Episode II Conversations

[Zander]

[Zander]

spies4Adelaide (1:34:27 PM): omg hey zander
spies4Adelaide (1:34:29 PM): are you happy now!?
spies4Zander (1:34:32 PM): hey there
spies4Zander (1:34:41 PM): Adelaide, honestly, I think you should calm down
spies4Zander (1:34:46 PM): NONE of us are happy that Martha was not a spy
spies4Adelaide (1:35:10 PM): okay ill calm down if you get some common sense lolkbye
spies4Zander (1:35:10 PM): And your attitude and Lloyd's attitudes only seem to be getting people angry!
spies4Zander (1:35:18 PM): Do you know why I voted for Martha?
spies4Zander (1:35:35 PM): Everyone knows I have no problem voting inactives, if a better suspect does not come along
spies4Zander (1:36:05 PM): In my FIRST AND ONLY conversation with Martha, just about an hour before exile, she contradicted herself more than once about why she chose to protect Abrams, under what circumstances, and what her goals were
spies4Zander (1:36:12 PM): fully contradicted
spies4Zander (1:36:44 PM): and then she said "If a fellow spy were in trouble, the other spies would take drastic measures to save them", after she pushed for the vote to be taken off of Abrams before she was even in trouble! How is that not suspicious, Adelaide, HOW?
spies4Zander (1:37:48 PM): If you can't at least respect people enough to make their own decisions, then you shouldn't be running around screaming at them. I'm not happy that I was wrong about Martha, but if she didn't make herself look so suspicious and contradict what she wanted and what her definition of the truth was, then I would have voted Kiyoshi too, who my vote was locked in on for about 12 hours before that
spies4Zander (1:38:18 PM): So check yourself before running around and saying people have no common sense
spies4Adelaide (1:40:47 PM): Well its the FIRST exile, so what would a spy do FIRST exile? Would they do half the stuff Martha does? And since you have been accused that means you have played Sam's game before. So you would know he doesnt cast idiots as spies
spies4Zander (1:41:02 PM): Martha wasn't an idiot.
spies4Zander (1:41:21 PM): Martha is one of the smartest spies players that exists - she told everyone her identity at exile anyway
spies4Adelaide (1:41:26 PM): She clearly was you just said she contradicted herself and said "If a fellow spy were in trouble, the other spies would take drastic measures to save them",
spies4Zander (1:41:29 PM): You don't have to be an idiot to contradict yourself
spies4Adelaide (1:41:46 PM): how is "If a fellow spy were in trouble, the other spies would take drastic measures to save them", suspicious anyway?
spies4Zander (1:41:51 PM): It's a simple mistake even the best of players could make - but spies tend to do this more than other players
spies4Adelaide (1:41:56 PM): that just shows naivity, a spy wouldnt say that
spies4Zander (1:42:01 PM): what do other players have to "slip up" or contradict themselves on?
spies4Zander (1:42:24 PM): SPIES SAY ANYTHING ADELAIDE! If you aren't willing to accept that, we will never win
spies4Zander (1:42:42 PM): Spies ACT naive, Spies SAY what you want them to say, to stay in the game
spies4Zander (1:42:46 PM): Wisen up or we're all screwed
spies4Adelaide (1:42:52 PM): Yes but it was the first exile and nobody said ENOUGH to cause any suspicion
spies4Zander (1:43:03 PM): Are you kidding me?!?!?!?
spies4Adelaide (1:43:11 PM): I seem to remember you saying you were against voting inactives?
spies4Zander (1:43:17 PM): 3 contradictions in a desperate first conversation isn't enough for me to go "Okay, Martha is clearly up to something"
spies4Zander (1:43:33 PM): I never said I was against voting inactives, why are you putting words in my mouth?
spies4Adelaide (1:43:36 PM): what were these "contradictions"? then?
spies4Zander (1:43:36 PM): Go check the thread and the facts
spies4Adelaide (1:43:43 PM): i checked the thread
spies4Zander (1:43:46 PM): Let me copy paste for you while you read what I said in that burg thread
spies4Zander (1:43:51 PM): I never said I was against voting inactives
spies4Adelaide (1:44:33 PM): ye actually you didnt
spies4Adelaide (1:44:47 PM): i thought you did cos once you said "you know where i stand on voting inactives"
spies4Adelaide (1:44:57 PM): madison did something very suspicious did uc
spies4Zander (1:45:07 PM): I'd prefer if you stopped pretending like you know me next time, Adelaide.
spies4Zander (1:45:24 PM): I know what I believe and throwing words in my mouth is not the best way to gain my trust
spies4Adelaide (1:45:33 PM): Did ralph affect your decision
spies4Zander (1:45:34 PM): And yes, I saw what Madison did
spies4Zander (1:45:40 PM): No, Martha affected my decision
spies4Adelaide (1:45:59 PM): k just wondering cos he seemed to have flipped flopped alot
spies4Zander (1:46:00 PM): Although I ultimately did listen to my family, I would not have voted Martha if I felt like it was not warranted
spies4Zander (1:46:04 PM): He did
spies4Adelaide (1:46:27 PM): im not valuing his opinion or bev's anymore
spies4Zander (1:46:50 PM): Let me post some conversation bits. They may be hard to follow since they are saved in my confessional so hold on
spies4Zander (1:47:03 PM): spies4Martha (9:23:49 PM): Abrams was on the hot seat for a long time.
spies4Martha (9:24:00 PM): He's supposed to be a spy, yet nobody suggested another credible suspect.
spies4Martha (9:24:24 PM): Nobody ever defended him, not that the spies would be likely to do that overtly at this stage.
spies4Zander (1:47:15 PM): spies4Zander (9:24:37 PM): From what Beverly told me, actually, you did
spies4Martha (9:24:41 PM): If one of their own was in danger, the spies would take certain measures.
spies4Martha (9:24:50 PM): Yes, but I was in the same position as Abrams at that stage.
spies4Zander (1:47:33 PM): So what we see right there is Martha saying she only defended Abrams when they were both up for exile, correct?
spies4Zander (1:47:40 PM): Let me scroll down a little
spies4Zander (1:47:58 PM): spies4Zander (9:31:57 PM): You said that Spies would take drastic measures to save a fellow spy
spies4Martha (9:32:05 PM): Did I?
spies4Zander (9:32:12 PM): and you were not in the same boat with Abrams before you defended him. From what I've heard from many people...
spies4Zander (1:48:18 PM): spies4Martha (9:32:29 PM): They didn't do anything, that's my point.
spies4Zander (9:32:44 PM): Is that you dug your own grave and then tried to fight your way out of it... But trying to take Abrams off the block was not necessary for your own survival
spies4Zander (9:33:00 PM): What I'm saying is, if you are a spy, saving Abrams could have been your "certain measure"
spies4Zander (1:48:32 PM): spies4Martha (9:33:06 PM): OK... I got into the grave in the first place BECAUSE I was defending Abrams.
spies4Zander (9:33:07 PM): you certainly turned the vote on a dime...
spies4Martha (9:33:23 PM): People thought we were acting together because I was defending him.
spies4Zander (9:33:52 PM): Martha, you are being contradictory...
spies4Zander (1:48:56 PM): spies4Zander (9:36:40 PM): You said you were in the same position as Abrams in that stage
spies4Zander (9:36:56 PM): Two times in one conversation Martha, you contradicted yourself... I don't want to be a jerk but you can understand why I'm suspect to this
spies4Martha (9:37:42 PM): Yes, I can see that.
spies4Zander (1:49:12 PM): In less than 10 minutes she changes her reason for defending Abrams, and I'm not supposed to find this suspect?
spies4Zander (1:49:41 PM): especially when the contexts are complete opposites?
spies4Zander (1:51:12 PM): So I'm not going to sit here and listen to why you and Lloyd think I'm basically retarded for not voting Kiyoshi when originally it was what I was going to do, and if Martha had not spoken to me in the first place trying to save herself and digging a grave by throwing around contradictions, then I would have remained on Kiyoshi.
spies4Zander (1:51:37 PM): So I don't care if you feel like nobody else had reason to vote Martha, because until now you never asked me why and I sure do have good reason for why I voted her and I just proved it.
spies4Adelaide (1:52:19 PM): Okay you proved your point.
spies4Zander (1:52:20 PM): If anyone did this in a chat room, they would have been instantly exiled. You just don't contradict yourself for no reason
spies4Zander (1:52:33 PM): Well I'm glad I did and now you can stop calling me stupid. Great.
spies4Adelaide (1:54:35 PM): You proved your point as in you personally had a rational reason to vote martha.
spies4Adelaide (1:54:51 PM): Lets leave it at that.
spies4Adelaide (1:54:56 PM): I have to go but i will be back
spies4Zander (1:55:02 PM): You are ridiculous!
spies4Adelaide (1:55:06 PM): How?
spies4Zander (1:55:13 PM): So I proved I had a rational point in voting for someone, but I'm' stupid for doing it?!
spies4Zander (1:55:31 PM): My viewpoint - Unless there is a suspect and I have reason to distrust them fully and think they could be a spy, I will vote an inactive
spies4Zander (1:55:45 PM): and when that occurred, I voted for Martha because of what she did. And you still think I'm stupid
spies4Adelaide (1:55:55 PM): I never said you were stupid once/
spies4Adelaide (1:55:57 PM): did i?
spies4Zander (1:56:02 PM): Hindsight is 20/20, Adelaide. We can't all be perfect, but when things fly around in our faces, we have to look at them
spies4Zander (1:56:09 PM): ignoring that type of evidence is what lets spies advance
spies4Zander (1:56:16 PM): You said I lacked common sense
spies4Adelaide (1:57:43 PM): Yes I did, and i meant that as in you didnt vote inactive etc. At the time I thought you were one of the people always against it. I admitted that I was wrong there. I must apologise for thinking that and for being rude.
spies4Adelaide (1:58:22 PM): I dont mean to come across bitchy here!
spies4Adelaide (1:58:26 PM): i was a bit at the start
spies4Adelaide (1:58:35 PM): Okay i was wrong :-z
spies4Zander (1:58:44 PM): And I apologize for ranting to you so much, but for me, you were acting differently from how I knew you before the game, and that wasn't the Adelaide I wanted to be around
spies4Zander (1:58:51 PM): I've been in your shoes before, so trust me I know how you feel
spies4Zander (1:59:01 PM): Bandwagons lacking evidence only ruin the game
spies4Adelaide (1:59:18 PM): Im glad you talked sense to me before I ranted off to other me!
spies4Zander (1:59:21 PM): You just have to know who had reasons and who did not
spies4Adelaide (1:59:23 PM): i mean other people
spies4Zander (1:59:44 PM): I wouldn't say I talked sense in to you, I'm just glad I got to tell you my viewpoint before a huge war was started
spies4Adelaide (1:59:48 PM): it seems emma had a good reason
spies4Adelaide (2:00:16 PM): but ralph really got people to do it. i dont think it was suspicious i think ralph isnt thinking straight
spies4Zander (2:00:36 PM): Ralph is very driven, but I don't know if that drive will catch spies, to be honest
spies4Adelaide (2:00:41 PM): But i see now that martha is an idiot
spies4Adelaide (2:00:44 PM): a bad citizen
spies4Zander (2:01:14 PM): I wouldn't even say bad... Just reckless
spies4Adelaide (2:01:46 PM): Ye, spineless
spies4Adelaide (2:02:20 PM): Madison now theres a new spy on the block!
spies4Adelaide (2:02:27 PM): i wanna see what she has to say first!
spies4Adelaide (2:02:36 PM): i gtg really happy we had this talk!
spies4Zander (2:03:20 PM): Me too, take care





While this might have been one of my "saving myself" conversations, it could also be held very strongly against me...

I really, really hope that eyes don't turn to me because of this. I felt like a citizen saying it, but who knows.

[Zander]

spies4Faizah (11:52:09 AM): Good morning, gooooood morrrrrninnnnnng
spies4Zander (11:52:13 AM): hey
spies4Faizah (11:52:14 AM): Gordy/Summer have got to go.
spies4Faizah (11:52:18 AM): Or people that suspect them.
spies4Zander (11:52:22 AM): really??
spies4Zander (11:52:26 AM): Well who suspects them?
spies4Faizah (11:52:38 AM): I cant remember
spies4Faizah (11:52:44 AM): Angel said last night, I think she posted it
spies4Faizah (11:52:46 AM): Go read the new stuff
spies4Zander (11:54:14 AM): okie dokie
spies4Zander (11:56:38 AM): I don't see anything...
spies4Faizah (11:57:18 AM): spies4.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=spyhq2490a9b&action=display&thread=1192074923
spies4Faizah (12:00:06 PM): Im afraid to even talk to Ralph
spies4Faizah (12:00:16 PM): After Gordy is all about the DIVAS being spies.
spies4Zander (12:01:06 PM): Ralph forges ahead with this alliance
spies4Zander (12:01:10 PM): I doubt Gordy will have much say
spies4Faizah (12:01:54 PM): But Summer has alot of pull
spies4Faizah (12:01:57 PM): That could be dangerous
spies4Zander (12:02:27 PM): hmm...
spies4Zander (12:05:09 PM): sorry I'm trying to read it and talk to Ralph and Hannah at the same time
spies4Faizah (12:05:15 PM): its ok
spies4Zander (12:05:17 PM): let me work on the Ralph and Gordy, since I have a lot of sway with them
spies4Faizah (12:05:22 PM): im havin a GREAT chat with Hannah
spies4Zander (12:05:25 PM): if I break Gordy I can break Summer
spies4Faizah (12:06:04 PM): Summer is WAY more suspicious than me
spies4Faizah (12:06:07 PM): and hell, I am a spy.
spies4Zander (12:06:08 PM): TRUTH
spies4Zander (12:06:31 PM): And by "If I can break Gordy", I meant as a result he would probably break Summer
spies4Zander (12:06:38 PM): are they targeting you or just your whole family?
spies4Faizah (12:06:43 PM): My family
spies4Faizah (12:06:49 PM): but they think Lloyd is too crazy
spies4Zander (12:06:51 PM): Then they should go after Lloyd or Bev first
spies4Faizah (12:06:52 PM): Bunni is inactive
spies4Faizah (12:06:57 PM): and Bev is too dumb
spies4Zander (12:07:00 PM): ah...
spies4Faizah (12:07:02 PM): so im the normal one, and the PRIME suspect.
spies4Zander (12:08:15 PM): hmm...
spies4Zander (12:08:18 PM): Well Ralph suspects Madison
spies4Zander (12:08:25 PM): You could easily throw her under the bus
spies4Zander (12:15:31 PM): I think you're not in any serious trouble
spies4Faizah (12:15:40 PM): I hope not
spies4Faizah (12:15:48 PM): I guess as Spies we just have to be super paranoid
spies4Zander (12:16:08 PM): True but you can't convey that
spies4Zander (12:16:20 PM): and don't push for ANYONE
spies4Zander (12:16:28 PM): Let my family take care of it and I think we'll be okay...
spies4Faizah (12:16:33 PM): ok
spies4Zander (12:16:38 PM): Hannah will probably help out the cause as well
spies4Faizah (12:16:50 PM): yea, I wanna make sure she trusts me 100%
spies4Faizah (12:16:53 PM): I might need her later on
spies4Zander (12:17:12 PM): <3 Hannah
spies4Zander (12:17:18 PM): I really enjoy kissing her butt
spies4Faizah (12:17:22 PM): LOL
spies4Zander (12:17:33 PM): I'm like "You me and Singe are the ONLY citizens who analyze anything we're given before jumping off the plank

spies4Zander (12:17:38 PM): and she eats it up......
spies4Faizah (12:17:51 PM): Yea, she is wasy to sway to liking people
spies4Faizah (12:17:55 PM): You just gotta butter her up
spies4Zander (12:18:20 PM): I think I'm solid with her and Singe
spies4Faizah (12:18:31 PM): She majorly suspects Damon
spies4Faizah (12:18:39 PM): Which could be good or bad if he goes for Angelica
spies4Zander (12:18:41 PM): Singe apparently said that if I was a spy I'd be really hard to tag, and he also said "Regardless of your alignment, you're a very good and smart player"
spies4Faizah (12:18:48 PM): And Kip, she is reallly suspicious of Kip
spies4Zander (12:19:18 PM): hmmm....
spies4Zander (12:19:25 PM): So we're Imprisoning Lise?
spies4Faizah (12:19:40 PM): I guess, but I really think it needs to be someone who suspects Gordy or Summer
spies4Faizah (12:19:45 PM): Surely we could figure that out
spies4Zander (12:19:48 PM): But I don't know if anyone does
spies4Faizah (12:19:50 PM): plus Lise hasnt posted in a while.
spies4Zander (12:20:11 PM): hmm...
spies4Zander (12:20:22 PM): Some people are pointing out her, Madison's, and someone else's inactivity...
spies4Faizah (12:20:46 PM): I still think we should go for Masaki
spies4Zander (12:20:47 PM): Should we hit harder? Someone like Naomi?
spies4Faizah (12:20:52 PM): OR house 6...who has like no suspects
spies4Faizah (12:21:03 PM): and take out Jeremiah or Emma
spies4Zander (12:21:16 PM): That chat with angelica, summer, and gordy, says like nothing about Masaki being a citizen
spies4Zander (12:21:22 PM): Jeremiah is immune this week...
spies4Faizah (12:21:29 PM): how?
spies4Zander (12:21:50 PM): Look in the Imprisonment II thread
spies4Faizah (12:23:07 PM): you know what
spies4Faizah (12:23:15 PM): if we imprison Naomi
spies4Faizah (12:23:23 PM): That whole WE ALL VOTE AS A GROUP will happen everytime.
spies4Faizah (12:23:30 PM): Because people will think the Spies want to stop that.
spies4Zander (12:23:42 PM): Is that a terrible thing?
spies4Zander (12:23:55 PM): (I'm not speaking positively or negatively of it right now, just wondering)
spies4Faizah (12:24:05 PM): I would personally prefer every vote happenin like the Martha vote
spies4Zander (12:24:07 PM): because what are the odds of one of us three ever getting the majority within that situation
spies4Faizah (12:24:14 PM): because it makes alot of innocents look like spies.
spies4Zander (12:24:34 PM): True...
spies4Zander (12:24:55 PM): I think it's a waste to go for house 6, to be honeste
spies4Zander (12:25:03 PM): when it's the only house still in tact, people will turn their eyes to them
spies4Zander (12:25:09 PM): We can use it to our advantage
spies4Faizah (12:25:17 PM): I wouldnt mind Lloyd being imprisoned.
spies4Zander (12:25:20 PM): Emma is barely active, as is Grace
spies4Faizah (12:25:24 PM): I would rather get the heat off my family.
spies4Zander (12:25:28 PM): Wasn't there a chance of Lloyd getting exiled?
spies4Zander (12:25:46 PM): I'd prefer offing Abrams to Lise at this point
spies4Zander (12:25:47 PM): or Kip
spies4Zander (12:26:17 PM): Imprisoning Singe would make me look innocent and all of the people in that Burg thread that fought against Leon look like spies.
spies4Faizah (12:26:57 PM): yea
spies4Zander (12:27:36 PM): But I basically already look innocent so we could at least wait a while to do that
spies4Zander (12:27:41 PM): Keep him on the back burner
spies4Faizah (12:28:02 PM): We need this one to really hit hard
spies4Zander (12:28:04 PM): right now I think I'm the only spy that hasn't been seriously suspected, but when I am it's going to explode so we have to do our best to push it off from happening
spies4Zander (12:28:25 PM): I will probably be the first one to go, but hopefully it won't be for a while
spies4Zander (12:28:35 PM): Hit hard? Abrams, Kip, or Singe.
spies4Zander (12:28:46 PM): Nothing else would hit as hard, rationally, I think
spies4Faizah (12:29:33 PM): Abrams wouldnt be a shocker
spies4Faizah (12:29:37 PM): I think it has to be Kip or Singe
spies4Zander (12:30:31 PM): Abrams wouldn't be a shocker but he sure isn't hurting the citizens
spies4Zander (12:30:44 PM): and also, people would be more inclined to believe Martha's word, which outlayed Leon as a suspect
spies4Faizah (12:30:52 PM): true
spies4Faizah (12:31:05 PM): what if we imprisoned Bunni???
spies4Zander (12:31:52 PM): No
spies4Zander (12:31:57 PM): It's a waste, lol
spies4Zander (12:32:01 PM): it wouldn't even hit hard
spies4Faizah (12:32:40 PM): im just worried about people accusing my family
spies4Faizah (12:32:48 PM): in which case, they accuse me more than any of the others.
spies4Zander (12:32:52 PM): True.
spies4Zander (12:32:54 PM): Hmmm....
spies4Zander (12:33:09 PM): Then we Imprison Lloyd. That's the only way to hit your family and take eyes off of fyou
spies4Faizah (12:33:20 PM): Thats fine by me!
spies4Faizah (12:33:23 PM): He suspects he will be anyway
spies4Zander (12:33:25 PM): I would just prefer to get the smarter ones out right now, like Kip
spies4Faizah (12:33:48 PM): and I dont think people will actually exile him
spies4Faizah (12:33:55 PM): theres talk of it, but I dont tihnk it will happen
spies4Zander (12:34:14 PM): Yeah, you're right...
spies4Zander (12:34:26 PM): I'd prefer to get Jessica and Reicheru out of this game as soon as possible
spies4Zander (12:34:33 PM): both are huge threats and it's great that we have one down already
spies4Faizah (12:34:41 PM): who and who??? lol
spies4Zander (12:34:55 PM): Jessica (Lloyd) from Spies 3, and Reicheru (Martha) from Spies 3
spies4Faizah (12:35:45 PM): Jessica going ismore than fine with me
spies4Faizah (12:35:50 PM): and I think it will take alot of heat off me
spies4Faizah (12:35:56 PM): anyway, I gotta go to the gym
spies4Faizah (12:35:58 PM): so i will ttyl
spies4Zander (12:36:05 PM): see ya!
spies4Faizah signed off at 12:36:18 PM.
spies4Faizah signed on at 12:39:19 AM.
spies4Faizah is away at 12:47:27 AM.
spies4Faizah returned at 10:06:55 AM.
spies4Faizah signed off at 11:44:45 AM.

[Zander]

spies4Ralph (11:59:55 AM): hey bud
spies4Zander (12:00:06 PM): hey, how's it going?
spies4Ralph (12:00:23 PM): pretty good and ureself
spies4Zander (12:00:54 PM): Very tired, but trying to get back into the swing of things
spies4Ralph (12:01:16 PM): its hard to do lol
spies4Zander (12:01:22 PM): Yes hah
spies4Zander (12:01:38 PM): I spent a good portion of yesterday yelling at Adelaide for why I do indeed have common sense and why I'm not stupid
spies4Zander (12:01:45 PM): and after that I was not in much of a mood to talk to anyone else
spies4Ralph (12:01:51 PM): so suspicions this week
spies4Zander (12:02:11 PM): I think the spies are taking "Naomi's" plan and RUNNING with it.
spies4Zander (12:02:18 PM): I don't suspect Leon and I think it's a cheap plot
spies4Ralph (12:02:36 PM): yeah but martha said...
spies4Zander (12:02:53 PM): I know Ralph, but you have to keep in mind Martha is a ... basically, a psychopath
spies4Zander (12:03:04 PM): that was trying to save herself with easy targets on multiple occasions
spies4Ralph (12:03:06 PM): true
spies4Zander (12:03:16 PM): Even though Martha was a citizen, we can't take her word 100%
spies4Zander (12:03:34 PM): In past seasons when citizens got imprisoned or exiled, often times their dying words let the other citizens to a faulty exile
spies4Zander (12:03:44 PM): I'm not saying Leon isn't a spy, but I sure don't think he is
spies4Ralph (12:04:01 PM): can i give u my utmost suspicion without u freaking out
spies4Zander (12:04:17 PM): sure
spies4Ralph (12:04:22 PM): MAdison
spies4Zander (12:04:27 PM): Really?
spies4Zander (12:04:36 PM): I honestly am surprised by all of the suspicion cast on her...
spies4Zander (12:04:51 PM): But the evidence against her does make sense, yes
spies4Ralph (12:05:03 PM): she logs off first thing after every even she is sliding by but still casting her opinion
spies4Zander (12:05:47 PM): true
spies4Zander (12:05:53 PM): I honestly didn't even think of that
spies4Zander (12:06:01 PM): Like I read some things in the burg, but I guess I didn't process them
spies4Ralph (12:07:05 PM): i mean we really catn pursue that suspicion but i think we should keep it close
spies4Zander (12:08:32 PM): True
spies4Zander (12:08:42 PM): Well, we coudl pursue it, just not vote for it...
spies4Ralph (12:08:54 PM): nto sure if that is the best idea
spies4Zander (12:09:10 PM): We really have to wait past Imprisonment and see if there is any new evidence
spies4Zander (12:09:14 PM): Hopefully none of us goes
spies4Ralph (12:41:14 PM): true
spies4Ralph (12:41:36 PM): well i g2g
spies4Zander (12:41:39 PM): Ralph, why would you tell Lloyd that I know who he is?
spies4Zander (12:41:41 PM): NO, wait
spies4Ralph (12:42:03 PM): he started asking me if his identity was thrown around
spies4Zander (12:42:14 PM): AND YOU TOLD HIM I SAID SOMETHING?
spies4Ralph (12:42:22 PM): i was trying to figure out if he was the one who accused u
spies4Zander (12:42:25 PM): Now he's attacking me and will probably try to get me exiled or something
spies4Ralph (12:42:36 PM): jsut because he knows u re identity
spies4Zander (12:42:54 PM): Ralph, I can't BELIEVE you would throw me under the bus like this!
spies4Zander (12:43:09 PM): NOw he will probably spread my identity to everyone
spies4Ralph (12:43:15 PM): how is this dud he trusts u this is not throwing u under the bus
spies4Zander (12:43:24 PM): He doesn't seem like he trusts me
spies4Zander (12:43:31 PM): UGH.
spies4Ralph (12:43:39 PM): me and lloyd are close trust me on this one Zander
spies4Zander (12:43:44 PM): ANYTHING I SAY TO YOU AND GORDY AND MADISON SHOULD STAY BETWEEN YOU AND GORDY AND MADISON. BECAUSE I ONLY TRUST YOU GUYS, CAPICHE?
spies4Ralph (12:43:59 PM): capiche
spies4Ralph (12:44:11 PM): but remember every move i make in this game is for a reason and i am playing for us all
spies4Zander (12:44:13 PM): I don't like my thoughts and trust being thrown around
spies4Zander (12:44:36 PM): I understand dude, I just felt like I was instantly going to be a target because of something I told you in confidence
spies4Ralph (12:44:48 PM): ure good man
spies4Zander (12:44:58 PM): Okay, thanks...
spies4Zander (12:45:00 PM): Sorry about that
spies4Ralph (12:53:58 PM): he just admitted he realyl was jessica
spies4Zander (12:54:15 PM): I don't care, I have no reason to want to accuse!
spies4Zander (12:54:22 PM): God I'm so angry right now
spies4Ralph (12:54:27 PM): sorry
spies4Zander (12:54:33 PM): You're going to get me exiled, Ralph. You really are
spies4Zander (12:54:47 PM): And if Lloyd is a spy then I'll probably be Imprisoned
spies4Ralph (12:55:35 PM): u have so little faith in me
spies4Zander (12:55:53 PM): RALPH!
spies4Zander (12:56:03 PM): I just got torn a new asshole, and not in the way he would like it
spies4Zander (12:56:18 PM): There are some things you don't run and talk about, and identity is one, dude
spies4Zander (12:57:15 PM): We're now going to be playing a game of accusation votes
spies4Zander (12:57:29 PM): Since he knows we know his identity, he will run and tell mine to other people
spies4Zander (12:57:38 PM): so you've basically just gotten me exiled. That's why I have no faith in you
spies4Ralph (12:57:46 PM): he said he dosent know ures
spies4Zander (12:57:50 PM): And if I'm not exiled, I will surely be Imprisoned soon
spies4Zander (12:57:58 PM): Of course he doesn't want me to think I know his!
spies4Zander (12:58:03 PM): Er, he knows mine!
spies4Ralph (1:09:24 PM): challenge is up and it is a family task
spies4Ralph (1:23:23 PM): ill be back later
spies4Ralph (1:23:27 PM): hope we can move on form this
spies4Zander (1:23:37 PM): I do too.
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[Zander]

spies4hannah (12:00:36 PM): Hi there
spies4Zander (12:00:43 PM): hey! How have you been?
spies4hannah (12:00:52 PM): i am not too bad thanks
spies4hannah (12:00:55 PM): and u?
spies4Zander (12:01:18 PM): Not too bad, a bit tired, but feeling fairly well
spies4hannah (12:01:34 PM): thats good.
spies4Zander (12:01:57 PM): So how have things been going for you?
spies4hannah (12:02:08 PM): on the whole, pretty well i think
spies4Zander (12:02:36 PM): That's good to hear
spies4hannah (12:02:46 PM): and u?
spies4Zander (12:04:00 PM): Well, I had a lovely chat with Adelaide yesterday, and after that I was in no mood to talk to anybody
spies4hannah (12:04:10 PM): why?
spies4Zander (12:04:11 PM): but I guess I proved my point that I'm not stupid like she thought I was, for voting Martha
spies4hannah (12:04:43 PM): yeah she also messaged ,e and asked me my reasons for voting martha
spies4Zander (12:05:35 PM): I actually had some so I basically shut her up
spies4hannah (12:05:45 PM): haha well me too
spies4hannah (12:07:00 PM): and by the end she basically agreed with me that with those reasons voting martha was a logical choice
spies4Zander (12:07:07 PM): Yes, me too
spies4Zander (12:07:12 PM): I guess that's why she posted that thing in the burg
spies4Zander (12:07:19 PM): I was pretty mean about my response though...
spies4hannah (12:07:23 PM): probably
spies4hannah (12:07:26 PM): really?
spies4hannah (12:07:29 PM): how so?
spies4Zander (12:08:02 PM): Not like personally attacking, but I was like "You're running around yelling at people for how they voted and calling them stupid and that's NOT going to help us catch spies, so call my reasoning stupid but at least I'm LOOKING for spylike behavior!"
spies4Zander (12:08:10 PM): In different terms, but with about the same attitude
spies4hannah (12:08:36 PM): well i think that was kind of warranted
spies4hannah (12:09:10 PM): this witch hunt as to who was responsible for marthas exile was ridiculous
spies4Zander (12:09:22 PM): Exactly
spies4Zander (12:09:30 PM): it was ALMOST as ridiculous as Martha's witch hunt to save herself
spies4hannah (12:09:35 PM): haha
spies4hannah (12:09:36 PM): yes
spies4Zander (12:09:42 PM): in which she wound up actually tying herself to the pole and being burned at the stake
spies4hannah (12:10:32 PM): well, my thoughts exactly. her last ditch attempts to get ppl to vote Angelica, and then to ACTUALLY switch to kiyoshi...i mean really
spies4Zander (12:11:32 PM): Yep
spies4Zander (12:11:46 PM): And I truly don't think her turning out to be a citizen makes us able to trust her word any more than before
spies4Zander (12:12:02 PM): There have been many times in the past where someone's dying words were "Get ____", and the citizens did, and it was a citizen exile
spies4hannah (12:12:18 PM): well thats a big mistake
spies4hannah (12:12:24 PM): ppl shouldnt make dying requests
spies4hannah (12:12:37 PM): cos then their word is taken as the gospel and thats dumb
spies4Zander (12:13:46 PM): Exactly - why are we trusting Martha's word when we sure as heck couldn't trust it here
spies4Zander (12:14:01 PM): I'm getting SO SICK of people just seeing something posted there and not thinking about it or analyzing it
spies4hannah (12:14:03 PM): yes, because, as Singe noted, she played like a meth addict
spies4Zander (12:14:23 PM): specifically people like you, me, and Singe, tend to do stuff with things that are thrown in our faces
spies4hannah (12:14:46 PM): and it gets pretty annyoing after a while
spies4Zander (12:14:57 PM): I'm just not sure how I feel about those who see things and do nothing to observe them.
spies4hannah (12:15:30 PM): like, this plan to all vote the same way. the spies can influence that, no matter what ppl say
spies4hannah (12:15:35 PM): and then i say so, and i am yelled at
spies4Zander (12:15:39 PM): Exactly
spies4Zander (12:16:02 PM): The spies have at least like... 4? I'm guessing? And that's actually a good portion to sway the votes almost immediately
spies4hannah (12:16:10 PM): its like, u have a rational argument, and u automatically come under fire for not following evryone like sheep
spies4hannah (12:16:19 PM): at LEAST 4 i would say
spies4hannah (12:16:26 PM): possibly 5 6 or even 7!
spies4hannah (12:16:35 PM): imagine how much sway that would hold
spies4Zander (12:16:59 PM): Hannah, I love you because you say all of the right things, hah!
spies4Zander (12:17:05 PM): I'm seriously scared of how many spies there are
spies4hannah (12:17:34 PM): lol
spies4hannah (12:17:43 PM): i am just trying to think rationally
spies4Zander (12:18:00 PM): And if everyone did we'd probably have a better chance at winning
spies4hannah (12:18:38 PM): instead of attacking those who think rationally and calling them "negative" - Bevs fav word for me right now
spies4Zander (12:19:00 PM): Oh dear God
spies4Zander (12:19:15 PM): We started two threads asking people to stop being counterproductive, and what does Bev do
spies4hannah (12:20:24 PM): lol
spies4hannah (12:20:32 PM): well i mean, bev will be bev
spies4hannah (12:20:49 PM): she spent her morning attacking me in the therad "my main spy suspects"
spies4hannah (12:20:59 PM): but i am just going to ignore it
spies4hannah (12:21:12 PM): and not point out that "fuck u hannah" is not a rational argument
spies4Zander (12:21:38 PM): But Hannah, CLEARLY it is
spies4Zander (12:21:39 PM): hah!
spies4hannah (12:21:46 PM): hehehehe
spies4hannah (12:21:52 PM): u have cheered me up immenesly
spies4Zander (12:22:46 PM):
spies4Zander (12:22:48 PM): I do what I can
spies4hannah (12:23:11 PM): Faizah and i were just chatting about how silly ppl are being
spies4hannah (12:23:36 PM): and ignoring the influence the spies will have in the "majority vote"
spies4Zander (12:24:22 PM): She's a smart girl
spies4hannah (12:24:35 PM): yeah as i have just discovered chatting to her
spies4hannah (12:24:39 PM): am very glad i did
spies4hannah (12:24:56 PM): by the way i really wish u guys were our neighbours, i dont want to get to know family in house 3 :-(
spies4hannah (12:25:03 PM): i already know u guys
spies4Zander (12:26:26 PM):
spies4Zander (12:26:41 PM): But Singe is a great guy!
spies4Zander (12:26:50 PM): You think I like living next to Adelaide, or Beverly, or Lloyd? Hah!
spies4hannah (12:26:53 PM): oh yeah he is in family 3
spies4Zander (12:26:58 PM): Summer is very kind as well
spies4hannah (12:27:02 PM): i lie singe
spies4hannah (12:27:05 PM): *like
spies4hannah (12:27:07 PM): ;lol
spies4hannah (12:28:17 PM): i have never chatted to summer actually
spies4hannah (12:28:33 PM): i think lloyd has mellowed out a bit slightly
spies4Zander (12:29:02 PM): Yes, thank God
spies4hannah (12:29:20 PM): haha yes
spies4hannah (12:36:42 PM): i have to head off for a little while, chat again soon
spies4hannah (12:36:51 PM): glad we are on the same wave length
spies4Zander (12:37:56 PM): I completely agree!
spies4Zander (12:38:00 PM): See you later, Hannah
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[Zander]

spies4Zander (12:29:09 PM): Hey
spies4Lloyd (12:29:21 PM): hi
spies4Zander (12:29:21 PM): Long time no talk
spies4Lloyd (12:29:29 PM): life has been hectic
spies4Lloyd (12:29:35 PM): and upsetting obviously
spies4Zander (12:29:42 PM): Yeah...
spies4Zander (12:30:08 PM): I already spoke my peace with Adelaide yesterday, but obviously I'm not happy that Martha wasn't a spy. We just have to stop tearing each other apart, because we won't get anywhere with that rationality
spies4Zander (12:30:12 PM): or lack thereof
spies4Lloyd (12:30:31 PM): I am so nervous I will be imprisoned
spies4Lloyd (12:30:44 PM): I just flew off the handle without even considering it
spies4Lloyd (12:30:48 PM): I feel so stupid
spies4Zander (12:30:59 PM): I can't blame you
spies4Zander (12:31:27 PM): I don't know how the Imprisonment is going to go, or who the spies are going to target, but I'm more nervous for my family than I am for myself at this point
spies4Zander (12:31:47 PM): I think Ralph made himself a big target of the spies, and I'm worried about myself, but who isn't?
spies4Lloyd (12:32:21 PM): I think ralph made himself more a target for the citz
spies4Zander (12:32:28 PM): Really??
spies4Lloyd (12:32:29 PM): not that I suspect him
spies4Lloyd (12:32:38 PM): well he was a big factor in martha going
spies4Zander (12:32:43 PM): I think it's pretty obvious he has a lot of sway, I would consider the spies would find him a bigger threat
spies4Lloyd (12:33:32 PM): true
spies4Zander (12:33:58 PM): I guess we'll find out tonight, this part always sucks the most - at least with an exile you can try to prevent something
spies4Lloyd (12:34:23 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (12:35:25 PM): I'm glad that Naomi is at least trying to forge ahead though
spies4Zander (12:36:01 PM): If we can all take our information public it shouldn't be that hard to make some sense out of everything, and slap some sense into those who make none
spies4Lloyd (12:36:49 PM): have you heard discussion about my identity?
spies4Zander (12:37:08 PM): Other than the one conversation we had where you said it was obvious who some people were, no, hah!
spies4Lloyd (12:38:27 PM): that's not what ralph says
spies4Zander (12:39:18 PM): Aha, so Ralph told you that he knows I think I know (wow) who you are?
spies4Lloyd (12:39:30 PM): yup
spies4Zander (12:39:38 PM): I suspect that likewise you are the same
spies4Lloyd (12:39:40 PM): I am shocked that you would spread such info
spies4Lloyd (12:39:52 PM): regardless of whether or not it is true
spies4Zander (12:39:56 PM): Well, let me justify something a bit for you
spies4Zander (12:40:20 PM): One, I did not reveal who I actually thought you were. Two, I did not accuse you. Three, I only brought this up because Ralph mentioned something about exiling you and I passed it off nonchalantly
spies4Zander (12:40:39 PM): I'm not going to play dirty enough to go out and accuse people for no reason, and I haven't
spies4Lloyd (12:41:04 PM): I think its best if this convo was made public
spies4Lloyd (12:41:07 PM): the convo in wuestion
spies4Lloyd (12:41:10 PM): question
spies4Zander (12:41:25 PM): I'm sure you would think that, however, I'm also sure you've had conversations about my identity then, with Ralph?
spies4Lloyd (12:41:39 PM): none at all
spies4Zander (12:41:53 PM): Really?
spies4Zander (12:42:00 PM): So instead you just talked about my thoughts
spies4Lloyd (12:43:51 PM): he just said that people think I am Jess
spies4Zander (12:44:02 PM): I never told him who I thought you were
spies4Zander (12:44:50 PM): At least, I really really don't think I did
spies4Zander (12:45:08 PM): let me see if I have it saved
spies4Lloyd (12:45:20 PM): this is what happens when people spread others identity's for no good reason
spies4Zander (12:45:23 PM): I remember he and Gordy were bugging me about telling who I thought you were, but I don't think I did
spies4Zander (12:45:31 PM): I didn't spread your identity around
spies4Lloyd (12:45:36 PM): then how did they know you thought I was jess
spies4Zander (12:45:37 PM): I didn't even ACCUSE YOU
spies4Lloyd (12:46:35 PM): if you are truly a cit, you will keep your theory of my identity quiet
spies4Zander (12:46:41 PM): Which I have
spies4Zander (12:46:56 PM): I don't suspect you Lloyd, so why would I want people to accuse you?
spies4Lloyd (12:47:14 PM): just telloing you
spies4Zander (12:47:14 PM): Especially when I haven't even done so because I have no reason to want you gone?
spies4Zander (12:47:39 PM): From what Ralph says, neither one of us seriously suspects the other, so it's smarter if we work together than worrying about identity crap
spies4Lloyd (12:48:10 PM): I never gave anyone any indication that I dont suspect you
spies4Zander (12:48:15 PM): Ralph told me you didnt
spies4Zander (12:49:02 PM): Either way, you can believe what you want, that I spread your identity or something though I didn't, but I just think it's smarter to collaborate than worry about identities
spies4Zander (12:49:10 PM): which is why I didn't accuse this past round, although clearly you did?
spies4Lloyd (12:49:23 PM): yes, but I didn
spies4Lloyd (12:49:25 PM): t
spies4Lloyd (12:49:30 PM): tell anyone who I thought was who
spies4Zander (12:49:43 PM): Neither did I! Agh
spies4Zander (12:58:44 PM): Lloyd, I just want to make something clear
spies4Lloyd (12:59:00 PM): that you are gonna imprison me?
spies4Zander (12:59:13 PM): The topic of your identity came up as something that Gordy and Ralph were intersted in knowing, because I was accused and they wondered who accused me
spies4Zander (12:59:27 PM): Oh come on Lloyd, stop being freaking ridiculous
spies4Lloyd (12:59:39 PM): and you expressed your thought on who I was
spies4Zander (12:59:47 PM): No, I said
spies4Lloyd (12:59:56 PM): we'll see when gordy gets on
spies4Zander (1:00:00 PM): 1. I think I know who accused me and 2. I think I know the identity of the person who accused me
spies4Zander (1:00:10 PM): Well, I foudn the chat, so you don't have to wait
spies4Zander (1:00:27 PM): if you shut up, you can let me explain
spies4Lloyd (1:01:14 PM): I have shut up long ago
spies4Lloyd (1:01:16 PM): you may continue
spies4Zander (1:01:54 PM): I then told them it was Lloyd, though I was not 100% sure I thought it was you
spies4Zander (1:01:59 PM): Gordy says
spies4Zander (1:02:23 PM): spies4Gordy (11:37:21 PM): What's Lloyd's ID? We could use it against him. He's my number one target right now
spies4Zander (1:02:39 PM): spies4Ralph (11:37:21 PM): i have no past spies knowledge if u would like me to make the accusation u think it is about him iwill be happy to do that so we can find out if ure right
spies4Zander (1:02:46 PM): that was right before Gordy said that
spies4Zander (1:03:00 PM): spies4Ralph (11:37:45 PM): and u dont waste ure accusation
spies4Zander (11:38:14 PM): I'm just afraid of the information getting in the wrong hands, what if we become targets because he knows we're accusing him?
spies4Lloyd (1:03:27 PM): could you just PM the log
spies4Zander (1:03:40 PM): So you could try to incriminate me more? Great plan!
spies4Zander (1:03:49 PM): You already think I'm a spy and I'm going to imprison you, so why not?
spies4Zander (1:03:58 PM): I think you're playing reverse psychology here and it's not going to work
spies4Lloyd (1:04:26 PM): no, because you seem to be throwing gordy under the bus
spies4Zander (1:04:39 PM): I then did proceed to tell them who I thought you were (Clearly I thought I waited a bit longer), and we speculated a bit about your identity
spies4Zander (1:04:43 PM): I'm not throwing gordy under the bus
spies4Zander (1:04:46 PM): I'm posting chat excerpts
spies4Zander (1:04:54 PM): What the hell is your problem?
spies4Lloyd (1:05:14 PM): that these could be made up
spies4Lloyd (1:05:23 PM): whole chats are harder to fake
spies4Zander (1:05:24 PM): Ask the guys if they have chat excerpts too then
spies4Lloyd (1:05:35 PM): ralph said he doesn't
spies4Zander (1:05:36 PM): here, let me copy/paste whole segments
spies4Lloyd (1:05:41 PM): the whole thing i mean
spies4Zander (1:05:46 PM): spies4Zander (11:36:07 PM): I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was him
spies4Ralph (11:37:21 PM): i have no past spies knowledge if u would like me to make the accusation u think it is about him iwill be happy to do that so we can find out if ure right
spies4Gordy (11:37:21 PM): What's Lloyd's ID? We could use it against him. He's my number one target right now
spies4Ralph (11:37:45 PM): and u dont waste ure accusation
spies4Lloyd (1:05:48 PM): no, I want the whole thing
spies4Zander (1:06:10 PM): I know what you want and I don't want to give it to you so you can run around and incriminate me
spies4Zander (1:06:28 PM): Ask them if they recall having this conversation
spies4Zander (1:06:33 PM): Then we'll see who's making things up
spies4Lloyd (1:06:34 PM): ralph does
spies4Lloyd (1:06:43 PM): he said he remembers it
spies4Lloyd (1:06:48 PM): but doesn't have the log
spies4Zander (1:07:02 PM): So even though he remembers the conversation, he doesn't have the log and that means I'm lying?
spies4Lloyd (1:07:02 PM): why wont you just send me the fucking lof
spies4Lloyd (1:07:10 PM): log
spies4Zander (1:07:15 PM): Because I know you will use it against me like you already are!
spies4Lloyd (1:07:35 PM): I just wanna clear this up
spies4Zander (1:07:38 PM): And the part where I reveal your identity, or what I think it is, basically could reveal my identity as well!
spies4Lloyd (1:07:40 PM): your refusal is more suspicious
spies4Zander (1:07:42 PM): And why would I do something like that
spies4Zander (1:07:48 PM): I'm more afraid of you accusing me
spies4Lloyd (1:08:14 PM): your identity never crossed my mind
spies4Lloyd (1:08:16 PM): until now
spies4Zander (1:08:27 PM): But you can understand why I have such a hard time believing that
spies4Zander (1:08:39 PM): after receiving an accusation vote this past exile, and you blatantly saying "Some people are so easy to figure out"
spies4Lloyd (1:08:49 PM): I understand
spies4Lloyd (1:08:58 PM): I didn;t say people were easy to fifure out
spies4Lloyd (1:09:03 PM): I just said I made many accuses
spies4Zander (1:09:09 PM): God damn it, if Ralph didn't say anything, then I wouldn't have had to worry about this...
spies4Zander (1:09:30 PM): If this log reveals my identity, them I'm basically screwed because I can start counting the accusation votes now, I'm sure
spies4Zander (1:09:43 PM): And if I suspected you AT ALL, I wouldn't be sending this
spies4Zander (1:11:09 PM): There. Use it however you want
spies4Lloyd (1:11:14 PM): k
spies4Zander (1:14:58 PM): Thoughts?
spies4Lloyd (1:15:51 PM): still reading being distracted
spies4Zander (1:16:03 PM): sorry
spies4Lloyd (1:16:13 PM): not you, niggers outside
spies4Lloyd (1:16:15 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:16:37 PM): hey now
spies4Lloyd (1:16:59 PM): joking
spies4Lloyd (1:17:02 PM): but they are black
spies4Zander (1:17:11 PM): I know :-P
spies4Lloyd (1:17:12 PM): I have a black cousing and I love her to death
spies4Lloyd (1:17:21 PM): oh, and faiz
spies4Lloyd (1:17:23 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:17:24 PM): I didn't think you were serious
spies4Zander (1:17:26 PM): haha!
spies4Lloyd (1:18:24 PM): lol
spies4Lloyd (1:18:27 PM): I know who you are
spies4Zander (1:18:31 PM): Figures
spies4Zander (1:18:38 PM): And you didn't accuse me? Seriously?
spies4Lloyd (1:18:38 PM): well, its actually down to 2 people
spies4Lloyd (1:18:43 PM): I dont think so
spies4Lloyd (1:18:48 PM): I accused like 10 people
spies4Zander (1:18:59 PM): This is such a crappy conversation. If either one of us is a spy the other is basically doomed lol
spies4Lloyd (1:19:13 PM): not with theunanimous majority plan
spies4Zander (1:19:24 PM): Well, that's true I guess
spies4Lloyd (1:19:31 PM): sam kills accusation votes when it gets later in the game.... remember
spies4Zander (1:19:38 PM): True...
spies4Zander (1:20:03 PM): But if I back off my family from accusing then you have no more accusation vote
spies4Zander (1:20:05 PM): *votes
spies4Lloyd (1:20:16 PM): ahhh, I narrowed the 2 down to 1
spies4Lloyd (1:20:21 PM): I got ya
spies4Lloyd (1:20:24 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:20:26 PM): Grand! haha
spies4Zander (1:20:37 PM): So just out of curiosity... Who am I?
spies4Zander (1:20:42 PM): (I'm not saying either way )
spies4Lloyd (1:20:48 PM): just gota check I didn';t accuse already
spies4Lloyd (1:21:01 PM): XD
spies4Lloyd (1:21:06 PM): I was the one who accused you
spies4Zander (1:21:17 PM): I knew it *rolls eyes*
spies4Lloyd (1:21:25 PM): I accused 4 people of being you after I saw your post on DDRFreak
spies4Lloyd (1:21:32 PM): while 4 people were in a chat room
spies4Zander (1:21:34 PM): I KNEW you were going to use my post times against me. You ass lol
spies4Lloyd (1:21:41 PM):
spies4Zander (1:21:54 PM): Well I'm glad I finally get to work alongside Jess like I wanted to
spies4Lloyd (1:22:39 PM): suuure
spies4Lloyd (1:22:41 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:22:47 PM): hm?
spies4Lloyd (1:22:47 PM): I am still in the air about you
spies4Zander (1:22:53 PM): I can't blame you, honestly
spies4Lloyd (1:23:01 PM): I thought you may have been tenchi, but tenchi would have known my name
spies4Lloyd (1:23:17 PM): when you said issac I knew for sur
spies4Zander (1:23:20 PM): Yeah... That was the part I figured would give me away
spies4Zander (1:23:30 PM): I was going to say your name was "gasm" lol
spies4Lloyd (1:23:36 PM):
spies4Zander (1:24:15 PM): I really want to slap Ralph. Now I'm basically a suspect because he ran around telling the wrong people stuff
spies4Zander (1:24:35 PM): I made this post in our family thread about why saying people know other people's identities is a bad thing, and I don't think he understood.
spies4Lloyd (1:24:56 PM): so was it you who accused me?
spies4Lloyd (1:25:01 PM): or did you just know
spies4Zander (1:25:04 PM): Actually, no, that's why I'm surprised
spies4Lloyd (1:25:08 PM): I'm not
spies4Zander (1:25:22 PM): Although to be honest, anyone who knows you from DDRFreak that's playing would basically have you in an instant
spies4Lloyd (1:25:29 PM): exactly
spies4Lloyd (1:25:45 PM): I gave up on role-playing when sam put up my fugly pic
spies4Zander (1:25:53 PM): I'm pretty sure you're not a spy though, since you were last game, unless you were so glorious that Sam was like "OMG Jess again"
spies4Lloyd (1:25:58 PM): then I realized I was obviously being jess
spies4Zander (1:26:00 PM): so you probably don't have to worry about it
spies4Zander (1:26:07 PM): haha
spies4Zander (1:26:21 PM): When you told me you knew a bunch of identities I instantly knew you were Rei or Jess
spies4Zander (1:26:31 PM): and then the flambouyant personality / diva thing was clearly NOT Rei.
spies4Lloyd (1:26:39 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:26:43 PM): However, the going psychotic was I suppose, but I didn't really see that until after I logged my vote
spies4Lloyd (1:26:47 PM): and me being white and all
spies4Zander (1:27:06 PM): seriously you should see some of the crazy shit Martha said trying to save herself. Like I don't feel bad voting for her cause she contradicted herself twice in less than 10 minutes
spies4Zander (1:27:14 PM): and that was like a half hour before exile, in her first conversation with me
spies4Zander (1:27:31 PM): I feel bad that she wasn't a spy, but she definitely didn't do anything to make herself seem innocent
spies4Lloyd (1:27:59 PM): my inital idea to look for you ws who was online when sam sent out passwords
spies4Zander (1:28:02 PM): And if she hadn't spoken to me at all, my vote was locked on Kiyoshi for a good day
spies4Zander (1:28:13 PM): I knew you'd be on the hunt for me right away, haha
spies4Lloyd (1:28:19 PM): and you ,me
spies4Zander (1:28:23 PM): True
spies4Zander (1:28:59 PM): And plus you've been busy lately
spies4Zander (1:29:04 PM): and you made that clear on the DDRfreak site
spies4Zander (1:29:13 PM): it wasn't too hard to get lol
spies4Lloyd (1:29:14 PM): oh, lol
spies4Lloyd (1:29:24 PM): too be honest, I was trying to get caught
spies4Lloyd (1:29:39 PM): I had a huge plan to get a huge group of citz confirmed, but sam layed down the hammer
spies4Zander (1:29:42 PM): It's exciting to know that someone knows who you are
spies4Zander (1:30:04 PM): Through accusations? How would that even work lol
spies4Lloyd (1:30:05 PM): I was the one he mentioned who was trying to abuse the accusations system
spies4Zander (1:30:14 PM): Ah... I thought that was Reicheru
spies4Lloyd (1:30:15 PM): sam wouldn't want me to say
spies4Zander (1:30:26 PM): Understandable
spies4Zander (1:30:41 PM): So are post times the only reason you figured me out?
spies4Lloyd (1:30:47 PM): it basically would have left us with like N people, and N-1 citz of those people
spies4Lloyd (1:31:00 PM): actually I did expect the personality a bit
spies4Zander (1:31:07 PM): I mean I'm not exactly like my past identity, so I was hoping to have some type of concealment, at least
spies4Zander (1:31:22 PM): Aw
spies4Lloyd (1:31:24 PM): I thought more adelaide
spies4Zander (1:31:29 PM): I figured you would
spies4Lloyd (1:31:34 PM): the name, lol
spies4Zander (1:31:39 PM): Instantly I thought people were going to think I was an A name or a psychopath
spies4Zander (1:31:51 PM): so when Beverly came out I was like "Please, let everyone go for her"
spies4Lloyd (1:32:11 PM): lol
spies4Zander (1:32:13 PM): I know how Rei can be with accusation votes so I was like praying that she didnt figure out who I was
spies4Zander (1:32:21 PM): I didn't want to be another Judith
spies4Lloyd (1:32:26 PM): seriously
spies4Lloyd (1:32:37 PM): I was gonna post this morning "DONT MAKE ANOTHER JUDITH"

[Zander]

spies4Zander (1:32:42 PM): aha!
spies4Lloyd (1:32:44 PM): but forgot to since I woke up late
spies4Zander (1:32:54 PM): It could happen though
spies4Zander (1:33:00 PM): I shouldn't have even told my family, that was a stupid move
spies4Lloyd (1:33:07 PM): not if we go with the unanimous majority
spies4Lloyd (1:33:16 PM): thats why I suspect you
spies4Zander (1:33:27 PM): Lol, and again I can't blame you
spies4Lloyd (1:33:41 PM): I am so torn
spies4Zander (1:34:03 PM): I think if I try to defend myself I'll only seem more suspicious, so I don't know what to do lol
spies4Lloyd (1:34:04 PM): you are truly looking like you just made a mistake, but you [play that card excelently
spies4Zander (1:34:59 PM): I basically trusted my family to keep the information secret, since I don't suspect any of them, and in the very least didn't suspect any of them to run with the information
spies4Zander (1:35:12 PM): So, it was a mistake but you can take it how you want lol
spies4Lloyd (1:35:20 PM): well reporting suspicious bahvaiour is only natural
spies4Lloyd (1:35:31 PM): so you cant blame ralph
spies4Zander (1:35:41 PM): True but I didn't think it was suspicious when Ralph and Gordy were asking me to tell them
spies4Lloyd (1:35:52 PM): although gordy's response raised an eye brow
spies4Zander (1:36:16 PM): If either of those two are spies I'll honestely be surprised, and hate myself for not seriously suspecting them
spies4Lloyd (1:36:41 PM): my spy list is in shambles after what just happened
spies4Zander (1:36:47 PM): Lol
spies4Lloyd (1:36:48 PM): I feel that I have to change it one way or another
spies4Lloyd (1:37:12 PM): oh shit, the challenge
spies4Zander (1:37:27 PM): I have a feeling my family isn't even going to decide on a time
spies4Lloyd (1:37:58 PM): havent even looked at it yet, lol
spies4Zander (1:38:02 PM): This fucking situation sucks, because now I'm thinking of how every person in my family could a be spy
spies4Zander (1:39:02 PM): Our whole initial idea as a family was to work together regardless of identity, and now it's like we're just focusing on one another
spies4Zander (1:39:09 PM): This morning Ralph told me he wants to exile Madison
spies4Lloyd (1:39:21 PM): I did too
spies4Lloyd (1:39:24 PM): not sure now though
spies4Lloyd (1:39:31 PM): actually I still do
spies4Zander (1:39:33 PM): Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't suspect her?
spies4Lloyd (1:39:42 PM): did you read my reasoning?
spies4Zander (1:39:45 PM): No lol
spies4Lloyd (1:39:49 PM): maybe thats why
spies4Lloyd (1:39:50 PM):
spies4Zander (1:39:59 PM): I have a lot to catch up on in the burg, with classes and everything I'm usually gone for the whole day
spies4Zander (1:40:08 PM): which thread is it?
spies4Lloyd (1:40:08 PM): I know how you feel
spies4Lloyd (1:40:12 PM): my main suspects
spies4Zander (1:40:48 PM): hmm...
spies4Zander (1:40:57 PM): Not that I should be, but just to defened Madison a little
spies4Zander (1:41:22 PM): Ralph has been pushing our whole family on how to think, who to vote, etc. I can't blame her for ultimately following his decision and my suspicion of Martha's talk with me
spies4Zander (1:42:00 PM): Even if she did change her mind, at the same time, Martha did change her mind frequently as well, so it's not something as simple as that I think
spies4Lloyd (1:42:12 PM): I though gordy told your family hannah's was voting martha's then you and madison joined in
spies4Zander (1:42:22 PM): It was a BIG combination of events
spies4Zander (1:42:29 PM): Right after I posted parts of my conversation with Martha
spies4Zander (1:42:32 PM): Gordy informed us of that
spies4Zander (1:42:46 PM): Ralph basically gathered all of it, and said we should stick together as a family and vote Martha
spies4Zander (1:43:01 PM): All of us basically had reasons for voting for her of our own, except Madison I guess, but she was following the lead
spies4Zander (1:43:05 PM): Don't know if that's good or bad
spies4Lloyd (1:43:50 PM): hmmm, ralph said that you and madison jumped over and that he followed to stick together
spies4Lloyd (1:44:08 PM): I am like so sure that you OR ralph are spies
spies4Zander (1:44:12 PM): I really don't believ that
spies4Zander (1:44:17 PM): *believe
spies4Zander (1:44:24 PM): Let me see if I have anything about the martha vote logged
spies4Lloyd (1:44:27 PM): what ralph said or what I think
spies4Zander (1:44:33 PM): What ralph said
spies4Zander (1:44:37 PM): lol how would I know what you think
spies4Lloyd (1:44:47 PM): i meant about it being correct
spies4Lloyd (1:44:54 PM): meanig you trust ralph
spies4Lloyd (1:44:59 PM): do you trust ralph?
spies4Zander (1:45:04 PM): I would hope I can
spies4Zander (1:45:14 PM): Until exile night I fully trusted him
spies4Zander (1:45:20 PM): and now after this I'm not sure, but I still want to
spies4Lloyd (1:45:21 PM): oohhhh
spies4Lloyd (1:45:26 PM): something I forgot to ask
spies4Lloyd (1:45:36 PM): did singe tell you anything big about ralph?
spies4Zander (1:45:45 PM): Not that I recall...
spies4Lloyd (1:45:47 PM): like what ralph did near the beginining?
spies4Zander (1:45:53 PM): I actually haven't spoken to singe in a bit
spies4Zander (1:46:01 PM): let me check, I have some stuff saved so I might just have to re-read it
spies4Lloyd (1:46:17 PM): did ralph appraoch you in the beginning?
spies4Lloyd (1:46:24 PM): and say anything interesting?
spies4Zander (1:46:45 PM): in the beginning like before identities were revealed?
spies4Lloyd (1:46:49 PM): yeah
spies4Lloyd (1:46:55 PM): or even right after they were revealed
spies4Lloyd (1:47:15 PM): if he is a spy, this is how I will catch him
spies4Zander (1:47:29 PM): Let's see...
spies4Zander (1:47:37 PM): He told me he was planning on playing out of character
spies4Zander (1:47:49 PM): He said if I needed any help or strategies he was in...
spies4Zander (1:47:58 PM): and he said he was a solid guy...
spies4Zander (1:48:06 PM): that was before identities just in an initial chat...
spies4Lloyd (1:48:20 PM): hmmm
spies4Lloyd (1:48:27 PM): like an alliance type thing?
spies4Zander (1:48:38 PM): Basically, that's why we joined the same family
spies4Lloyd (1:48:46 PM): ugggh
spies4Zander (1:48:50 PM): I made a footnote that he did seem like a solid guy and if he was deceiving me it wouldn't be too hard to pick up on
spies4Lloyd (1:48:53 PM): he made the same offer to me and singe
spies4Zander (1:49:01 PM): really?
spies4Lloyd (1:49:03 PM): yup
spies4Zander (1:49:06 PM): fuck.
spies4Lloyd (1:49:16 PM): we pretended to hate eachother to divert attention
spies4Lloyd (1:49:26 PM): our allaince was why he told me you knew me
spies4Zander (1:49:33 PM): I was wondering why he ran to you with info
spies4Zander (1:49:49 PM): I really don't want to believe or think that Ralph is a spy
spies4Lloyd (1:49:51 PM): he was my #3 suspect
spies4Lloyd (1:50:03 PM): now he is pushing #1
spies4Zander (1:50:20 PM): Lol, I'm guessing I'm #1 right now
spies4Lloyd (1:50:25 PM): still madison
spies4Lloyd (1:50:36 PM): you and ralph is an either or for me
spies4Zander (1:50:49 PM): lol, everyone in my family
spies4Lloyd (1:50:54 PM): put one in and the other is completely gone from my list
spies4Lloyd (1:51:08 PM): yes, only 2 from your family will likely be spies
spies4Zander (1:51:24 PM): I still kinda wish Sam would tell us how many there are
spies4Lloyd (1:51:30 PM): 6
spies4Zander (1:51:34 PM): are you sure?
spies4Lloyd (1:51:35 PM): I am like soo sure
spies4Lloyd (1:51:41 PM): it just fits
spies4Zander (1:51:42 PM): It makes sense with the numbers, but who knows
spies4Zander (1:52:01 PM): If he created enough abilities to counter-balance a higher or lower number, it would make sense for the number to vary
spies4Zander (1:52:08 PM): But I agree, I thought 6 at the start as well
spies4Lloyd (1:52:16 PM): i was thinking 7
spies4Lloyd (1:52:21 PM): but that may be a tad too hight
spies4Zander (1:52:23 PM): I think 7 is way too much
spies4Zander (1:52:28 PM): unless he has some great abilities out there
spies4Lloyd (1:53:17 PM): lol, 666 posts in the burg
spies4Zander (1:53:21 PM): haha
spies4Lloyd (1:54:29 PM): shit
spies4Zander (1:54:31 PM): God this just made my mood all shitty
spies4Zander (1:54:34 PM): what?
spies4Lloyd (1:54:35 PM): I just checked the challenge
spies4Zander (1:54:41 PM): aha
spies4Lloyd (1:54:46 PM): my team is all fucking retarded
spies4Zander (1:54:52 PM): haha
spies4Lloyd (1:54:58 PM): hey, I am starting to trust you
spies4Lloyd (1:55:02 PM): your mood should be fine
spies4Zander (1:55:06 PM): Aw come on, Bunni's not that bad if she's online, and I don't think Faizah is terrible either
spies4Lloyd (1:55:06 PM): oooooh
spies4Lloyd (1:55:13 PM): something put me in an awesome mood today
spies4Zander (1:55:15 PM): Beverly on the other hand...
spies4Zander (1:55:25 PM): Thanks
spies4Lloyd (1:55:36 PM): I was leaving the metro and some kid and his mom were walking through the little metal bars thing
spies4Lloyd (1:55:45 PM): you know the one that spins as someone goes through it
spies4Zander (1:55:54 PM): haha yeah
spies4Lloyd (1:56:15 PM): well his mom tried to go though with him behind her, so after she walks throughm she pulls her 5 yo son right into the next bar coming up
spies4Lloyd (1:56:33 PM): it strikes him in the chest and he barfs all over her expensive coat
spies4Zander (1:56:37 PM): HAHAHA
spies4Zander (1:56:48 PM): that is awesome
spies4Lloyd (1:56:53 PM): the kid was crying and his mom was flipping out because the coat was ruined
spies4Lloyd (1:56:59 PM): so hilarious
spies4Zander (1:57:08 PM): I love when things happen and it's just like "no, this wasn't bad luck. God WANTED you to get your coat ruined"
spies4Lloyd (1:57:18 PM): XD
spies4Zander (1:57:50 PM): This weekend is homecoming, so we have this service for Sunday that I have to sing for and we're all excited about it because on Homecoming weekend the pastor tells the CRAZIEST sermons ever
spies4Zander (1:58:15 PM): last year his involved this story about a girl who was riding in a bus, the bus hit a bump so she lost her balance and let go of the pole she was holding onto...
spies4Zander (1:58:28 PM): as she fell into the staircase, the doors to the bus opened, and she fell out of the bus...
spies4Zander (1:58:42 PM): And the bus ran over a curb so she fell out onto the curb and the bus ran her over... And killed her.
spies4Lloyd (1:58:50 PM): .....
spies4Lloyd (1:58:56 PM): XD
spies4Zander (1:58:59 PM): So let's recap. This girl is riding in a bus. She falls. The doors open. She falls out, gets run over by the bus she was riding in, and dies.
spies4Zander (1:59:03 PM): Clearly, God said it was game over
spies4Zander (1:59:17 PM): it might be my favorite "religious experience' ever haha
spies4Zander (1:59:58 PM): Anyway, I gotta get going. There are some alumni back this weekend so I wanna hang out with them for a while. I'll talk to you later?
spies4Zander (2:06:45 PM): Nevermind, everyone left without me lol
spies4Lloyd (2:06:55 PM): lol
spies4Lloyd (2:07:01 PM): meanies
spies4Lloyd (2:18:09 PM): so you sure you didn't accuse me?
spies4Zander (2:24:22 PM): Absolutely
spies4Zander (2:24:25 PM): I haven't accused anyone
spies4Lloyd (2:24:35 PM): k
spies4Lloyd (2:24:46 PM): I'm gonna figure out who else accused me
spies4Lloyd (2:24:51 PM): or who accused me
spies4Lloyd (2:24:57 PM): who else knows is what I meant
spies4Zander (2:25:14 PM): It could have been a bunch of people, p robably
spies4Zander (2:25:39 PM): Like I thought you accused me but I also thought that whoever Rei was could have done it
spies4Zander (2:25:42 PM): if Jack is in the game...
spies4Zander (2:25:44 PM): maybe
spies4Lloyd (2:26:07 PM): tenchi
spies4Zander (2:26:14 PM): Do you think he's playing?
spies4Lloyd (2:27:17 PM): he made like 20 posts before the game began
spies4Lloyd (2:27:20 PM): I am positive
spies4Zander (2:27:48 PM): Whoever he is I think he's doing a good job hiding his identity
spies4Zander (2:27:54 PM): I thought he might have been Sherri at first
spies4Lloyd (2:28:14 PM): hmmm
spies4Zander (2:28:22 PM): Gah, now I have to actually go this time...
spies4Zander (2:28:24 PM): I'll be back later
spies4Lloyd (2:28:28 PM): seeya
spies4Lloyd signed off at 5:03:00 PM.
spies4Lloyd signed on at 7:54:50 PM.
spies4Lloyd (8:01:58 PM): hey
spies4Zander (8:02:24 PM): hey
spies4Lloyd (8:02:31 PM): anything happen?
spies4Zander (8:02:48 PM): Nothing really that I know of
spies4Zander (8:02:59 PM): I found out Ralph happens to be aligned with a bunch of people
spies4Lloyd (8:03:05 PM): just as I though
spies4Lloyd (8:03:07 PM): t
spies4Zander (8:03:16 PM): And he told me he spread the information to you to keep me safe from Imprisonment tonight?
spies4Zander (8:03:22 PM): I'm not sure how much I believe that though
spies4Lloyd (8:04:32 PM): what what?
spies4Lloyd (8:04:41 PM): to keep you safe?
spies4Zander (8:04:46 PM): Ralph said he wanted to keep me safe from the Imprisonment?
spies4Zander (8:04:51 PM): I dunno, he posted it in our family thread
spies4Zander (8:04:54 PM): it doesn't make sense to me
spies4Lloyd (8:04:58 PM): nor me
spies4Lloyd (8:05:04 PM): we never talked about imprisonment
spies4Zander (8:05:27 PM): Wait is Imprisonment tonight or tomorrow?
spies4Lloyd (8:05:39 PM): tomorrow
spies4Zander (8:05:41 PM): Why did someone tell me it was tonight?...
spies4Lloyd (8:05:44 PM): I thought it was tonight
spies4Zander (8:05:49 PM): That's what like 2 people told me lol
spies4Lloyd (8:05:53 PM): someone told me, dont remember who
spies4Zander (8:06:26 PM): Well at least I have at least one day left
spies4Zander (8:06:58 PM): I'm just so pissed off right now about everything. I don't know why Ralph is doing what he's doing, "trying to protect you and Madison and our family", and I'm probably going to be eliminated soon regardless of the method
spies4Lloyd (8:07:28 PM): I am probably gonna push for ralph over you
spies4Zander (8:07:43 PM): Do you honestly suspect him or are you trying to make me feel better?
spies4Lloyd (8:07:48 PM): I do
spies4Lloyd (8:07:50 PM): seriously
spies4Lloyd (8:08:03 PM): I feel he took your mistake, and put the spotlight on it
spies4Zander (8:08:20 PM): I just feel like he's spreading small things people are saying/doing, and trying to make it reason for them to go
spies4Zander (8:08:35 PM): And I don't understand why he's aligned with X amount of people
spies4Lloyd (8:08:48 PM): cuz he is a rat
spies4Zander (8:09:29 PM): But is he a spy rat or a citizen rat? lol
spies4Zander (8:09:36 PM): I just don't get the reasoning for what he does
spies4Lloyd (8:10:18 PM): spies4Ralph (12:26:44 PM): hey
spies4Lloyd (12:27:48 PM): hi
spies4Ralph (12:28:01 PM): i kno im not ure favorite person right now
spies4Lloyd (12:28:09 PM): ive calmed down a bit
spies4Ralph (12:28:25 PM): good
spies4Lloyd (12:28:35 PM): have you heard my name come up?
spies4Lloyd (12:28:40 PM): for exile?
spies4Lloyd (12:28:48 PM): of course it has come up otherwise, lol
spies4Lloyd (12:28:57 PM): but I wanna know if people are that stupid
spies4Ralph (12:29:34 PM): i havent heard ure name i keep ehraing me madison naomi and ,kip
spies4Lloyd (12:29:48 PM): naomi has dropped a few points on my list
spies4Lloyd (12:30:02 PM): and its good to know that others agree wityh me about kip without me even having to voice it
spies4Ralph (12:31:00 PM): i have also heard people think u are Jessica from last season
spies4Lloyd (8:10:35 PM): thats how fast he went into it with no reason leading into it
spies4Zander (8:11:08 PM): Hold up... I think that might be a lie
spies4Zander (8:11:15 PM): that he didn't hear your name come up
spies4Lloyd (8:11:36 PM): of course
spies4Zander (8:11:59 PM): In that chat log I sent you, Gordy says right there that you were his #1 suspect
spies4Zander (8:12:04 PM): how did Ralph not hear your name come up lol
spies4Lloyd (8:12:20 PM): haha
spies4Lloyd (8:12:26 PM): cant believe I missed that
spies4Zander (8:12:32 PM): it was part of the reason why I said your identity lol
spies4Zander (8:14:02 PM): I just find that funny and convenient how he overlooked that when it was 2 lines away in the conversation about your identity lol
spies4Zander (8:14:51 PM): But he didn't have the log so I can't really blame him
spies4Lloyd (8:16:42 PM): gtg
spies4Zander (8:16:53 PM): Okay...
spies4Lloyd signed off at 8:16:59 PM.
spies4Lloyd signed on at 8:41:22 AM.
spies4Lloyd signed off at 10:05:29 AM.


*Kills Lloyd*

[Zander]

spies4Beverly (7:51:49 PM): hi zander
spies4Zander (7:51:53 PM): Hey Bev
spies4Beverly (7:51:57 PM): whats up
spies4Zander (7:52:09 PM): Not too much I guess...
spies4Zander (7:52:10 PM): how are you?
spies4Beverly (7:52:17 PM): i am ok
spies4Beverly (7:52:27 PM): i just fighted with cain tho
spies4Zander (7:52:32 PM): really? Why?
spies4Beverly (7:52:40 PM): he told me not to use caps and was rude about it
spies4Zander (7:52:55 PM): Wow...
spies4Zander (7:53:08 PM): For someone who doesn't talk much he shouldn't be telling you what to do. That's just my opinion though
spies4Beverly (7:53:21 PM): he said he isnt talking to me if i dont use caps
spies4Beverly (7:53:25 PM): we just met so screw him
spies4Zander (7:54:19 PM): Well at least your situation is about caps and not about people thinking you're a spy / trying to make you look like one
spies4Beverly (7:54:46 PM): what are ppl saying u r a spy
spies4Zander (7:55:02 PM): I know Lloyd is, because of Ralph
spies4Beverly (7:55:14 PM): i will yell at them hold on
spies4Zander (7:55:27 PM): That probably won't help solve anything, hah
spies4Beverly (7:55:39 PM): well thats not nice its a lie urnt a spy
spies4Zander (7:56:03 PM): Ralph took something I said in confidence to my family, took it and ran to Lloyd, and now Lloyd thinks I'm a spy because of it. I can't blame Lloyd for disliking me for it or suspecting me for it, but I have to wonder why Ralph did it
spies4Zander (7:56:15 PM): the motive to me, just seems... non-existent
spies4Beverly (7:56:32 PM): well now what
spies4Beverly (7:56:39 PM): i dont even know what we are doing
spies4Beverly (7:56:44 PM): everything seems a mess
spies4Zander (7:56:50 PM): It's because everything is a mess
spies4Zander (7:57:09 PM): Ralph is spreading information in a way that's making his closest ally's seem suspicious and I don't know why
spies4Beverly (7:57:23 PM): what
spies4Beverly (7:57:25 PM): i am his ally
spies4Beverly (7:57:32 PM): what is he saying about me
spies4Zander (7:58:04 PM): Apparently everyone in the game is Ralph's ally
spies4Zander (7:58:16 PM): Did you know he's aligned with Lloyd? Singe? Kip? My family? Faizah?
spies4Zander (7:58:19 PM): Basically everyone
spies4Beverly (7:58:25 PM): i know he is with most hotties
spies4Zander (7:58:34 PM): And he's only saying stuff about me and Madison

spies4Beverly (7:58:37 PM): why is he with so many
spies4Beverly (7:58:40 PM): madison why
spies4Beverly (7:58:50 PM): hes closest with her he told me shes his number 1 and i am his number 2
spies4Zander (7:59:19 PM): He told me I was his number 2
spies4Zander (7:59:39 PM): I don't know why he's throwing all of these names out there, or why he took information my family discussed to other people
spies4Beverly (7:59:43 PM): wtf um thats retarded
spies4Zander (7:59:55 PM): Especially since now I guess Lloyd thinks I"m a spy
spies4Beverly (7:59:56 PM): did u notice how he acts like hes dumb
spies4Beverly (7:59:59 PM): since identities
spies4Beverly (8:00:05 PM): he always misspells and stuff
spies4Beverly (8:00:10 PM): and before he was all nice and proper
spies4Beverly (8:00:20 PM): i thot he was mocking me but his posts ont eh forum were the same
spies4Zander (8:00:40 PM): Yeah...
spies4Zander (8:00:51 PM): I think he wants to be a silent threat, but I don't know which side he's playing anymore
spies4Beverly (8:01:01 PM): well maybe he wants to avoid imprison
spies4Zander (8:01:11 PM): Yes but we all do
spies4Zander (8:01:18 PM): and we don't have to throw our closest friends in suspicion to do so
spies4Zander (8:01:29 PM): he's going to turn all of us against each other when we don't suspect one another
spies4Beverly (8:01:44 PM): well what do we do about it
spies4Zander (8:01:58 PM): I don't even know. Hope we survive tonight and then figure it out?
spies4Zander (8:02:07 PM): Figure out if Ralph was trying to protect us from Imprisonment, I mean
spies4Beverly (8:02:30 PM): whats tonight
spies4Zander (8:02:43 PM): Imprisonment
spies4Beverly (8:02:51 PM): the forum says saturday
spies4Beverly (8:02:52 PM): it is flashing
spies4Beverly (8:02:54 PM): Imprisonment II Saturday night 7:00 PM CST non-live
spies4Beverly (8:03:00 PM): lloyd just asked me
spies4Zander (8:03:40 PM): oh really? Madison told me tonight
spies4Zander (8:03:48 PM): Well at least I have one day left haha
spies4Beverly (8:03:49 PM): why wud she say that
spies4Beverly (8:03:55 PM): 1 day left for waht
spies4Zander (8:03:57 PM): I think it was Madison
spies4Zander (8:04:00 PM): Imprisonment
spies4Beverly (8:04:15 PM): why wud u go
spies4Zander (8:04:19 PM): I was saying at least i have one day left before I get Imprisoned :-P
spies4Zander (8:04:21 PM): Who knows
spies4Zander (8:04:25 PM): There's always that chance though
spies4Beverly (8:04:31 PM): tell me about it
spies4Beverly (8:04:46 PM): i am trying to shut up and not be onlinetoo much because i want themt o forget im around
spies4Zander (8:06:09 PM): I'm just worried
spies4Beverly (8:06:40 PM): i am more worried that maddy will getexiled
spies4Zander (8:07:11 PM): Me too, I think she's being set up
spies4Beverly (8:07:28 PM): every1 is jumping on her its dumb
spies4Zander (8:09:40 PM): I completely agree
spies4Zander (8:09:45 PM): And she's basically defenseless
spies4Beverly (8:09:54 PM): shes smart too its a joke i think
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spies4Beverly (1:39:25 AM): hi zander
spies4Zander (1:39:51 AM): Hey bev
spies4Beverly (1:40:00 AM): how are things
spies4Zander (1:42:10 AM): Good I suppose
spies4Zander (1:42:15 AM): I'm feeling a lot better than I was earlier
spies4Beverly (1:42:18 AM): im bored no one even talks
spies4Beverly (1:42:20 AM): oh why
spies4Beverly (1:42:23 AM): did u make up
spies4Beverly (1:42:27 AM): aw
spies4Zander (1:42:33 AM): I just realized it was silly to worry about
spies4Zander (1:42:41 AM): I mean, if people really suspect me, then they really suspect me
spies4Beverly (1:42:50 AM): well no1 told me theydo
spies4Zander (1:42:56 AM): but I don't think that many people do, I think it is just Ralph trying to make Lloyd believe some things
spies4Zander (1:43:05 AM): and from what Lloyd tells me, he basically suspects Ralph more
spies4Beverly (1:43:08 AM): except lloyd seemed mad for no reaso
spies4Zander (1:43:10 AM): so why fret over something I have no control over?
spies4Beverly (1:43:18 AM): dont kno
spies4Zander (1:43:19 AM): doesn't he always? hah!
spies4Beverly (1:43:50 AM): lollll
spies4Beverly (2:01:26 AM): i just posted in the burg u shud c it
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[Zander]

spies4Masaki (7:30:29 PM): Hey Z
spies4Zander (7:30:32 PM): Hey Masaki
spies4Zander (7:30:34 PM): how are you doing?
spies4Masaki (7:30:39 PM): Not bad, you?
spies4Zander (7:30:54 PM): I'm okay I guess... Worried about tonight, but other than that not too awful I guess
spies4Masaki (7:31:11 PM): Yeah Imprisonment
spies4Masaki (7:31:36 PM): Hopefully it tells us something at least.
spies4Zander (7:32:25 PM): True, but there aren't that many Imprisonments that would do so I think
spies4Zander (7:32:50 PM): The spies will probably pick someone that's a bit quieter but still a threat to them
spies4Masaki (7:33:03 PM): I hope that isn't me
spies4Masaki (7:33:07 PM): I'm definitely not the most vocal
spies4Zander (7:33:07 PM): I agree
spies4Zander (7:33:36 PM): I've tried to become more vocal after Exile to keep myself safe from Imprisonment, but that appears to have just made me a possible exile target or something, hah
spies4Masaki (7:41:55 PM): thus begins the never-ending cycle
spies4Zander (7:42:15 PM): The never-ending cycle that sucks
spies4Masaki (7:42:53 PM): yeah
spies4Masaki (7:43:07 PM): a lot of people took it too far last season
spies4Zander (7:43:25 PM): Yeah, I saw that hah
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[Zander]

spies4madison (7:20:35 PM): zander :-)
spies4Zander (7:22:34 PM): Ugh, hey madison
spies4madison (7:22:39 PM): whats wrong hon?
spies4Zander (7:22:41 PM): Sorry I'm just in a really sour mood right now
spies4Zander (7:22:46 PM): Ralph
spies4Zander (7:22:54 PM): Obviously all the drama happening in our family thread
spies4madison (7:23:09 PM): catch me up on it please, i have no idea. im talking to gordy but he's talking about random things.
spies4Zander (7:23:22 PM): Well you know on exile night, when I said I think I know who accused me
spies4madison (7:23:28 PM): right
spies4Zander (7:23:31 PM): Well I revealed what I thought was the identity of that person
spies4Zander (7:23:39 PM): and Gordy and Ralph both said I could trust them with the info before I said it
spies4madison (7:23:47 PM): right
spies4Zander (7:23:49 PM): then apparently Ralph ran to Lloyd today and told him what I said!
spies4madison (7:23:52 PM): whaaat
spies4madison (7:23:55 PM): why would he do that?
spies4Zander (7:24:03 PM): So Lloyd thinks I accused him, and that both you and I are spies
spies4madison (7:24:10 PM): oh good.
spies4madison (7:24:14 PM): yeah im totally a spy
spies4Zander (7:24:15 PM): Because Ralph is a liar, and he has multiple alliances
spies4madison (7:24:22 PM): ralph is all over the fucking place.
spies4Zander (7:24:25 PM): I know, right? And Ralph honestly agrees with Lloyd apparently
spies4madison (7:24:28 PM): he's too rash.
spies4madison (7:24:35 PM): that we're spies?
spies4Zander (7:24:39 PM): Apparently he has alliances with Singe, Lloyd, Faizah, us, someone else?
spies4Zander (7:24:43 PM): Yeah I guess so
spies4madison (7:24:52 PM): i wouldn't be surprised
spies4madison (7:25:04 PM): i think he was trying to work with me before identities were revealed
spies4madison (7:25:06 PM): ill go look
spies4Zander (7:25:06 PM): I wouldn't be surprised if Im Imprisoned or Exiled tonight
spies4madison (7:25:19 PM): wait, whats happening tonight?
spies4madison (7:25:24 PM): my fucking internet
spies4Zander (7:25:31 PM): I looked at my chat logs today after Lloyd asked me to - Ralph asked me for a basic alliance before identities
spies4Zander (7:25:36 PM): Oh sorry, Imprisonment is tonight
spies4Zander (7:25:39 PM): I think Exile is Monday
spies4madison (7:25:43 PM): dammit
spies4madison (7:25:49 PM): well let me look and see about ralph
spies4Zander (7:26:41 PM): My problem is that I actually thought I could trust him with what I said. But clearly he is taking what I say, manipulating it to make himself look better or to make me look suspicious, and spreading it around

spies4madison (7:26:45 PM): (2:32:35 PM) spies4Ralph: can we talk strategy for just one second
(2:32:48 PM) spies4Madison: no point to talk it now, but go ahead.
(2:33:20PM) spies4Ralph: well i am just looking for someone to kind of have myback throughout this game one person i am close to and can trust
(2:33:29 PM) spies4Madison: Right
(2:33:48 PM) spies4Ralph: i kind of want to find out that person before everything is revealed tonight
(2:34:04 PM) spies4Madison: But What if you find the wrong person!
spies4madison (7:27:05 PM): (2:34:11 PM) spies4Madison: anyway, I'll be your girl.
(2:34:14 PM) spies4Madison: I got your back.
(2:34:21 PM) spies4Ralph: thats a chance but i also think it will have to be kept secret
(2:34:29 PM) spies4Ralph: we dont need to reveal to everyone we are a pair
(2:34:47 PM) spies4Madison: We're good.
(2:35:08 PM) spies4Ralph: what if there is a split
(2:35:27 PM) spies4Madison: i was just reading that in the other chat
(2:35:33 PM) spies4Madison: that would so make sense
spies4madison (7:27:09 PM): all that was before reveal
spies4madison (7:27:18 PM): obviously i wasn't gonna be like um no.
spies4Zander (7:27:37 PM): Can I be honest with you?
spies4madison (7:27:46 PM): (2:42:31 PM) spies4Ralph: to many people do not like beveryly already
(2:42:35 PM) spies4Madison: realy
(2:42:44 PM) spies4Ralph: zander abram and lise
(2:43:21 PM) spies4Madison: She just has a GIGANTIC personality, I will see how she is as time goes on.
(2:43:25 PM) spies4Madison: she is exhausting to be sure.
(2:43:32 PM) spies4Ralph: yeah
(2:43:46 PM) spies4Ralph: for some reason i relaly feel like i can trust u
spies4madison (7:27:47 PM): yep
spies4Zander (7:28:05 PM): Day 1. Right after identities are revealed... Ralph told me that no matter what I had to protect the two of you
spies4Zander (7:28:24 PM): not like I was going to be like "OMG EXILE/IMPRISON MY FAMILY", but he said that he absolutely trusted you and needed you in this game
spies4Zander (7:28:33 PM): and now I hear from other people that he is spreading your name around like wildfire for exile
spies4madison (7:28:40 PM): well thats bullshit.
spies4Zander (7:28:45 PM): I don't know what his purpose is, and I'm being honest
spies4madison (7:28:48 PM): he was all over me a few days ago.
spies4madison (7:28:55 PM): 'be my spies girlfriend'
spies4madison (7:28:59 PM): i swear to you.
spies4Zander (7:29:06 PM): ...

spies4Zander (7:29:11 PM): WHY would he do this?
spies4madison (7:29:14 PM): i dont know
spies4Zander (7:29:25 PM): All it's doing is basically tearing our family apart
spies4madison (7:29:41 PM): yep.
spies4madison (7:29:47 PM): i had no idea
spies4madison (7:29:49 PM): i wanna talk to him
spies4Zander (7:29:57 PM): I do too, I'm not done yelling at him
spies4Zander (7:30:19 PM): I think the "purpose" for doing this that he posted in the thread was a lie
spies4Zander (7:30:27 PM): clearly he's playing multiple sides, and I don't understand why
spies4madison (7:31:17 PM): i missed a day of convos and i wish i hadnt
spies4madison (7:31:21 PM): but im looking now
spies4madison (7:31:25 PM): i mean what the fuck is he doing?
spies4Zander (7:31:34 PM): that's my point.
spies4madison (7:31:34 PM): it doesn't make sense
spies4madison (7:31:42 PM): its not like... survivor or some sort of other game.
spies4Zander (7:31:44 PM): Like I can't even tell if he's a citizen anymore, and I almost 100% was sure th eother day
spies4madison (7:31:47 PM): doing what he's doing is nonsensical
spies4madison (7:31:55 PM): he could just be a total moron.
spies4Zander (7:32:05 PM): It sucks when you want to trust someone and they take your trust and burn it
spies4madison (7:32:13 PM): yes
spies4madison (7:32:16 PM): im so pissed off right now
spies4madison (7:32:24 PM): trust me, you don't want a pissed off madison.
spies4Zander (7:33:03 PM): I basically toned done my post in our family thread from its original version
spies4madison (7:33:11 PM): really?
spies4Zander (7:33:43 PM): Yeah. I was FUMING.
spies4madison (7:34:32 PM): do you trust gordy?
spies4madison (7:34:40 PM): i mean at this point, i trust you and thats it
spies4madison (7:34:46 PM): i trusted ralph even though he's weird
spies4madison (7:34:48 PM): but now im too pissed
spies4Zander (7:35:09 PM): I think Gordy is playing on all of our good sides. It's strong spy potential but I feel like I could trust him with information more than I could Ralph
spies4madison (7:35:15 PM): okay.
spies4madison (7:35:17 PM): hmmm.
spies4Zander (7:35:20 PM): My problem with Ralph is he's just clearly willing to throw anyone under the bus to keep himself safe
spies4madison (7:35:24 PM): well, lets put our heads together for now then.
spies4Zander (7:35:31 PM): And hope we both make it past imprisonment
spies4Zander (7:35:42 PM): My question is why is Ralph trying to help make both of us exile targets?
spies4madison (7:36:03 PM): it doesnt make sense.
spies4madison (7:36:04 PM): well
spies4madison (7:36:10 PM): that could be what he's doing
spies4madison (7:36:12 PM): actually
spies4Zander (7:36:24 PM): That's the only thing I think it leads to
spies4madison (7:36:27 PM): keep us safe through imprisonment BUT
spies4madison (7:36:34 PM): its still very reckless and unnecessary
spies4madison (7:36:41 PM): and draws way too much god damn attention to our family
spies4madison (7:36:45 PM): i dont LIKE that
spies4Zander (7:36:53 PM): I agree
spies4Zander (7:36:58 PM): He has to know how to handle it
spies4madison (7:37:31 PM): i need to talk to him
spies4madison (7:37:38 PM): im pissed :-)
spies4madison (7:38:05 PM): (5:35:08 PM) spies4Ralph: yeah i missed u yesterday
(5:36:11 PM) spies4madison: I know! I missed you too!
(5:36:16 PM) spies4madison: I was glad to get your messages though
(5:36:34 PM) spies4Ralph: i left u a bunch to let u know i was thinking about u and that i was still working fo rus
spies4madison (7:38:08 PM): blahblahblah.
spies4madison (7:38:17 PM): i mean maybe he has a good explanation
spies4madison (7:38:21 PM): but maybe not.
spies4madison (7:38:29 PM): which is why im just talking to you and a bit to gordy about it right now.
spies4Zander (7:38:41 PM): Yeah...
spies4Zander (7:38:43 PM): is he even on?
spies4madison (7:39:04 PM): no
spies4madison (7:39:08 PM): all that stuff is from my confessional
spies4madison (7:39:10 PM): from days ago
spies4Zander (7:39:17 PM): Ah
spies4Zander (7:39:49 PM): I think the problem is our family is too good looking. So now clearly everyone is trying to make us suspects
spies4Zander (7:39:50 PM): hah!
spies4madison (7:40:19 PM): they are jealous.
spies4madison (7:40:31 PM): they dont want me to have the hottest men or the hottest men to have me. obviously.
spies4madison (7:40:44 PM): haha ralph is obviously threatened by you.
spies4Zander (7:40:55 PM): hah! That must be it
spies4Zander (7:41:03 PM): he's sad I got to have a card in my picture, and that he kinda looks like a chick
spies4madison (7:41:06 PM): whoa, we really are hands down the best looking.
spies4Zander (7:41:22 PM): Clearly!
spies4Zander (7:41:37 PM): I just realized that like two minutes ago lol
spies4madison (7:41:41 PM): singe looks kind of like a serial killer
spies4Zander (7:41:50 PM): Aw I love Singe though lol
spies4madison (7:41:51 PM): has beverly given up on you yet?
spies4Zander (7:41:52 PM): no Johan does!
spies4Zander (7:41:56 PM): Boy I hope so
spies4Zander (7:42:00 PM): I hope she's at least taking the game seriously now
spies4madison (7:42:03 PM): she was kinda psycho all over you
spies4madison (7:42:08 PM): i am in LOVE GIRL
spies4madison (7:42:12 PM): lol
spies4Zander (7:42:23 PM): haha
spies4Zander (7:43:06 PM): I think Candy could learn from Beverly about how to not be a bitch
spies4madison (7:43:24 PM): is candy a bitch? i talked to her earlier she seemed a bit cold.
spies4Zander (7:43:31 PM): She is a bitch to everyone
spies4Zander (7:43:34 PM): I think it's strategy
spies4madison (7:43:36 PM): could be
spies4madison (7:46:06 PM): holy shit
spies4madison (7:46:13 PM): im catching up in lloyd's thread
spies4madison (7:46:18 PM): im really not a spy
spies4madison (7:46:19 PM): haha
spies4madison (7:46:21 PM): this is ridiculous
spies4Zander (7:48:37 PM): lol
spies4Zander (7:49:02 PM): The worst thing is, saying anything, especially contradictory, will only incriminate you in his eyes
spies4madison (7:52:20 PM): i dont know what to say
spies4madison (7:52:21 PM): though
spies4madison (7:52:22 PM): i mean
spies4madison (7:52:24 PM): i know what i want to say
spies4madison (7:52:30 PM): b/c i dont want it to get ripped to shreds either
spies4madison (7:52:33 PM): know what i mean?
spies4Zander (7:52:38 PM): Exactly
spies4madison (7:52:44 PM): you can edit for me if you want
spies4Zander (7:52:47 PM): It sucks to be in this position, especially because of Ralph
spies4madison (7:53:29 PM): yes.
spies4Zander (7:54:05 PM): It might be best to not say anything for the time being
spies4madison (7:54:21 PM): nothing? lol
spies4Zander (7:54:51 PM): I don't know, it seems like everytime anyone says something, Lloyd finds a reason for them to look suspicious, unless they go "You're right, I'm wrong, game over"
spies4madison (7:54:57 PM): fuck lloyd
spies4madison (7:54:58 PM): im tired of him
spies4madison (7:55:02 PM): who the hell is he anyway
spies4Zander (7:55:10 PM): haha
spies4madison (7:55:12 PM): im not normally so bitchy either
spies4Zander (7:55:16 PM): I know you're not
spies4madison (7:55:41 PM): i mean i want to respond
spies4madison (7:55:43 PM): i dont know
spies4madison (7:55:45 PM): what to do, zan.
spies4Zander (7:56:26 PM): Hmm...
spies4Zander (7:56:29 PM): I'm torn
spies4madison (7:56:40 PM): Hey. First I'll apologize that my internet has been shady and only working about 10% of the time for the past few days, I think it's fixed now.

THEN I'll get down to business.

When I came into that chat hell bent on voting martha, I did feel it was best, she was kinda all over the place, and in my opinion it was the best move - and i obviously was not the only one.

I totally did see merit in the voting the inactive theory, but I also knew there would be fallout from the first vote that would hopefully direct us toward a spy if martha wasn't one.
spies4madison (7:56:46 PM): thats what i'd typed so far to respond
spies4madison (7:56:50 PM): i just dont remember that many days ago
spies4madison (7:56:55 PM): and thats whats gonna bite me in the ass, so to speak.
spies4Zander (7:57:56 PM): I think it seems accurate, but Ralph is also claiming that he was the last of our family to jump on the Martha boat, which is not true
spies4madison (7:58:05 PM): no that's not true.
spies4madison (7:58:13 PM): i just told cain we voted at ralphs urging
spies4madison (7:58:18 PM): which at least is my recollection
spies4madison (7:58:23 PM): gordy was the most reluctant
spies4madison (7:58:36 PM): i live in the moment
spies4Zander (7:58:53 PM): I remember my chat with you guys in which I said martha was really suspicious
spies4Zander (7:58:57 PM): Gordy said Hannah was voting Martha
spies4Zander (7:59:02 PM): and we all agreed we should vote for Martha then
spies4Zander (7:59:09 PM): and Ralph kept arguing a numbers game to exile Martha
spies4madison (7:59:27 PM): ralph was most concerned with being on the right side of the numbers
spies4Zander (7:59:43 PM): Yes
spies4madison (8:00:06 PM): which is shady, a bit.
spies4madison (8:00:12 PM): and what im getting accused of doing
spies4madison (8:00:14 PM): sort of.
spies4madison (8:00:18 PM): no?
spies4Zander (8:00:26 PM): You know I think it's shady
spies4madison (8:00:40 PM): i just wanna kick and scream.
spies4madison (8:00:50 PM): and im the most chill person you'll ever meet.
spies4madison (8:01:17 PM): you have to be to deal with sick little children all day. and let me tell you zan, there is a stomach flu going around the preschools, it was packed today.
spies4madison (8:01:24 PM): at least im behind a desk.
spies4madison (8:01:25 PM): :-)
spies4Zander (8:01:36 PM): hah!
spies4madison (8:01:48 PM): hah!
spies4madison (8:01:51 PM): :-)
spies4madison (8:06:47 PM): so, yeah
spies4madison (8:06:50 PM): i dont know
spies4Zander (8:07:17 PM): ugh me neither
spies4madison (8:16:18 PM): sighs.
spies4Zander (8:17:10 PM): Freaking Lloyd
spies4Zander (8:17:20 PM): He signs on, drains information out of me, and then leaves lol
spies4madison (8:17:42 PM): i havent talked to him on IM at all
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spies4madison (12:13:00 PM): hey zan
spies4Zander (12:13:53 PM): Hey Maddy

spies4Zander (12:14:14 PM): How's it going?
spies4madison (12:15:04 PM): ehhhh!
spies4Zander (12:15:15 PM): I guess that's bad?
spies4Zander (12:15:16 PM): lol
spies4madison (12:15:18 PM): join the chat RIPsherri
spies4madison (12:15:23 PM): its fine
spies4Zander (12:15:23 PM): okie dokie...
spies4madison (12:15:24 PM): im just tired
spies4madison (12:15:35 PM): i was thinking i would be at the challenge, if i end up not going to my company picnic.
spies4Zander (12:15:54 PM): ah
spies4madison (12:16:00 PM): b/c to be honest
spies4madison (12:16:05 PM): ralph is a fucking idiot. generally speaking.
spies4madison (12:16:06 PM): i think.
spies4Zander (12:16:09 PM): Really?
spies4Zander (12:16:27 PM): I would prefer not winning at this point because I don't want any power placed in his hands. I just don't trust him anymore
spies4madison (12:18:15 PM): yeah true.
spies4madison (12:18:24 PM): (12:24:59 PM) spies4Adelaide: was it zander or gordy who convinced you to vote for martha?
(12:26:02 PM) spies4madison: well i was talking to cain about it yesterday
(12:26:19 PM) spies4madison: and gordy was the most reluctant
(12:26:29 PM) spies4madison: or the least 'happy' about it
spies4madison (12:18:36 PM): (12:26:33 PM) spies4madison: i think were his words
(12:26:40 PM) spies4madison: tlaking to cain made me think about it
(12:26:49 PM) spies4madison: i dont remember what happened an hour ago much less days ago
(12:27:05 PM) spies4madison: ralph wanted to vote for martha hardcore BUT
(12:27:09 PM) spies4madison: wanted to stay in the numbers
(12:27:30 PM) spies4madison: and we all decided to vote together
spies4madison (12:18:46 PM): so thats whats up with adelaide
spies4madison (12:18:50 PM): i just dont know anymore
spies4madison (12:18:55 PM): this is exhausting, zan.
spies4madison (12:19:05 PM): and if you're a spy you're a damn good one b/c you are the ONLY one i trust.
spies4Zander (12:19:15 PM): She's trying to frame me, because she trusts Ralph
spies4madison (12:19:24 PM): fuck ralph
spies4Zander (12:19:29 PM): Here's the DL - Lloyd thinks I accused him, which I didn't, and he told Adelaide apparently
spies4Zander (12:20:02 PM): Either way they will probably be targeting me for exile if nobody steps forward to admit that they accused Lloyd - which is a genius plan, use Zander as bait
spies4Zander (12:20:17 PM): I personally think that Martha accused Lloyd, because the person playing Martha is KNOWN for making accusations
spies4madison (12:20:45 PM): i dont know who anyone is, and im just happy as a little daisy that way.
spies4Zander (12:21:17 PM): Clearly I shouldn't have told anyone that I thought I knew who Lloyd was
spies4Zander (12:21:23 PM): because Ralph has manipulated that information
spies4madison (12:21:45 PM): (12:29:03 PM) spies4Adelaide: see im looking for who turned you and ralph onto martha
(12:29:16 PM) spies4madison: ralph wanted to the whole time
(12:29:19 PM) spies4madison: but was most concerned with numbers
spies4madison (12:21:58 PM): (12:29:20 PM) spies4Adelaide: and now is pinning the blame on you sayin what you did is suspicous
(12:29:29 PM) spies4Adelaide: but you just did what your family did
(12:29:39 PM) spies4madison: yeah
(12:29:45 PM) spies4Adelaide: i think lloyd might be right about ralph after all
spies4madison (12:22:11 PM): (12:29:45 PM) spies4madison: thats what we decided to do
(12:29:54 PM) spies4madison: what does lloyd think about ralph?
(12:31:25 PM) spies4Adelaide: hes sorta fighting with him
spies4madison (12:22:35 PM): (12:31:25 PM) spies4Adelaide: hes sorta fighting with him
(12:31:42 PM) spies4Adelaide: when i say "right about ralph" i mean i think that lloyd thinks hes an idiot
(12:31:56 PM) spies4madison: haha
(12:32:05 PM) spies4madison: my poor little family.
spies4madison (12:23:08 PM): help me here
spies4Zander (12:23:26 PM): I don't know what you should say!
spies4Zander (12:23:30 PM): i don't think Adelaide suspects you
spies4Zander (12:23:37 PM): Just tell her the truth, Ralph manipulated you
spies4madison (12:23:38 PM): haha
spies4madison (12:23:40 PM): i meant in the chat
spies4Zander (12:24:07 PM): Ralph was all for Martha until he thought Kiyoshi had the numbers, then he was all for Kiyoshi, and then he went back to being all for Martha when he found out she had the numbers
spies4madison (12:35:50 PM): wanna be my human ouiji board :-)?
spies4madison (12:35:51 PM): haha
spies4Zander (12:35:56 PM): haha!
spies4Zander (12:36:00 PM): bow chicka bow wow
spies4madison (12:36:20 PM): hahaha




Maddy is now my GIRL. Love her.

Basically we've decided to ditch Ralph, and now we're just going to be friends or something lol. I like my family because except for Ralph, none of us really focus on the game. Well I seem like I do, but I really don't lol.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (6:39:11 PM): Ugh what should I dooooooooooooooo
spies4Angelica (6:40:58 PM): Plausible deniability. He himself said that he expects many people know who he is. Any one of them could have done it. Since when is Ralph's word been credible?
spies4Zander (6:41:21 PM): But he specifically said he thinks Ralph or myself are spies
spies4Zander (6:41:29 PM): I could just say I was framed...
spies4Zander (6:41:33 PM): So I think we need to Imprison him
spies4Angelica (6:42:21 PM): What did he mean when he said 'I have caught him in quite a few lies already.'?
spies4Zander (6:42:21 PM): I hate it because we could do a more strategic Imprisonment, but Ralph basically screwed me over. Imprisoning Lloyd will make Ralph suspicious of me, and imprisoning anyone else will make them both come after me
spies4Zander (6:42:43 PM): with as swayable as Ralph is, I'd prefer to get Lloyd out. Also, if I go this round, we have a better chance of winning with Lloyd not in the game anyway
spies4Zander (6:42:55 PM): When who said that?
spies4Angelica (6:43:01 PM): Lloyd in his post.
spies4Zander (6:43:15 PM): f***
spies4Angelica (6:43:37 PM): You didn't know?
spies4Zander (6:43:47 PM): Where did he post it?!
spies4Angelica (6:44:48 PM): In the Burg, his fourth part in 'Accusations'
spies4Zander (6:45:53 PM): Hmm...
spies4Zander (6:46:06 PM): The only "lie" he caught me in was that I didn't tell Ralph and Gordy his real identity
spies4Zander (6:46:09 PM): but I actually forgot that I did
spies4Zander (6:46:16 PM): and then I forwarded him the chat log anyway
spies4Angelica (6:46:40 PM): Ok, that's not SOO bad.
spies4Angelica (6:46:55 PM): Think...
spies4Zander (6:47:01 PM): The chat incriminates Ralph and Gordy more than myself
spies4Zander (6:47:51 PM): They begged me to tell...
spies4Zander (6:47:58 PM): and so I did, and then they got really excited about it
spies4Angelica (6:48:49 PM): They way I see it, there's more than one person who could have accused him. There's no solid evidence that I can see that points to you. It could very well have been Ralph or Gordy.
spies4Angelica (6:49:34 PM): It just seems to be more of his random yelling, which I think people will get tired of hearing after a while, expecially given the spaz attack he had at the Exile.
spies4Zander (6:52:12 PM): I told Ralph and Gordy post-exile, but it doesn' tmatter. I tried to tell him that it was Martha, since David always accuses
spies4Zander (6:52:26 PM): So what should we do? Cause I think it's wise to imprison him
spies4Zander (6:53:04 PM): if Kip and Singe suspect none of us, it could be smart to keep them around
spies4Angelica (6:53:48 PM): As far as I know they don't. But Kip doesn't talk and Singe doesn't talk much.
spies4Zander (6:54:55 PM): I think Singe likes me...
spies4Zander (6:55:01 PM): I don't know I'm just afraid of Lloyd in this next exile
spies4Zander (6:55:05 PM): if he pushes so hard for me I could be gone
spies4Zander (6:55:09 PM): but I think he's going for Madison first
spies4Zander (6:55:15 PM): he basically pressured me into Not imprisoning him
spies4Zander (6:55:20 PM): so it could be wisest to call his bluff and do it
spies4Angelica (6:56:36 PM): Gimmie 5 minutes to process this. brb
spies4Zander (6:56:44 PM): ok
spies4Angelica (7:04:49 PM): Ok. I think Lloyd it's going to have to be. Worst case scenerio he yells out your identity before he leaves. But that only bites us if people suspect you in the first place, which they seem not to right now.
spies4Zander (7:06:57 PM): Exactly...
spies4Zander (7:07:00 PM): urgh FUCKING RALPH
spies4Angelica (7:07:25 PM): Most people have stopped listening to him anyhow. Why is Lloyd now?
spies4Zander (7:08:24 PM): Why is Lloyd now what?
spies4Angelica (7:08:37 PM): Listening to Ralph
spies4Zander (7:08:51 PM): I honestly don't know
spies4Zander (7:08:57 PM): I don't believe he thinks Ralph is 100% citizen either
spies4Angelica (7:17:42 PM): I changed my vote, but I have to leave soon. So I left the stipulation that if you guys change your minds I support it.
spies4Zander (7:18:04 PM): Okay, thanks...
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Thanks At least I can rely on one person to tell me to stop messing up. Angelica will for sure carry this for the spies.

[Zander]

spies4Gordy (2:08:08 PM): now you see Ralph, now you don't
spies4Zander (2:08:15 PM): I am SO ANGRY
spies4Zander (2:08:25 PM): Like, why. That's just what I don't understand
spies4Zander (2:08:41 PM): I'm trying so hard to get us information about people and suspiciousness
spies4Gordy (2:08:43 PM): Ralph's a psycho
spies4Zander (2:08:48 PM): and then he just ran and told Lloyd that I knew who he was?
spies4Zander (2:08:58 PM): So I went from someone Lloyd could listen to, to Lloyd's number 2/3 suspect
spies4Gordy (2:09:04 PM): why do you think i set up a trap for Ralph?
spies4Zander (2:09:10 PM): You set up a trap?
spies4Gordy (2:10:04 PM): to test his trust. I told him something that may effect the game
spies4Zander (2:10:11 PM): I just feel so stupid now for even wanting to be in his family! Apparently he asked like 4 people for an alliance before the game even started, and that's why he's running around with this information - to turn the people he's separately allies with against each other, and probably protect himself through the whole game
spies4Zander (2:10:55 PM): I figured we could at least trust each other with information, but no, and now Lloyd definitely knows my identity and will probably spread it around
spies4Gordy (2:11:04 PM): What's your ID then? I'm curious
spies4Zander (2:11:16 PM): Lol, no, I'm not blatantly telling anyone
spies4Gordy (2:11:37 PM): but I'll give you a back rub in return...
spies4Gordy (2:12:01 PM): I told Ralph something that risks me imprisoned last night. If I am, Ralph is the rat
spies4Gordy (2:12:07 PM): *me being
spies4Gordy (2:12:40 PM): and you know what? he now thinks I'm a girl for some reason
spies4Gordy (2:21:50 PM): I can't believe you forwarded Lloyd one of our private logs.
spies4Zander (2:24:42 PM): Sorry, but I was highly sure that Ralph would, and I don't think Lloyd actually cares at this point
spies4Zander (2:25:04 PM): If I didn't forward it, I was going to get his vote at exile and various accusations
spies4Gordy (2:25:43 PM): he says he knows your ID which blows
spies4Zander (2:25:51 PM): Ya, I know
spies4Zander (2:25:57 PM): He was the one who accused me, he admitted it
spies4Gordy (2:26:19 PM): I don't think you'll be exiled buddy
spies4Zander (2:26:41 PM): I hope not, but if Ralph or Lloyd are spies then there's a chance I could be Imprisoned too
spies4Gordy (2:46:56 PM):

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spies4Gordy (7:59:53 PM): friday afternoon Zander love <33333
spies4Zander (8:00:04 PM): Thanks, I'm glad someone has it
spies4Gordy (8:01:55 PM): has what, dare I ask?
spies4Gordy (8:02:05 PM): a hidden immunity idol?
spies4Zander (8:02:20 PM): lmao
spies4Zander (8:02:22 PM): love for me
spies4Gordy (8:03:10 PM): I love everyone
spies4Gordy (8:03:26 PM): Madison, Angelica (my wife), Cain, Ralph, Hannah, Sam...
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spies4Gordy (2:00:18 AM): are you ever not afk?
spies4Zander (2:04:36 AM): Sorry
spies4Zander (2:04:37 AM): haha
spies4Gordy (2:04:48 AM): you're a spy. SPY!!!
spies4Gordy (2:05:06 AM): Mafia scum!
spies4Zander (2:05:26 AM): Well then haha
spies4Gordy (2:05:37 AM): I hope you get eaten by a bear!
spies4Zander (2:05:44 AM): You're so kind lol
spies4Gordy (2:06:13 AM): and you're a spy. may your children be born with bleeding gums
spies4Gordy (2:06:37 AM): omg that felt good
spies4Zander (2:06:38 AM): Dear God Gordy, this is pretty harsh lol.
spies4Gordy (2:07:04 AM): sorry I had to release some pent up anger in my system haha. No offense, love?
spies4Zander (2:09:46 AM): Um, sure lol
spies4Zander (2:09:54 AM): Sorry I'm slightly drunk right now
spies4Zander (2:10:03 AM): So I may not even remember what you said right now lol
spies4Gordy (2:10:28 AM): you didn't even invite me to go out for a drink with you? oh burn
spies4Zander (2:10:39 AM): But I would hope that you trust me more than that and like me more than that than to call me a spy and want me eaten by a bear lol
spies4Zander (2:10:47 AM): Sorry i was too busy being afk lol
spies4Zander (2:12:39 AM): But I guess you don't
spies4Gordy (2:14:38 AM): I love ya sweety. If only you weren't so shady
spies4Gordy (2:15:50 AM): haha kidding, kidding. What did I deserve to have you as my little brother?
spies4Zander (2:16:01 AM): It happens, I guess... But you can blame Ralph for making me seem shady at all in the first place
spies4Zander (2:16:32 AM): Lol Gordy I never know when you're kidding or not
spies4Gordy (2:18:19 AM): I haven't had coffee since Friday morning. I am shaking and all the coffe shops in town are closed
spies4Gordy (2:18:44 AM): I won't blame anyone. You are a rel sweetheart
spies4Zander (2:18:47 AM): So are you going through caffeine withdrawal? lol
spies4Gordy (2:18:55 AM): but I just love messing with your head sometimes because you are just too easy
spies4Zander (2:19:08 AM): Because I want to believe everyone all the time lol
spies4Gordy (2:19:08 AM): I think so. I desperatly need coffee right now
spies4Zander (2:19:18 AM): I guess I just take everything too seriously
spies4Zander (2:19:29 AM): even if I am a little drunk that makes sense, I should stop being so naive
spies4Gordy (2:21:37 AM): now if only you were talking formally like you did on day one we'd be in business
spies4Zander (2:22:08 AM): Haha!
spies4Gordy (2:22:41 AM): I'll buy you a set of Uno cards for your birthday, buddy
spies4Zander (2:22:49 AM): Uno?
spies4Zander (2:23:06 AM): Are you sure you're not drunk too?
spies4Gordy (2:23:25 AM): Hon, who needs beer when you can go apeshit for coffee
spies4Gordy (2:23:38 AM): it is my crack. the same as my smoking habit haha
spies4Zander (2:23:38 AM): but you haven't found any I thought
spies4Zander (2:23:42 AM): aha
spies4Gordy (2:24:12 AM): I might as well drop dead. I'm craving for some of that good shit
spies4Gordy (2:24:28 AM): so when will you talk like the nice handsome gentleman again hmm?
spies4Zander (2:27:09 AM): Ah, is that what has you concerned lol
spies4Zander (2:27:26 AM): it's what I do on the first day of almost every game. Then once I get to know people and loosen up, I generally stop being so formal.
spies4Gordy (2:27:44 AM): but, but, but... I love when you drove me crazy. Please...
spies4Zander (2:27:47 AM): It's my way of straying from character to cast some suspicion on myself to stay safe from things like Imprisonments, but at the same time it's really hard to always be really really formal
spies4Zander (2:27:52 AM): Lol sorry bud!
spies4Zander (2:27:58 AM): Would you prefer I talk like it just to you?
spies4Gordy (2:28:12 AM): oh yes sir. no problem sir.
spies4Zander (2:28:23 AM): My good friend, Gordy. How are you doing this fine evening?
spies4Gordy (2:28:47 AM): this is getting homoerotic haha
spies4Zander (2:28:56 AM): Haha, it is. I love how we can't have ANY serious conversations lol
spies4Zander (2:29:10 AM): It's honestly at least making the game fun
spies4Gordy (2:29:30 AM): I can't help it! This is like a really bad gay porno
spies4Zander (2:29:40 AM): Even if you're a spy I hope you stick around man, you just make the game more enjoyable
spies4Zander (2:29:45 AM): Even if it is homoerotic lol
spies4Gordy (2:30:19 AM): After I'm done with Cain and divorce my wife Angelica, then we can make some sweet, sweet muffins and brownies together
spies4Zander (2:30:27 AM): hahaha
spies4Zander (2:30:35 AM): COFFEE MUFFINS!
spies4Gordy (2:30:39 AM): you must have some experience flirting. You sassy slut, you!
spies4Gordy (2:30:49 AM): omg good plan Zander
spies4Zander (2:31:30 AM): Haha, leave those two and come to me! I have all the coffee mwahahah!
spies4Gordy (2:32:15 AM): don't tempt me you bastard!
spies4Gordy (2:32:23 AM): although I like it...
spies4Zander (2:32:38 AM): Lol
spies4Zander (2:32:48 AM): maybe I could just be your friend who you have to visit when your wife is in bed
spies4Zander (2:32:55 AM): and we sit and drink coffee and smoke cigars and act all formal
spies4Gordy (2:33:13 AM): Brokeback Mountain 2.0. Yossi and Jagger 2.0
spies4Gordy (2:33:34 AM): actually I'm trying to quit smoking haha
spies4Zander (2:34:10 AM): But they're cigars!
spies4Gordy (2:34:24 AM): aren't they the same thing?
spies4Zander (2:34:30 AM): cigars and cigarettes?
spies4Zander (2:34:34 AM): You don't inhale cigars
spies4Zander (2:34:43 AM): You're not fancy at all, you whore!
spies4Gordy (2:35:05 AM): on the plus side I don't have STDs.
spies4Gordy (2:35:10 AM): ZING!
spies4Zander (2:35:17 AM): Anyway, I love you like a gay prostitute but I have to get going to bed before I die at the computer
spies4Zander (2:35:19 AM): hahaha!
spies4Zander (2:35:24 AM): Night Gordy
spies4Gordy (2:35:28 AM): night budd
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LOL GORDY, what are you doing? Are you actually focusing on the game? lol. I lied about being drunk so hopefully he'll trust me since he thinks I was like "If I was a spy I'd tell you dur dur"

[Zander]

spies4Singe (12:16:20 PM): and yeah, everyone answering tough questions is the best way to actually learn something
spies4Zander (12:17:14 PM): You just have to be careful with when we share information
spies4Angelica (12:17:33 PM): Lol Madison, they're going up faster than I can read them!
spies4Singe (12:19:39 PM): you don't have to answer them all
spies4Singe (12:19:50 PM): but some are pretty easy answers
spies4Zander (12:20:29 PM): which tough questions? lol
spies4Singe (12:20:50 PM): well, who's the spy in your family, Z?
spies4Singe (12:21:02 PM): or is that an easy one?
spies4kip (12:21:23 PM): How do you know there is a spy in Zander's family?
spies4Angelica (12:21:34 PM): It's a rhetorical question, Kip.
spies4Singe (12:21:35 PM): it's a hypothetical
spies4Zander (12:21:37 PM): aha
spies4Angelica (12:21:43 PM): Yeah, that's what I ment
spies4Zander (12:21:48 PM): Well... A lot of people are thinking Madison is a spy, but I personally don't
spies4Zander (12:21:52 PM): I think she's being used as a setup
spies4Singe (12:21:53 PM): why?
spies4Singe (12:21:56 PM): ah
spies4Angelica (12:21:56 PM): Not rhetorical. Dubm me.
spies4Zander (12:22:01 PM): I don't, it's something she said that was manipulated
spies4Zander (12:22:13 PM): Gordy is very friendly and loyal to me, but not serious, and that could be an indicator of spyness
spies4Zander (12:22:40 PM): But if I chose someone it would probably be Ralph because of what he's done in the past couple of days - he seems very much out for his own benefit and I don't know his motivation for things
spies4Zander (12:22:50 PM): Apparently he's aligned with about half of the cast
spies4madison (12:23:03 PM): Anyone want to hear what I have to say?
spies4madison (12:23:33 PM): although speaking up in chats with my opinion seems to get me accused of being spy like.
spies4Zander (12:23:44 PM): *Agreed*
spies4Adelaide (12:24:13 PM): yes im burgeoning on ralph
spies4Adelaide (12:24:16 PM): omg is that even a word?
spies4Zander (12:24:20 PM): haha!
spies4Zander (12:24:22 PM): It may be
spies4Angelica (12:24:22 PM): It is now.
spies4Adelaide (12:24:27 PM): ralph has shot up my suspicion charts
spies4madison (12:24:27 PM): i dont even know what it means haha
spies4Zander (12:24:30 PM): Man, my stomach is burgeoning
spies4madison (12:24:31 PM): well listen
spies4Adelaide (12:24:34 PM): lol
spies4Singe (12:24:49 PM): let's hear it maddy
spies4Zander (12:24:54 PM): Anyone who takes what I say in absolute confidence and spreads it around to make me look suspicious when it isn't suspicious in the first place, is not someone I can trust
spies4madison (12:25:02 PM): in case anyone wants to hear my story instead of what lloyd who ive never talked to has to say, that is.
spies4madison (12:25:04 PM): basically
spies4madison (12:25:16 PM): ralph was all for voting martha all day.
spies4Zander (12:25:20 PM): He left out everything from that series of chats that made him look like a spy, and if he wanted to tell the truth then clearly that's not hwat he was doing
spies4madison (12:25:21 PM): but
spies4Zander (12:25:35 PM): *what
spies4madison (12:25:49 PM): when it looked like kioshi was going to be 'in the majority' he wanted to vote K, then back to M. and so on.
spies4Singe (12:25:55 PM): totally
spies4madison (12:25:59 PM): my point in the chat, which im sure you all have read, is a good point.
spies4Singe (12:26:03 PM): ralph asked me ten times who i was voting for
spies4madison (12:26:08 PM): and i did understand what lloyd had to say
spies4madison (12:26:11 PM): in that other chat
spies4madison (12:26:34 PM): but when it came down to it, i voted with my family b/c I thought martha was a spy. plain and simple.
spies4Zander (12:26:38 PM): Lloyd made sense, but can I truly regret voting for Martha when she contradicted herself SO MUCH?
spies4Angelica (12:26:41 PM): Ralph's goal was to be in the majority. He was seriously pushing Abrams until re realzied he had no backing, then was like 'Okay, I'll vote Kiyoshi I guess.'
spies4Zander (12:26:49 PM): I'm sad she wasn't a spy but I had clear reason and proof
spies4Adelaide (12:27:06 PM): and it turns out RALPH is the reason that his family changed gordy and madison into martha voters.
spies4Adelaide (12:27:06 PM): zander wanted to vote for her on his own accord, he was the only one who gave me a reason for voting martha taht didnt involve the family.
spies4Zander (12:27:20 PM): That is truth
spies4Zander (12:27:30 PM): And I didn't push anyone in my family to vote for her
spies4Zander (12:27:33 PM): I told them why I was voting for her
spies4kip (12:27:36 PM): I think, for the record, that Martha was a good voting choice for the city
spies4Singe (12:27:41 PM): is ralph a natural follower or is he trying to manipulate people's opinions of him?
spies4Zander (12:27:49 PM): Ralph is NOT a followe
spies4Zander (12:27:52 PM): *follower
spies4Adelaide (12:27:55 PM): in hindsight she was a good choice since she was such a bad citizen
spies4madison (12:28:01 PM): yeah, i agree.
spies4Zander (12:28:02 PM): If anything Ralph up until two days ago was the leader of our family
spies4Singe (12:28:05 PM): wow
spies4Angelica (12:28:10 PM): Really?
spies4madison (12:28:12 PM): now we're stuck and we need to get it together
spies4madison (12:28:13 PM): yes
spies4Zander (12:28:14 PM): if he seems like a follower to you, he isn't. I swear this to you
spies4Singe (12:28:19 PM): so he pushes choices but then follows the majority for cover?
spies4Zander (12:28:29 PM): He pools information from all over the place
spies4madison (12:28:30 PM): YES.
spies4Zander (12:28:35 PM): then tells us what he thinks we should do
spies4Adelaide (12:28:38 PM): i was suspcious of zander and gordy for a while there now i see im totally wrong its RALPH RALPH RALPH
spies4Zander (12:28:41 PM): and this is how he's been from day one
spies4madison (12:29:00 PM): hey singe, i saw you were at the moment looking at gordy - i was just wondering why?
spies4Zander (12:29:03 PM): I don't even know if he's a spy, he just PISSES ME OFF
spies4Singe (12:29:15 PM): gordy--read his last 30 posts
spies4Singe (12:29:28 PM): i think ONE had anything to do with spycatching
spies4madison (12:29:30 PM): yeah i have some catching up to do since i got internet back yesterday.
spies4Zander (12:29:31 PM): No matter his alignment, his playing style will not help the citizens win at all!
spies4Angelica (12:29:41 PM): Gordy is rather ADD at times, but when he focuses he can get down to business.
spies4Singe (12:29:48 PM): i havent seen that side of him yet
spies4Zander (12:30:02 PM): Gordy certainly hasn't been helpful to me but he does make the game more enjoyable to me
spies4Adelaide (12:30:13 PM): i love his nicknames
spies4Zander (12:30:15 PM): I told him last night "Even if you are a spy, I hope you stay around for a little while cause you make the game more fun"
spies4Singe (12:30:16 PM): yeah he's a nice guy
spies4Angelica (12:30:17 PM): He's one of the people I talk to more, so I've seen just about all sides of him. LOL
spies4madison (12:30:29 PM): yeah i enjoy talking to him a lot
spies4Singe (12:30:29 PM): but nice =/= cit
spies4Adelaide (12:30:33 PM): guys i have to go but this has been a revolutionary topic!
spies4Zander (12:30:35 PM): true...
spies4Singe (12:30:37 PM): bye ades
spies4Angelica (12:30:41 PM): It should, damnit! Would make the game so much easier. Haha!
spies4Zander (12:30:45 PM): See ya Adelaide
spies4madison (12:30:46 PM): bye adelaide!
spies4Angelica (12:30:46 PM): Bye Ady!
spies4Adelaide (12:30:54 PM): people of the burg talking getting along, but little do they know that i have an stf
spies4Adelaide (12:30:56 PM): *sti
(12:31:05 PM) spies4Adelaide has left the room.
spies4Angelica (12:31:08 PM): A what?
spies4madison (12:31:08 PM): hahaha
spies4Zander (12:31:12 PM): an std?
spies4madison (12:31:14 PM): =STD
spies4Singe (12:31:15 PM): lol
spies4madison (12:31:15 PM): yes
spies4Zander (12:31:16 PM): LMAO!
spies4Zander (12:31:18 PM): HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
spies4Singe (12:31:25 PM): good to know
spies4Zander (12:31:27 PM): What?!
spies4Angelica (12:31:29 PM): People in this town are going MAD I tell you!
spies4Singe (12:31:36 PM): is the Impris tonight?
spies4Zander (12:31:39 PM): Is that what she meant in the thread where she said she had aids?
spies4kip (12:31:48 PM): spies4Angelica: People in this town are going MAD I tell you!QFT
spies4Zander (12:31:50 PM): Someone kept telling me it was last night, but I don't remember who
spies4Zander (12:32:05 PM): But apparently it wasn't lol
spies4Singe (12:32:15 PM): if you get imprisoned, what message do you want passed along?
spies4Singe (12:32:24 PM): that you might not be able to type after the fact?
spies4Zander (12:32:46 PM): Mine would be fairly long
spies4Angelica (12:32:50 PM): Singe, the human Ouija board
spies4Singe (12:32:55 PM): mine would be: "They killed me for trying to stir up more chatter, so please carry the torch and get people talking more."
spies4madison (12:33:08 PM): haha singe, i like that.
spies4Singe (12:33:17 PM): this town's been far too quiet
spies4kip (12:33:22 PM): Well, I think everyone should write a message to 3 different people
spies4kip (12:33:29 PM): under strictest confidence
spies4Zander (12:33:34 PM): Stop trusting Ralph, he is playing everybody. I trust Madison, Singe, Masaki, and Lloyd to continue helping the citizens.
spies4kip (12:33:39 PM): and tell them to reveal it if they die
spies4Singe (12:33:43 PM): solid idea
spies4Zander (12:33:43 PM): And also, DO NOT SIMPLY FOLLOW THE MAJORITY
spies4madison (12:33:45 PM): to be honest, i can't think of 3 people i'd send anything to
spies4Zander (12:33:50 PM): So if I do get imprisoned, tell people that lol
spies4madison (12:33:59 PM): or what i'd say
spies4madison (12:34:04 PM): i mean, ive said my piece
spies4madison (12:34:10 PM): so far.
spies4Singe (12:34:23 PM): (Ang, you've just given me my hallowween costume for this year!
spies4Zander (12:34:24 PM): But dying messages are always so much more fun
spies4Zander (12:34:34 PM): a ouija board?
spies4Singe (12:34:37 PM): totally
spies4Zander (12:34:38 PM): Won't that be hard to wear haha
spies4Angelica (12:34:45 PM): Haha Singe! That sounds uncomfortable.
spies4madison (12:34:48 PM): what should i be for halloween?
spies4Singe (12:34:59 PM): "ladies, put your hands on me i will communicate with you"
spies4Singe (12:35:01 PM): lol
spies4Zander (12:35:07 PM): aha!
spies4Angelica (12:35:12 PM): Hahaha!
spies4madison (12:35:12 PM): hahaha
spies4Zander (12:35:22 PM): Madison you would look sexy as catwoman or something like that
spies4madison (12:35:24 PM): ill put my hands on the new damon.
spies4madison (12:35:27 PM): ohhh yes!
spies4madison (12:35:37 PM): catwoman would be good
spies4Singe (12:35:40 PM): catwoman is NEVER a bad choice
spies4Zander (12:35:46 PM): My family - Hottest in the burg
spies4Angelica (12:36:00 PM): Well, depends on who's wearing the costume I guess.
spies4Singe (12:36:04 PM): er
spies4Singe (12:36:07 PM): chris farley
spies4Singe (12:36:10 PM): yeah you're right
spies4madison (12:36:10 PM): not so hot
spies4madison (12:36:12 PM): haha
spies4Zander (12:36:18 PM): Chris Farley is the hottest in the burg??
spies4Angelica (12:36:23 PM): LMAO
spies4Zander (12:36:29 PM): Oh woops lol
spies4Singe (12:36:37 PM): i will help you communicate with the ghost of chris farley
spies4Zander (12:36:43 PM): I keep forgetting he's dead
spies4Angelica (12:37:00 PM): I keep forgetting he was alive.
spies4Singe (12:37:02 PM): he's doing lines with Sherri
spies4Singe (12:37:05 PM): and cupcakes
spies4Zander (12:37:07 PM): You know Singe, if you were a Ouija board, I could help it look like you're actually communicating with him lol
spies4Zander (12:37:14 PM): He's doing lines of cupcakes
spies4Angelica (12:37:16 PM): I never got my lime cupcake!!!
spies4Singe (12:37:17 PM): lol
spies4Zander (12:37:23 PM): I got my passion fruit
spies4Singe (12:37:30 PM): *snorts sprinkles*
spies4madison (12:37:35 PM): i just like chocolate.
spies4Angelica (12:38:02 PM): I've heard of sugar highs, but that's downright rediculous!
spies4Zander (12:38:12 PM): don't those burn?
spies4Singe (12:39:10 PM): and oh shit
spies4Singe (12:39:19 PM): did you see damon's reason for leaving
spies4Angelica (12:39:19 PM): How exactly did we reach this point again? Haha!
spies4Singe (12:39:31 PM): "Damon said he didn't want to play anymore, he just didn't get into things. He's been gone for awhile, so I found a replacement."
spies4Singe (12:39:46 PM): what are the odds a spy "just wouldnt get into things"
spies4Zander (12:40:24 PM): So we can basically assume that his replacement is a citizen
spies4madison (12:40:24 PM): slim, i imagine.
spies4Singe (12:40:26 PM): i wouldnt bet my life on it, but I imagine he's a Cit
spies4Zander (12:41:39 PM): Can I ask a general question while I'm here? lol
spies4Singe (12:41:43 PM): sure
spies4kip (12:41:50 PM): Yes
spies4Zander (12:41:54 PM): Has anyone actually talked to Cain beyond the lines of "Hey, what's up, not much", then 20 minutes of silence?
spies4Singe (12:41:57 PM): nope
spies4Singe (12:42:03 PM): not that i recall
spies4kip (12:42:07 PM): I haven't even done that
spies4madison (12:42:07 PM): he asked me about what lloyd said about me yesterday
spies4madison (12:42:14 PM): but, thats it
spies4Zander (12:42:19 PM): Cause I'm wondering what he's actually like. Some people seem to trust him so I was wondering if he's not just some AIMBot lol
spies4madison (12:42:20 PM): that lasted... 10 minutes max i think
spies4madison (12:42:23 PM): haha
spies4Singe (12:42:31 PM): We need to drag him into a room
spies4Singe (12:42:35 PM): and throw darts at hgim
spies4Zander (12:42:38 PM): I'll cuff him
spies4Zander (12:42:54 PM): Using my mind! Mwahaha!
spies4madison (12:42:55 PM): zander, you can cuff me anytime.
spies4Zander (12:42:58 PM): or something?
spies4Singe (12:42:59 PM): That's hot
spies4Zander (12:43:00 PM): Bow chicka bow wow!
spies4Zander (12:43:09 PM): Especially if you're wearing that catwoman outfit
spies4Singe (12:43:22 PM): You figure Zander needs a steady stream of girls to cut in half
spies4Singe (12:43:24 PM): make disappear
spies4Singe (12:43:26 PM): etc etc
spies4madison (12:43:28 PM): haha
spies4Zander (12:43:36 PM): Beverly was begging to be my assistant day one
spies4Zander (12:43:45 PM): I'll never forget her flexibility claim
spies4Zander (12:43:54 PM): But I need someone that won't scare my audience off
spies4Singe (12:43:54 PM): it's not so cool when the girl in the box is screaming bloody murder the whole time
spies4Singe (12:43:57 PM): yeah
spies4Singe (12:44:02 PM): OMG THIS BOX SMELLS LIKE ASS
spies4Zander (12:44:06 PM): HAH!
spies4Singe (12:44:07 PM): WHAT BITCH WAS IN HERE BEFORE ME
spies4madison (12:44:16 PM): hahahahah
spies4Singe (12:44:17 PM): ILL KILL HER
spies4Singe (12:44:29 PM): HEY ZANDER GOT ANY GUM
spies4Singe (12:44:38 PM): *facepalm*
spies4Zander (12:45:35 PM): *Chomp chomp* THIS NEXT *CHOMP* TRICK THAT ZAN*CHOMP*DER IS GONNA DO*CHOMP* IS MY FAVORITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies4Singe (12:45:46 PM): so not hot
spies4Zander (12:45:57 PM): So not professional
(12:46:26 PM) spies4Leon has entered the room.
spies4Singe (12:46:33 PM): mornin Leon
spies4Leon (12:46:35 PM): Heya Guys
spies4Zander (12:46:36 PM): So why is Adelaide advertising that she has aids?
spies4Zander (12:46:42 PM): Is it some hidden thing?
spies4Singe (12:46:49 PM): it's bizarre lol i dunn
spies4Singe (12:46:51 PM): o
spies4Zander (12:47:01 PM): I feel like it could be some type of ability or something lol
spies4Zander (12:47:30 PM): "You are the Carrier. You host multiple diseases and your goal is to infect the entire cast. You are a neutral role. Once you have done this, you win the game!"
spies4Singe (12:47:34 PM): yeesh
spies4Angelica (12:47:42 PM): Sorry, phone call. I'm back.
spies4Singe (12:47:43 PM): *dons body condom*
spies4Angelica (12:48:21 PM): And just in time to catch Singe's new attire...
spies4Zander (12:48:21 PM): luckily I learned how to make these giant bubbles that keep everything out, aaaaaand.... HAaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!
spies4Singe (12:48:25 PM): Leon, think Jeremiah's a spy?
spies4Zander (12:48:27 PM): So now everyone but Singe is in a bubble
spies4Singe (12:48:30 PM): I'm torn.
spies4madison (12:48:33 PM): wait im not in a bubble
spies4madison (12:48:35 PM): whats a bubble?
spies4Zander (12:48:38 PM): And now singe is just in a body condom
spies4madison (12:48:41 PM): hahahaha
spies4Singe (12:48:42 PM): oh wow i'd love to be in a bubble
spies4Zander (12:48:54 PM): Sorry buddy, but that's the way the cookie crumbles
spies4Angelica (12:48:59 PM): I'd get claustraphobic.
spies4Singe (12:49:08 PM): I'll trade you um
spies4Singe (12:49:14 PM): *checks pockets*
spies4Zander (12:49:15 PM): Clearly that's how I perform magic... "HAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" lol
spies4Zander (12:49:30 PM): Trade her the body condom
spies4Singe (12:49:33 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (12:49:35 PM): Who knows what wild adventures Angelica goes on
spies4Angelica (12:49:39 PM): A used condom? Ewwwww
spies4Singe (12:49:48 PM): Used body condom
spies4Angelica (12:49:53 PM): Used is used.
spies4Singe (12:49:55 PM): It actually smells like Drakkar
spies4Zander (12:49:56 PM): It was only used by his entire body, Angelica. It's NOT a big deal
spies4Singe (12:50:05 PM): and foamy latte
spies4Zander (12:50:24 PM): mmm, latte.
spies4Angelica (12:50:24 PM): Haha
spies4Zander (12:50:32 PM): Don't tell Gordy, he's been dying for some coffee apparently
spies4Singe (12:50:52 PM): there's guaranteed to be a starbucks less than a half mile away
spies4Singe (12:50:58 PM): no matter where he is
spies4Angelica (12:51:03 PM): How? He's a Barista, and I own a freakin' Coffee Shop, how has he NOT had coffee?
spies4Singe (12:51:08 PM): middle of the atlantic? make a right, quick left
spies4Singe (12:51:17 PM): Starbucks.
spies4Angelica (12:51:22 PM): And Walgreens
spies4Singe (12:51:25 PM): yes
spies4Leon (12:51:27 PM): sorry, lol had to get the laundry real quick
spies4Leon (12:51:48 PM): About Jeremiah though, im not sure, I think it could be possible
spies4Singe (12:51:52 PM): we're tryin to hook gordy up with some coffee here
spies4Zander (12:52:22 PM): Um, presto?
spies4Singe (12:52:23 PM): Jeremiah seems a little too sure of himself
spies4Angelica (12:52:24 PM): When he needs his fix, he can come to me. I'll be his sugar mama. Coffee mama, whatever.
spies4Zander (12:52:25 PM): Coffee?
spies4Angelica (12:52:30 PM): Haha Zander!
spies4Zander (12:52:35 PM): He could have just asked
spies4Singe (12:52:38 PM): none of you sound the least bit sure about anything
spies4Singe (12:52:42 PM): which is normal to me
spies4Zander (12:52:44 PM): Should we be?
spies4Angelica (12:52:51 PM): Jeremiah is pretty high on my list to be honest.
spies4Zander (12:52:52 PM): ah, nevermind, I missed your Jeremiah sentence
spies4Zander (12:53:00 PM): I haven't talked to him in a full week
spies4Zander (12:53:05 PM): ... I think...
spies4Zander (12:53:09 PM): it feels like a week at least, haha
spies4Angelica (12:53:14 PM): He has shut up post his Exile explosion.
spies4Singe (12:53:21 PM): interesting
spies4Singe (12:53:32 PM): afraid of the heat?
spies4Zander (12:53:42 PM): A LOT of people did that though
spies4Angelica (12:53:45 PM): I don't know why, Lloyd and Ady seem to be embracing it.
spies4Zander (12:53:51 PM): right after their explosions they either disappeared or toned down a lot
spies4Angelica (12:54:09 PM): Some people turned up though: Naomi, Cain.
spies4Angelica (12:54:17 PM): Well, kind of Cain.
spies4Singe (12:54:19 PM): naomi went on fire
spies4Angelica (12:54:22 PM): He comes and goes.
spies4Singe (12:54:24 PM): about the whole Plan thing
spies4Zander (12:54:29 PM): As soon as Adelaide talked to me, she instantly calmed down because I actually had proof positive for voting Martha
spies4Zander (12:54:37 PM): And I basically reamed her out for saying I had no common sense
spies4Angelica (12:54:50 PM): Haha!
spies4Singe (12:54:52 PM): is adelaide a follower?
spies4Zander (12:55:02 PM): I think Naomi's idea is good, but if the majority was for someone I trust, no way would I vote for them. It's just nonsensical
spies4Angelica (12:55:04 PM): I can't tell.
spies4Zander (12:55:24 PM): I don't think Adelaide voted for Kiyoshi because her heart told her to, no
spies4Zander (12:55:53 PM): But whether she is a mastermind or a "pawn", is questionable... I'd lean more toward the latter
spies4Singe (12:56:47 PM): Naomi actually finds me suspicious for going against the plan
spies4Singe (12:56:51 PM): I find that fascinating
spies4Singe (12:57:05 PM): It's not THAT good a plan
spies4kip (12:57:09 PM): What plan?
spies4Singe (12:57:14 PM): the "prevote"
spies4Zander (12:57:24 PM): It's a plan better reserved for later in the game - I think leon hit the nail on the head with that statement
spies4kip (12:57:25 PM): I don't think Adelaide is a follower... she is supposed to post something tomorrow
spies4Singe (12:57:27 PM): and then everyone votes for the prevote winner at Exile
spies4Angelica (12:57:28 PM): We all vote once, and whoever wins, EVERYONE votes for.
spies4Angelica (12:57:50 PM): I'm less than impressed with the idea.
spies4kip (12:57:59 PM): Well... I don't think it is needed as Kiyoshi isn't going to be auto exiled
spies4Zander (12:58:03 PM): I don't think everyone would go through with it
spies4kip (12:58:13 PM): I wouldn't
spies4madison (12:58:45 PM): i always get former/latter confused, and i dont know why its not that difficult.
spies4Zander (12:58:59 PM): Madison is too cute haha
spies4Singe (12:59:05 PM):
spies4Angelica (12:59:14 PM): Haha
spies4Angelica (12:59:48 PM): Hey Singe, what caused you to switch your vote (prevote?) from Masaki to Gordy?
spies4Singe (1:00:11 PM): I never suspected MAsaki
spies4Zander (1:00:12 PM): Masaki? I don't suspect him at all, haha
spies4Singe (1:00:15 PM): that was an example
spies4kip (1:00:23 PM): I don't think Masaki is spy at all
spies4Singe (1:00:24 PM): Bev got mad at me too, i was like
spies4Angelica (1:00:26 PM): Oh, okay. My mistake then.
spies4Singe (1:00:30 PM): BEV IT WAS AN EXAMPLE
spies4Zander (1:00:32 PM): I think masaki is very smart, and is going to be an asset to us
spies4Singe (1:00:36 PM): OMG NEXT TIME ILL USE AL GORE
spies4Zander (1:00:41 PM): And if he can keep laying low, then he'll help even more
spies4kip (1:00:47 PM): Yeah, he's good
spies4Zander (1:00:47 PM): AHAHAHA!
spies4kip (1:00:52 PM): He and I know each other
spies4Singe (1:00:58 PM): interesting
spies4Singe (1:01:12 PM): he seems thoughtful
spies4Angelica (1:01:36 PM): I get a strange vibe from him. Not so much a Spy vive... but something seems off to me.
spies4Zander (1:01:53 PM): It may just be him trying to protect himself. I certainly can't blame him
spies4kip (1:01:55 PM): How do you mean by strange vibe?
spies4Zander (1:02:07 PM): Even when people try to get others to play a more vocal game, it's never going to turn out that way
spies4Angelica (1:02:12 PM): It's a gut thing, something just seems wrong.
spies4kip (1:02:33 PM): Because I talk to him fairly lot, much more than I talk to anyone else, and I never got that vibe
spies4Angelica (1:02:39 PM): It's like when you think you're forgetting something, but have no idea what it is.
spies4Zander (1:02:51 PM): Maybe he's just more open to some than others...
spies4Angelica (1:02:55 PM): Well, maybe that's why. My talks with him have been substantially less.
spies4Singe (1:03:01 PM): breakfast date! woot i gotta shower brb
spies4Zander (1:03:10 PM): I'll agree withg Angelica here, he does seem more detached in my conversations than with other people, but I still dont' suspect him
spies4Angelica (1:03:13 PM): Breakfast? *checks watch*
spies4kip (1:03:39 PM): Hmm...
spies4Zander (1:03:40 PM): Maybe he lives in Alaska?
spies4Zander (1:03:57 PM): Or Hawaii...
spies4kip (1:04:03 PM): It's Saturday. People get up late
spies4Zander (1:04:09 PM): Or that
spies4Leon (1:04:17 PM): its 1 o clock for me
spies4Angelica (1:04:20 PM): Yes, but I still call a mean at noon lunch even if it's my first of the day.
spies4Zander (1:04:21 PM): I usually call it brunch after 12
spies4Zander (1:04:23 PM): Me too Leon
spies4Angelica (1:04:24 PM): meal*
spies4kip (1:05:02 PM): Well, anyway... does anyone here suspect Gordy? Because he had been the first person to give me spy-vibes in the game
spies4kip (1:05:11 PM): right with the first post he made
spies4Angelica (1:05:52 PM): Gordy is to me what Masaki is to you. I talk to him a lot and really don't feel he's that suspicious.
spies4Zander (1:05:59 PM): I really don't suspect him though, that's the thing... Maybe I'm just not looking at the whole picture
spies4madison (1:06:04 PM): im kind of neutral on gordy
spies4Zander (1:06:05 PM): but while he's not serious, he's not suspicious to me either
spies4Zander (1:06:09 PM): Yeah
spies4madison (1:06:10 PM): ut we talk about silly stuff
spies4kip (1:06:53 PM): Oh, ok
spies4kip (1:07:01 PM): I don't think I've talked to gordy yet
spies4kip (1:07:14 PM): Well, I don't think I've talked to about 3/4th of the cast yet
spies4Zander (1:07:17 PM): That could be it too... It's dangerous to suspect someone without talking to them first
spies4Zander (1:07:19 PM): i.e. Martha
spies4Angelica (1:07:34 PM): Touche

[Zander]

spies4Zander (12:47:02 AM): Absolutely
spies4Singe (12:47:12 AM): hey
spies4Singe (12:47:16 AM): that's my hunch
spies4Zander (12:47:16 AM): I think we all called that Bev had testes when the game started haha
spies4Zander (12:47:18 AM): How's it going?
spies4Singe (12:47:21 AM): good lol
spies4Singe (12:47:42 AM): just watched the ballgame, people are still over so i float in and out of the chatroom
spies4Singe (12:48:02 AM): i'm not prepared for Exile yet but the details are filling in on a few people
spies4Singe (12:48:16 AM): really need to talk to Grace, Cain, Maddy, Emma, and mostly Kip
spies4Zander (12:48:34 AM): Yeah I wish people were actually on so I could talk to them
spies4Zander (12:49:14 AM): I think I will be voting either Emma, Grace, or Johan, because of their quietness... But I wish there was someone more vocal that I actually had reasons for voting
spies4Zander (12:49:56 AM): Did you just call me Candy's spypartner? lol, lord no, thanks
spies4Singe (12:50:01 AM): IfGrace doesnt impress me she'll get my vote
spies4Singe (12:50:27 AM): Gordy impressed me
spies4Singe (12:50:33 AM): Jeremiah, not as much
spies4Zander (12:50:43 AM): How so?
spies4Singe (12:50:45 AM): Which
spies4Zander (12:50:49 AM): both? lol
spies4Zander (12:51:02 AM): I never really suspected Gordy, but it seems he is starting to take the game seriously
spies4Zander (12:51:13 AM): I almost never talk to Jeremiah, so I have nothing to really offer on him
spies4Singe (12:51:25 AM): Gordy told me his thoughts
spies4Singe (12:51:28 AM): on a bunch of people
spies4Singe (12:51:34 AM): and they sounded consistent
spies4Singe (12:51:38 AM): not phony
spies4Singe (12:51:48 AM): Jeremiah was more calculating
spies4Singe (12:51:54 AM): he didnt give me much to work with
spies4Singe (12:52:02 AM): and was interested in his image
spies4Singe (12:52:20 AM): going to have to figure out his style quick, cause for now there's no way i trust him
spies4Zander (12:53:19 AM): I talked to him basically before identities were revealed, and then I haven't really heard from him since
spies4Singe (12:53:25 AM): you really should
spies4Zander (12:53:30 AM): he seems to just stick mostly to Naomi I guess... from at least what I hear
spies4Singe (12:53:35 AM): he's going to make a difference in this game one way or another
spies4Zander (12:53:39 AM): There are a few people I really have to strive to talk to I guess
spies4Singe (12:53:39 AM): he's a horse trader
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spies4Zander (1:05:23 PM): I just realized that my neighbors are Grace, Emma, Adelaide, and Jeremiah... And I've never spoken to Grace or Emma, haven't spoken to Jeremiah in a week, and barely barely ever talk to Adelaide
spies4Angelica (1:06:26 PM): Grace and Emma are not on much anyway. And Jeremiah isn't really talking to anyone.
spies4Zander (1:06:32 PM): Apparently lol
spies4Zander (1:06:36 PM): I just thought it was interesting
spies4Zander (1:06:43 PM): You're doing a good job in this chat by the way
spies4Zander (1:06:58 PM): I don't think anyone really suspects you right now and you're doing a good job at subtly getting close to people and knowing their suspicions
spies4Angelica (1:07:21 PM): With the exception of Lloyd going apeshit, you're doing well yourself.
spies4Zander (1:07:29 PM): And Ralph
spies4Zander (1:07:31 PM): but thanks
spies4Angelica (1:07:40 PM): Ralph doesn't count.
spies4Zander (1:07:50 PM): As long as I can protect myself from Adelaide, who now has Lloyd's info... I'll be okay
spies4Angelica (1:08:20 PM): We can always take her out and hope she doesn't pass it on to anyone else.
spies4Zander (1:08:36 PM): Well she'll post it tomorrow once Lloyd is gone, but I'm working up a defense right now
spies4Zander (1:08:46 PM): I literally have pen and paper in front of me, and I'm plotting out my moves for this week
spies4Zander (1:08:52 PM): so that I don't act irrationally anymore
spies4Angelica (1:09:18 PM): Don't freak out though. If you go on the defensive before you're accused it screams guilt.
spies4Zander (1:09:28 PM): I know
spies4Zander (1:09:31 PM): I almost did it twice today
spies4Zander (1:09:48 PM): There have been many things I've almost posted just out of anger that I had to hold myself back from
spies4Angelica (1:09:51 PM): Just stay calm. Most of the Burg doesn't know it's you I think.
spies4Zander (1:10:03 PM): Only my family, lloyd, and Adelaide know
spies4Zander (1:10:10 PM): And Lloyd's family
spies4Zander (1:10:18 PM): but besides that, we have Faiz, Madison, maybe Gordy, on my side
spies4Zander (1:10:20 PM): probably Bev
spies4Angelica (1:10:21 PM): But that's Faizah, Beverly, and Bunni. Doesn't count.
spies4Angelica (1:10:45 PM): I really want to find out more about what Gordy's trying to pull with this role.
spies4Zander (1:11:06 PM): if he ever spoke seriously with me, I could figure it out
spies4Zander (1:11:18 PM): Okay basically I don't think we can exile someone from my family this week. Eyes are falling off of Madison
spies4Zander (1:11:30 PM): it might be smarter to try to get someone else suspicious, because if we get rid of Ralph and he's not a Spy, I'm next
spies4Angelica (1:11:36 PM): He's a hard one to keep on track, but he does talk serious sometimes.
spies4Angelica (1:12:16 PM): I think right now you're the least suspicious person in your family.
spies4Zander (1:13:03 PM): Thank God, and hopefully once I convince Adelaide that Martha accused Lloyd just to find out his identity (Cause Yves would do that), I'll be in the clear
spies4Zander (1:13:12 PM): Then I might pretend to be buddy buddy with Ralph again
spies4Angelica (1:13:32 PM): I have a feeling Ralph will selfdestruct, it's only a matter of time.
spies4Zander (1:13:51 PM): And the less it makes it look like I made him do it, the better
spies4Zander (1:14:10 PM): I can become his friend once more if I make him believe that Martha accused Lloyd
spies4Zander (1:14:17 PM): It'll be easy to make Adelaide think it, I think
spies4Zander (1:14:22 PM): since she says Martah was a bad citizen
spies4Zander (1:14:36 PM): but with the Jeremiah influence, if he comes back tonight strong-willed again, it could be hard to push him down
spies4Zander (1:14:49 PM): I think... THINK... I could have Singe and Kip on my side defending me on it
spies4Angelica (1:15:08 PM): Depending on how Jeremiah acts this round, I think he may need to be Imprisoned.
spies4Zander (1:15:09 PM): and who knows, Masaki could come out of the woodwork. Apparently I am one of the few he trusts almost completely! And because he says my logic makes sense
spies4Zander (1:15:23 PM): True, I would have wanted to go with him but he was protected
spies4Angelica (1:15:37 PM): And the whole Lloyd thing
spies4Zander (1:15:41 PM): Also, I looked back at one of my first conversations with Ralph, and Ralph may have a role
spies4Zander (1:15:57 PM): he told me right away that no matter what I had to protect him and Madison, and he had to protect Madison throughout the game
spies4Angelica (1:16:19 PM): Sounds like Gordy.
spies4Zander (1:16:24 PM): Yeah...
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spies4Angelica (2:03:10 PM): The plot thickens...
spies4Zander (3:37:10 PM): So pissed about this
spies4Zander (3:37:32 PM): at least Lloyd's imprisonment would have framed me in a way I could have gotten out of. Now his lack thereof frames me in more than one way and it's not something I can defend lol
spies4Angelica (3:37:45 PM): I want to know what the hell is going on, but I'm not going to press Sam on it.
spies4Zander (3:37:52 PM): Onto plan 2 for the week - try to re-befriend Ralph
spies4Zander (3:38:03 PM): Plan 1 was to explain WHY I couldn't have accused Lloyd
spies4Zander (3:38:08 PM): so now that will have to wait even longer
spies4Zander (3:38:26 PM): Maybe if we Imprison Lloyd (for real) next week, it will look less suspicious...
spies4Zander (3:39:15 PM): I also love how it's quite possible Grace got the advantage for the challenge, and she didn't even show up to it
spies4Zander (3:39:21 PM): hopefully one of our families wins
spies4Zander (3:39:28 PM): although Singe and Kip may have very well sealed it for theirs
spies4Zander (3:39:45 PM): They're some sharp cookies, and I showed up late
spies4Angelica (3:39:56 PM): Apparently somehow my family got a 10 minute bonus Sam forgot to give us...
spies4Zander (3:40:03 PM): wow haha
spies4Angelica (4:22:36 PM): Bah! When is Sam going to clue us in! I don't like this.
spies4Zander (4:22:50 PM): Think: It's Sam
spies4Zander (4:22:55 PM): the twists always comes after Week 2 Exile
spies4Angelica (4:23:16 PM): Not always.
spies4Angelica (4:23:32 PM): And I can't wait that long! I'm impatient damnit!
spies4Zander (4:23:43 PM): Okay, well, if I know Sam, and this twist will make sense at all... It'll appear after Exile
spies4Zander (4:23:49 PM): we just have to make sure we retain all spies until then
spies4Angelica (4:23:59 PM): I don't see that being a problem.
spies4Angelica (4:24:08 PM): O.O
spies4Zander (4:24:08 PM): me neither
spies4Angelica (4:24:09 PM): IDEA!
spies4Zander (4:24:14 PM): I can't believe Lloyd didn't carry through with getting em out
spies4Zander (4:24:15 PM): yes yes!
spies4Angelica (4:24:43 PM): What if there really are two sets of Spies. Each choses who they want to Imprison, and the Fatemaker picks who goes?
spies4Zander (4:24:48 PM): I pray there are
spies4Zander (4:25:04 PM): And I think that makes sense
spies4Angelica (4:25:47 PM): That would make things interesting.
spies4Zander (4:27:03 PM): I just hope there are a lot of spies
spies4Zander (4:27:19 PM): and if we can figure out who the fatemaker is, we could basically pick themselves vs. the person we want Imprisoned every week
spies4Zander (4:27:24 PM): and so no matter what, the person we want gets imprisoned
spies4Angelica (4:27:52 PM): Unless we are working against the assumed second group of Spies.
spies4Zander (4:29:24 PM): true
spies4Zander (8:35:34 PM): OH MY GOD
spies4Zander (8:35:35 PM): OH MY GOD
spies4Zander (8:35:37 PM): OH MY GOD
spies4Zander (8:35:48 PM): About Imprisonment:
spies4Zander (8:35:48 PM): spies4Masaki (8:34:47 PM): I wonder what was up with that delay.
spies4Zander (8:35:07 PM): Probably Sam pretending to have a life, haha!
spies4Masaki (8:35:09 PM): I don't think it was because Sam didn't have time to get to it -- he was online and about ready to have us do our challenge but we rescheduled because Naomi wasn't around
spies4Zander (8:35:59 PM): If your theory about the Fatemaker is right
spies4Zander (8:36:06 PM): Naomi is the Fatemaker
spies4Zander (8:36:39 PM): At least... It really really really makes sense....
spies4Angelica (8:48:59 PM): I don't know if Naomi is automatically the Fatemaker. I mean, Sam probably made a thread for them right after we made our decision, giving them ~24 hours ro make their own.
spies4Zander (8:49:40 PM): Yes, but what if she took her time and then just disappeared without figuring it out
spies4Angelica (8:50:06 PM): It's possible.
spies4Zander (8:50:22 PM): But then again, Sam might have postponed it because Leon didn't show up and they were already down Martha...
spies4Zander (8:50:30 PM): Who knows, I guess I just freaked out, but it's a strong possibility
spies4Angelica (8:51:01 PM): Anything is possible until Sam tells me otherwise.
spies4Zander (8:51:05 PM): And good job to Faizah for naming the exact same suspect as me in the burg *rolls eyes * lol
spies4Angelica (8:51:44 PM): Hopefully no one'll notice
spies4Zander (8:52:11 PM): The way she said it was pretty similar to my wording too... Now I'm slightly paranoid again lol
spies4Zander (8:52:18 PM): Now I won't vote with her no matter what
spies4Zander (8:52:32 PM): I could very easily change my mind to Emma, Candy, Bunni, or someone else
spies4Angelica (8:53:22 PM): I think I might pull a Candy and just throw out a random vote, I haven't decided yet.
spies4Zander (8:55:01 PM): Either way it's foolish for us to vote together when none of us are really in danger
spies4Zander (8:55:12 PM): From what I hear all suspicions of me have basically disippated, unless people are lying.
spies4Zander (8:55:28 PM): Adelaide isn't suspicious of me at all and LLOYD sent her privately the information about me
spies4Zander (8:55:36 PM): So... I'm confused, maybe I'll be blindsided
spies4Zander (8:55:43 PM): Keep your ears open
spies4Angelica (8:56:26 PM): Most people seem to be dismissing it all together. Feel it's less important than Lloyd is making it out to be.
spies4Zander (8:57:06 PM): Overall it seems Ralph and Lloyd came out more suspect than anything else. Thanks Singe
spies4Zander (8:57:16 PM): Singe and Masaki have officially been deemed my "ass savers"
spies4Angelica (8:58:14 PM): Singe is really probing at Ralph. Feels he's nervous and likely to make a slip up, so he's trying to force it by asking him tough questions.
spies4Zander (8:59:10 PM): Apparently masaki is voting Ralph
spies4Zander (8:59:19 PM): I really have to try to keep Ralph from going or I could be next
spies4Zander (8:59:40 PM): I just hope the inactive majority overrules everything else
spies4Angelica (9:00:41 PM): You mean like penalty votes?
spies4Zander (9:00:59 PM): That, yes
spies4Zander (9:01:07 PM): because there's no way we'll have a majority for anyone
spies4Zander (9:01:19 PM): so if we scatterfuck this, spies last one more round and preserve themselves
spies4Zander (9:01:26 PM): Ralph continues to look like an idiot, and maybe I'll last til week 4
spies4Zander (9:01:59 PM): Ralph INSISTS that if our family wins he wants the mystery prize. I'm afraid it's an investigation, and I basically refuse to give it to him
spies4Zander (9:02:04 PM): but not in that way
spies4Zander (9:02:14 PM): I was like "Well, I want it too, so maybe I'll fight you for it haha!"
spies4Angelica (9:02:31 PM): I don't think there'll be penalty votes, from the way Sam is talking.
spies4Zander (9:02:50 PM): Hmmm.... Then I hope a relatively inactive person leaves
spies4Angelica (9:05:16 PM): My money's on Kip right now.
spies4Zander (9:06:08 PM): And no way in hell will I vote for him, so as long as he is not a spy from another group, that's good
spies4Angelica (9:07:12 PM): I really wish Sam would just get on with it and announce the number of Spies.
spies4Zander (9:07:28 PM): Hopefully after exile...
spies4Zander (9:07:31 PM): I really really hope after exile
spies4Zander (9:07:55 PM): Do you know which people are voting for Kip?
spies4Angelica (9:09:31 PM): Not off the top of my head, no. But I have heard his name a lot.
spies4Zander (9:10:07 PM): Yeah...
spies4Angelica (12:08:33 AM): This is far more entertaining than it should be.
spies4Zander (12:09:00 AM): Mostly because it's totally detached from the game and I don't have to worry about being a spy
spies4Zander (12:09:04 AM): and Bev is just ridiculous
spies4Zander (12:09:16 AM): whoever she is is my favorite person because she just helps us out by taking attention away from spywork haha
spies4Angelica (12:09:39 AM): Yup!
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spies4Angelica (12:06:27 AM): SO WHAT HAPPENED!?
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spies4Zander (1:00:44 AM): hey
spies4Zander (1:00:49 AM): did you read the HQ?
spies4Angelica (1:00:49 AM): Hey!
spies4Angelica (1:00:54 AM): Yes. Called it!
spies4Zander (1:00:57 AM): I wasn' there either, reading it all was a freaking mindfuck
spies4Zander (1:01:01 AM): You did, but this sucks lol
spies4Zander (1:01:07 AM): We just have to hope the other spies are more obvious than us
spies4Angelica (1:01:11 AM): It does put a twist on things.
spies4Zander (1:01:14 AM): And we have to think about who they are and use it to our advantage
spies4Angelica (1:01:24 AM): I want to post something out.
spies4Zander (1:01:25 AM): now even if someone advocates a spy exile though, we can convince the public that they may not be a citizen
spies4Angelica (1:01:26 AM): point*
spies4Angelica (1:02:05 AM): From a few days ago: spies4Gordy: omg we should call ourselves Mr. and Mrs. Smith What if he really is on the other side?!
spies4Angelica (1:03:08 AM): I just find it really fun.
spies4Angelica (1:03:15 AM): So, here's what I see. Do we.....
spies4Angelica (1:03:33 AM): A) Imprison Lloyd, seeing at the Fatemaker already knows one side wants him out.
spies4Angelica (1:03:41 AM): B) Pick someone with this is a Citizen.
spies4Angelica (1:03:53 AM): we think*
spies4Angelica (1:04:00 AM): C) Pick someone we think is a Spy
spies4Zander (1:04:09 AM): I would prefer to get someone out that would be hard to get out in the future, and NOT a spy
spies4Zander (1:04:11 AM): like Lloyd
spies4Angelica (1:05:14 AM): When is it due?
spies4Zander (1:06:28 AM): I think we have a couple of days
spies4Angelica (1:06:34 AM): Ok, good.
spies4Zander (1:06:54 AM): It should also be an Imprisonment that might not reveal who our group of spies are, as usual
spies4Zander (1:07:02 AM): and Lloyd is an easy shakeoff... But there are obviously other candidates
spies4Zander (1:07:08 AM): Jeremiah and Naomi could REALLY look like Spies now
spies4Zander (1:07:10 AM): That's what I love
spies4Angelica (1:07:15 AM): They COULD be Spies!
spies4Zander (1:07:41 AM): Yes, and so there could be massive support for them to leave
spies4Zander (1:07:49 AM): keep in mind Jeremiah was protected from Imprisonment this past round
spies4Zander (1:07:59 AM): maybe that's some crazy clue
spies4Angelica (1:08:07 AM): But that doesn't make him a Citizen. Someone with a role might have selected him.
spies4Angelica (1:08:13 AM): We'll have to wait and see if it happens again.
spies4Zander (1:08:16 AM): Yeah
spies4Angelica (1:09:44 AM): Oh, and I love the irony that we both wanted Lise to go!
spies4Zander (1:09:53 AM): Yes!
spies4Angelica (1:10:31 AM): Poor girl was screwed all around.
spies4Angelica (1:12:05 AM): I would also like to point out that every house that we are not part of has lost someone.
spies4Zander (1:13:46 AM):
spies4Zander (1:14:40 AM): I'm talking to Summer about this and seeming so naive lol
spies4Angelica (1:15:04 AM): I was talking to her not too long ago.
spies4Zander (1:15:20 AM): She's expalining all of this step by step to me
spies4Zander (1:15:25 AM): now she has no reason to think I'm a spy lol
spies4Angelica (1:15:32 AM): Haha
spies4Zander (1:15:34 AM): spies4Summer (1:15:10 AM): Let's say you're in one group of spies and I'm in the other
spies4Zander (1:15:37 AM): PROBABLY TRUTH hahahah!
spies4Angelica (1:15:42 AM): HAHA
spies4Zander (1:15:42 AM): That's my favorite statement of the evening
spies4Zander (1:15:46 AM): I'm saving that
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[Zander]

spies4Gordy (3:34:40 PM): Saturday afternoon Zander love <33333333333333

Auto response from spies4Zander (3:34:40 PM): Out at the market

spies4Gordy (5:05:33 PM): what the hell?

Auto response from spies4Zander (5:05:33 PM): Out at the market

spies4Zander (5:05:39 PM): hm?
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spies4Zander (5:05:52 PM): Um no i didn't lol
spies4Gordy (5:05:58 PM):
spies4Zander (5:06:02 PM): I definitely didn't click away haha
spies4Gordy (5:06:27 PM): <333333 Zander
spies4Zander (5:06:46 PM): Thanks man
spies4Gordy (5:07:19 PM): </3 Singe. He said he was going to vote for me at exile
spies4Gordy (5:07:26 PM): I'm so sad he'd do sucha thing
spies4Zander (5:08:00 PM): Who knows, there's still time
spies4Zander (5:08:03 PM): Brb!
spies4Gordy (5:18:39 PM): how dare you call me a gay prostitute sweety
spies4Zander (5:20:07 PM): I said I loved you like a gay prostitute
spies4Zander (5:20:09 PM): there is a difference
spies4Gordy (5:20:48 PM): you mean our love isn't real?

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spies4Zander (5:21:16 PM): Not in the gay prostitute way
spies4Gordy (5:24:30 PM): I haven't given up on you just yet Zander. someday...

Auto response from spies4Zander (5:24:30 PM): Out yet again, but I don't know when I'll be back...

spies4Zander (5:24:46 PM): Yes, someday our love will reach to the skies, Gordy
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spies4Gordy (3:49:26 PM): you are so cruel to me
spies4Gordy (3:49:34 PM): when all i did was confess my love to you
spies4Zander (3:50:09 PM): Gordy nooooooooooo!
spies4Gordy (3:51:54 PM): what's up buddy?
spies4Gordy (3:52:05 PM): Why you so sad? I was thinking of voting for either Kip or Naomi
spies4Gordy (3:52:09 PM): they're both so sly to me
spies4Zander (3:53:16 PM): Kip is sly but I think he's a citizen, and if he is he can be SUCH an asset
spies4Gordy (3:54:19 PM): you misspelled "asshat"
spies4Zander (3:55:30 PM): haha!
spies4Gordy (3:57:24 PM): then tell me, Mr. Laughingatmydeath, do you think my voting for Naomi will change anything except piss her off?
spies4Gordy (3:57:36 PM): Sunday afternoon Zander love <3333333
spies4Zander (3:58:25 PM): Um, I don't know, probably not
spies4Zander (3:58:30 PM): I'm surprised she suspects Madison still
spies4Gordy (3:59:06 PM): she is stuck 2 days in the past
spies4Gordy (4:00:29 PM): my only evidence against Naomi so far is 1) giving the tiebreaker to someone outside her family 2) always defending Jer and 3) always trying to come off as a helpful cit. Who puts their neck out there like that unless you're lloyd
spies4Zander (4:02:34 PM): You definitely have a good point, and I am suspicious to their super-defense of each other
spies4Gordy (4:12:27 PM): I'm still suspicious of you to be honest *
spies4Gordy (4:12:48 PM): you are trying to kill Ralph at night
spies4Zander (4:13:00 PM): what? lol
spies4Zander (4:13:15 PM): Please, if I wanted Ralph dead I would just make an anvil fall on his face or something magical
spies4Gordy (4:14:18 PM): maybe you brainwashed him with your formal speak!
spies4Gordy (4:14:24 PM): >_<
spies4Zander (4:14:32 PM): Clearly not, haha
spies4Gordy (4:15:10 PM): I bet you're used to all the ladies fawning over you haha
spies4Zander (4:16:21 PM): Well, what can I say
spies4Gordy (4:19:46 PM): well? what CAN you say?
spies4Gordy (4:20:01 PM): don't leave me hanging Zander. This isn't right that you deny my feelings for you
spies4Gordy (4:20:02 PM):
spies4Zander (4:20:47 PM): Umm
spies4Zander (4:21:08 PM): I can say that I am ridiculously handsome, tadaaaaa
spies4Gordy (4:22:08 PM): god sometimes I want to smack you with a tuna
spies4Gordy (4:22:17 PM): wipe that arrogant smug off your face
spies4Zander (4:22:40 PM): What if smacking me with a tuna turned me on?
spies4Gordy (4:23:14 PM): only if fish oil drives you wild. I got some in the kitchen
spies4Zander (4:23:57 PM): haha
spies4Zander (4:24:00 PM): hey now
spies4Gordy (4:24:19 PM): admit it. you bitch about me to lloyd
spies4Gordy (4:24:26 PM): and now he won't talk to me
spies4Gordy (4:25:03 PM): sorry, I'm kinda feel like spazzing out on you
spies4Zander (4:25:14 PM): I don't lol
spies4Zander (4:25:24 PM): I defend you to basically everyone cause I don't think you're a spy
spies4Zander (4:25:29 PM): same with Maddy
spies4Gordy (4:25:53 PM): um aren't you the one who suspected Madison?
spies4Zander (4:26:37 PM): no?
spies4Zander (4:26:46 PM): I don't think I've ever suspected Madison
spies4Gordy (4:27:13 PM): woops my mistake haha
spies4Gordy (4:27:37 PM): Judith would be so proud of you *sniff*
spies4Gordy (4:28:13 PM): www.mystudios.com/women/fghij/gentileschi_judith_2.jpg
spies4Zander (4:28:14 PM): why? haha
spies4Gordy (4:28:36 PM): because you act all nice, but really you and your buddy Ralph are out trying to cut off someone's head
spies4Zander (4:28:41 PM): I actually studied that in an art history class
spies4Zander (4:28:47 PM): I'm not trying to kill anyone lol
spies4Zander (4:28:54 PM): Artemesia Gentileschi
spies4Gordy (4:28:56 PM): <3 art
spies4Zander (4:29:01 PM): right?
spies4Zander (4:29:07 PM): The Slaying of... or something...
spies4Zander (4:29:14 PM): I don't remember
spies4Gordy (4:29:21 PM): it's been too long for me haha
spies4Zander (4:29:27 PM): Holofernes
spies4Zander (4:29:37 PM): The Assassination of HOlofernes?
spies4Gordy (4:31:44 PM): I have no idea. I took a few art history courses long time ago
spies4Gordy (4:32:44 PM): is Masaki talking to you right now? I IMed him earlier this morning and he never responded. Fucker
spies4Gordy (4:32:52 PM): plus he listed you as one of the people he trusted
spies4Zander (4:33:01 PM): I Imed him earlier and he did not respond either
spies4Zander (4:33:08 PM): Don't take it personally, he's very quiet
spies4Gordy (4:36:33 PM): I hear he talks to Naomi a lot. Go figure
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spies4Zander (9:06:29 PM): If our family wins the challenge, what prize do you want?
Auto response from spies4Gordy (9:06:29 PM): Taking pics with my shitty 50mm camera outdoors

spies4Gordy (9:07:48 PM): I'll take immune from exile 3?? >_>
spies4Zander (9:08:09 PM): Okay, I just wanted to check beforehand. Have fun with the pictures!
spies4Gordy (9:08:13 PM): oh wait
spies4Gordy (9:08:17 PM): there's no immunity from exile 3
spies4Gordy (9:08:23 PM): <_<
spies4Zander (9:08:25 PM): I thought there were two exile immunities
spies4Zander (9:08:37 PM): Oh that's Exile 2
spies4Gordy (9:08:45 PM): who's in danger the most? Ralph?
spies4Zander (9:08:53 PM): That's what I think but he wants the mystery gift
spies4Zander (9:09:01 PM): I think we should give him immunity from this exile cause he might go
spies4Gordy (9:09:07 PM): I thought so too
spies4Gordy (9:09:15 PM): I don't want immunity from imprisonment
spies4Gordy (9:09:40 PM): I'd probably want immunity from exile 4 if I make it that far lmao
spies4Zander (9:09:45 PM): I don't either, I honestly don't know if anyone from our family will be imprisoned soon lol
spies4Gordy (9:09:51 PM): give it to madison
spies4Zander (9:09:54 PM): I want the later exile or the mystery gift
spies4Gordy (9:09:58 PM): <_<
spies4Zander (9:10:00 PM): I said I'd take whatever
spies4Zander (9:10:02 PM): lol
spies4Gordy (9:10:40 PM): decidefor me, but I ain;t taken immunity from imprisonment. end fo story. Give meone of the otjer three
spies4Gordy (9:10:51 PM): wow I suck at spelling
spies4Zander (9:11:09 PM): Gotcha haha
spies4Gordy (9:11:25 PM): mystery gift might be revealing who's a cit for sure
spies4Gordy (9:11:35 PM): so I'd rather learn towards an exile immunity
spies4Gordy (9:11:39 PM): ok ttyl haha
spies4Zander (9:12:04 PM): see ya
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[Zander]

spies4Ralph (4:02:47 PM): we about to start

Auto response from spies4Zander (4:02:47 PM): Out at the market

spies4Ralph (4:30:00 PM): DAMINT WHY CANT U FIND A FREAKING CHADALERE

Auto response from spies4Zander (4:30:00 PM): Out at the market

spies4Ralph (4:30:14 PM): HURRY THE FUCK UP
spies4Zander (4:30:47 PM): I'm sorry I'm trying!
spies4Zander (4:30:50 PM): Don't hurt me Ralph
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spies4Ralph (7:54:51 PM): so if we win challenge which prize u want?
spies4Zander (7:56:18 PM): Well since I might be a big exile target soon, but maybe not this week, I was thinking about one of those... I think the spies might use the suspicion you cast on me this week to their advantage so I probably will not be imprisoned... So, I'm not sure. MAYBE the mystery gift? I did think about it logically though...
spies4Zander (7:56:36 PM): It might be smart to give safety of this exile to Madison, since she's still a suspect to some.
spies4Zander (7:57:09 PM): Either me or Gordy should get the Imprisonment, and the other gets the mystery prize, and you get exile down the line since it doesn't seem like you are in danger? But like I was thinking, I guess I'm happy with anything if we win
spies4Zander (7:57:11 PM): what would you like
spies4Ralph (7:57:53 PM): i would like mystery gift
spies4Zander (7:59:32 PM): I'm just more interested in finding out what it is than anything else
spies4Ralph (8:00:01 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (8:00:47 PM): So are you not afraid of being eliminated soon?
spies4Ralph (8:01:31 PM): i am but i cant be worried about elimantions they come and go im gonna try my best but eliminations happen im here to hunt spies and that is what i wil do
spies4Ralph (8:01:45 PM): and i am hoping mystery gift helps me to accomplish that
spies4Zander (8:02:15 PM): Good point, I guess, but I don't think that however hard I tried I'd be able to just not be afraid of being Imprisoned or Exiled
spies4Zander (8:02:30 PM): Anyway, with all the drama that you stirred up this week, I have to ask... What was your goal?
spies4Zander (8:02:44 PM): Because Madison and I aren't sure if we can even trust you now
spies4Ralph (8:03:10 PM): i have told my reasons and posted reasons several times
spies4Zander (8:03:48 PM): From what I've seen and heard, you've told many different people many different things
spies4Zander (8:04:25 PM): You're aligned with several people outside of our family, and you gave falsified information (Saying you were the last to vote for Martha in our family when I have chat logs that say otherwise), and you did not justify or defend that... I just want to know Ralph
spies4Ralph (8:04:52 PM): i didnt say i was last vote i said that i wasnt the onmly one pushing
spies4Ralph (8:05:41 PM): again zander i am going to have to ask u to look at my posts i have defended myself i do not like to repeat myself......
spies4Zander (8:06:05 PM): spies4Ralph (12:59:16 PM): Zander was all for voting out a inactive then Gordy came in and said hannah and her group was voting Martha that is when Zander and Madison witched real quick and i followed
spies4Zander (8:06:06 PM): liar
spies4Ralph (8:06:21 PM): but i also said that i did put in my input
spies4Zander (8:06:25 PM): You don't mention yourself here at all
spies4Zander (8:06:34 PM): You make it look like the complete opposite of how things happened
spies4Zander (8:08:07 PM): How can I trust you when you're trying to make me look like a spy after you begged information out of me, especially when you're lying about some of the "facts" you give?
spies4Ralph (8:08:10 PM): in the end we all psuhed for Martha equally hard except Gordy i then went to later say that i campaigned for martha after our family discussed it with people outside our family so sure i might not have said it in that exact situation but i admited i campainged for martha everyone else was making it look like i was that only one in my family that agreed to vote martha and i persuaded all of u which aws definetly not the case
spies4Zander (8:08:20 PM): I feel stupid right now, because up until you started doing this I thought you were a citizen AND I thought I could trust you
spies4Zander (8:08:27 PM): and clearly it doesn't seem right now like either of those are the case
spies4Ralph (8:08:51 PM): trust probally not but i am a cit
spies4Zander (8:08:59 PM): Look at the chat log I posted in your thread in the burg, Ralph, because THAT is the truth and THAT is what happened
spies4Ralph (8:09:25 PM): WE ALL AGREED TO VOTE MARTHA AND ALL EQUALLY EXPRESSED IT EXCEPT GORDY IT WAS NOT ONE SDIED

spies4Zander (8:09:41 PM): NO IT WASN'T BUT YOU MADE IT SEEM LIKE IT WAS, SPECIFICALLY AGAINST GORDY AND MYSELF
spies4Zander (8:10:02 PM): You wanted YOURSELF to look innocent so you lied about what happened
spies4Ralph (8:10:07 PM): no i said in the end gordy was skeptical of switching
spies4Zander (8:10:10 PM): and when I called you out you posted NOTHING because you know it was the truth
spies4Zander (8:10:27 PM): Then how come other people have counts of you saying Gordy was the first to push for Martha's exile?
spies4Ralph (8:10:49 PM): all i said was gordy told us hannah was switching
spies4Ralph (8:10:56 PM): that is all i said
spies4Ralph (8:11:15 PM): spies4Zander (7:06:13 PM): spies4Ralph (12:59:16 PM): Zander was all for voting out a inactive then Gordy came in and said hannah and her group was voting Martha that is when Zander and Madison witched real quick and i followed
spies4Zander (8:11:34 PM): That's all you said to Lloyd
spies4Ralph (8:12:27 PM): u know zander what ever i am not asking for ure trust im not asking for anything u think im a spy vote me out when i turn out cit it will be best because next week the town will vote u out and u will be unmasked for the spy u are
spies4Ralph (8:12:37 PM): why else would u just throw around lloyds identity
spies4Ralph (8:12:49 PM): that fact was overlooked by other
spies4Zander (8:12:56 PM): I DONT KNOW, why did you?
spies4Zander (8:13:04 PM): To protect me or to frame me?
spies4Ralph (8:13:17 PM): i jsut tried to confirm it zander so we could have something to go by
spies4Zander (8:13:35 PM): Then why didn't you talk to us before you did it
spies4Zander (8:13:37 PM): Ralph, listen.
spies4Ralph (8:13:38 PM): and to help save u for imprisonment because all i heard was what a good player zander is never that he had a target
spies4Zander (8:13:54 PM): We're your family, and if you're going to do something that affects all of us, especially if you're not a spy, you just have to let us know first
spies4Zander (8:14:15 PM): because you threw our entire family into exile suspicion when you did it... And if we only wanted to find out Lloyd's identity, that was not necessary I think
spies4Zander (8:14:40 PM): If you genuinely had good intentions, and I'd like to think you do, then I hope our family can rebuild and move past this
spies4Zander (8:14:47 PM): It's just hard to trust you for obvious reasons
spies4Ralph (8:15:42 PM): again i didnt ask for ure trust but jsut ebcause trust isnt there does not mean im spy there are people i think are cit but i do not trust them either
spies4Zander (8:16:42 PM): I know you have a point but it just seemed like everything you did this week threw me under the bus. If you were genuinely trying to protect me then I just want to know
spies4Ralph (8:17:26 PM): i was i told u that on several occasions i am new to spies did not know identites were as big of a deal as they obviouslt are.......i made a mistake i have admitted that in posts
spies4Ralph (8:18:09 PM): I HAVE ADMITTED TO THE MISTAKE SAID MESSESE UP ADN APOLOGIZED!!!!! GOD DAMNIT IM HUMAN MISTAKES FUCKING HAPPEN! now u asking me the same question over and over again is pissing me offf lol
spies4Zander (8:18:16 PM): Okay, then as far as I'm concerned, your mistakes were just mistakes. Especially for a new player, moves like that are understandable. I'm not sure of your alignment but at this point we're still a family, and we still have to move on from it
spies4Zander (8:18:44 PM): Well can you understand why I have to get ridiculous amounts of confirmation about your intentions?
spies4Ralph (8:19:01 PM): im used to playing survivor and big brother i ahve learned those games are different from this one
spies4Zander (8:19:22 PM): That's funny, Madison said the other day that you were playing this game like it was survivor
spies4Ralph (8:19:42 PM): that is what i play
spies4Zander (8:20:04 PM): It seems a big part of your strategy :-P
spies4Ralph (8:20:12 PM): its what i am used to
spies4Ralph (8:21:19 PM): so will u get off my back now lol its starting to get old
spies4Zander (8:21:43 PM): I already said I was
spies4Ralph (8:22:16 PM): ok well i gotta go run an errand if it is revealed we won put in the fact that i want mystery prize
spies4Zander (8:22:55 PM): I'll mention it but if I decide I want it, you might have to fight for it :-P Who knows, we all might want it
spies4Ralph (8:23:08 PM): well we will fight for it then....
spies4Ralph (8:23:15 PM): BECAUSE I WANT IT BAD

spies4Zander (8:23:23 PM): Bring it, biotch!
spies4Zander (8:23:38 PM): Hah, I think you'll have the most problems getting it from Gordy
spies4Ralph (8:23:40 PM): O IT HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHTEN
spies4Ralph (8:23:47 PM): i think Gordy wants an immunity
spies4Zander (8:24:56 PM): We don't even knwo if we won yet haha
spies4Zander (8:25:00 PM): let's hope though
spies4Ralph (9:21:44 PM): 1) Mystery prize 2) immunity from exile two 3)immunity from exile 3 4) immunity from imprisonment that is my ranking
spies4Zander (9:21:55 PM): Gordy and I are just a bit concerned that you could be exiled this round, so we want you to be aware of that before you insist on the mystery prize thing
spies4Ralph (9:22:10 PM): i am aware of that and that is still my ranking
spies4Zander (9:22:17 PM): Gotcha
spies4Ralph (9:22:30 PM): i think everyone will go for lurker
spies4Zander (9:22:32 PM): I don't think anyone wants the Imprisonment one haha
spies4Ralph (10:00:13 PM): how u voting tomorow
spies4Ralph (10:02:37 PM): we are top three
spies4Ralph (10:05:43 PM): damn second place
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spies4Ralph (12:14:11 AM): so i voted
spies4Zander (12:15:23 AM): I'm guessing you went with Kip?
spies4Ralph (12:15:33 AM): yes
spies4Ralph (12:15:47 AM): i just think it was best choice with waht i had and i wont be on but for about an hour tomorow
spies4Zander (12:16:14 AM): Well, you have to make the choice that you have to make. I still have NO CLUE how I'll vote
spies4Ralph (1:02:41 AM): so u got a gf lol?
spies4Zander (1:02:56 AM): So irrelevant to the game lol
spies4Ralph (1:03:04 AM): lol........
spies4Zander (1:03:05 AM): She basically just demanded it, I didn't even have any say
spies4Ralph (1:03:12 AM): u liked it
spies4Ralph (1:03:24 AM): hey if u get to fool around i dont blame u lol
spies4Zander (1:03:32 AM): haha
spies4Ralph (1:04:06 AM): spies4Candy (12:01:36 AM): Don't make me remind you that someone knows your real name, MAGIC BOY
spies4Zander (1:04:24 AM): Yeah yeah
spies4Zander (1:04:30 AM): If Lloyd wants to use it, let him
spies4Ralph (1:04:33 AM): did u see my response
spies4Zander (1:04:36 AM): Yeah lol
spies4Zander (1:04:38 AM): I agree
spies4Ralph (1:04:39 AM): lol
spies4Zander (1:04:40 AM): I'm over accusations
spies4Ralph (1:04:55 AM): i accidently told my id to emma tonight
spies4Zander (1:05:07 AM): no you didn't lol
spies4Ralph (1:05:29 AM): i was creating an action*ralph leans in to give kiss* and i accidently typed my real name
spies4Zander (1:05:37 AM): Worst idea ever!
spies4Ralph (1:05:54 AM): i know it was a huge mistake
spies4Ralph (1:06:11 AM): i was pissed
spies4Zander (1:07:08 AM): I'm gonna head to bed
spies4Ralph (1:07:11 AM): night man
spies4Ralph (1:07:16 AM): i see u leave when bev does
spies4Zander (1:07:18 AM): maybe I'll see you tomorrow... But I gotta lock in a vote now cause I don't know if I'll be here either
spies4Zander (1:07:26 AM): I'll be gone for like... 14 hours tomorrow lol
spies4Zander (1:07:35 AM): Bow chicka bow wow, we're gonna hit the hay :-P
spies4Ralph (1:07:41 AM): ill be gone from 4-12but i get a break
spies4Ralph (1:07:48 AM): how u votin

Auto response from spies4Zander (1:07:48 AM): Sleep

spies4Zander (1:08:01 AM): Still have no clue... It's between Johan, Emma, and Grace for me
spies4Zander (1:08:06 AM): I basically have two seconds to decide
spies4Ralph (1:08:27 AM): think me through something real quick
spies4Zander (1:08:39 AM): hm?
spies4Ralph (1:08:52 AM): think of reasons sma could have postponed imprionment......
spies4Ralph (1:09:05 AM): didnt johan say he was out of town until this morning
spies4Ralph (1:09:13 AM): i know its not solid but......
spies4Zander (1:09:20 AM): Johan was out of town, and from what I heard Naomi was not present either
spies4Ralph (1:09:27 AM): i talked to naomi last night
spies4Ralph (1:09:32 AM): so that is not true
spies4Zander (1:09:47 AM): Ah, then Masaki either told me otherwise or I read it wrong
spies4Ralph (1:10:03 AM): but johan was absent until this morning before imprisonment was posted
spies4Zander (1:10:25 AM): spies4Masaki (8:34:47 PM): I wonder what was up with that delay.
spies4Zander (8:35:07 PM): Probably Sam pretending to have a life, haha!
spies4Masaki (8:35:09 PM): I don't think it was because Sam didn't have time to get to it -- he was online and about ready to have us do our challenge but we rescheduled because Naomi wasn't around
spies4Ralph (1:10:28 AM): just a thought to ponder i didnt find it solid enough to vote on but something i keep in my head
spies4Zander (1:10:57 AM): I guess that doesn't mean that Naomi wasn't here for Imprisonment though, just the challenge or something
spies4Ralph (1:11:06 AM): she might not ahve been onling for challenge but she was on earlier that day and later that night
spies4Zander (1:11:21 AM): Yeah. Well either way I'm not suspicious of her really
spies4Zander (1:11:42 AM): Hrm...
spies4Zander (1:12:01 AM): This is actually really tough...
spies4Ralph (1:12:19 AM): here i will put one down at a number one through three on my im u pick a number and whichever number u pick who u vote lol I AM TOTALLY KIDDING
spies4Zander (1:12:44 AM): It's bad enough I mentioned I kinda suspected Grace and now it seems at least 3 people have jumped on that plan
spies4Zander (1:13:04 AM): I do not want to vote for her just out of fear that if she's a citizen, they'll be like "ZANDER WANTED ME TO VOTE FOR HER" when I said NOTHING to anyone lol
spies4Ralph (1:13:33 AM): thats the game for u lol
spies4Zander (1:14:24 AM): Okay, I'll talk to you later man
spies4Ralph (1:14:28 AM): l8er
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spies4Ralph (1:48:49 AM): what a interestin exile i just read it
spies4Zander (1:49:25 AM): Yeah I missed it but Summer and Candy caught me all up
spies4Zander (1:49:31 AM): we missed a lot apparently
spies4Ralph (1:49:35 AM): yeah


Ugh Ralph you are such a bitch. Go away.

[Zander]

spies4Candy (12:43:45 AM): You talk to everyone else Magic Boy
spies4Candy (12:43:48 AM): But you never say HEY CANDY
spies4Candy (12:43:53 AM): What is UP with that
spies4Zander (12:43:54 AM): Well first, that's not true haha
spies4Candy (12:44:04 AM): You talked to Lloyd for hours and hours
spies4Zander (12:44:05 AM): But you also call me Magic Boy, and how flattering is that
spies4Zander (12:44:13 AM): But I didn't initiate the conversation! aha
spies4Candy (12:44:22 AM): I do NOT GET THAT
spies4Candy (12:44:28 AM): Why is everyone so afraid of IMing people
spies4Candy (12:44:29 AM): HONESTLY
spies4Zander (12:44:41 AM): I'm not afraid of IMing people, it just seems I have better relationships with some than others
spies4Zander (12:44:51 AM): in the same right Candy, you have not IMed me and had a serious conversation yet, I think
spies4Candy (12:45:00 AM): I've IMed you like 23 times
spies4Candy (12:45:21 AM): And me making an effort is saying a LOT
spies4Candy (12:45:24 AM): Boys flock to me
spies4Candy (12:45:29 AM): I never have to lift a finger
spies4Zander (12:46:08 AM): Well then, I'm sorry
spies4Zander (12:46:14 AM): What would you like to talk about?
spies4Candy (12:46:18 AM): Me
spies4Candy (12:46:22 AM): But we're not here to talk about me
spies4Zander (12:46:25 AM): *And I have logs, you've only IMed me about 4 times haha*
spies4Candy (12:46:29 AM): ONLY four
spies4Zander (12:46:31 AM): Okay so what should we talk about?
spies4Candy (12:46:34 AM): How many have YOU IMed me?
spies4Candy (12:46:37 AM): 0
spies4Zander (12:46:40 AM): Fair enough
spies4Candy (12:46:48 AM): I don't know!
spies4Candy (12:46:50 AM): Pretend I'm Lloyd
spies4Candy (12:46:52 AM): And go from there
spies4Zander (12:47:09 AM): Well if you were Lloyd you would viciously accost me for a while
spies4Candy (12:47:22 AM): I can do that
spies4Zander (12:47:23 AM): *attack, harangue, yell at*
spies4Candy (12:47:31 AM): IM ME MORE YOU IDIOT
spies4Candy (12:47:34 AM): Okay that's done
spies4Candy (12:47:40 AM): Next
spies4Zander (12:47:41 AM): But anyway, I don't know, neither one of us have really talked about anything game related at all
spies4Zander (12:47:50 AM): To each other, I mean
spies4Candy (12:47:51 AM): You mean to each other
spies4Zander (12:47:56 AM): Great minds think alike
spies4Candy (12:47:59 AM): See, you're already reading my mind
spies4Zander (12:48:04 AM): It's a talent, what can I say
spies4Candy (12:48:08 AM): TADA
spies4Candy (12:48:24 AM): Give me hints for the challenge
spies4Candy (12:48:30 AM): I'm kidding.
spies4Candy (12:48:39 AM): Now it's your turn to come up with a subject
spies4Zander (12:49:10 AM): Okay, well, what do you think of Naomi's plan?
spies4Zander (12:49:26 AM): Most of what I see you post in the burg supports neither side, and is just attacking other people, it seems
spies4Candy (12:49:27 AM): It's a moot point now
spies4Zander (12:49:32 AM): How so?
spies4Candy (12:49:49 AM): Sam said he's replacing Damon and will axe Kiyoshi if he doesn't show up
spies4Candy (12:50:06 AM): Naomi has her panties in a twist over this plan because she just wants to avoid Kiyoshi going
spies4Candy (12:50:11 AM): Moot point now
spies4Zander (12:51:02 AM): So wait Kiyoshi will be exiled no matter what if he doesn't show up?
spies4Zander (12:51:08 AM): That sucks
spies4Candy (12:51:59 AM): Obviously NOT
spies4Candy (12:52:07 AM): If he shows up, he votes and stays in
spies4Candy (12:52:23 AM): If he doesn't show up, Sam kicks him out - no waste of an exile
spies4Candy (12:52:28 AM): Get it now?
spies4Zander (12:52:54 AM): Oh, yeah
spies4Zander (12:53:13 AM): So either way we really shouldn't be worried about Kiyoshi, and now there's no point in everyone voting the same way
spies4Zander (12:53:19 AM): from what I heard many people weren't planning on doing that anyway
spies4Candy (12:53:34 AM): Who likes being told what to do?
spies4Candy (12:53:44 AM): And who likes being the martyr in such a plan?
spies4Zander (12:53:46 AM): Beyond that, how do you vote for someone you trust and others don't?
spies4Zander (12:54:17 AM): there were flaws, but I can't hate on Naomi for seeming to have good intentions with the plan
spies4Zander (12:54:26 AM): Although creating a plan like that definitely makes you look innocent
spies4Candy (12:54:29 AM): Sure
spies4Candy (12:54:42 AM): I'm still up in the air on it
spies4Candy (12:55:12 AM): I liked the drama more than the idea
spies4Zander (12:56:07 AM): haha
spies4Zander (12:56:12 AM): You seem like you would
spies4Candy (12:56:17 AM): Because you know me so well
spies4Zander (12:56:21 AM): Clearly
spies4Candy (12:56:23 AM): Snicker
spies4Zander (12:56:26 AM): But am I wrong?
spies4Candy (12:56:36 AM): If it's a good idea I'll jump on it
spies4Candy (12:56:54 AM): But you think I trust the judgment of the 27 people left in the game?
spies4Candy (12:57:15 AM): It was an issue of pride when you boil it down
spies4Zander (12:57:50 AM): Well eventually you might have to trust the judgment of others
spies4Zander (12:58:01 AM): If not you're going to have to lead all the plans on your own
spies4Zander (12:58:05 AM): You know what I mean?
spies4Candy (12:58:28 AM): Why do you think I'm talking to you?
spies4Candy (12:58:32 AM): Yeah I get it
spies4Zander (12:59:44 AM): Because I'm handsome, clearly
spies4Candy (1:00:13 AM): Scoff
spies4Candy (1:00:26 AM): Or because I want to see what your sense of judgment's like
spies4Zander (1:00:44 AM): Well of course almost every plan has its drawbacks and its positives
spies4Zander (1:01:07 AM): Ultimately I would like to do what I think will help myself and those I trust stay safe from Imprisonment/Exile
spies4Zander (1:01:20 AM): and so as far as judgment with plans and things, that's usually what I look for
spies4Candy (1:01:30 AM): Someone knows who you are
spies4Candy (1:01:36 AM): Got you in round 1
spies4Candy (1:01:42 AM): Made me question your judgment
spies4Zander (1:02:32 AM): As far as judgment with people... I don't know, it takes time for me to be willing to open up to people, and even more time and talking for me to think they are someone I can trust... If I find any type of contradiction, or a lack of commitment I'll usually never reach that level with them
spies4Zander (1:02:37 AM): Question my judgment? how?
spies4Zander (1:02:46 AM): It's not my judgment that makes someone know who I am, is it?
spies4Candy (1:02:58 AM): You don't know enough about yourself to know what gives you away?
spies4Candy (1:03:10 AM): I don't know spies from sandwiches - I had nothing to do with your accusation
spies4Candy (1:03:23 AM): But from what it seems like, it's why Martha left last round
spies4Candy (1:04:06 AM): And if you're a strong player, whoever knows that will make sure you go soon
spies4Candy (1:04:21 AM): That's why I question your judgment
spies4Zander (1:04:28 AM): Well I can imagine why someone knew who I was, but I still don't even know if that's my judgment as much as it is them trying to find out who I was?
spies4Candy (1:04:41 AM): Good point
spies4Candy (1:04:51 AM): Blind accusation
spies4Candy (1:05:04 AM): Do you know?
spies4Zander (1:05:24 AM): I know who accused me, and it was not blind. It was actually quite well educated and I commend them on it
spies4Zander (1:05:41 AM): But throwing around accusations so early, I just don't find reason for it
spies4Candy (1:05:54 AM): You can't be serious
spies4Candy (1:06:02 AM): Think about it for 2 seconds
spies4Zander (1:06:38 AM): what?
spies4Zander (1:06:41 AM): Well if they were a spy
spies4Zander (1:06:43 AM): Then yes
spies4Zander (1:07:10 AM): or they can use the information against them. But I don't find any reason for citizens to throw around accusations unless they seriously suspect someone else of being a spy, and think that they can get them exiled that round
spies4Candy (1:07:29 AM): There you go
spies4Zander (1:07:33 AM): From what I hear, someone threw around ridiculous amounts of accusations last round, and who knows who else accused
spies4Zander (1:07:38 AM): There are definitely past players here
spies4Zander (1:07:43 AM): They're just hiding now
spies4Candy (1:07:43 AM): Wouldn't have a clue
spies4Candy (1:08:08 AM): Point being - if you're a good player, you're in danger
spies4Candy (1:08:19 AM): And if I was a good past player, I would have done my best to HIDE it this time
spies4Candy (1:08:21 AM): You didn't
spies4Zander (1:08:37 AM): Well then I guess I'm not a good past player
spies4Candy (1:08:38 AM): Neither did Martha
spies4Candy (1:08:46 AM): And she allegedly was very good
spies4Zander (1:09:05 AM): Yves is psychotic, basically
spies4Candy (1:09:12 AM): Who is Yves
spies4Zander (1:09:16 AM): Martha
spies4Zander (1:09:26 AM): or rather, the person who played Martha - he revealed it on the night of his exile
spies4Candy (1:09:32 AM): Martha has a penis
spies4Candy (1:09:33 AM): That I remember
spies4Zander (1:09:35 AM): I honestly didn't suspect him at all of being Martha
spies4Zander (1:09:41 AM): but when he revealed it it made sense
spies4Candy (1:09:49 AM): I talked about this with someone else
spies4Candy (1:10:00 AM): They said they saw the time stamp on a convo Martha posted for everyone to see
spies4Candy (1:10:14 AM): If this person saw it and figured it out, then ANYONE could
spies4Candy (1:10:21 AM): (This person's an idiot)
spies4Candy (1:10:59 AM): I forgot what the original topic was
spies4Candy (1:11:01 AM): Uhhhhhhh
spies4Candy (1:11:05 AM): Oh right, you being in danger later
spies4Candy (1:11:08 AM): Next
spies4Zander (1:11:17 AM): huh?
spies4Zander (1:11:24 AM): oh lol
spies4Candy (1:13:45 AM): I'm getting bored, fast
spies4Zander (1:14:26 AM): Sorry
spies4Zander (1:14:38 AM): I don't know what else to talk about!
spies4Candy (1:14:53 AM): Tell me about your family
spies4Candy (1:15:04 AM): The only one I know is Gordy
spies4Zander (1:15:20 AM): Gordy is hilarious, I love that I can talk to him about anything and just laugh, but it's not that productive I guess
spies4Zander (1:15:45 AM): I love Madison, definitely a citizen in my eyes, and she and I get along very very well, I really don't think she's done anything shady
spies4Zander (1:16:02 AM): And Ralph, I do like him but he seems like he's got secret alliances with half the cast and I don't know what his motivation behind it all is
spies4Zander (1:16:18 AM): I didn't really think he was a spy for a while, but now I'm not sure, but he's still in my family so I shouldn't be focusing on him I guess.
spies4Zander (1:16:21 AM): How about your family?
spies4Candy (1:16:30 AM): What, I don't get to ask questions?
spies4Candy (1:16:40 AM): Ralph and secret alliances?
spies4Zander (1:16:42 AM): Ha, sorry, go ahead! You don't have to ask
spies4Zander (1:17:21 AM): From what I heard, he set them up with a bunch of people... Obviously my family, I think Lloyd, Singe, Faizah, maybe Beverly, and possibly a few other people. I can't remember everyone
spies4Zander (1:17:34 AM): but he didn't tell us about the other ones... So I don't know why he would set that up in the first place
spies4Candy (1:17:35 AM): Can't have been that much of a secret then
spies4Candy (1:17:44 AM): He IMs me as often as you do
spies4Candy (1:17:47 AM): Snicker
spies4Zander (1:17:54 AM): Well Lloyd told me about it, since he and Singe found out, and then we figured out he was doing it
spies4Candy (1:17:59 AM): Comparing notes
spies4Candy (1:18:04 AM): He types like an idiot
spies4Candy (1:18:07 AM): But I don't think he is one
spies4Zander (1:18:10 AM): Either that or trying to spread information that makes himself look better
spies4Zander (1:18:13 AM): Nobody does
spies4Candy (1:18:27 AM): Isn't he buddy buddy with Madison?
spies4Zander (1:18:35 AM): Used to be, until he tried to throw her under the bus I think
spies4Zander (1:18:46 AM): from what I heard he was going around entertaining Madison as a suspect for exile this week
spies4Candy (1:18:58 AM): Madison seems BORING
spies4Candy (1:19:04 AM): She never posts and we never talk
spies4Zander (1:19:06 AM): Aw, no, she's cute
spies4Zander (1:19:18 AM): You just have to have reason to talk to her I guess
spies4Candy (1:19:31 AM): I'm cute
spies4Candy (1:19:32 AM): She as cute as me?
spies4Zander (1:19:35 AM): Cuter
spies4Zander (1:19:38 AM): aha
spies4Candy (1:19:42 AM): You better be sure of that
spies4Zander (1:19:47 AM): I think she's the cutest girl in the cast
spies4Zander (1:19:54 AM): We both agreed we have the hottest family
spies4Candy (1:20:12 AM): Hotter than the divas?
spies4Candy (1:20:14 AM): I don't think so
spies4Zander (1:20:52 AM): They have Lloyd.
spies4Zander (1:20:53 AM): WE win.
spies4Candy (1:21:07 AM): Lloyd's looks are killer
spies4Candy (1:21:08 AM): Snicker
spies4Candy (1:21:29 AM): Why did you flip out over Ralph telling Lloyd blah blah blah tried to read it got bored
spies4Zander (1:22:03 AM): Haha, how did you read it?
spies4Candy (1:22:11 AM): It NEVER ENDED
spies4Candy (1:22:20 AM): It was worse than the readings I had to do when I was in school
spies4Candy (1:22:25 AM): I dropped out for a reason:
spies4Zander (1:22:27 AM): Anyway I was angry because it was something I told my family, and he begged me to tell him and then he said "Don't worry, you can trust me" so then he ran to Lloyd about it...
spies4Candy (1:22:28 AM): IT WAS BORING
spies4Zander (1:22:55 AM): I didn't think it was something that other people should know, but I figured I could at least trust my family with that information
spies4Zander (1:23:12 AM): I don't even know if Lloyd is the only person he told, he might have told others to target Lloyd or something - that's why I'm more worried than anything
spies4Candy (1:23:13 AM): Yeah you should totally trust a random group of players who signed up under the same letter round 1 of an alias game
spies4Candy (1:23:34 AM): But we're not talking about judgment ..
spies4Zander (1:23:51 AM): you're hilarious!
spies4Zander (1:23:57 AM): It wasn't that I trusted them to be citizens
spies4Zander (1:24:01 AM): It was that I figured we could share information
spies4Candy (1:24:05 AM): Sarcastic?
spies4Zander (1:24:09 AM): Clearly
spies4Candy (1:24:10 AM): I think so!
spies4Candy (1:24:33 AM): Well you were right there
spies4Candy (1:24:38 AM): Ralph shares information
spies4Candy (1:25:11 AM): So you're afraid Ralph's mouth will pick you up extra votes?
spies4Zander (1:25:12 AM): So it makes me a target for Imprisonment AND Exile because he wants to run around and tell people everything I think... And I just can't find motivation behind that I guess
spies4Zander (1:25:23 AM): Just get me eliminated in general I guess
spies4Zander (1:25:48 AM): I just can't trust him with anything anymore, that sucks
spies4Candy (1:26:04 AM): I'm snickering because you're trusting people
spies4Candy (1:26:17 AM): You do your thing
spies4Zander (1:26:24 AM): Judgment, I get it
spies4Candy (1:26:35 AM): Our first convo you tried to tell me what to do
spies4Candy (1:26:48 AM): I didn't like it then, don't like it now - so I won't tell YOU how to play YOUR game
spies4Zander (1:26:55 AM): well this was a lovely scathing conversation, Candy, but I'm going to go to bed now, I guess.
spies4Candy (1:27:01 AM): Sweet dreams
spies4Zander (1:27:07 AM): And I was trying to be helpful, not demanding, but okay then
spies4Candy (1:27:12 AM): I got it
spies4Candy (1:27:20 AM): No hard feelings
spies4Zander (1:27:24 AM): Hopefully
spies4Candy signed off at 1:27:41 AM.
spies4Candy signed on at 2:09:51 AM.
spies4Candy signed off at 3:49:26 AM.
spies4Candy signed on at 4:33:42 PM.
spies4Candy is away at 5:27:04 PM.
spies4Candy returned at 5:28:46 PM.
spies4Candy signed off at 6:41:58 PM.
spies4Candy signed on at 12:16:58 AM.
spies4Candy signed off at 2:39:58 AM.
spies4Candy signed on at 8:30:29 PM.
spies4Candy (11:15:19 PM): AHEM
spies4Zander (11:15:29 PM): Hey
spies4Candy (11:15:35 PM): OMG HI HOW ARE YOu
spies4Zander (11:15:37 PM): haha
spies4Zander (11:15:43 PM): I'm good Candy, how are you?
spies4Zander (11:15:58 PM): What did I miss at exile?
spies4Candy (11:16:29 PM): What did you miss
spies4Candy (11:16:35 PM): A shitload!
spies4Candy (11:16:50 PM): Grace self voted herself out of the game
spies4Candy (11:17:02 PM): Jeremiah threw a fit
spies4Candy (11:17:05 PM): "I told you so" etc.
spies4Candy (11:17:39 PM): Madison received the majority of "real" votes
spies4Candy (11:17:43 PM): 6/27
spies4Candy (11:18:00 PM): Singe also self-voted
spies4Candy (11:18:08 PM): And we found out how many spies there are
spies4Zander (11:20:07 PM): How many?
spies4Zander (11:20:30 PM): Wait when did there become a bandwagon on Madison?
spies4Zander (11:20:41 PM): ah, brb
spies4Zander (11:28:09 PM): I'm back
spies4Candy (11:29:41 PM): FInally
spies4Candy (11:29:44 PM): I've been waiting for hours
spies4Zander (11:29:53 PM): I'm impressed
spies4Candy (11:30:51 PM): So
spies4Candy (11:30:55 PM): Bandwagon on Madison
spies4Candy (11:31:00 PM): Guess who?!?!?!?!!?
spies4Zander (11:33:01 PM): um
spies4Zander (11:33:06 PM): you?
spies4Zander (11:33:08 PM): I don't know haha
spies4Candy (11:33:17 PM): As if
spies4Candy (11:33:20 PM): I have bigger fish to fry
spies4Zander (11:33:21 PM): Lloyd
spies4Candy (11:33:23 PM): Bingo
spies4Candy (11:33:27 PM): Plus Jeremiah
spies4Zander (11:33:28 PM): *sigh*
spies4Zander (11:33:48 PM): It's really hard to try and convince people that some people aren't spies, lol. I really just don't suspect Madison at all
spies4Candy (11:33:50 PM): Hannah jumped on the bandwagon to save herself
spies4Candy (11:33:57 PM): Faizah switched last minute
spies4Zander (11:34:10 PM): was Hannah in danger?
spies4Candy (11:34:13 PM): And Naomi signed on after votes were due and said she voted Madison earlier that afternoon
spies4Zander (11:34:17 PM): Where the votes as scatterfucked as I thought they woudl be?
spies4Candy (11:34:23 PM): Oh yeah
spies4Candy (11:34:24 PM): Summer's on
spies4Candy (11:34:27 PM): Ask her for the vote tally
spies4Zander (11:34:30 PM): I just started talking to her
spies4Candy (11:34:32 PM): Sam asked her to keep it though the exile
spies4Candy (11:41:51 PM): Oh I get it
spies4Candy (11:41:54 PM): You ditch me for Summer
spies4Zander (11:42:47 PM): Not really
spies4Candy signed off at 1:24:09 AM.



Gah, you are my least favorite player. If you're going to be a bitch, at least contribute, Arthur Junior.

[Zander]

spies4Beverly (1:07:44 AM): hey zander
spies4Zander (1:07:47 AM): Hey bev
spies4Beverly (1:08:05 AM): how are things cutie patootie
spies4Zander (1:08:43 AM): Doing good I guess, how about you?

spies4Beverly (1:09:00 AM): i am ok
spies4Beverly (1:09:12 AM): im feeling nervous cuz a lot of ppl put me on the trust list
spies4Beverly (1:09:14 AM): so i think im fucked
spies4Zander (1:10:10 AM): To be honest, who even knows if the spies are going to use that? They will probably eliminate someone quiet
spies4Beverly (1:10:20 AM): like who
spies4Beverly (1:10:23 AM): how will that help them
spies4Zander (1:10:44 AM): Because it doesn't cause any ripples in the burg, I guess
spies4Beverly (1:10:51 AM): like grace
spies4Zander (1:10:56 AM): Sure, I guess
spies4Zander (1:11:00 AM): Emma, maybe
spies4Beverly (1:11:08 AM): not emma shes cool
spies4Beverly (1:11:44 AM): i wonder what time it will go up
spies4Zander (1:11:54 AM): I don't know, but I can't say I'm not worried
spies4Beverly (1:13:00 AM): how did u do on the challenge
spies4Beverly (1:13:04 AM): we screwed up we were so disorderly
spies4Beverly (1:13:22 AM): it was just chaos we only got about half completed, who knows if they were even right
spies4Zander (1:14:23 AM): Sam told us not to tell
spies4Beverly (1:14:31 AM): o really
spies4Beverly (1:14:39 AM): whoops ive been telling ppl how we did lolll
spies4Zander (1:14:42 AM): hha
spies4Zander (1:14:51 AM): I honestly don't even know how much we completed
spies4Beverly (1:15:00 AM): it was just a mess for us
spies4Beverly (1:15:13 AM): we kind of got the hang of it.. in the last 5 minutes lol
spies4Beverly (1:15:26 AM): we spend like 15 minutes trying to figure which one to statrt
spies4Zander (1:16:28 AM): lol
spies4Zander (1:19:26 AM): I showed up like 20 minutes late
spies4Zander (1:19:32 AM): but I tried really really hard
spies4Beverly (1:19:37 AM): aww thats good
spies4Beverly (1:19:52 AM): hey do u suspect
spies4Beverly (1:19:56 AM): any of ur family
spies4Beverly (1:19:59 AM): cuz a lot of people do
spies4Zander (1:20:21 AM): Yeah apparently Summer suspects someone in your family is a spy and is targeting Faizah or something?
spies4Beverly (1:20:32 AM): she thinks faizah is a spy
spies4Beverly (1:20:34 AM): puppeting me
spies4Zander (1:20:38 AM): I think if anyone in your family was a spy, it'd probably be Bunni. Look how low she's laying...
spies4Zander (1:20:45 AM): Well has Faizah been puppeting you?
spies4Beverly (1:20:55 AM): i agree if anyone but i dont think bunni is either
spies4Beverly (1:20:57 AM): no not at all
spies4Beverly (1:21:20 AM): but iasked if
spies4Zander (1:21:21 AM): It's a weird thing for her to throw out there, to be honest
spies4Beverly (1:21:24 AM): U suspet any of UR family
spies4Beverly (1:21:29 AM): ya it was so random.. i waslike.. wtf..
spies4Beverly (1:22:21 AM): basiclaly do u suspcet ralph madison or gordy
spies4Zander (1:23:23 AM): I really really realy think Madison is a citizen
spies4Beverly (1:23:35 AM): ok ppl suspect her
spies4Beverly (1:23:37 AM): like crazy
spies4Zander (1:23:37 AM): Gordy i can't tell but I like him and don't think he's a threatening spy at least, I don't think he's a spy at all though
spies4Beverly (1:23:39 AM): IT MAKES NO SENSE
spies4Beverly (1:24:07 AM): can u please keep this to urself
spies4Beverly (1:24:10 AM): its been like eating meup
spies4Zander (1:24:13 AM): Sure
spies4Beverly (1:24:20 AM): i really think ralph and gordy are suspicious
spies4Beverly (1:24:23 AM): gordy the most
spies4Beverly (1:24:25 AM): and its really hard cuz like
spies4Beverly (1:24:30 AM): theya re my top allies like top 5
spies4Beverly (1:24:32 AM): and it sucks..
spies4Beverly (1:24:36 AM): because gordy today was all like
spies4Beverly (1:24:42 AM): " I DONT WAN TO TBE IMPRISONED"
spies4Beverly (1:24:46 AM): "ITS SO SCARY"
spies4Beverly (1:24:53 AM): " IF I GO PLEASE MAKE JUSTICE BEV"
spies4Beverly (1:24:57 AM): stuff liek that adn it wa slike..
spies4Beverly (1:25:04 AM): really blunt
spies4Beverly (1:25:12 AM): and then with ralph he made like 10 allies and didnt even tell me
spies4Beverly (1:25:19 AM): he told me i was his number2
spies4Beverly (1:25:29 AM): but its hard cuz i really liek them both
spies4Beverly (1:25:34 AM): and i dont think i can even vote for them
spies4Beverly (1:25:37 AM): at least not this soon
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spies4Zander (1:26:05 AM): Yeah he didn't tell any of us he had so many allies
spies4Zander (1:26:19 AM): I do suspect Ralph, but I obviously can't vote for him, so I have to find something else to go on
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spies4Beverly (2:16:06 PM): hi zander!!
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spies4Beverly (4:49:41 PM): hiii zander
spies4Zander (4:49:50 PM): Hey Bev
spies4Beverly (4:50:00 PM): how are things
spies4Zander (4:50:32 PM): Things are going okay, how about you?
spies4Beverly (4:50:56 PM): im ok a bit confused
spies4Beverly (4:50:59 PM): its like martha hasnt left lol
spies4Beverly (4:51:23 PM): im trying to figure out wth to do because i dont want us to exile the wrong person but its hard to figure out the right person..
spies4Zander (4:51:49 PM): lol, yes I agree
spies4Zander (4:51:56 PM): I'm sorry to cut you short but you caught me right before I was about to head out
spies4Zander (4:52:02 PM): I'll have to talk to you later. Sorry!
spies4Beverly (4:52:02 PM): o its ok babes
spies4Beverly (4:52:05 PM): we will talk later
spies4Beverly (4:52:09 PM): ok see u sexyy <3
spies4Zander (4:52:58 PM): see ya!
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I like how useless Beverly is because she never suspects me. Hoorah!

[Zander]

spies4Zander (1:02:46 PM): Hey
spies4Masaki (5:23:06 PM): Hey

Auto response from spies4Zander (5:23:06 PM): Back in a few hours, hopefully

spies4Zander (8:32:01 PM): Hey
spies4Masaki (8:32:13 PM): Hey
spies4Masaki (8:32:19 PM): Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier
spies4Zander (8:32:21 PM): Ha, we're finally on at the same time
spies4Zander (8:32:22 PM): No worries
spies4Zander (8:32:27 PM): How have things been going?
spies4Masaki (8:32:50 PM): Not too shabby
spies4Masaki (8:32:52 PM): How about you?
spies4Zander (8:33:29 PM): I think they've improved recently, so yeah I'm doing well
spies4Zander (8:33:32 PM): Happy I'm still around
spies4Masaki (8:34:47 PM): I wonder what was up with that delay.
spies4Zander (8:35:07 PM): Probably Sam pretending to have a life, haha!
spies4Masaki (8:35:09 PM): I don't think it was because Sam didn't have time to get to it -- he was online and about ready to have us do our challenge but we rescheduled because Naomi wasn't around
spies4Zander (8:35:13 PM): *just kidding*
spies4Zander (8:35:27 PM): hmm...
spies4Zander (8:36:17 PM): That actually does seem pretty weird
spies4Zander (8:39:07 PM): So have you thought at all about the coming exile?
spies4Zander (8:39:18 PM): The votes seem like they're going to be ridiculously scattered.
spies4Masaki (8:39:36 PM): I agree, there doesn't seem to be any working together this time around.
spies4Masaki (8:39:39 PM): As for myself,
spies4Masaki (8:39:45 PM): I think I'm giving Ralph a pass this episode.
spies4Masaki (8:40:10 PM): I want to see what he's up to, because he seems like he's horribly inconsistent and causing a lot of misinformation, but I'm not so sure he's doing it on purpose.
spies4Masaki (8:40:25 PM): So I told him I'd give him a bit of time so I could watch him.
spies4Masaki (8:40:38 PM): Other possibilities, though, are people like Beverly, Candy, or Gordy.
spies4Masaki (8:40:48 PM): Then there are the lurkers, like Emma and Glory
spies4Masaki (8:41:05 PM): The problem is I haven't had much opportunity to talk to some of them, so I haven't really been able to decide yet what I am going to do
spies4Masaki (8:41:13 PM): But I have till tomorrow.
spies4Zander (8:41:28 PM): Even tonight I talked to him and he was inconsistent, but I can't vote for him and I find other people to be kinda suspicious
spies4Masaki (8:41:29 PM): And, being completely honest, you've never even bleeped my scum radar.
spies4Masaki (8:41:35 PM): That's not me sucking up
spies4Zander (8:41:47 PM): Thanks. I actually think the same about you
spies4Masaki (8:42:00 PM): Especially reading that log Lloyd posted, Ralph was definitely in the wrong there.
spies4Masaki (8:42:19 PM): If you were lying, Ralph OR Gordy would have called you out on your log's inconsistency.
spies4Zander (8:42:37 PM): You and Singe are the two people I absolutely don't suspect in this game, and I think you guys are going to be a great help to us if you stay in the game
spies4Zander (8:42:55 PM): I'm just so mad at Ralph for the whole thing, and I think he looks like an idiot, treating the game more like survivor than anything else
spies4Zander (8:43:13 PM): I talked about it tonight and I'm not as mad at him anymore, but it was still a dumb move that wound up putting my whole family in danger
spies4Zander (8:43:27 PM): I mean, I apologize if I think I know someone's identity, but I didn't use it or anything, so I don't know why he ran with it
spies4Zander (8:43:39 PM): He is just so counterproductive that I can't help but think something's up
spies4Zander (8:43:52 PM): and he said if we win the challenge he demands the mystery prize. Now part of me wants to take it just to keep it safe from him
spies4Zander (8:44:05 PM): Why isn't he afraid of being Imprisoned or Exiled?
spies4Masaki (8:44:06 PM): Compromise and give it to Gordy
spies4Masaki (8:44:31 PM): Oh, wait,
spies4Masaki (8:44:33 PM): I see what you're saying
spies4Masaki (8:44:41 PM): But I owuld probably choose the mystery prize myself
spies4Masaki (8:44:49 PM): Imprisonment immunity seems pointless
spies4Masaki (8:44:54 PM): the Spies can just pick someone else
spies4Masaki (8:45:11 PM): It won't really benefit the game as a whole
spies4Zander (8:46:50 PM): But what if the spies didn't find out who chose what?
spies4Zander (8:47:09 PM): That's why I would hope to do, especially if no spies exist in my family
spies4Zander (8:47:18 PM): But of course I'm probably being hopeful again.
spies4Masaki (8:47:27 PM): Well that's the thing
spies4Masaki (8:47:30 PM): I thought the same thing myself
spies4Zander (8:47:31 PM): I'm always worried about being eliminated though, I'm just surprised that he isn't
spies4Masaki (8:47:41 PM): That an imprisonment immunity was like a doc protection
spies4Masaki (8:47:46 PM): But apparently it's not
spies4Zander (8:47:48 PM): It seems like he didn't think about it, he just KNEW what he wanted
spies4Zander (8:48:07 PM): I don't even know if we will win. Singe and Kip are really smart so their family probably won
spies4Masaki (8:48:10 PM): An immunity just prevents someone from being chosen for imprisonment. At least, that is how Sam had it setup last season
spies4Masaki (8:48:33 PM): My family won't win
spies4Masaki (8:48:41 PM): Leon didn't show
spies4Masaki (8:48:46 PM): And Martha is exiled.
spies4Zander (8:49:17 PM): wow
spies4Zander (8:49:23 PM): I showed up late but I really hauled ass to try and win
spies4Zander (8:51:26 PM): Did Sam say results tonight?
spies4Masaki (8:51:45 PM): He said he'd post ours later
spies4Zander (8:52:35 PM): ah
spies4Zander (8:52:39 PM): Well good luck
spies4Masaki (8:53:15 PM): Luck won't help ;-)
spies4Zander (8:53:41 PM): Actually it might
spies4Zander (8:54:09 PM): We're not supposed to give hints, but stay calm. If you get freaked out or rush, you're going to overlook stuff probably
spies4Zander (8:54:19 PM): I don't find that be a hint, more like... words of wisdom haha
spies4Masaki (8:54:21 PM): We already did ours
spies4Zander (8:54:28 PM): Ooooooh. I thought you said it got delayed?
spies4Zander (8:54:34 PM): That's why I said good luck :-P
spies4Masaki (8:54:34 PM): It got delayed from yesterday
spies4Zander (8:54:40 PM): *Is really really slow today*
spies4Masaki (8:54:43 PM): ah, I thought you meant good luck on the results
spies4Zander (8:54:46 PM): I've been up for a really long time, haha
spies4Zander (8:54:47 PM): well that too!
spies4Masaki (8:54:50 PM): Hehe
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Ah, the ever elusive Masaki. I can't believe people have no real problem with me trusting you to be a citizen, except Angelica, and she's a spy! Haha!!!

Anyway, thanks for not contributing anything too amazing and most importantly, not suspecting me!

[Zander]

spies4Summer (11:11:15 PM): Are you voting for me, Zander?
spies4Zander (11:11:24 PM): I have no reason to
spies4Zander (11:11:31 PM): We don't talk much but I don't think you're a spy lol
spies4Summer (11:11:38 PM): Thanks Zander
spies4Summer (11:11:42 PM): I'm sorry to be so straight forward
spies4Summer (11:11:55 PM): I'm just worried after reading the burg posts made today
spies4Zander (11:12:01 PM): No, it's not a problem. I understand your position, and after the Lloyd drama I should probably be doing the same myself
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spies4Zander (11:33:14 PM): Hey Summer
spies4Summer (11:33:35 PM): Hi Zander
spies4Summer (11:33:37 PM): How are you?
spies4Zander (11:33:59 PM): I'm doing well, but I missed exile and now I have no clue what's going on
spies4Zander (11:34:00 PM): how are you?
spies4Summer (11:34:34 PM): I'm good
spies4Summer (11:34:37 PM): Tired from all of tonight
spies4Summer (11:34:46 PM): And we're not any closer to figuring anything out
spies4Summer (11:34:49 PM): Which sucks
spies4Zander (11:34:58 PM): What happened?
spies4Zander (11:35:07 PM): I'm guessing the person that left was a citizen...
spies4Summer (11:35:13 PM): She voted herself out
spies4Summer (11:35:18 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (11:35:24 PM): No one got their way
spies4Summer (11:35:34 PM): Which means that the vote might be even more chaotic next time
spies4Summer (11:36:10 PM): Where were you?
spies4Zander (11:37:38 PM): I had a bunch of meetings
spies4Summer (11:38:13 PM): Productive ones, I hope
spies4Summer (11:39:39 PM): It was Grace, by the way
spies4Zander (11:40:40 PM): Ah I was about to ask that
spies4Zander (11:40:50 PM): None of my meetings are ever productive, haha
spies4Zander (11:40:52 PM): just long and boring
spies4Summer (11:41:39 PM): Exile wasn't!
spies4Zander (11:42:56 PM): Did anything else happen/
spies4Summer (11:43:29 PM): There was a mystery vote
spies4Zander (11:43:50 PM): ?
spies4Zander (11:44:04 PM): Is Martha back from the dead lol
spies4Summer (11:44:27 PM): That is an option I have not considered
spies4Zander (11:45:56 PM): I was joking, I surely hope not
spies4Summer (11:46:11 PM): Well whoever it was voted for Kip
spies4Summer (11:46:31 PM): Well the person who you wanted to leave left
spies4Summer (11:46:34 PM): You must be happy about that
spies4Zander (11:46:52 PM): Slightly, but what I'm not happy about is I was the first person to mention it in the burg and apparently a bunch of people just bandwagoned off of me
spies4Summer (11:47:00 PM): No
spies4Summer (11:47:02 PM): Just one
spies4Zander (11:47:07 PM): From what I seemed to gather, nobody even thought about Grace until I mentioned it
spies4Summer (11:47:08 PM): And I don't even think he bandwagoned
spies4Zander (11:47:11 PM): who was it?
spies4Summer (11:47:13 PM): Johan
spies4Summer (11:47:19 PM): You were the only two to vote Grace
spies4Zander (11:47:24 PM): I almost voted for him, that's pretty freaking weird
spies4Zander (11:47:31 PM): I heard there was a blindside against Madison
spies4Summer (11:47:45 PM): Yes she got the highest number of actual votes
spies4Summer (11:47:49 PM): But she knew it was coming
spies4Summer (11:47:50 PM): Sort of
spies4Zander (11:48:12 PM): *sigh*... I truly don't suspect her I'm sad Grace wasn't a spy, but I'm glad that Madison didn't go then
spies4Summer (11:48:55 PM): It was pretty cool
spies4Summer (11:49:00 PM): They were trying to bully her
spies4Summer (11:49:04 PM): And she wasn't having any part of it
spies4Summer (11:49:21 PM): I can't remember exactly what she said
spies4Zander (11:49:42 PM): I don't blame her
spies4Zander (11:49:44 PM): who did you vote for?
spies4Summer (11:49:54 PM): I voted for Hannah
spies4Zander (11:50:14 PM): Did she gather a lot of votes? Do you knwo the final tally?
spies4Summer (11:50:20 PM): Yes I know the final tally
spies4Summer (11:50:29 PM): Jeremiah and I kept the tally during the vote reading
spies4Summer (11:50:49 PM): Voted for Jeremiah: Candy
spies4Summer (11:50:54 PM): Voted for Hannah: Summer, Bunni, Beverly, Leon
spies4Summer (11:51:03 PM): Voted for Beverly: Damon, Madison, Cain
spies4Summer (11:51:19 PM): Voted for Kip: Emma, Ralph, mystery, Abrams
spies4Summer (11:51:28 PM): Voted for Madison: Hannah, Angelica, Lloyd, Naomi, Jeremiah, Faizah
spies4Summer (11:51:40 PM): Voted for Grace: Johan, Zander, self votes
spies4Summer (11:51:47 PM): Voted for Naomi: Gordy
spies4Summer (11:51:55 PM): Voted for Gordy: Masaki, Kip
spies4Summer (11:52:02 PM): Voted for Cain: Adelaide
spies4Summer (11:52:16 PM): Johan: 2 self votes
spies4Summer (11:52:29 PM): Singe: Self votes
spies4Zander (11:52:38 PM): did Johan not post conversations?
spies4Summer (11:52:40 PM): Right
spies4Zander (11:52:42 PM): And why would Singe self vote?
spies4Summer (11:52:58 PM): Sam said right afterwards that he thinks Singe just forgot
spies4Summer (11:53:00 PM): Not forgot
spies4Summer (11:53:05 PM): Meant to but didn't come back to the computer
spies4Zander (11:53:08 PM): ahh
spies4Summer (11:53:14 PM): He'll post the full chat and you can see it there
spies4Summer (11:53:21 PM): I was like Why Singe why?
spies4Zander (11:53:53 PM): I agree...
spies4Zander (11:53:59 PM): But at least it didn't really effect the exile
spies4Summer (11:54:06 PM): Grace had that taken care of
spies4Zander (11:54:08 PM): I am surprised how quickly people changed
spies4Zander (11:54:20 PM): Grace and Kip seemed to have huge amounts of support and then a bunch of people flopped
spies4Summer (11:54:24 PM): No one knew what was going on
spies4Summer (11:54:41 PM): Lloyd and Jeremiah pushed the Madison vote hardcore to the people who were in chat
spies4Summer (11:54:48 PM): A bunch of people didn't show up tonight, so their votes stuck
spies4Summer (11:54:53 PM): Like Adelaide, Kip, etc.
spies4Summer (1:07:48 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (1:07:50 AM): Yeah it's yours
spies4Summer (1:07:52 AM): Enjoy it
spies4Zander (1:08:08 AM): woo@
spies4Zander (1:08:09 AM): haha
spies4Summer (1:08:34 AM): Johan and Zander sitting in a chat ...
spies4Zander (1:09:45 AM): n-o-t doing an-y-thing
spies4Summer (1:09:56 AM): That does not rhyme
spies4Zander (1:10:04 AM): umm...
spies4Summer (1:10:05 AM): And I don't believe you anyway
spies4Zander (1:10:10 AM): Johan has a funny hat?
spies4Zander (1:10:15 AM): We're really not talking at all haha
spies4Summer (1:10:16 AM): *Giggle* I like that!
spies4Summer (1:10:28 AM): Zander, you don't need to keep any secrets from me
spies4Summer (1:10:35 AM): I won't post details of your tryst all over the burg
spies4Summer (1:10:39 AM): (Tonight)
spies4Summer (1:11:42 AM): So how do you think this game will end before Thanksgiving?
spies4Zander (1:11:57 AM): Haha, I don't
spies4Zander (1:12:28 AM): But I have to give it to Sam, the twist sure is something new. It's basically going to suck though
spies4Summer (1:12:44 AM): It's a great idea
spies4Summer (1:12:56 AM): You don't think it will work to our advantage?
spies4Zander (1:13:01 AM): Not the idea, but trying to eliminate all of the spies
spies4Zander (1:13:04 AM): Well, it could and it couldn't
spies4Zander (1:13:23 AM): Knowing that they could essentially work together to eliminate the citizen threat first, could probably work in their favor
spies4Zander (1:13:37 AM): Do they all know each other?
spies4Summer (1:13:57 AM): No
spies4Summer (1:14:06 AM): That's part of the twist
spies4Summer (1:14:11 AM): They have to eliminate the other set of spies to win
spies4Summer (1:14:19 AM): Including imprisonment
spies4Zander (1:14:26 AM): Wait they can imprison each other?
spies4Zander (1:14:28 AM): Holy shit
spies4Summer (1:14:37 AM): Yeah, isn't that great?
spies4Zander (1:14:55 AM): So if they don't know who the other spies are they could accidentally imprison one... That's freaking genius
spies4Summer (1:15:00 AM): Not accidentally
spies4Zander (1:15:01 AM): we might not be at such a loss afterall then
spies4Summer (1:15:02 AM): They have to anyway
spies4Summer (1:15:10 AM): Let's say you're in one group of spies and I'm in the other
spies4Summer (1:15:21 AM): I want to eliminate all the citizens AND all of your spies on your team
spies4Summer (1:15:44 AM): I guess it could be considered an accident, but it all depends on what they want
spies4Summer (1:16:00 AM): But it just makes the game harder in some ways
spies4Zander (1:16:22 AM): I think it makes the game harder for everyone, at least
spies4Zander (1:16:27 AM): it's not like we're the only ones that are screwed
spies4Zander (1:17:06 AM): It's going to be hard for anyone to win, and now like any evidence we receive and any information any shares could basically just not tell us anything
spies4Zander (1:17:23 AM): *anyone
spies4Summer (1:17:50 AM): Sure
spies4Summer (1:17:55 AM): Because spies need to avoid imprisonment
spies4Summer (1:17:56 AM): And exile
spies4Summer (1:17:59 AM): Just like all of us
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Haha, you're funny. Now you better think I'm a citizen since I acted totally naive, you funny little mannish woman, you!