candy-ass fanboy.
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
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Post by Zander on Jan 9, 2008 13:24:32 GMT -5
*Sigh* Everyone's sarcasm meters are so far off lately. I wasn't supporting Candy, and quite frankly Singe, I think I'm allowed to be a "fanboy" of whomever I want. Just because I thought Candy played the best citizen game and was the best citizen doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything she's saying, either. And that "CANDYOWNAGE" response was to a comment about gameplay, not personal attacks.
Don't drag me into it when I actually didn't do anything.
And as far as Masaki's comment about Candy attacking Singe personally after he commented on her gameplay, though it may be a jaded opinion coming from me, Kate (Damon) basically did the same thing to me...
I think it's something with the women!
*HIDES*
KIDDING
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
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Post by Zander on Jan 9, 2008 13:29:01 GMT -5
So, about those donuts...
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Candy
Candy
MVP! Winner of Spies 4!!!
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Post by Candy on Jan 9, 2008 17:16:33 GMT -5
Singe: You're in denial and you don't listen to criticism from anyone. You don't learn from your mistakes since you don't think you make any mistakes at all. Please don't change, because you have made it easy for everyone to figure out how to defeat you in future games.
Mistaki: Since Kip was never confirmed as a cit and we didn't know the identity of the 2 remaining Orthodoxy spies in exile IX-2, the citizen investigation wasn't proven valid (Kip and Singe still could have been the Orthodoxy together, but the only way Singe was a spy was if Kip was too). As soon as Faizah was exiled in exile X and proven to be a spy Singe went "See I'm a confirmed citizen". Before that he had no proof and I had very few reasons to believe him after all his lying and scrambling and backpedaling and panicking. Maybe it blows your mind that I didn't trust Singe but you did know there was a bodyguard role for sure. But until Singe was proven to be a citizen in exile X I thought he was a spy and wanted him eliminated.
As for all the other false and fake insults both of you are throwing at me: I don't give a fuck because you're wrong. I trash talked? Scroll up and reread to see who's trash talking. I'm more arrogant and rude than Singe? FFS. Neither of you know me. Sam said that the burg this game was divided between players who love me and those who the mere mention of the name "Candy" sends bile rising in their mouths. I like that. What I don't like is that the parties in the second camp view it as their obligation to trash me in posts (and yes that includes you Mistaki, considering what you told me about your post-Spies 3 experience. Tsk shame on you).
(For old time's sake:)
WHATEVER!
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Jan 9, 2008 17:23:50 GMT -5
You were the only person who mistrusted me enough to throw me to the dogs. Which was totally classless and game-ending for me. You seem to be missing that, which is not surprising since your head finds its home in the sand quite often. Ask Johan or Gordy if they would have been classless enough to make my role known to the Spies. They'll likely tell you you played it terribly and heartlessly. You could have kept an eye on me, but instead you gave me to the Spies. You suck. EARTH TO CANDY: Your cocky, stubborn ass handed a Cit Role to the Spies. This is something no Cit has ever done before intentionally, but you did. I will not forgive you for that, because it's a sign that you care more about your ego than about fairness or anyone else's rights to play the game. And you're the one who starts trashtalk around here--ffs it was your chosen persona. I just enjoy piling on when you do and making you look like the retard you are.
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