Episode III Conversations

[Zander]

[Zander]

spies4Zander (2:23:20 AM): Hi Naomi
spies4Naomi (2:23:34 AM): oh hi zander
spies4Naomi (2:23:39 AM): er, magic boy
spies4Naomi (2:23:39 AM): lol
spies4Zander (2:23:56 AM): I prefer Zander :-P
spies4Zander (2:23:58 AM): how have you been?
spies4Naomi (2:24:54 AM): good
spies4Naomi (2:26:09 AM): playing an old adventure game I downloaded illegally on illegal software. It was only the CD image, not the actual already-installed files. So I got some software in which I could mount the image to an imaginary CD drive and install and play.
spies4Naomi (2:26:25 AM): I bought the game originally, just lost the discs
spies4Naomi (2:26:34 AM): that was my evening, lol
spies4Naomi (2:26:36 AM): you?
spies4Zander (2:27:17 AM): haha! I actually downloaded an emulator and enjoy playing my favorite video game of all time on it sometimes
spies4Zander (2:27:32 AM): Anyway, my evening consisted of a lovely and ridiculous 5 and a half hour meeting
spies4Naomi (2:27:37 AM): eww
spies4Naomi (2:27:39 AM): gross
spies4Naomi (2:27:47 AM): that's boring
spies4Zander (2:27:58 AM): And terrible
spies4Naomi (2:28:06 AM): so have you not been able to go about the burg?
spies4Zander (2:28:57 AM): I've tried to navigate it a bit over the last hour
spies4Zander (2:29:05 AM): To be honest, it's so hard to keep up with some things
spies4Zander (2:29:28 AM): And on a side note, do you know who keeps making these alternate accounts and acting like an asshole to you?
spies4Naomi (2:30:15 AM): Ha ha, no idea
spies4Naomi (2:30:19 AM): but I find it funny
spies4Naomi (2:30:24 AM): if you've seen my sig
spies4Zander (2:30:39 AM): Yeah I love the cats
spies4Naomi (2:30:46 AM): he he
spies4Zander (2:30:47 AM): I was going to comment on it but I didn't know if I should :-P
spies4Zander (2:31:02 AM): It was in Adelaide's random thread emporium, and I figured it'd be better to let those die since they're pointless
spies4Naomi (2:31:27 AM): well it's got a screenshot of one of those topics now, boldy proclaiming my 'twat' status
spies4Naomi (2:31:47 AM): honestly...some people just have too much time
spies4Zander (2:32:00 AM): Well they should start spending that time trying to do SOMETHING
spies4Zander (2:32:05 AM): I have a feeling it was someone like Candy
spies4Zander (2:32:22 AM): or maybe Beverly
spies4Naomi (2:32:48 AM): actually candy and I laughed pretty hard about it together
spies4Naomi (2:32:57 AM): she set me up with the sig sized image
spies4Naomi (2:33:13 AM): doubt it was her laughing at her own joke
spies4Zander (2:33:33 AM): It wouldn't surprise me though haha
spies4Naomi (2:33:38 AM): beverly...can she NOT type in all caps? If she can, it was probably her
spies4Zander (2:33:46 AM): She loves talking about herself so much that her contributing to her own joke seems fitting
spies4Zander (2:33:55 AM): Everytime she talks to me, it's caps off
spies4Zander (2:34:01 AM): she says she's "Shy around me"
spies4Zander (2:34:11 AM): It'd be nice if she stopped playing up to her character though
spies4Naomi (2:34:34 AM): she never does that to me
spies4Naomi (2:34:38 AM): ok, take that back
spies4Zander (2:34:46 AM): Apparently I'm the only one I guess, cause she's flirting
spies4Naomi (2:34:47 AM): she rambled on about how popular we were
spies4Zander (2:34:51 AM): haha
spies4Naomi (2:35:08 AM): so I guess I was wrong. But we talked game stuff too...I think?
spies4Naomi (2:35:09 AM): lol
spies4Zander (2:35:44 AM): Wow, I'm impressed. Beverly only talks to me to tell me people made her upset and now she hates them, pretty much
spies4Naomi (2:36:03 AM): I was referring to candy, lol
spies4Naomi (2:36:19 AM): I guess we got mixed up
spies4Naomi (2:36:23 AM): beverly HATES <E
spies4Zander (2:36:24 AM): ah! lol yeah
spies4Zander (2:36:33 AM): I was talking about Bev, sorry
spies4Naomi (2:36:40 AM): ok, that makes sense
spies4Naomi (2:37:25 AM): anyway, I wish things weren't so difficult around here
spies4Naomi (2:37:38 AM): we're already four down with no luck.
spies4Naomi (2:38:31 AM): so now it's literally all skill, and people all have their webs you know?
spies4Zander (2:39:24 AM): I don't even know if it's all skill to be honest
spies4Zander (2:39:44 AM): we're going to have to rely on luck, mostly, by people slipping up or just making it obvious that they're spies
spies4Zander (2:40:04 AM): No matter how much "skill" one has, it takes things like that evidence compilation to catch a spy, really
spies4Naomi (2:42:05 AM): yeah...
spies4Naomi (2:42:15 AM): but skill still has a place
spies4Naomi (2:42:25 AM): you have to know who to watch obviously
spies4Zander (2:43:28 AM): Well, yeah, but some of that is gut as well
spies4Zander (2:43:41 AM): I don't know, I hate talking about that aspect of catching spies because everyone always has a different opinion
spies4Zander (2:44:31 AM): So who are you keeping your eyes on most, if I can ask?
spies4Naomi (2:47:36 AM): Sure. Well for a very minor reason, johan. Gordy hurt my feelings, but it's not a big deal. Madison tried way to hard to save herself last exile, pretty strange.
spies4Naomi (2:47:50 AM): So mainly madison.
spies4Naomi (2:48:01 AM): I try to keep my eyes open though
spies4Naomi (2:48:24 AM): how about you? Or would you rather discuss mine?
spies4Zander (2:48:41 AM): I didn't get to read Madison's defense, but I'm sticking to my guns - I really really am not suspicious of her
spies4Zander (2:49:00 AM): As for me, I'm trying to keep my eyes closest on people like Candy and Summer
spies4Zander (2:49:15 AM): I know there are a lot more spies out there but I'm almost convinced that at least one of those two is a spy
spies4Naomi (2:49:22 AM): Ok I will give you this: Candy says som weird things sometimes
spies4Naomi (2:49:40 AM): like what ralphs been talking about
spies4Naomi (2:49:45 AM): and what he showed me
spies4Zander (2:49:50 AM): I think Candy just doesn't contribute at all
spies4Zander (2:49:59 AM): She's quick to defend herself, but listlessly
spies4Naomi (2:50:38 AM): was candy going into a chat, and they were talking about something like...ah I don't know, but she completely just started to defend herself and her vote. No one even asked
spies4Naomi (2:51:06 AM): It was very strange of her to defend herself unprovoked.
spies4Naomi (2:51:30 AM): I just think it's hard for me to suspect those I trust...or at least talk to
spies4Naomi (2:51:44 AM): but maybe there's something more to that
spies4Zander (2:52:48 AM): No, I completely agree with that sentiment, and that could be why I don't suspect madison
spies4Zander (2:53:12 AM): I talk to Hannah a fair amount as well and some seem to suspect her, but I do not
spies4Naomi (2:53:30 AM): it's really hard to suspect the ones you like!
spies4Zander (2:53:32 AM): It's probably that we want to trust those that we have the closest ties with... Which is almost natural in a game like this
spies4Zander (2:53:47 AM): Yes, but unfortunately as the numbers dwindle, it's something you have to face as a reality
spies4Naomi (2:53:54 AM): yeah
spies4Zander (2:53:59 AM): At this point in time with so many spies out there, it's something you can try to ignore
spies4Zander (2:54:10 AM): but you should still try to keep an eye open toward everything
spies4Zander (2:55:01 AM): One thing to me is for sure : We'd be a lot better off without the drama
spies4Naomi (2:55:16 AM): who's causing drama?
spies4Naomi (2:55:18 AM):
spies4Zander (2:55:24 AM): Please tell me you are kidding
spies4Naomi (2:55:30 AM): lol yeah
spies4Zander (2:55:33 AM): whew
spies4Zander (2:55:41 AM): I was going to have to go beverly on you, if you weren't
spies4Naomi (2:55:59 AM): ZANDER IM SHOCKD UD THANK I WAS CAUSING DRAMA!!
spies4Naomi (2:56:06 AM): lmao
spies4Zander (2:56:07 AM): Apparently now I'm in a relationship with her? I just ignored it... If she wants to be weird and not focus on the game, then whatever
spies4Zander (2:56:19 AM): haha! AHHHH! It's beverly possessing Naomi's body!
spies4Naomi (2:56:38 AM): just proving a point that anyone can do that...
spies4Naomi (2:57:43 AM): Tired now, I'll talk to you later Zander. Summary of conversation: Watch everyone, even those you trust.
spies4Naomi (2:57:50 AM): Night!
spies4Zander (2:58:03 AM): See ya





NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!
NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!


WELL I WENT TO A CAMP AND WHAT DID I SEE?
A LADY IN THE KITCHEN SHE WAS LOOKING AT ME.
I ASKED MY FRIEND, SAID "WHO DAT BE?"
AND THEY TOLD ME IT WAS NAOMI!


NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!
NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!


MY FRIENDS TOLD ME I HAD TO BE WAITER
I TOLD THEM I'D DO IT LATER
THEY SAID THAT IF I DIDN'T I HAD TO LEAVE
SO NOW I SPEND MY TIME WITH NAOMI!



NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!
NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!


WHEN I'M AWAY FROM CAMP AND I'M AT HOME
MY MAMA DOES THE COOKIN' ALL ALONE!
I'D RATHER BE AT CAMP WITH THE GOOD FOOD THERE
SO I HOPE NAOMI COMES BACK NEXT YEAR!



NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!
NAOMI, NAOMI, N-N-N-N-NAOMI!





Haha, sorry, we sing that song after campfires, it's about one of our really really old cooks who stopped working there after my first year on staff, and for some reason it popped into my head. I hope everyone reading this after the game (which will not be many people) gets some enjoyment from this



Anyway, IMO a great conversation... Nothing truly suspicious of eye raising. It's always smart to ONLY talk strategy, people seem to suspect you less afterwards, like Masaki...

[Zander]

spies4Zander (2:22:15 AM): I almost did something stupid tonight :-P
spies4Faizah (2:22:21 AM): oh god
spies4Faizah (2:22:22 AM): haha
spies4Faizah (2:22:22 AM): what
spies4Zander (2:22:52 AM): I was considering telling Hannah that I'm not worired about tomorrow night because Sam posted in my confessional that someone put me in a safe place and I'm immune from this weeks' imprisonment
spies4Zander (2:23:02 AM): Well 1. Imprisonment isn't tomorrow night
spies4Zander (2:23:10 AM): 2. I probably shouldn't mention that anyway lol
spies4Faizah (2:23:28 AM): Yea, and Hannah analyzes EVERYTHING
spies4Faizah (2:23:32 AM): so you have to be careful with that.
spies4Zander (2:23:35 AM): mmhmm
spies4Zander (2:23:39 AM): she still seems to trust me a lot
spies4Zander (2:23:42 AM): we have a common suspect in Summer
spies4Faizah (2:23:43 AM): But we are both on her good side, so thats good
spies4Faizah (2:23:43 AM): yea
spies4Faizah (2:23:46 AM): us too!
spies4Faizah (2:23:47 AM): rofl
spies4Zander (2:23:50 AM): haha!
spies4Faizah (2:24:11 AM): I really, really, REALLY think Gordy or Lloyd need to go this time Z.
spies4Zander (2:25:06 AM): Completely agree, after thinking harder, it's gotta be one of them
spies4Zander (2:25:09 AM): I just don't know which one...
spies4Zander (2:25:16 AM): I'm only reluctant because Gordy does NOT have much pull
spies4Zander (2:25:25 AM): Imprisoning Lloyd almost perfectly frames Madison
spies4Zander (2:25:30 AM): which makes us survive one extra exile at least
spies4Faizah (2:25:43 AM): Yea,but I almost think it is too obvious.
spies4Faizah (2:25:52 AM): But part of me thinks he is another spy....sooooo
spies4Faizah (2:25:53 AM): I am so torn.
spies4Faizah (2:26:02 AM): But I think Gordy would be perfect.
spies4Zander (2:26:06 AM): If Lloyd is a spy, I think Gordy is too
spies4Faizah (2:26:09 AM): Yep
spies4Zander (2:26:20 AM): You'd prefer Gordy, I'd prefer Lloyd, so maybe we should have Angelica make the decision :-P
spies4Zander (2:26:34 AM): Lloyd is just dangerous to keep in, regardless of his alignment
spies4Zander (2:26:47 AM): and I'm almost sure that he'll get me exiled in Week 4 if he gets rid of Madison now
spies4Faizah (2:27:02 AM): Lets do that then
spies4Faizah (2:27:06 AM): Let Angelica decide
spies4Faizah (2:27:09 AM): Lets make a thread for her
spies4Faizah (2:27:10 AM): hahaha
spies4Faizah (2:27:13 AM): Angelicas Choice.
spies4Faizah (2:27:17 AM): Allow me.
spies4Zander (2:27:47 AM): I love it, I basically just make her choose everything to do LOL!
spies4Zander (2:29:42 AM): I'm talking to Naomi now, and I'm scared.
spies4Zander (2:29:53 AM): Sometimes I wonder if it's best to not talk to people, just to give them no reason to have any evidence against you
spies4Faizah (2:30:37 AM): Thats what I do
spies4Faizah (2:30:41 AM): I only talk to a handfull of people
spies4Faizah (2:30:42 AM): lol
spies4Zander (2:31:14 AM): I've basically stopped talking to Singe
spies4Faizah (2:31:19 AM): omg
spies4Faizah (2:31:22 AM): Masaki IMd me tonight
spies4Faizah (2:31:25 AM): and was a total weirdo.
spies4Faizah (2:31:27 AM): he was like
spies4Zander (2:31:29 AM): I'm also going to take him off my trust list slightly. I feel like talking to him will totally incriminate me
spies4Faizah (2:31:31 AM): OMG I AM IN LOVE WITH BEV!
spies4Zander (2:31:35 AM): I'm replacing Singe with Hannah on my trust list
spies4Faizah (2:31:36 AM): You have to help me get her, etc etc
spies4Zander (2:31:38 AM): WHAT?! HAHA!!!
spies4Faizah (2:31:44 AM): hang on, I will show you.
spies4Zander (2:31:44 AM): That is not masaki haha
spies4Faizah (2:34:08 AM): damn I must not have saved it
spies4Faizah (2:34:14 AM): but yea, TOTALLY out of his character
spies4Zander (2:34:21 AM): that's insane...
spies4Faizah (2:34:30 AM): One good thing about us Z
spies4Faizah (2:34:33 AM): (totally off topic, sorry)
spies4Faizah (2:34:43 AM): but we do have a slight advantage over the set of 4 spies
spies4Faizah (2:34:52 AM): we get secret advantages AND we get to strike them first.
spies4Zander (2:34:58 AM): yep.
spies4Zander (2:35:00 AM): However...
spies4Zander (2:35:07 AM): We need to try to exile one BECAUSE
spies4Zander (2:35:11 AM): if they try to imprison one of us
spies4Zander (2:35:18 AM): they'll know that we're a spy
spies4Zander (2:35:23 AM): and that it didn't work
spies4Faizah (2:35:32 AM): Thats true
spies4Zander (2:36:19 AM): So I want Summer gone at exile, basically
spies4Zander (2:36:21 AM): sicne I think she's a spy
spies4Faizah (2:36:37 AM): that would be fab
spies4Zander (2:40:12 AM): Indeed
spies4Zander (2:40:17 AM): that way we protect you
spies4Faizah (2:40:27 AM): I just OWED her twice btw
spies4Faizah (2:40:31 AM): in her govt files
spies4Zander (2:40:34 AM): haha
spies4Faizah (2:43:36 AM): spies4hannah (2:40:54 AM): she seriously needs to go
spies4Faizah (2:41:05 AM): I think she is panicking
spies4hannah (2:41:06 AM): WAY TOO MANY DISCREPANCIES
spies4Faizah (2:41:06 AM): honestly
spies4Faizah (2:41:09 AM): Exactly
spies4hannah (2:41:09 AM): definitely
spies4Faizah (2:41:26 AM): only defending herself when she is completely in a corner
spies4Faizah (2:41:31 AM): I hope people catch on to this, and her.
spies4Faizah (2:41:38 AM): Talking to Zander...I almost think he feels the same
spies4Faizah (2:41:42 AM): But I dont want to push it yet.
spies4Faizah (2:43:46 AM): (hannah takes the bait perfectly.)
spies4Zander (2:43:54 AM):
spies4Faizah (2:46:34 AM): Its crazy
spies4Faizah (2:46:42 AM): I have actually convinced myself in my head I am a citizen.
spies4Faizah (2:46:42 AM): lol
spies4Faizah (2:46:57 AM): Its easier now that I can actually be imprisoned, but Inever thought I would get to that point
spies4Faizah signed off at 2:59:02 AM.



Good point, Faizah. Now that we can (eventually) be Imprisoned, it's a lot easier to play along!

[Zander]

spies4Zander (1:04:41 AM): Hey Hannah
spies4hannah (1:04:53 AM): hey zander
spies4Zander (1:05:08 AM): We haven't talked in a while, how have you been?
spies4hannah (1:05:27 AM): um, well there has been lots of drama.
spies4Zander (1:05:40 AM): with Beverly?
spies4hannah (1:05:41 AM): but i think i may have just discovered something potentially useful...
spies4Zander (1:06:09 AM): from the drama?
spies4hannah (1:06:31 AM): well actually something i was unaware of
spies4hannah (1:06:49 AM): i just discovered that it was in fact Adelaide that was trying to convince ppl to vote for me
spies4hannah (1:06:55 AM): and she said NOTHING to me
spies4Zander (1:07:10 AM): Hah! Wait, let me analyze this in about 4 seconds...
spies4Zander (1:07:18 AM): Adelaide posts in the burg about how we SHOULDN'T blindside people.
spies4Zander (1:07:25 AM): Then she tries to lead a vote against you on the day of exile?
spies4hannah (1:08:24 AM): yeah, and, just after i accused HER in the burg
spies4hannah (1:08:33 AM): i am hoping to see the log
spies4hannah (1:08:47 AM): oh wait beverly is now unsure who it wa...
spies4Zander (1:08:51 AM): Honestly, at this point I'm happy I voted Grace, nobody else that accumulated a bunch of votes was a serious suspect of mine.
spies4hannah (1:08:59 AM): lets let beverly get her head ogether
spies4Zander (1:09:13 AM): She seemed upset so I'm not surprised that she's confused
spies4hannah (1:09:38 AM): upset? now?
spies4hannah (1:09:41 AM): why?
spies4Zander (1:10:10 AM): Madison voted for her
spies4Zander (1:10:33 AM): She's also really nervous about Imprisonment apparently
spies4hannah (1:10:54 AM): i think a lot of ppl are
spies4Zander (1:11:11 AM): Yeah, that's a given lol
spies4Zander (1:11:21 AM): now even the spies should be worried about Imprisonment!
spies4Zander (1:11:41 AM): I don't really suspect Bev but I am interested that she wasn't worried about Imprisonment in the past, really
spies4Zander (1:11:42 AM): but now she is
spies4hannah (1:12:12 AM): apparently Summer was the one gunning for me
spies4Zander (1:12:34 AM): What is Summer's deal? She's all over the place
spies4hannah (1:13:47 AM): (7:11:19 AM) spies4Beverly: O IT WAS SUMMER
(7:11:22 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:20:18 PM): I think if she's a citizen, she's doing a lot of talking in the wrong places
(7:11:25 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:20:29 PM): I think she's pretending too
(7:11:29 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:21:11 PM): She also tag-teams a lot with someone I find suspicious
(7:11:47 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:22:24 PM): If I really wanted Kiysohi gone last round, for example, I could have voted for him
spies4Summer (5:22:25 PM): Well
spies4Summer (5:22:26 PM): I couldn't have
spies4Summer (5:22:29 PM): Because he was in my family
(7:11:49 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:22:35 PM): But you also have to save the people you trust
(7:12:11 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:22:47 PM): So it's double sided
(7:12:13 AM) spies4Beverly: spies4Summer (5:22:57 PM): Will voting Hannah result in someone I trust leaving this round?
(7:12:20 AM) spies4Beverly: THATS ABOUT IT FROM HER
(7:12:27 AM) spies4Beverly: MOST OF MY DECISION WAS I WAS VOTING
(7:12:29 AM) spies4Beverly: GRACE OR U
(7:12:36 AM) spies4hannah: but who am i apparently tag teaming with?
(7:12:40 AM) spies4Beverly: SHE DIDNT SAY
(7:12:59 AM) spies4hannah: well thats helpful. a lot of talking in the wrong places?
(7:13:08 AM) spies4hannah: that sounds like a made up reason if ive ever heard one
spies4Zander (1:14:49 AM): She contradicts herself in that chat, I find that interesting
spies4Zander (1:15:00 AM): And who are you tag teaming with that she suspects? lol
spies4Zander (1:15:07 AM): She makes claims that she doesn't back
spies4hannah (1:15:20 AM): and she has never even had a convo with me!
spies4Zander (1:15:41 AM): ?!
spies4Zander (1:15:54 AM): What a freaking bold move
spies4hannah (1:16:09 AM): yeah. that makes her look really suspect
spies4hannah (1:18:45 AM): i mean okay talking a lot can maybe make someone slightly suspicious
spies4hannah (1:18:54 AM): but ur being ur ONLY reason?
spies4Zander (1:19:49 AM): If she's not a spy, she's a stupid citizen
spies4hannah (1:19:59 AM): which is unhelpful to us anyway
spies4hannah (1:20:03 AM): what i think happend
spies4hannah (1:20:10 AM): is she realised she mite be going
spies4hannah (1:20:17 AM): and tried to save herself
spies4Zander (1:20:25 AM): I agree, I think she knew she coudl be in danger
spies4Zander (1:21:21 AM): Candy was smart for taking the immunity from exile
spies4hannah (1:21:29 AM): definitely
spies4Zander (1:21:30 AM): I think if she didn't, she would have been even more popular than Madison to go
spies4hannah (1:21:38 AM): yeah prob
spies4hannah (1:21:42 AM): Jeremiah wants her out
spies4Zander (1:21:57 AM): I don't really talk to Jeremiah but this is a place where I think I could agree with him
spies4Zander (1:22:04 AM): One, she offers nothing to the game
spies4Zander (1:22:13 AM): Two, she is critical to those who actually try to publicize helpful information
spies4Zander (1:22:25 AM): Three, she just seems suspicious and does nothing helpful
spies4hannah (1:22:26 AM): yeah, as other ppl are, like Bunni
spies4Zander (1:22:35 AM): True
spies4Zander (1:22:47 AM): So which is worse, a barely active person who doesn't help, or an active person who hurts
spies4hannah (1:27:38 AM): and its still under question whther an active person can actually 'hurt'
spies4Zander (1:28:10 AM): I would consider her blasting apart almost everything people post, hurting
spies4hannah (1:28:28 AM): okay yeah
spies4hannah (1:35:34 AM): so, ur top suspects right now if i may ask?
spies4Zander (1:36:47 AM): I'm thinking somewhere between Candy/Summer, and possibly even Emma
spies4Zander (1:37:22 AM): As far as some more active players though, I don't think eyes should be taken off of Adelaide or Damon
spies4Zander (1:37:40 AM): It would help if I had a general idea of how the spies were playing
spies4hannah (1:37:54 AM): damon? why??
spies4Zander (1:38:36 AM): I just think people are clearing him way too easily - just because he was replaced does not make him a spy. In fact, the fact that Kiyoshi was expelled but Damon was not makes me more suspect to the fact that he coudl be a spy
spies4Zander (1:38:45 AM): I'm just not going to clear him when others will, it's not a smart idea.
spies4hannah (1:39:40 AM): yeah i suppose
spies4hannah (1:39:45 AM): but the argument against that is
spies4hannah (1:40:04 AM): that if u were a spy would u really have just said, okay i dont want to play anymore?
spies4Zander (1:40:50 AM): Everyone seems hung up on that though... We can't rule that out as a possibility
spies4hannah (1:41:01 AM): no i am not saying we cant
spies4hannah (1:41:09 AM): just that there is that argument
spies4Zander (1:41:17 AM): Because if we convince ourselves that Damon is a citizen because of that and he gets to the end of the game and we find out he's a spy, then we banked on incomplete assumption
spies4Zander (1:41:26 AM): No, I know, but some people are accepting that as full truth
spies4hannah (1:41:39 AM): well nothing is full truth in this game
spies4Zander (1:42:58 AM): Try telling that to some people
spies4Zander (1:43:08 AM): I've seen the term 100% thrown around so much so far
spies4Zander (1:43:13 AM): That kind of stuff will make us lose
spies4hannah (1:44:28 AM): when was it thrown around?
spies4Zander (1:44:43 AM): I have some chat logs but if I recall Ralph and Lloyd have both used it
spies4Zander (1:44:48 AM): I'm sure other people have as well
spies4Zander (1:47:25 AM): How about your suspicions?
spies4hannah (1:47:57 AM): um, naomi, summer, jeremiah, leon
spies4hannah (1:48:02 AM): i think
spies4hannah (1:48:06 AM): nothing concrete really
spies4Zander (1:48:15 AM): I have barely talked to all 4 of those haha
spies4Zander (1:48:48 AM): I've talked to Summer the most out of all of them, but she doesn't seem to have too much to tell or say
spies4hannah (1:50:32 AM): yeah she seems to avoid game talk mostly in group chats,a dn ive never even had a convo with her
spies4hannah (1:50:34 AM): as i said
spies4Zander (1:50:56 AM): Seems you got Bev upset lol
spies4hannah (1:51:10 AM): didnt mean to
spies4Zander (1:51:23 AM): I know, she does take a lot personally
spies4hannah (1:54:02 AM): i spose in this game one really shudnt take anything personally
spies4Zander (1:54:57 AM): Beverly's vulnerability and rash decisions are hurting us, regardless of her alignment
spies4Zander (1:55:12 AM): if she's a citizen, she's not being productive. If she's a spy, acting so irrational makes her not seem like one
spies4Zander (1:55:38 AM): It's the perfect pre-game strategy to assume, regardless of your alignment, because peopel will basically never find a need to get rid of you.
spies4Zander (1:55:53 AM): Citizens wouldn't want to waste the exile and spies wouldn't want to waste the Imprisonment
spies4hannah (1:56:35 AM): hmm, ive never thought about it that way actually
spies4hannah (1:57:35 AM): but if ppl see thru that strategy, then surely one is then at risk?
spies4Zander (2:00:41 AM): Has anyone seen through the strategy yet?
spies4Zander (2:00:46 AM): Like honestly enough to risk Beverly's stay here?
spies4Zander (2:01:35 AM): I'd be willing to take this public if only I genuinely thought she was spy-like... But I just think of her as a neutral player to be honest.
spies4Zander (2:01:53 AM): And rather than incriminate her when I don't suspect her, why blow holes through her strategy, if that's even what it is?
spies4hannah (2:03:14 AM): hmm, yeah i see the dilemma. but yet u dont think she is helpful? which, on the boards, alot of the time she is not
spies4Zander (2:05:11 AM): Do you think she is helpful? I haven't seen her actually deduce anything...
spies4Zander (2:05:25 AM): I certainly don't find her that harmful, not in a way I do with Candy...
spies4Zander (2:05:39 AM): Ultimately I can't help but sympathize with her... I think she's just a bit confused, but at least she isn't caustic.
spies4hannah (2:05:49 AM): ralph suspects candy actually
spies4hannah (2:06:42 AM): (8:02:16 AM) spies4Ralph: i have no idea for me....i think Candy
(8:02:38 AM) spies4hannah: yeah could be. what are ur reasons tho?
(8:02:54 AM) spies4Ralph: hey quick to defend herself after lises imprisonment
(8:03:11 AM) spies4Ralph: and just her behavior i feel she is riding bevs coattails
(8:03:42 AM) spies4hannah: quick to defend herself after lise's imprisonment? what did she say?
(8:04:26 AM) spies4Ralph: she immediatly went into chat and said just to let u know i am a completly competitive person so i would enver imprison a team member before challenge and we werent even talking about exile or challenge
(8:04:56 AM) spies4hannah: kind of pre emptong suspicion, wow. u should post that in her govt file u know
spies4hannah (2:06:59 AM): but of course, he doesnt have the transcript....*bangs head against wal*
spies4Zander (2:09:01 AM): He asked me if I had it
spies4Zander (2:09:04 AM): I don't remember being there
spies4hannah (2:24:30 AM): good god i dont understand naomis posts sometimes
spies4hannah is away at 3:00:35 AM.



Oh Hannah, poor innocent, sometimes naive but oh so wise Hannah....



I truly hope you're a spy, because if you're not I feel so bad that you just let the spies play you so easily. It's really like committing murder while someone isn't expecting it.


JUST LIKE THIS, BIOTCH!

[Zander]

spies4Zander (2:10:52 PM): So can we talk about how much my attitude improved this past week? lol
Sorin the Seeker (2:11:29 PM): haha sure
spies4Zander (2:12:14 PM): I think last night I was just like, whatever, if I get eliminated then I get eliminated, but I really need to stop being a bitch and actually start playing the game... So I went on this half hour long tirade in my confessional updating everything haha
spies4Zander (2:13:29 PM): And I'm glad whoever picks people to be immune from Imprisonment trusts me... Maybe that can work to my advantage. But yeah, anyway, I didn't think me being a downer was fair to your game, and with the new twist (which is amazing, by the way), I have to start being more into things.
Sorin the Seeker (2:15:36 PM): haha I'm glad :-) yeah I read your confessionals, they were very good to read and there were tons of them
Sorin the Seeker (2:15:52 PM): looks like that whole doomed-to-be-exiled thing didn't pan out =) did you even get a vote? i forget
spies4Zander (2:15:54 PM): haha sorry about that
spies4Zander (2:16:02 PM): No I didn't! Isn't that awesome?
spies4Zander (2:16:19 PM): I love Lloyd for just playing basically how I did last season "I suspect you, but hey, let's do this bandwagon instead!"
Sorin the Seeker (2:16:55 PM): lol
Sorin the Seeker (2:17:58 PM): so it's 4v3vs17 now right?
Sorin the Seeker (2:18:12 PM): who do you think is the bigger threat at this point?
spies4Zander (2:19:07 PM): Definitely the 17
spies4Zander (2:19:19 PM): as long as we are smart and don't Imprison one of the others, I think we are basically good to go
spies4Zander (2:19:45 PM): It doesn't seem like any in my group are too serious of suspects, but I think that perhaps we can get the citizens to exile some of the other spies
spies4Zander (2:20:31 PM): And if we can hold onto the advantage of not being Imprisoned, then we should be in great condition
spies4Zander (2:21:05 PM): We can also use that extra vote to help frame other people, and I think that might be the most important thing going for us. but I do like the "unknown" advantages part, I wonder what they are
Sorin the Seeker (2:21:37 PM): i wouldn't get my hopes up too much haha
spies4Zander (2:21:50 PM): aw
Sorin the Seeker (2:21:59 PM): that "we can't be Imprisoned" thing does have (sort of) a downside though
spies4Zander (2:22:07 PM): But the advantages we have at this point, I think, does help us right now
spies4Zander (2:22:15 PM): True in that if they try to imprison us and can't, they know we're spies?
spies4Zander (2:22:46 PM): Oh, and I have a question - if one of them gets exiled, do we lose our advantages?
Sorin the Seeker (2:23:13 PM): yes
spies4Zander (2:23:28 PM): But we can still Imprison one another once?
Sorin the Seeker (2:23:36 PM): yep
spies4Zander (2:23:43 PM): Gotcha...
Sorin the Seeker (2:23:53 PM): it's tricky to balance
Sorin the Seeker (2:24:15 PM): unfortunately 3v3v howmany ever it was was too small and 4v4v however was too many
Sorin the Seeker (2:24:42 PM): so this is the best way it could work out
spies4Zander (2:24:43 PM): Yeah...
spies4Zander (2:24:49 PM): Its actually a really good idea though
spies4Zander (2:25:03 PM): I just laughed that no matter which season I'm playing, I'll always have to be hunting for spies
Sorin the Seeker (2:25:27 PM): haha
Sorin the Seeker (2:25:42 PM): at least you have trusted friends to help you find them =)
Sorin the Seeker (2:25:49 PM): well i guess you had that last game too and look how that worked out lol
spies4Zander (2:26:32 PM): haha!
spies4Zander (2:26:51 PM): Well at least this game I know they trust each other, unlike last game :-P
spies4Zander (2:26:59 PM): Can I ask how you figured out who would be in which spy group?
Sorin the Seeker signed off at 2:27:47 PM.
Sorin the Seeker signed on at 2:28:00 PM.
Sorin the Seeker (2:28:06 PM): oops my aim crashed i missed what you said last
spies4Zander (2:28:38 PM): spies4Zander (2:26:59 PM): Can I ask how you figured out who would be in which spy group?
Sorin the Seeker (2:28:58 PM): it is a mystery
spies4Zander (2:29:07 PM): ahhh :-P
spies4Zander (2:29:24 PM): Cause I love my group but I'm gonna be really really sad if Jack and Carrie are playing and they're spies and you didn't put me with them :-P
Sorin the Seeker (2:30:22 PM): haha
spies4Zander (2:33:17 PM): By the way, I love the Imprisonment flavor
spies4Zander (2:33:22 PM): It's really well written
Sorin the Seeker (2:33:40 PM): thank you :-)
Sorin the Seeker (2:34:04 PM): I spent like 25 minutes trying to think up a word that meant "someone who supports the official / established policy" lol
Sorin the Seeker (2:34:28 PM): i didn't get anywhere close until I saw "orthodoxy" which is as close as I could get
spies4Zander (2:34:53 PM): Haha
spies4Zander (2:34:59 PM): Conservatives? :-P
Sorin the Seeker (2:35:12 PM): you guys could have been the "Officialists" or "Federalists"
Sorin the Seeker (2:35:17 PM): haha yeah but that's politically loaded
Sorin the Seeker (2:36:11 PM): cause of that whole "one group supports the official church" and the "one group supports local customs" thing
spies4Zander (2:36:31 PM): ahh
Sorin the Seeker (2:36:41 PM): did you like your haunted house :-)
spies4Zander (2:36:45 PM): Yes
spies4Zander (2:36:55 PM): I was really happy that it was something I worked on :-P
Sorin the Seeker (2:37:10 PM): haha, I modeled that on haunted houses i made / did as a kid
spies4Zander (2:37:16 PM): awesome!
spies4Zander (2:38:02 PM): I have to figure out my weekly strategy lol
spies4Zander (2:38:17 PM): I figured out that it's better to try to plan ahead and than catch myself up like I did beginning of Week 2
Sorin the Seeker (2:38:37 PM): yeah that's not a bad idea
spies4Zander (2:45:43 PM): Random question: Do you think there will be any videos coming? :-P
Sorin the Seeker (2:46:21 PM): perhaps when i finish my 4-5 hours of daily regular work on the game and can squeeze in time to work on it :-)
Sorin the Seeker (2:46:38 PM): unless someone wants to make it for me =)
spies4Zander (2:46:41 PM): Sorry:-[
Sorin the Seeker (2:46:47 PM): i've had people do that for like... actually every other video haha
spies4Zander (2:46:56 PM): If I had any idea how to use Flash (I'm guessing that's how it works) I'd do it
Sorin the Seeker (2:47:06 PM): i think they use windows movie maker
Sorin the Seeker (2:47:10 PM): it comes default with windows
spies4Zander (2:47:18 PM): oh wow
spies4Zander (2:47:27 PM): I'm basically just interested in finding out if summer is really a man
spies4Zander (2:47:30 PM): that's all I want to know haha
spies4Zander (2:47:36 PM): not like, her real identity, just the picture
Sorin the Seeker (2:48:21 PM): lol
Sorin the Seeker (2:48:25 PM): the picture is a woman
spies4Zander (2:48:37 PM): Lies! lol it seriously looks like a crossdresser
spies4Zander (2:48:44 PM): Like Imagine came back
Sorin the Seeker (2:49:04 PM): maybe i should have picked out a different picture lol
spies4Zander (2:49:14 PM): I actually love it
spies4Zander (2:49:16 PM): it lets me tease her haha
spies4Zander (2:49:36 PM): Aw I get so sad when I reread my Imprisonment thread from Spies 3
Sorin the Seeker (2:50:43 PM): which one :-)
Sorin the Seeker (2:51:00 PM): 4 or 6?
spies4Zander (2:51:25 PM): 6 haha
spies4Zander (2:51:29 PM): I get really happy reading the 4 one




Sam It's always fun to be able to rant my ideas to the host, and there isn't one better than you, so I just enjoy getting to vent every now and then, especially since you probably know better than anyone what's going through my head.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (1:49:09 PM): Hey Masaki
spies4Masaki (1:49:16 PM): hey
spies4Zander (1:49:26 PM): How's it going?
spies4Masaki (1:49:55 PM): Not badly
spies4Masaki (1:50:02 PM): Just been thinking about the twist and how it alters things
spies4Zander (1:50:38 PM): Yeah, I picked a pretty bad exile to miss haha
spies4Masaki (1:50:52 PM): Yeah - it was quite a shock
spies4Zander (1:52:10 PM): Summer basically caught me up on everything though, so I didn't have to try to read through the whole thing
spies4Zander (1:52:19 PM): This does change the dynamic of the game a lot though
spies4Masaki (1:58:10 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (1:58:23 PM): I can see a lot of good things for us because of this
spies4Masaki (1:58:34 PM): Primarily, this means the Spy groups will try to target eachother before targetting us.
spies4Masaki (1:58:54 PM): So that also means we don't have to have people acting like idiots to avoid being imprisoned.
spies4Zander (1:59:00 PM): Not necessarily, they could try to collaborate - and it seems that they don't know who the other spies are, so their guess at who is a spy could be as good as ours
spies4Masaki (1:59:06 PM): But it makes it harder for us to catch Spies.
spies4Zander (1:59:17 PM): Yes, that's what I'm actually happy about. Now we can actually take information public and not really worry about Imprisonment as much
spies4Masaki (1:59:42 PM): I don't know how they'll try to work together if they can't communicate
spies4Masaki (1:59:59 PM): The Spy groups are more of a threat to eachother - they can't win while the other is in the game, so they'll be actively looking for eachother
spies4Masaki (2:00:07 PM): If they find out who another Spy is, they'll clip them sooner or later.
spies4Zander (2:00:30 PM): I would imagine it's easier to avoid fellow spies than citizens though - if they figure out who the other ones are, they may keep them around just knowing that eliminating the citizen threat could be more important
spies4Zander (2:00:35 PM): but I think the odds of this are kind of small
spies4Zander (2:01:05 PM): Figuring out who a spy is could make you look great if you exile them and they turn up as one. But now at the same time, even if someone does exile a spy, we can't even think they are a confirmed citizen for leading that
spies4Zander (2:01:17 PM): So it's basically like you can't trust people even when you should be able to...
spies4Masaki (2:01:18 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (2:01:24 PM): That's the downfall
spies4Masaki (2:01:37 PM): Another pro, though
spies4Masaki (2:02:01 PM): Is that we can have greater than a 50% chance of hitting a Spy during Exile while the game still runs
spies4Masaki (2:02:13 PM): If all 7 are alive, we can run until 9 players are alive
spies4Masaki (2:02:23 PM): That's a very high probability of hitting a Spy
spies4Zander (2:02:31 PM): Yeah, that's true
spies4Zander (2:02:51 PM): This is just going to be so hard for us to win now though haha
spies4Masaki (2:03:02 PM): It's going to be hard for all three sides ;-)
spies4Zander (2:03:16 PM): True...
spies4Zander (2:03:38 PM): When I heard 7 spies at first I thought that was way too high. But with the twist, I think it's definitely balanced for everyone in terms of difficulty
spies4Masaki (2:04:03 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (2:04:08 PM): It makes things interesting to say the least.
spies4Masaki (2:04:15 PM): And honestly,
spies4Masaki (2:04:22 PM): We don't have anything more to worry about ourselves
spies4Masaki (2:04:30 PM): But the Spies do
spies4Zander (2:04:32 PM): True. We're still trying to catch spies
spies4Masaki (2:04:40 PM): They have to worry about imprisonments
spies4Masaki (2:04:43 PM): We already had to deal with it
spies4Zander (2:04:44 PM): I was immediately looking for people who seemed to panic, but couldn't find anything
spies4Masaki (2:07:51 PM): The Spies seem to be working differently than last season
spies4Masaki (2:07:59 PM): But perhaps that's due to the schism
spies4Masaki (2:08:07 PM): Last time, they were very quiet
spies4Masaki (2:08:13 PM): The Burg was very quiet
spies4Masaki (2:08:17 PM): It's insane this time
spies4Zander (2:08:37 PM): That's a good point, but we have yet to see if that's actually going to help us catch them. I think it will
spies4Zander (2:09:25 PM): It just might take some time to get some progress though. We have to figure out what type of spy we're looking for first... Especially with this last vote, everyone seems all over the place
spies4Masaki (2:10:50 PM): What did you think about the Madison vote?
spies4Zander (2:11:16 PM): Honestly, I still do NOT think Madison is a spy and I thought her basically being blindsided was BS
spies4Zander (2:11:30 PM): Her being a target just seems too easy to me
spies4Masaki (2:13:56 PM): Good
spies4Masaki (2:13:59 PM): That's how I feel as well
spies4Masaki (2:14:39 PM): I tried arguing against the vote in the chat, but it didn't do much good
spies4Zander (2:16:33 PM): Lloyd is so stubborn
spies4Masaki (2:16:43 PM): Oh
spies4Masaki (2:16:46 PM): Last night
spies4Masaki (2:16:47 PM): He said,
spies4Masaki (2:17:06 PM): "IF MADISON IS A CITIZEN I WILL LET YOU ALL EXILE ME NEXT EXILE THAT IS HOW CERTAIN I AM"
spies4Masaki (2:17:16 PM): Pretty bold thing to say.
spies4Zander (2:18:54 PM): wow
spies4Zander (2:18:59 PM): Knowing Lloyd I doubt he meant it haha
spies4Zander (2:21:34 PM): Maybe people just voted for Madison cause they wanted to exile Lloyd! HAHA!
spies4Masaki (2:22:04 PM): That'd be funny ;-)




My "closest trusted ally" is an amoeba of boringness.

[Zander]

spies4Adelaide (2:37:04 PM): so ralph ye?
spies4Zander (2:37:24 PM): Oh my GOD. You should have just seen the chat I had with him
spies4Zander (2:37:30 PM): Masaki and Johan were there
spies4Adelaide (2:37:32 PM): What?
spies4Zander (2:37:36 PM): We both exploded at one another
spies4Zander (2:37:44 PM): And he basically incriminated himself even more
spies4Adelaide (2:37:54 PM): he made another mistake
spies4Adelaide (2:38:06 PM): telling people that lloyd is a spy then lloyd gets exiled lol
spies4Adelaide (2:38:20 PM): the great thing about this ralph situation is
spies4Adelaide (2:38:26 PM): if he turns out to be a citizen
spies4Adelaide (2:38:49 PM): we have plenty of other stuff to analyse
spies4Zander (2:39:13 PM): Let me send you the transcript in a PM... It's pretty much funny at how he reacts because he just throws things out there that have no substance. Like, he says "No" and then throws out false accusations which I have transcripts to prove that he's lying
spies4Zander (2:39:25 PM): He already said that he wants people to target me when he's exiled
spies4Zander (2:39:59 PM): I told him "Ralph, if you were being framed by the Lloyd Imprisonment, then SO WAS I."
spies4Zander (2:40:05 PM): but, he didn't really get that either
spies4Adelaide (2:40:41 PM): lmao hes such an idiotttt
spies4Adelaide (2:40:56 PM): he really messed up BIG time and keeps digging a hole for himself
spies4Zander (2:41:28 PM): The only reason anyone (and by anyone I mean like the two people that actually have) suspected me is because he tried to throw me under the bus to protect himself
spies4Zander (2:41:57 PM): So I just find him running around praying for people to exile me funny because i'm like 90% sure he's a spy
spies4Zander (2:42:17 PM): And it's his fault I ever seemed suspicious in the first place. I told him "Ralph, you brought all of this upon yourself"
spies4Zander (2:42:51 PM): I am allowed to send you a transcript of a chat, right? like one with more than just two people talking? or is that against the rules?
spies4Adelaide (2:43:05 PM): No u're defo allowed!
spies4Zander (2:43:12 PM): Great, I'm sending it right now
spies4Adelaide (2:43:20 PM): 99.9% sure!
spies4Adelaide (2:43:58 PM): jsut go it
spies4Adelaide (2:44:00 PM): *got
spies4Adelaide (2:44:06 PM): 99.9% sure ralph is a spy
spies4Zander (2:44:28 PM): I'm going to request that for right now you keep it to yourself though, because if I'm not allowed to send it then I'll get in trouble lol
spies4Adelaide (2:44:31 PM): YOU HELPED LEAD A BANDWAGON AGAINST SOMEONE WITH THE MAJORITY OF VOTES AND USED IT TO FRAME MADISON AND MYSELF TO SAVE YOUR OWN SKIN
spies4Zander (2:44:46 PM): You're already down that far? lol
spies4Adelaide (2:44:51 PM): ye thats all i talk about on my confessional
spies4Adelaide (2:45:00 PM): well i skipped to where ralph came in lol
spies4Adelaide (2:45:13 PM): oh wait hes there from the start
spies4Zander (2:45:22 PM): Yeahe he is
spies4Zander (2:45:25 PM): you skipped to where he left
spies4Zander (2:45:33 PM): He left right before I screamed at him one last time lol
spies4Adelaide (2:46:14 PM): spies4Ralph (1:51:57 PM): i honestly can not wait until sunday
spies4Adelaide (2:46:19 PM): doesnt even know that its friday
spies4Zander (2:48:15 PM): Ours is Sunday
spies4Adelaide (2:48:22 PM): awwww
spies4Adelaide (2:48:27 PM): the other on friday?
spies4Zander (2:48:29 PM): I don't know sam doesn't just do them in one day?
spies4Zander (2:48:30 PM): yeah
spies4Adelaide (2:48:48 PM): especially since one of them has already a given target
spies4Adelaide (2:48:52 PM): the other one needs more time
spies4Zander (2:49:28 PM): Yeah, I agree
spies4Zander (2:50:03 PM): Giving Ralph more time to "defend" himself doesn't make me feel good either
spies4Zander (2:50:40 PM): The only reason I'm worried a little bit is that if Ralph isn't a spy, then everyone is going to suspect me, and only because of the stupid identity thing
spies4Adelaide (2:50:50 PM): any1 who doesnt vote for him is off my christmas card list
spies4Zander (2:50:57 PM): hah!
spies4Adelaide (2:52:08 PM): gives us time to find out information
spies4Adelaide (2:52:10 PM): about the minors
spies4Adelaide (2:52:18 PM): but we need to use someobody who he doesnt hate
spies4Adelaide (2:52:38 PM): i amnt exactly his friend right now considering the stuff i say on the burg
spies4Zander (2:53:06 PM): Naomi told me last night that she is trying to make him dig an even deeper hole
spies4Adelaide (2:53:27 PM): i dont trust that girl at all
spies4Zander (2:53:57 PM): I just hate how he throws around empty accusations at people like me and Madison. How convenient to look at people in his house to put suspicion on. And the best part is, everything he's said about me has basically been a lie and I've been able to disprove it with proof
spies4Zander (2:54:01 PM): GOD he just gets me so mad
spies4Adelaide (2:54:31 PM): and his theories are so stupid
spies4Adelaide (2:54:43 PM): they wer so bad that it made me stop suspecting him for a while
spies4Adelaide (2:55:04 PM): he just seemed like a naive citizen
spies4Zander (2:58:14 PM): LMAO at your burg post!
spies4Adelaide (2:58:14 PM): One Citizen has decided the groups as they are.
spies4Zander (2:58:28 PM): Yeah I pointed that out last night :-P
spies4Zander (2:58:35 PM): I gotta go, talk to you later!
spies4Adelaide signed off at 3:02:59 PM.

[Zander]

(1:46:01 PM) You have just entered room "spies4stuff."
spies4Johan (1:46:12 PM): Greetings
spies4Ralph (1:46:24 PM): hello
spies4Masaki (1:46:28 PM): Johan, first encounter!
spies4Zander (1:46:32 PM): Hey guys
spies4Johan (1:46:53 PM): Yes! Very exciting
spies4Masaki (1:46:56 PM): Anyway, Ralph, like you said
spies4Masaki (1:47:01 PM): You thought you knew who picked the groups
spies4Masaki (1:47:13 PM): I admit I thought you lied about thinking you knew,
spies4Masaki (1:47:18 PM): But Gordy told me you thought it was him
spies4Ralph (1:47:28 PM): yes
spies4Ralph (1:47:40 PM): but i was wrong
spies4Masaki (1:47:47 PM): Well, what made you think that?
spies4Ralph (1:47:56 PM): i have my reasons
spies4Zander (1:48:11 PM): ...
spies4Masaki (1:48:42 PM): Which can't be anything detrimental if we know, considering you admit you were wrong, so why hold back?
spies4Zander (1:48:49 PM): I actually think it might have been someone in Kip's family, if I can be so bold
spies4Zander (1:48:58 PM): Take note they are the only family not separated in some way
spies4Masaki (1:49:22 PM): Mine isn't
spies4Masaki (1:49:24 PM): ;-)
spies4Zander (1:49:32 PM): Ah, nevermind! I can't believe I overlooked that
spies4Masaki (1:49:38 PM): Although one member is no longer with us
spies4Zander (1:49:41 PM): for some reason I thought Naomi was in my group
spies4Zander (1:49:51 PM): Well, same for Kip's family as well...
spies4Masaki (1:50:11 PM): True
spies4Zander (1:50:23 PM): But I would imagine whomever chose these groups probably had self-preservation on their mind so keeping themselves with their family is a smart move - it's votes you can't receive
spies4Ralph (1:51:06 PM): also anyone who put themselves im my group because it almost gaureantees safety
spies4Zander (1:51:19 PM): Pretty much
spies4Masaki (1:51:30 PM): Well
spies4Masaki (1:51:51 PM): They probably picked the groups before Lloyd called you out
spies4Ralph (1:51:57 PM): i honestly can not wait until sunday
spies4Zander (1:52:05 PM): why?
spies4Ralph (1:52:27 PM): i cant wait to see the faces of everyone when my indetitys revealed
spies4Ralph (1:52:43 PM): or hear the reactioons none the less
spies4Zander (1:53:23 PM): Well look on the bright side... I won't vote for you :-P
spies4Ralph (1:53:34 PM): lol
spies4Ralph (1:54:00 PM): what about if u had the chance lol
spies4Zander (1:55:10 PM): Well, considering the fact that you tried to turn something I said to you that really wasn't a big deal and you used it to try to make me look suspicious, and you tried to throw me and madison under the bus, and...
spies4Ralph (1:55:35 PM): lol.........
spies4Zander (1:55:38 PM): you consistently lied and contradicted what you told some in the purpose of self-preservation, all the while not making much sense and being Lloyd's #1 suspect right before his Imprisonment
spies4Zander (1:55:46 PM): ...
spies4Ralph (1:55:47 PM): honestly i still think u and madison are in the small spy group
spies4Zander (1:55:49 PM): Yeah, I guess so
spies4Zander (1:56:03 PM): And I honestly still think you're trying to frame us
spies4Ralph (1:56:07 PM): come on my honestly imprioning lloyd
spies4Ralph (1:56:20 PM): does that not even raise more of a red flag
spies4Zander (1:56:29 PM): Okay well Ralph, are you saying I would imprison Lloyd?
spies4Ralph (1:56:35 PM): yes
spies4Zander (1:56:39 PM): When I was right up there with you on his suspect list because of what you said/
spies4Ralph (1:56:40 PM): he knows ure identity
spies4Zander (1:56:42 PM): Are you kidding me?
spies4Zander (1:56:53 PM): And he didn't use it. Just like I didn't use his.
spies4Ralph (1:57:13 PM): but he knows it and he was gunning for madison which is one of ure bigger allies in this game
spies4Zander (1:57:24 PM): Madison is not one of my bigger allies, I just don't think she's a spy
spies4Ralph (1:57:35 PM): so therefore u had 2 reasons to imprison him
spies4Zander (1:57:38 PM): is Madison not one of your biggest allies as well, up until the point in time when you tried to get her exiled?
spies4Zander (1:57:50 PM): Clever, Ralph, very clever. Try to turn it on Zander once again
spies4Ralph (1:57:55 PM): i have never talked to madison\
spies4Zander (1:58:05 PM): Especially now that Lloyd's not here to point out your contradictions
spies4Ralph (1:58:09 PM): \im gone i know that i am just trying to get my suspicions out there before i go
spies4Zander (1:58:16 PM): YOU'VE NEVER TALKED TO MADISON?!
spies4Ralph (1:58:19 PM): becasue WHEN i come up cit
spies4Zander (1:58:20 PM): Are you kidding me?!??!
spies4Zander (1:58:25 PM): Oh, this will be fun.
spies4Ralph (1:58:25 PM): i harldy ever have
spies4Ralph (1:58:32 PM): i have some but not a ton
spies4Zander (1:58:34 PM): Who wants a chat log?!
spies4Ralph (1:58:40 PM): I HAVE SOME FUCKER
spies4Ralph (1:58:50 PM): just not a ton
spies4Ralph (1:58:59 PM): i havent talked to her in last 4-5 days really
spies4Zander (1:59:33 PM): Day one, after identity reveal:
spies4Ralph (1:59:43 PM): I SAID NOT MUCH
spies4Zander (1:59:44 PM): spies4Ralph (11:48:43 PM): just to let u know i have to protect madison at all costs
spies4Masaki (1:59:44 PM): You folks need family therapy
spies4Zander (1:59:55 PM): spies4Ralph (11:49:37 PM): we got really close today i dont watn that to get out to much because i dont want targets on our backs but i trust u more than anyone in this game she has to stay safe
spies4Ralph (2:00:00 PM): things have defintetly changed since say one
spies4Zander (2:00:08 PM): Clearly.
spies4Ralph (2:00:13 PM): they have
spies4Ralph (2:00:32 PM): MASAKI WHEN I GO WATCH ZANDER U TO JOHAN
spies4Zander (2:00:40 PM): Because you found out you were a spy?
spies4Johan (2:00:46 PM): I watch everybody
spies4Ralph (2:00:49 PM): lol
spies4Zander (2:00:51 PM): Ralph, I'm not the one who incriminated you at all. YOU are the one who incriminated yourself
spies4Ralph (2:01:04 PM): we will se om sunday who is incriminated
spies4Johan (2:01:09 PM): But I understand that as a minor spy you are hoping to bring down major spies with you
spies4Ralph (2:01:27 PM): so honestly johan what would u think if i was not spy at all?
spies4Zander (2:01:52 PM): I can't read anything on that green background lol
spies4Johan (2:02:02 PM): I would be very confused..
spies4Ralph (2:02:06 PM): open ure fucking eyes dumbass
spies4Masaki (2:02:12 PM): Ralph
spies4Ralph (2:02:13 PM): prepare for confusion
spies4Masaki (2:02:21 PM): Realize that you have told me to watch over more people than there are spies
spies4Johan (2:02:33 PM): Ah, you too have this problem? You are not the only one, Zander, I will change it
spies4Ralph (2:02:37 PM): yeha well lloyd kinda got thrown out the window last night
spies4Zander (2:02:43 PM): I'm seriously done with this. Every time I try to talk to you Ralph, you just freak out and don't listen to common sense
spies4Ralph (2:03:02 PM): wewll sunday when ure common sense becomes bullshit we will see
spies4Zander (2:03:05 PM): If you're not a spy, I'll eat my freaking hat
spies4Ralph (2:03:14 PM): put some salt on it
spies4Zander (2:03:41 PM): So you don't agree that everything you've done is the reason why you're a suspect? Because every time I say that you just freak out and don't listen.
spies4Ralph (2:04:19 PM): i can see how ssome of my actions are suspicious but i tried to reveal my role to stop that and realize i am working for the good of the burgh but lloyd fucked that over
spies4Masaki (2:04:29 PM): Ralph
spies4Masaki (2:04:37 PM): Realize you were SOLD on Lloyd being a Spy
spies4Masaki (2:04:39 PM): You were wrong
spies4Zander (2:04:45 PM): If you actually tried to talk sense instead of being defensive and contradictory, maybe you wouldn't have dug your hole so deep. But after all you've done, I just can't believe that you're not a spy. And in the negative chance...
spies4Masaki (2:04:45 PM): How is that going to be any worse than us being wrong about you?
spies4Zander (2:04:56 PM): that you're not, you still aren't helping us make any progress
spies4Ralph (2:04:56 PM): that was after he did what he did with my role and then yes i realize i was wrong
spies4Johan (2:05:15 PM): Ralph, what did you not understand about your alleged role when you were given it? That to me is the most incriminating of all
spies4Ralph (2:05:17 PM): i have helped////
spies4Zander (2:05:39 PM): YOU HELPED LEAD A BANDWAGON AGAINST SOMEONE WITH THE MAJORITY OF VOTES AND USED IT TO FRAME MADISON AND MYSELF TO SAVE YOUR OWN SKIN
spies4Zander (2:05:42 PM): YOU LIED TO HALF THE BURG ABOUT IT
spies4Ralph (2:05:43 PM): its not that i didnt understand the role i didnt understand why sam would givve shuch a tole
spies4Zander (2:05:49 PM): HOW HAVE YOU HELPED?!
spies4Ralph (2:06:00 PM): FUCK ZANDER U HELPED LEAD THAT BANDWAGON FUCKING TOOOOOOOO
spies4Zander (2:06:23 PM): I was the only one who had evidence and reasons to vote Martha, and YOU told our family to vote with you and YOU called the vote for her
spies4Zander (2:06:33 PM): that was your call , Ralph, and I've posted proof of it in a chat log.
spies4Zander (2:06:42 PM): You had nothing to say for yourself, either.
spies4Ralph (2:06:49 PM): THAT WAS MY CALL AFTER U INSISTED
spies4Zander (2:06:55 PM): You defend yourself when you don't need to and you have nothing to say when the evidence is against you
spies4Zander (2:06:57 PM): I did not insist on anything
spies4Zander (2:07:04 PM): I was locked in on Kiyoshi all day
spies4Ralph (2:07:15 PM): revelations 21 8 liars got o hell
spies4Zander (2:07:22 PM): We followed your lead and you changed your story afterwards
spies4Zander (2:07:28 PM): just to make yourself not look as guilty
spies4Ralph (2:07:30 PM): fuck that
spies4Ralph (2:07:44 PM): all im saying is i am ready for sunday
(2:07:46 PM) spies4Ralph has left the room.
spies4Zander (2:07:49 PM): and why did you bring up the identity thing to lloyd? To take the focus off the fact that you pushed the vote for Martha, to stay in the majority and keep your eyes off yourself
spies4Zander (2:08:03 PM): Fucking spy
spies4Johan (2:08:24 PM): Yes, it does seem that way..
spies4Masaki (2:08:34 PM): his role makes no sense
spies4Masaki (2:08:46 PM): Being imprisoned would auto-lose him
spies4Zander (2:08:53 PM): Nothing about him makes sense. If he's not a spy I'm seriously going to shit myself.
spies4Johan (2:09:24 PM): Yes, if he is not a spy then we are truly lost right now...
spies4Johan (2:09:49 PM): His role has to be either made up or a contingency plan for the minor spy group, nothing else really makes sense.
spies4Zander (2:10:11 PM): contingency plan?
spies4Masaki (2:10:18 PM): Right
spies4Zander (2:10:30 PM): *Has no clue what that word means haha*
spies4Johan (2:11:06 PM): Lol, well, like a backup plan... If they have 1 less spy than the other group they would need alternate ways to outlast them
spies4Masaki (2:11:24 PM): Their crutch basically
spies4Masaki (2:11:47 PM): Unfortunately it looks like we have no insight to the major spy group
spies4Masaki (2:12:14 PM): With Ralph and his potential spy role gone, that group is half the thread the majors are
spies4Masaki (2:12:19 PM): threat
spies4Zander (2:12:38 PM): on the bright side your odds of catching one are statistically better than Group 2. Although since Ralph is 90%+ a spy, that number changes
spies4Johan (2:12:58 PM): Yes, that is saddening.. But if we may still get rid of that group it will still be beneficial as it buys us more time for the major group without exiling citizens
spies4Zander (2:13:07 PM): It's possible we could just eliminate all of the minor spies and then focus on the major group
spies4Masaki (2:14:06 PM): Problem is
spies4Masaki (2:14:14 PM): That gives the majors 100% control of imprisonment
spies4Masaki (2:14:25 PM): Meaning we lose a tool to destroy them
spies4Johan (2:14:38 PM): Yes, very true.. Perhaps to leave a minor spy would be very good for us
spies4Masaki (2:14:57 PM): Although
spies4Masaki (2:15:01 PM): I guess it does not matter
spies4Zander (2:15:11 PM): Do you guys know if all the minor spies are in one group and all the major spies are in another?
spies4Masaki (2:15:14 PM): If we know who the last minor is, the majors will also know
spies4Masaki (2:15:27 PM): You mean exile groups?
spies4Zander (2:15:30 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (2:15:35 PM): Not a clue
spies4Johan (2:15:58 PM): I think it is all random, that would be my guess if a citizen picked the sides
spies4Masaki (2:16:01 PM): I don't see how, if a citizen picked those groups
spies4Zander (2:16:15 PM): Yeah I agree. I just hadn't thought of it yet
(2:27:33 PM) spies4Masaki has left the room.
(2:35:41 PM) spies4Johan has left the room.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (11:37:55 PM): *Pulls a bunni out of his hat*
spies4Bunni (11:38:02 PM): heehee cute.
spies4Bunni (11:38:07 PM): what you up to?
spies4Zander (11:38:12 PM): Not too much, how are you doing?
spies4Bunni (11:39:05 PM): i'm good.
spies4Bunni (11:39:12 PM): i got a stupid test tomorrow morning though. ew.
spies4Zander (11:39:52 PM): That stinks
spies4Zander (11:40:03 PM): I just found out last night my friend passed away... I guess I win
spies4Bunni (11:40:36 PM): oh no.
spies4Bunni (11:40:40 PM): i'm so sorry. :-(
spies4Bunni (11:40:42 PM): what happened?
spies4Zander (11:40:44 PM): I guess it's not a big deal since I did not know him super super well, but I did hang out with him for a couple years and he was a really funny and nice kid
spies4Zander (11:40:48 PM): He got into a car accident
spies4Zander (11:41:07 PM): the same day that my friend went back home from college to visit her high school, saw him and gave him a hug
spies4Zander (11:41:12 PM): It's so odd...
spies4Zander (11:41:44 PM): I don't really know how to react to death, but I'm not totally broken up by it I guess
spies4Bunni (11:42:12 PM): oh dear. car accidents...
spies4Zander (11:42:20 PM): I haven't told anyone in the game because I don't want anyone to 1. Be a dick to me on purpose to see me be overly emotional or something, or 2. Accuse me of using that as an excuse of "laying low"... Many people in these games are somewhat insensitive sometimes
spies4Bunni (11:42:24 PM): i mena, they're so sudden and unexpected. it's shocking and hard to deal.
spies4Zander (11:42:32 PM): And I can't go to the funeral because I live too far away...
spies4Bunni (11:42:45 PM): oh, no. i would hope people wouldn't do that. that'd be awful.
spies4Zander (11:43:15 PM): I would hope so too, so I figure it's just better to not bring it up
spies4Bunni (11:45:47 PM): yeah.
spies4Bunni (11:46:05 PM): well, i am sorry for your loss. i'll be thinking about his family and friends. :-(
spies4Zander (11:46:17 PM): Thanks
spies4Zander (11:46:23 PM): I'm sorry to bring up such a solemn event :-P
spies4Bunni (11:49:00 PM): oh no. i'm a good listener.
spies4Zander (11:51:05 PM): Excuse me, I'm gonna step away for a few minutes. I'll talk to you later... Thanks for letting me open up a bit
spies4Bunni (11:53:11 PM): no problem. take care.

[Zander]

spies4Naomi (11:19:01 PM): well, you're a trusted member of the burg
spies4Zander (11:19:15 PM): I guess next Imprisonment I can kiss my ass goodbye then
spies4Naomi (11:19:32 PM): I'll tell you this: I'm going to draw a wee bit more info out of ralph before we can his ass
spies4Naomi (11:19:37 PM): I am pissed off
spies4Naomi (11:19:43 PM): LOL
spies4Naomi (11:19:58 PM): it's spies vs spies remember?
spies4Naomi (11:20:00 PM): ha ha
spies4Zander (11:20:20 PM): I don't even know what else there is to figure out. Ralph is clearly lying out of his ass, and trying to throw people under the bus.
spies4Zander (11:20:25 PM): Does it make him a spy? Very likely
spies4Zander (11:20:33 PM): Does it make him a bad player? Completely
spies4Zander (11:20:47 PM): Do I wish I could vote for him at exile? Oh hell yes
spies4Zander (11:21:22 PM): And even if it is Spies vs. Spies, look at Lloyd
spies4Naomi (11:21:38 PM): well, I'm just telling you, I'll post in the burg later. This is why there's a delay
spies4Zander (11:22:03 PM): In the tiebreaker passing?
spies4Zander (11:22:14 PM): Who are the trusted members of the burg then? Just you and Jeremiah? :-P
spies4Naomi (11:22:27 PM): no no no
spies4Naomi (11:22:52 PM): what the hell? no, I have to lead ralph on into thinking I believe him to get him to incriminate himself further
spies4Naomi (11:23:06 PM): he led me on this long, its MY turn
spies4Naomi (11:23:09 PM): I need that
spies4Naomi (11:23:13 PM): I feel violated
spies4Zander (11:23:20 PM): haha!
spies4Naomi (11:23:27 PM): yeah!
spies4Naomi (11:23:52 PM): anyway, i just wanted you to know that, if it ever comes up. Candy knows too
spies4Naomi (11:24:00 PM): she wants updates later lol
spies4Zander (11:24:16 PM): OKay so do I lol.
spies4Naomi (11:24:24 PM): alright
spies4Naomi (11:24:47 PM): ideally, he'll say something even more blatantly spyish, and I'll post it in lloyds thread
spies4Naomi (11:25:09 PM): or if it's really good, I'll make a new thread
spies4Zander (11:25:23 PM): I tried confronting him about trying to frame me in like Week 2 to save himself from looking suspicious, and he just argued
spies4Zander (11:25:33 PM): so you have to be careful cause he just shuts up and doesn't talk if he doesn't want to hear it
spies4Zander (11:25:49 PM): The only person who seems to be defending Ralph right now is Cain...
spies4Naomi (11:25:57 PM): well...I have certain ways of getting my 'ralphie' to talk...
spies4Zander (11:25:59 PM): And that's according to summer
spies4Naomi (11:27:17 PM): my way of seeing it, even in the rare flying-pig CHANCE he's telling the truth, that role will never work now! Why should we all wait around for it?
spies4Zander (11:28:07 PM): Nobody can trust him, he's clearly not productive, so I agree, I don't think he's a citizen but if he it's not a big loss
spies4Naomi (11:28:19 PM): righy
spies4Naomi (11:28:23 PM): *right
spies4Naomi (11:28:38 PM): now the only debate is which group gets to exile him LMAO
spies4Zander (11:29:08 PM): Wouldn't it be Group 2?
spies4Naomi (11:29:14 PM): why?
spies4Naomi (11:29:17 PM): do they go first?
spies4Zander (11:29:32 PM): Doesn't your group only exile those in your own group?
spies4Naomi (11:29:41 PM): oh really?
spies4Naomi (11:29:46 PM): didn't know that...
spies4Naomi (11:29:53 PM): then yeah you're right
spies4Zander (11:29:56 PM): "Each group votes out somebody within their own group. While each group cannot vote in the other group's Exile, everyone is encouraged to influence and sway both of them as if they were regular ones. Everyone is invited to both Exile chats. You may wish to have your opinion heard in both of them. There is no restrictions on who can talk to who. Family voting restrictions are still in effect."
spies4Naomi (11:30:00 PM): oh ok
spies4Zander (11:30:08 PM): But Summer brought up a good point.
spies4Zander (11:30:20 PM): Ralph won't vote for Ralph, Madison and I can't vote for Ralph, and right now it seems that Cain wouldn't vote for Ralph
spies4Naomi (11:30:41 PM): still...
spies4Naomi (11:30:52 PM): thats leaves 8
spies4Zander (11:30:55 PM): So either way I will have to cast my vote in a way that doesn't help Ralph. Summer also thinks that since he has 4 days to try to defend himself, it is possible that he could pull it off... I don't believe that much though
spies4Zander (11:31:09 PM): As long as people like Singe and Kip don't ignore the obvious
spies4Zander (11:31:26 PM): If you don't mind me asking, who do you find most suspicious in your group?
spies4Naomi (11:31:28 PM): oh I'll make sure I dig ralphie-poo a HUGE rabbit hole...
spies4Naomi (11:31:36 PM): hmm...
spies4Naomi (11:31:54 PM): if I had to go with who ralph talked to the most, that'd be gordy
spies4Naomi (11:32:06 PM): and apparently the talk about him has already started
spies4Naomi (11:32:24 PM): he was also the only vote against me last exile... =_=
spies4Zander (11:32:34 PM): Wow...
spies4Naomi (11:32:44 PM): and when I confronted him about it, all he did was name off fruit
spies4Zander (11:32:49 PM): LOL!
spies4Zander (11:32:53 PM): That's very like him :-P
spies4Naomi (11:33:01 PM): so if no one else, him
spies4Zander (11:33:26 PM): I think Ralph also works with Hannah, but I somewhat trust her and really haven't seen anything suspicious from her
spies4Zander (11:33:40 PM): And he also works with Beverly... I think those are the only people from your group though
spies4Naomi (11:33:51 PM): yeah
spies4Naomi (11:34:16 PM): I've wanted beverly out for awhile, and I'm beginning to wonder how much of it is personal
spies4Naomi (11:34:24 PM): hmm...I don't think much
spies4Zander (11:34:29 PM): I honestly never thought about Beverly until this week
spies4Naomi (11:34:37 PM): looking at my interaction with her
spies4Naomi (11:34:43 PM): really?
spies4Zander (11:34:45 PM): And I realized that it's an excellent defense for her whether she's a spy or a citizen
spies4Naomi (11:34:50 PM): right
spies4Zander (11:35:11 PM): From a citizen view, she doesn't seem spy like and she's not a serious threat to anyone's existence, really.
spies4Zander (11:35:30 PM): From a spy view, I think she'd seem like someone who won't help the citizens so why Imprison her
spies4Zander (11:35:40 PM): so either way she would make it to the end, but still without doing much...
spies4Zander (11:35:55 PM): I still don't know if that tells me anything of her alignment though
spies4Naomi (11:36:11 PM): it tells me she came prepared for something to hide
spies4Naomi (11:36:17 PM): ha ha
spies4Zander (11:36:25 PM): Hah, yes. She's definitely experienced, that's all I know
spies4Zander (11:36:38 PM): No unexperienced player would be this ridiculous in their first game
spies4Naomi (11:36:45 PM): very true
spies4Naomi (11:37:12 PM): anyway, i got some stuff to do before ralphie the bastard shows up for his nightly flirtations...
spies4Zander (11:37:17 PM): haha!
spies4Zander (11:37:21 PM): Okay, see you later Naomi!
spies4Naomi (11:37:26 PM): bye zander.
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spies4Naomi (1:57:15 AM): Update: He totally spilled something that should never be spilled as a citizen. Due to the nature of it, I can't release it to you, or anyone else. I think I'm going to have to stay on this until his exile, in which case, only you know I don't truly believe him. I just can't risk him finding out that I don't buy it.

Auto response from spies4Zander (1:57:17 AM): Around here somewhere...

spies4Naomi (1:58:09 AM): Also, candy will know, just in case something goes haywire here. She won't know that you know, just as a safe-guard.
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spies4Zander (9:22:25 PM): Um, okay? lol

Auto response from spies4Naomi (9:22:26 PM): Don't be afraid to leave a message!


Auto response from spies4Zander (9:22:26 PM): Out for the afternoon

spies4Zander (9:22:35 PM): Sorry I just got your message now, for some reason

[Zander]

spies4Zander (11:05:40 PM): Hey
spies4Summer (11:05:56 PM): Hi Zander
spies4Summer (11:05:57 PM): How are you?
spies4Zander (11:06:09 PM): Fairly well I guess, how are you doing?
spies4Summer (11:06:22 PM): I'm all right
spies4Summer (11:06:32 PM): Dreading waiting until Sunday
spies4Zander (11:06:41 PM): I agree, that's such a long time
spies4Summer (11:06:47 PM): It really is
spies4Summer (11:06:58 PM): But it's good for some people
spies4Zander (11:07:05 PM): lol like who?
spies4Summer (11:07:12 PM): Off the top of my head? Ralph
spies4Summer (11:07:34 PM): He has Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and most of Sunday to find a way out of the mess he made for himself
spies4Zander (11:07:55 PM): Do you really think he can get out of that though?
spies4Summer (11:08:09 PM): I think that a lot can happen in 4 days
spies4Summer (11:08:11 PM): Definitely
spies4Summer (11:08:32 PM): Which is bad news for me
spies4Zander (11:08:45 PM): If people are that willing to turn their heads from something like that, I'll be really scared for the potential of us to win the game
spies4Summer (11:09:02 PM): I would be too
spies4Zander (11:09:03 PM): I'm almost convinced the role doesn't exist
spies4Summer (11:09:10 PM): I just posted what I thought of it
spies4Zander (11:09:17 PM): I saw, and I agree
spies4Summer (11:09:28 PM): Oh fantastic
spies4Zander (11:09:30 PM): but we all already know how I feel about Ralph being inconsistent and constantly lying/changing his stories to others
spies4Summer (11:09:32 PM): Someone for once agrees with my posts
spies4Zander (11:09:45 PM): Unfortunately I can't vote for him and he's basically my top suspect now
spies4Summer (11:09:50 PM): Well I talked to him tonight
spies4Summer (11:09:55 PM): And he very adamently defended what he said
spies4Summer (11:10:10 PM): He had the chance to turn around and say he was just kidding, and he didn't
spies4Zander (11:10:12 PM): But what he said was contradictory and didn't make sense. Again. For like the 4th time
spies4Summer (11:10:32 PM): I agree
spies4Summer (11:10:53 PM): But there are already people defending him
spies4Summer (11:11:02 PM): So it's entirely possible that he'll get away scot free
spies4Summer (11:11:17 PM): I've already voted for him in my confessional though
spies4Zander (11:11:17 PM): who's defending him?
spies4Summer (11:11:27 PM): Cain, for one
spies4Summer (11:11:38 PM): "Oh, he's just new, he's inexperienced, it's his first game"
spies4Zander (11:11:58 PM): Well that's pretty funny considering I don't really trust Cain either
spies4Summer (11:12:31 PM): Well if you think about it
spies4Summer (11:12:37 PM): You can't vote Ralph
spies4Summer (11:12:43 PM): Neither can Madison
spies4Summer (11:12:53 PM): If Cain is a spy with Ralph, he won't vote Ralph
spies4Summer (11:12:59 PM): And Ralph can't vote for himself either
spies4Summer (11:13:06 PM): Right there are 4 votes that are going to someone else
spies4Zander (11:13:14 PM): True...
spies4Summer (11:13:31 PM): Now if you're clever, you can do a lot with 4 votes and 4 days
spies4Summer (11:13:41 PM): So I will be watching very closely to see what happens
spies4Zander (11:15:35 PM): Good point, but if Ralph gets Madison's support to vote for someone, I'll chop off my testicals and put them on a stake
spies4Summer (11:16:02 PM): *Giggle* Gross
spies4Zander (11:16:12 PM): after he called her out and tried to get her exiled, if he tried to get her vote just to exile another target, she'd have to be stupid to follow him
spies4Summer (11:17:01 PM): I agree
spies4Summer (11:17:49 PM): Be careful with your vote though - since you can't vote Ralph, you have to be careful not to cast it in a way that could help him
spies4Zander (11:18:15 PM): Yes, and that's if I'm not convinced he's not a spy in the next few days (kidding).

[Zander]

spies4Zander (10:43:27 PM): Hey look, I'm IMing Candy!
spies4Candy (10:43:31 PM): FAINT
spies4Candy (10:43:34 PM): I feel faint
spies4Zander (10:43:37 PM): That's all I really wanted haha
spies4Candy (10:43:41 PM): Good thing I'm sitting down
spies4Candy (10:43:45 PM): What's up MAGIC BOY?
spies4Zander (10:43:50 PM): What can I say, I have that effect on people
spies4Zander (10:43:54 PM): not too much, how are you doing?
spies4Candy (10:44:05 PM): I'm good
spies4Candy (10:44:08 PM): Catching up on board stuff
spies4Candy (10:44:13 PM): Trying to figure out this vote and stuff
spies4Zander (10:45:33 PM): What do you think of the twist?
spies4Candy (10:46:18 PM): I think I'm in trouble
spies4Zander (10:47:34 PM): Because of the twist?
spies4Zander (10:47:36 PM): How?
spies4Candy (10:48:22 PM): Talking to people .. I'm in more trouble than I thought
spies4Zander (10:48:42 PM): Were you the one that formed the groups?
spies4Candy (10:48:46 PM): No comment
spies4Candy (10:48:59 PM): I made it through the last imprisonment and I'd like to make it throught the next one too
spies4Zander (10:49:26 PM): Fair enough, I guess...
spies4Candy (10:49:46 PM): I saw your post so I know what you're thinking.
spies4Zander (10:50:18 PM): Honestly I don't think you are the one who made the groups, because if you were, then you probably would have put yourself with more people who are more suspicious than you
spies4Zander (10:50:32 PM): or at least people who seem to have more exile support than you
spies4Candy (10:50:50 PM): Yeah funny how that works out
spies4Candy (10:51:00 PM): Your man Gordy is alone
spies4Zander (10:51:30 PM): Can't say I'm too happy, since he seemed to get along with everyone in our family the best
spies4Zander (10:51:41 PM): I just wonder how long this schism will last
spies4Candy (10:52:40 PM): Hopefully not long because that would mean more double exiles
spies4Zander (10:53:35 PM): Right now we outnumber the spies over 2-1 so the odds are probably not in our favor for exiles, at least not statistically
spies4Candy (10:54:06 PM): Plus for every citizen that goes, the spies get more control
spies4Zander (10:54:24 PM): From the sound of it, Sam made it sound temporary, but who knows what he's thinking
spies4Candy (10:58:03 PM): Hope for the best, expect the worst
spies4Candy (10:58:22 PM): So why Lloyd?
spies4Zander (10:58:41 PM): It seems like a frame, but who knows. Ralph clearly doesn't seem to be the smartest player
spies4Zander (11:00:26 PM): What's your opinion?
spies4Candy (11:01:42 PM): My first instinct is to say that someone was afraid Lloyd would lead an exile to get a spy on the 3-side out
spies4Candy (11:02:04 PM): Lloyd would have successfully exiled Madison if Grace hadn't been inactive
spies4Zander (11:02:52 PM): My concern is that Lloyd clearly suspected Madison. Does that make her a spy because he was Imprisoned, though?
spies4Candy (11:03:01 PM): That seems too obvious
spies4Candy (11:03:09 PM): But it's possible
spies4Zander (11:03:13 PM): Exactly my thoughts
spies4Candy (11:03:21 PM): But Lloyd clearly had influence
spies4Candy (11:03:35 PM): He got a lot of votes for Kiyoshi in round 1
spies4Zander (11:03:39 PM): It's a smart move whether or not Madison or Ralph are spies
spies4Candy (11:03:42 PM): Got a lot for Madison in round 2
spies4Candy (11:03:49 PM): Yeah ... I agree

[Zander]

spies4Faizah (10:25:21 PM): omg
spies4Faizah (10:25:25 PM): omg
spies4Faizah (10:25:25 PM): omg
spies4Faizah (10:25:25 PM): We can pretty much control this exile
spies4Faizah (10:25:25 PM): with our 4 votes.
spies4Faizah (10:25:35 PM): Think Madison will go???
spies4Faizah (10:25:43 PM): or Ralph, Its amazing we have 2 PRIME suspects.
spies4Zander (10:26:31 PM): I cannot vote for one of them
spies4Zander (10:26:34 PM): so we only have 3
spies4Zander (10:26:40 PM): but I think Ralph will have overwhelming support
spies4Zander (10:26:47 PM): Singe seems to suspect him
spies4Faizah (10:26:50 PM): yea
spies4Zander (10:26:51 PM): I'll be voting for Summer
spies4Zander (10:26:55 PM): as I cannot vote for either of them
spies4Faizah (10:26:59 PM): god, I would love it if she went
spies4Faizah (10:27:03 PM): Do you think she will target me?
spies4Zander (10:27:33 PM): I really can't say, Angelica would probably know a lot better
spies4Zander (10:27:38 PM): apparently she talks a lot with Gordy and Summer
spies4Zander (10:27:45 PM): nobody is really talking to me lately
spies4Zander (10:27:48 PM): I'm a bit on edge
spies4Zander (10:42:08 PM): Oh also, your burg post could make me look suspicious
spies4Zander (10:42:18 PM): if anyone asks it may be wise to later edit it and say that then again, Ralph is not very smart
spies4Zander (10:42:27 PM): or not edit it, rather
spies4Zander (10:42:46 PM): just say that Ralph may have been dumb enough to do that, or desperate enough
spies4Faizah (10:44:04 PM): god, I hate to edit it now tho
spies4Faizah (10:45:14 PM): so do you think he is 100% in the other spy team?
spies4Zander (10:45:44 PM): Don't edit it that's all
spies4Zander (10:45:54 PM): No, I don't think he is at all. Who else protected me from Imprisonment?
spies4Zander (10:46:01 PM): I think Summer's in the other spy group
spies4Faizah (10:46:46 PM): Well, then he is the dumbest player ever
spies4Faizah (10:46:51 PM): Think he really has the mirrorman role?
spies4Zander (10:47:24 PM): Yeah
spies4Faizah (10:47:51 PM): I think though if ANYONE from our group pushes for anyone besides Ralph...we are going to look suspicious
spies4Faizah (10:48:02 PM): You can obviously vote Summer, but its gonna be hard to get others too.
spies4Zander (10:48:12 PM): Yeah, well I dont' think she will leave anyway
spies4Zander (10:48:31 PM): If Ralph or Madison don't leave this week, something is up
spies4Faizah (10:48:38 PM): Yep
spies4Zander (10:48:51 PM): Singe seems against Ralph
spies4Faizah (10:49:05 PM): I think it will be Bev/Naomi/Hannah, then Ralph/Madison
spies4Zander (10:49:06 PM): You and Angie are against Ralph, basically automatically
spies4Faizah (10:49:07 PM): / = or
spies4Zander (10:50:47 PM): I think Bev is a spy so that could be great
spies4Zander (10:50:50 PM): but Candy seems to think she's leaving
spies4Faizah (10:51:17 PM): Yea, she is down about it
spies4Faizah (10:52:20 PM): *should* be another couple easy votes for us.
spies4Zander (10:54:48 PM): The only thing I can imagine is me getting blindsided
spies4Zander (10:54:57 PM): I think Madison (if she ever comes on) would vote Summer with me
spies4Zander (10:55:25 PM): Goddddd I hate double exiles
spies4Zander (10:55:31 PM): if this was a large vote I'd have nothing to worry about
spies4Zander (10:57:48 PM): Summer doesn't buy Ralphs role
spies4Zander (10:57:51 PM): and we're set
spies4Faizah (10:59:17 PM): I think I could be blindsided
spies4Faizah (10:59:25 PM): but I think Summer would have to convince alot of people.
spies4Faizah (10:59:29 PM): And it helps she and Gordy are split up
spies4Zander (10:59:39 PM): She clearly thinks Ralph is lying though
spies4Faizah (10:59:53 PM): really?
spies4Zander (11:00:05 PM): Look at her post in the Ralph's Role is BS thread
spies4Faizah (11:00:46 PM): Part of me wants to talk to Summer
spies4Faizah (11:00:52 PM): but I dont want to feed her fire bout me at ALL
spies4Faizah (11:00:56 PM): so I think its better off to not.
spies4Zander (11:04:02 PM): Yeah, just don't talk to her
spies4Zander (11:04:12 PM): The only people I'm talking to right now are you and Candy lol
spies4Faizah (11:04:16 PM): ditto
spies4Faizah (11:04:17 PM): lol
spies4Zander (11:04:44 PM): I am not going to talk to Singe until he talks to me
spies4Zander (11:04:49 PM): It seems he's basically given up lol
spies4Faizah (11:04:54 PM): LOL, really
spies4Faizah (11:04:54 PM): why
spies4Zander (11:05:00 PM): I'll talk to Summer for you
spies4Faizah (11:05:01 PM): because no one believes his crazy theory???
spies4Faizah (11:05:09 PM): ehhh...why?
spies4Zander (11:05:11 PM): Singe isn't as smart as he thinks but he's very quick with his eyes
spies4Zander (11:05:17 PM): and quick to accuse
spies4Zander (11:05:26 PM): so it's dangerous to talk to him even if it doesn't come to fruition
spies4Zander (11:05:38 PM): And I'm talking to Summer cause we have a basic mutual understanding to some degree
spies4Faizah (11:05:40 PM): talking to summer for me is only going to make both of us look bad
spies4Faizah (11:05:40 PM): lol
spies4Zander (11:05:43 PM): Yeah lol
spies4Zander (11:05:50 PM): Well I'm not talking FOR you
spies4Zander (11:05:55 PM): I'm talking to her, that's what I meant :-P
spies4Faizah (11:05:57 PM): ohhhhhhh ok, I was like NOOOOOO!
spies4Faizah (11:06:05 PM): plant more Ralph seeds.
spies4Zander (11:06:17 PM): haha, I don't even think I need to but we'll discuss it for sure
spies4Zander (11:06:25 PM): I'm a bit mad we don't vote til Sunday though
spies4Zander (11:06:31 PM): that's a LOT of time for people to change their minds
spies4Faizah (11:06:34 PM): I know, that gives alot of time
spies4Faizah (11:06:34 PM): yep
spies4Zander (11:13:27 PM): spies4Summer (11:12:31 PM): Well if you think about it
spies4Summer (11:12:37 PM): You can't vote Ralph
spies4Summer (11:12:43 PM): Neither can Madison
spies4Summer (11:12:53 PM): If Cain is a spy with Ralph, he won't vote Ralph
spies4Summer (11:12:59 PM): And Ralph can't vote for himself either
spies4Summer (11:13:06 PM): Right there are 4 votes that are going to someone else
spies4Faizah (11:15:29 PM): oh god.
spies4Faizah (11:15:29 PM): lol
spies4Faizah (11:15:33 PM): I told you!
spies4Faizah (11:15:37 PM): I bet that bitch will still gun for me.
spies4Zander (11:16:19 PM): lol
spies4Zander (11:16:22 PM): I think she'll go for Ralph
spies4Zander (11:16:44 PM): We have to split up our votes this time
spies4Zander (11:16:51 PM): like almost 100%, none of us vote with the others
spies4Zander (11:16:59 PM): Voting patterns will be VERY CLOSELY OBSERVED this time
spies4Faizah (11:17:04 PM): well you obv cant vote Ralph
spies4Faizah (11:17:10 PM): so its ok if Ang and I do
spies4Zander (11:17:43 PM): did you guys vote together last exile?
spies4Faizah (11:18:31 PM): I dont remember
spies4Faizah (11:18:41 PM): but if we split our votes, its going to look weird.
spies4Zander (11:18:48 PM): how?
spies4Zander (11:18:54 PM): it's going to look weird if you vote together 3 weeks in a row
spies4Faizah (11:18:58 PM): who else would we vote for???
spies4Faizah (11:19:11 PM): If people dont vote ralph who ARENT in his family....they are screwed
spies4Zander (11:19:44 PM): If he has overwhelming support, then I'm saying do it
spies4Zander (11:19:47 PM): if not, just be careful
spies4Faizah (11:20:00 PM): right
spies4Faizah (11:20:10 PM): if its looking 50/50ish...we should split
spies4Zander (11:20:53 PM): mmhmm
spies4Zander (11:21:04 PM): if none of us are in trouble, no use making ourselves have more trouble in the future
spies4Zander (11:21:10 PM): Naomi says I'm a trusted member of the burg
spies4Zander (11:22:45 PM): Alongside...
spies4Zander (11:23:41 PM): fucker, she didn't tell me
spies4Zander (11:23:45 PM): but I guess trusted is good enough
spies4Faizah (11:23:46 PM): lol
spies4Faizah (11:23:48 PM): yea
spies4Faizah (11:23:51 PM): Summer is talking to me now
spies4Zander (11:24:05 PM): if we can get Summer exiled and push off the inevitable, that'll be even funnier - Naomi's not in our group (I think) and she'll KILL to get Ralph next week
spies4Faizah (11:24:21 PM): Yea, it would be best to keep Ralph if we could do it sly-ly.
spies4Zander (11:24:41 PM): Perhaps if Ralph really fights we can get Madison eliminated... And say that it's what Lloyd wanted us to do first :-P
spies4Faizah (11:31:21 PM): ROFL
spies4Faizah (11:31:27 PM): she is practically begging me not to vote her
spies4Faizah (11:31:31 PM): she thinks the vote will change to her
spies4Zander (11:31:47 PM): It could but Naomi's gonna grill Ralph so maybe not

[Zander]

spies4hannah (1:04:44 PM): hey zander
spies4hannah (1:04:49 PM): whts up?
spies4Zander (1:04:53 PM): Hey Hannah
spies4Zander (1:04:56 PM): not too much, how are you doing?
spies4hannah (1:05:16 PM): fine thanks. am pretty nervous for the coming exile tho
spies4hannah (1:05:32 PM): i think it'll be between jeremiah and candy, but i could be vulnerable
spies4Zander (1:05:54 PM): I haven't heard your name come up too much, to be honest
spies4Zander (1:06:51 PM): But best of luck regardless
spies4hannah (1:07:39 PM): thanks. ur thoughts on who are suspects in our groups?
spies4Zander (1:08:25 PM): The only one I seriously have my eye on right now is Ralph in my group. But I would look out for Johan in yours.
spies4Zander (1:08:36 PM): Something about him just rubs me the wrong way
spies4Zander (1:08:44 PM): he pretends to contribute, but doesn't actually offer much...
spies4hannah (1:09:04 PM): hmmm, could be
spies4Zander (1:09:05 PM): I'm also watching out for Kip, Leon, and Beverly
spies4hannah (1:09:06 PM): i am not sure
spies4hannah (1:09:27 PM): hmmm i agree with leon maybe
spies4hannah (1:09:36 PM): so many ppl are just too quiet
spies4Zander (1:09:47 PM): If I had any opinion on Emma I would say her too
spies4Zander (1:09:50 PM): but I just don't know, I never see her
spies4hannah (1:10:19 PM): yeah true that
spies4hannah (1:10:30 PM): between candy and jeremiah? who would u vote?
spies4Zander (1:11:22 PM): Hmm....
spies4Zander (1:11:31 PM): Probably Jeremiah
spies4Zander (1:11:41 PM): I mean, I don't trust Candy that much, but over the past few days my suspicions of her have gone down
spies4Zander (1:12:00 PM): where with Jeremiah, I still haven't really talked to him since the first week
spies4Zander (1:12:44 PM): How about you?
spies4hannah (1:13:13 PM): hmm, yeah i mostly agree with u
spies4hannah (1:13:21 PM): jeremiah has been quite shady recently
spies4hannah (1:15:53 PM): any other thoughts?
spies4Zander (1:16:43 PM): I'll have to think a bit - with so many barely active people I keep forgetting who's actually in the game lol.
spies4hannah (1:17:04 PM): haha i know the feeling
spies4Zander (1:17:15 PM): I think Masaki's a citizen and I think he can be trusted. Same with Madison, though nobody seems to agree with me on either
spies4hannah (1:18:08 PM): really? altho lloyd did say he would stake his life in the game on the fact she was a spy
spies4Zander (1:18:32 PM): But what has she done that's spy-like? That's just what I don't really get
spies4Zander (1:18:51 PM): and no one has really elaborated on that for me
spies4hannah (1:18:52 PM): well that i am not really sure
spies4Zander (1:19:00 PM): So how should I suspect someone with no evidence against it?
spies4hannah (1:21:18 PM): yeah i suppose u have a point there

[Zander]

spies4Zander (2:00:08 AM): Hey
spies4Cain (2:00:31 AM): hey whats up
spies4Zander (2:00:56 AM): Not too much, you're the only other person on so I figured I'd chat it up with you. Help us both out with donating points to the person of our choice with the activity
spies4Zander (2:01:06 AM): Maybe share some ideas or something
spies4Cain (2:01:50 AM): yea did you read the post i amde earlier
spies4Zander (2:01:58 AM): Which one?
spies4Cain (2:02:34 AM): about llyod
spies4Zander (2:03:19 AM): In the thread Lloyd made?
spies4Zander (2:03:41 AM): or the one you made asking why he was imprisoned?
spies4Zander (2:03:49 AM): I hadn't seen it til now since I was gone most of the day
spies4Cain (2:04:09 AM): the thread i made
spies4Zander (2:04:31 AM): I think it holds some weight, but honestly the speculation of it can go either way.
spies4Zander (2:05:01 AM): The first way is that one or more of the people on that list are spies, and Imprisoned Lloyd to protect themselves
spies4Zander (2:05:41 AM): The second way is that there are spies in the minor group who Imprisoned Lloyd in an attempt to frame certain people or all people on that list, while still eliminating Lloyd as a threat
spies4Cain (2:06:14 AM): what do you think about ralph?
spies4Cain (2:06:17 AM): do you think he is a spy?
spies4Zander (2:06:23 AM): So honestly no matter how hard we pool our ideas I think ultimately it will come down to people's intuition. And people both on that list and off will probably be more willing to accuse others on the list than anyone else
spies4Zander (2:06:27 AM): Cause they are easy targets
spies4Zander (2:06:37 AM): I don't understand Ralph's actions or motivations, at ALL
spies4Zander (2:06:40 AM): Like through the entire game
spies4Zander (2:06:53 AM): And I know that means I can't trust him, and it makes me severely question his alignment
spies4Zander (2:07:07 AM): but there's part of me that still wonders "What if he's not a spy", and that part of me is what makes me afraid to push hard for his exile.
spies4Zander (2:07:13 AM): Regardless, I cannot vote for him
spies4Zander (2:07:20 AM): What I do find funny though...
spies4Zander (2:07:39 AM): Is I hear Ralph and Gordy say I'm suspicious for defending Madison, while Ralph and Gordy endlessly defend each other to a much higher degree.
spies4Zander (2:08:03 AM): Also note that Ralph has physical evidence regarding his actions, while everytime I ask people why they suspect Madison, never a reason is given
spies4Cain (2:08:04 AM): i think if ralph does not go this exile
spies4Cain (2:08:11 AM): people are not going to stop suspecting him
spies4Cain (2:08:16 AM): he will eventually be exiled
spies4Zander (2:08:35 AM): I do find Kip's hypocritical actions to be very interesting
spies4Cain (2:08:40 AM): what other info or lead or anything do we actually ahve right now
spies4Zander (2:08:55 AM): What makes me mad about Ralph is that he interprets information in such an odd way and treats the game like survivor... He tried to throw me away to Lloyd to save himself.
spies4Zander (2:09:25 AM): He tried to throw Madison away as well
spies4Cain (2:09:45 AM): he told me this is his first mafia game
spies4Zander (2:09:47 AM): So I want to think he's not a spy because his actions are so blatant, and odd, but at the same time, why is he so concerned with preserving himself when in the first place, he was in no danger
spies4Cain (2:09:53 AM): i don't think he knows how to actually play
spies4Zander (2:10:05 AM): In the same right, that does not indicate his alignment
spies4Cain (2:10:21 AM): he is rather a dumb player
spies4Cain (2:10:28 AM): but that is b/c he doesn't know how to actually play
spies4Zander (2:10:54 AM): Yes, I agree... And his role claim not only makes little sense, but seems made up
spies4Zander (2:11:10 AM): Do you suspect him?
spies4Cain (2:11:32 AM): before the convo with llyod i was very iffy
spies4Cain (2:11:40 AM): i wasnt sure if he was just a dumb player or a spy
spies4Cain (2:11:48 AM): but now i know he is a dumb player and am wondering if he is a spy
spies4Cain (2:11:49 AM): lol
spies4Zander (2:11:52 AM): hah!
spies4Zander (2:12:13 AM): So who do you actually have suspicions against/ think you will vote for in this exile?
spies4Cain (2:12:15 AM): i think he is more of a spy than other people
spies4Cain (2:13:16 AM): summer and singe strike me as odd
spies4Cain (2:13:23 AM): but i also haven't spoken to them a whole lot
spies4Cain (2:13:29 AM): so i can't make a real good choice there
spies4Cain (2:13:40 AM): and i really haven't spoken to faziah either
spies4Zander (2:13:49 AM): They're both weird but I really really think Singe is a citizen... Something about him just makes me feel that way, can't really explain it. It's the same I've felt about Masaki and Madison all game too
spies4Cain (2:13:54 AM): abrams is very hard to speak to
spies4Cain (2:13:58 AM): kip is the same
spies4Zander (2:14:31 AM): The only people I really think are citizens in our group are...
spies4Zander (2:14:52 AM): basically Singe... everyone else I'm up in the air about lol
spies4Cain (2:14:58 AM): haha
spies4Zander (2:15:00 AM): But I trust Madison
spies4Cain (2:15:08 AM): i don't suspect her
spies4Cain (2:15:20 AM): i would vote faizah
spies4Cain (2:15:26 AM): or even adelaide
spies4Zander (2:16:17 AM): Didn't you just say you suspected Ralph more than anyone? lol
spies4Cain (2:17:15 AM): only b/c of that convo
spies4Cain (2:17:19 AM): there really isnt info on anyone else
spies4Zander (2:20:46 AM): true
spies4Cain (2:25:28 AM): who do you suspect
spies4Zander (2:26:04 AM): The strongest that I suspect are Ralph, Kip, and Summer, I guess
spies4Cain (2:26:18 AM): why summer
spies4Zander (2:26:22 AM): I'm not sure how to feel about some of the others like Abrams, Faizah, and Adelaide...
spies4Zander (2:26:34 AM): Angelica, you, Madison, and Singe all seem like citizens to me
spies4Zander (2:27:11 AM): Summer seems a bit wishy-washy to me. Very with the flow, active but not throwing herself too far out there. It's perfect middle-level playing and it seems to me like a smart thing to do as a spy
spies4Zander (2:27:27 AM): she hasn't really thrown herself too far out there as someone who disagrees, like Ralph and Kip and others have
spies4Zander (2:27:40 AM): and while Ralph and Kip are more suspect because of their actions, to me, she is more suspect because of her lack of actions
spies4Zander (2:38:34 AM): *Falls asleep*
spies4Cain (2:38:53 AM): yeah im about to go to sleep
spies4Zander (2:39:13 AM): Good plan
spies4Cain is away at 2:41:12 AM.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (1:59:56 AM): Did you get warned? lol
Auto response from spies4Gordy (1:59:56 AM): Wankers...

spies4Gordy (2:09:53 AM): how do you know?
spies4Zander (2:10:32 AM): It says on my buddy list Spies4Gordy (9%)
spies4Gordy (2:11:51 AM): well that's retarded
spies4Gordy (2:12:03 AM): <3 the Aneleise Chronicles
spies4Zander (2:12:27 AM): ? lol
spies4Gordy (2:12:36 AM): I am soooo pissed
spies4Zander (2:12:40 AM): why?
spies4Gordy (2:12:43 AM): Jer was tryting to protect mw
spies4Gordy (2:12:45 AM): *me
spies4Gordy (2:12:52 AM): and the spy fuckers eliminated him
spies4Zander (2:12:55 AM): To be honest, I really didn't expect him to go
spies4Gordy (2:13:00 AM): Leon and Damon bandwagoned
spies4Zander (2:13:08 AM): Do you think they're spies?
spies4Gordy (2:13:11 AM): rotten sacks of shit
spies4Gordy (2:13:21 AM): we could have tried getting rid of, oh,that spy CANDY
spies4Gordy (2:13:36 AM): her twat is so foul
spies4Gordy (2:13:50 AM): a chainsaw will disintegrate before it ripped her insides apart
spies4Zander (2:13:56 AM): hah!
spies4Gordy (2:13:57 AM): HATE
spies4Zander (2:14:00 AM): That's so pleasant
spies4Gordy (2:14:44 AM): Meh. Maybe DDRFreakers have more fun
spies4Gordy (2:14:57 AM): If Ralph leaves I will hate you al and asked ot be imprisoned
spies4Zander (2:15:24 AM): Well if it makes you feel better, I can't vote for him
spies4Gordy (2:15:31 AM): that's not the point
spies4Zander (2:15:33 AM): And I haven't been pushing for him either
spies4Zander (2:15:42 AM): Which I'm guessing is the point?
spies4Gordy (2:15:47 AM): I think that fucker Abrams or Addy are spies
spies4Zander (2:15:58 AM): Do you have any evidence against them?
spies4Gordy (2:16:08 AM): well how does Addy know so much about us?
spies4Gordy (2:16:18 AM): in particular how we voted for Martha and how it went down?
spies4Gordy (2:16:25 AM): and why is she always starting shitty ass threads?
spies4Zander (2:16:31 AM): I thought she was told most of that from Lloyd and Jeremiah?
spies4Gordy (2:16:34 AM): and why is she the person to kiss people's asses?
spies4Gordy (2:16:42 AM): then how did Jr and Lloyd know? O.o
spies4Gordy (2:17:08 AM): why need proof when you can obviously just go with the flow like Damon and Leon *eyes*
spies4Gordy (2:17:26 AM): I'm still pissed
spies4Gordy (2:17:31 AM): especially at Naomi
spies4Gordy (2:18:18 AM): naomi HATE!
spies4Gordy (2:18:31 AM): we planned on keeping the tiebreaker between her, Jer and myself. Ain't gonna happen anymore
spies4Zander (2:20:25 AM): I am shocked that Naomi actually voted for Jeremiah
spies4Zander (2:20:31 AM): she said last night she was starting to find him suspicious
spies4Zander (2:20:38 AM): but I can't believe she actually went with it
spies4Zander (2:21:06 AM): Urgh I have no idea who I'm voting this round.
spies4Gordy (2:21:40 AM): obviously Ralph will only be saved if ther votes are tied between him and the other highest vote getter
spies4Gordy (2:21:59 AM): Naomi is a dumbass
spies4Gordy (2:22:05 AM): Jer knew I had a role
spies4Gordy (2:22:09 AM): he told Naomi
spies4Gordy (2:22:27 AM): the three of us were supposed to have a tight bond
spies4Zander (2:22:59 AM): Kind of like our family?
spies4Gordy (2:23:00 AM): If Ralph goes I swear I'm going to ask to be imprisoned
spies4Gordy (2:23:07 AM): yes, but Naomi'sfull of shit
spies4Gordy (2:23:24 AM): I am going ask the peopel i trust to give me their points so I can investigate that cunt
spies4Gordy (2:23:30 AM): and prove she's a spy
spies4Zander (2:23:54 AM): I'm stuck between you and Singe
spies4Zander (2:24:01 AM): I was going to give them to Singe until tonight when I saw Jeremiah leave
spies4Gordy (2:24:17 AM): why do you think Jer gave me the tiebreaker? and his points?
spies4Zander (2:24:21 AM): I know how much he trusted you, and even though I've heard you and Ralph are still pushing for me and Madison to get exiled, I really don't think you're a spy
spies4Gordy (2:24:21 AM): he kne I was a cit
spies4Gordy (2:24:37 AM): I don't think you're a spy anymore if you've been a spy in the past
spies4Zander (2:24:45 AM): Well I figured it was because he really thought you were a citizen, obviously, but I hate these "knew" and "100%s", and you know I do
spies4Gordy (2:24:47 AM): highly unlikely Sam would make the same person play as a spy twice
spies4Zander (2:25:10 AM): Well I guess that makes me feel slightly better
spies4Gordy (2:25:10 AM): He KNOWS
spies4Gordy (2:25:21 AM): because I told him stuff that may get me imprisoned
spies4Gordy (2:25:41 AM): if Ralph leaves, I have no one but you, Summer somewhat, Angelica and Hannah
spies4Gordy (2:25:52 AM): the rest can go fuck themselves and contract AIDS
spies4Gordy (2:26:09 AM): I got a fucking role! Happy?
spies4Zander (2:27:59 AM): Well I would guess you're happier about you having a role than I am lol
spies4Zander (2:28:41 AM): Gordy the only thing I'm slightly upset about is that you went behind Madison and my backs to try to help get us out, and to me, it didn't make sense why. But I didn't suspect you of being a spy for it or anything
spies4Zander (2:28:57 AM): Ralph, on the other hand, I did and still do question
spies4Gordy (2:29:24 AM): I'd rather suck Ralph's apple juice than eat your pinworms
spies4Zander (2:29:31 AM): huh?
spies4Gordy (2:29:53 AM): What would Judith or Aneleise do?
spies4Gordy (2:30:10 AM): you can yell at me. I don't fucking care anymore. I'm not having fun
spies4Zander (2:30:13 AM): for what? lol
spies4Gordy (2:30:25 AM): FINE
spies4Zander (2:30:32 AM): ...
spies4Gordy (2:30:42 AM): I'll tell you who I think is with whom
spies4Zander (2:31:02 AM): I am really confused right now
spies4Gordy (2:31:17 AM): I am going to show you my spy list in case I get imprisoned
spies4Gordy (2:31:26 AM): this was from yesterday
spies4Gordy (2:31:32 AM): so my mind could have changed on some people
spies4Zander (2:31:33 AM): Do you want me to keep it secret? Or post it if you do go or something?
spies4Gordy (2:31:42 AM): I'm only telling you!
spies4Gordy (2:31:44 AM): no one else
spies4Gordy (2:31:48 AM): because you're my hot family
spies4Zander (2:31:50 AM): Okay...
spies4Zander (2:31:53 AM): hah! Thanks :-P
spies4Gordy (2:31:57 AM): MINOR
1. Masaki
2. Leon
3. Naomi

MAJOR
1. Madison
2. Zander
3. Faizah
4. Angelica
spies4Gordy (2:32:07 AM):
spies4Zander (2:32:19 AM): Okay lol
spies4Gordy (2:32:28 AM): Naomi = twat
spies4Zander (2:32:54 AM): Question: if you don't suspect her, why would you use the investigation on her?
spies4Gordy (2:32:59 AM): now you'er probably going to tell me I spazz more than a mentos being dropped in coke
spies4Gordy (2:33:09 AM): suspect whom>
spies4Zander (2:33:13 AM): Naomi
spies4Gordy (2:33:16 AM): I DO suspect Naomi
spies4Gordy (2:33:24 AM): I need confirmation
spies4Zander (2:33:26 AM): Oh I missed her on the top list sorry lol
spies4Gordy (2:33:34 AM): this bitch stabbed Jer and I in the back
spies4Gordy (2:33:50 AM): she KNEW what Jer was doing
spies4Gordy (2:33:54 AM): Jer told her EVERYTHING
spies4Gordy (2:34:13 AM): and she acts like she's clueless?
spies4Zander (2:34:15 AM): Well, you know I'm not one to defend myself. All I want to say is that you and Ralph have pointed out how odd it is that I have defended Madison. Yet I was never, ever given reason to suspect her in the first place. She became an instant easy target and nobody ever told me why. So why on EARTH would I suspect her?
spies4Gordy (2:34:15 AM): bitch please
spies4Gordy (2:34:38 AM): Madison eats flies
spies4Zander (2:34:44 AM): Clearly she's a spy
spies4Gordy (2:35:02 AM): Leon and Damon... one of them must be a spy
spies4Gordy (2:35:07 AM): those assholes are never online
spies4Gordy (2:35:13 AM): but tag along and vote for Jer
spies4Gordy (2:35:23 AM): how would they know what he was up to unless fed by their fellow spies?
spies4Gordy (2:35:34 AM): when I wake up tomorrow I'll probably not remember this conversation lol
spies4Zander (2:36:42 AM): are you drunk or just mad lol
spies4Gordy (2:37:18 AM): a litle bit of this. a little bit of that
spies4Gordy (2:37:28 AM): just answer me before I go crazy!
spies4Zander (2:37:36 AM): what do I have to answer? lol
spies4Zander (2:39:17 AM): ...
spies4Gordy (2:39:25 AM): hi?
spies4Zander (2:39:30 AM): Hello
spies4Gordy (2:39:35 AM): Admit. You're Judith!
spies4Zander (2:39:40 AM): I'm wondering what question you want me to answer
spies4Gordy (2:39:56 AM): obviouslywhat do you think of that bitch Naomi
spies4Zander (2:39:59 AM): The only thing I will admit is I'm incredibly sexy
spies4Gordy (2:40:12 AM): *slap* FOCUS!
spies4Zander (2:40:28 AM): I don't know if Naomi is a spy, but I do know that I'm surprised how quickly she changed her opinions. And it was either out of spite, or out of spydom
spies4Gordy (2:40:35 AM): she plays dumb about not knowing Jer trying to save me
spies4Zander (2:40:38 AM): also do you not suspect Candy? And if not why did you vote for her this exile?
spies4Zander (2:40:57 AM): Because Candy is not on your spy list...
spies4Gordy (2:41:01 AM): I didn't suspect her until she blabbed to everyone in the game this morning
spies4Gordy (2:41:10 AM): and that list's from yesterday
spies4Gordy (2:41:21 AM): she's got diarrhea of the mouth
spies4Zander (2:41:24 AM): lol
spies4Gordy (2:41:29 AM): Naomi and Candy are emant for each other.
spies4Gordy (2:41:42 AM): Naomi bitches about my vote for her at exile 2
spies4Gordy (2:41:53 AM): yet she has no problem backstabbing Jewr like that
spies4Gordy (2:41:55 AM): what a fucktard
spies4Gordy (2:42:08 AM): especially since Jer spilled the beans to Naomi about me
spies4Gordy (2:42:21 AM): and she acts like a stupid ditz
spies4Gordy (2:42:25 AM): no one will buy that shit
spies4Gordy (2:42:48 AM): so I need to figure out who to pass the tiebreaker to. maybe you?
spies4Zander (2:42:55 AM): *And also confused - if you don't think Sam would pick someone to be a spy twice, why do you think I'm a spy on your list?*
spies4Gordy (2:43:07 AM): I'll say it again
spies4Gordy (2:43:15 AM): that list needs to be updated
spies4Gordy (2:43:16 AM): tonight
spies4Gordy (2:43:25 AM): I got new info from this morning
spies4Zander (2:43:26 AM): Okay, sorry, I just didn't know what your current thoughts were
spies4Zander (2:43:37 AM): Well, if I had the tiebreaker, I would pass it according to two things.
spies4Gordy (2:43:39 AM): Naomi and Masaki are at least together
spies4Zander (2:43:49 AM): 1st and most importantly, someone you are very sure is a citizen
spies4Gordy (2:44:03 AM): I BELIEVE you are a cit!
spies4Zander (2:44:11 AM): 2nd, someone you think will protect you and those you trust with it, and will eliminate a spy with it
spies4Gordy (2:44:13 AM): I was a fool because I only wanted to be with Ralph
spies4Zander (2:44:23 AM): :-P
spies4Gordy (2:44:26 AM): are you high? I just said I trusted you!
spies4Gordy (2:44:29 AM): omg yopu're impossible!
spies4Gordy (2:44:33 AM): asvakVSA
spies4Zander (2:44:43 AM): I didn't say you didn't trust me...
spies4Gordy (2:44:48 AM): lol!
spies4Gordy (2:44:52 AM):
spies4Zander (2:44:53 AM): I was just saying the criteria I think you should pass it on by lol
spies4Gordy (2:45:22 AM): I'll be disappointed if Singe wins this. I really think he'll use it on the wrong person
spies4Zander (2:45:30 AM): Gordy you make the game so entertaining because I spend half of our conversations just trying to figure out what you say and then trying to not be confused :-P
spies4Gordy (2:45:43 AM): fuyck you Aneliese
spies4Gordy (2:45:48 AM): you know you love it
spies4Zander (2:46:03 AM): Bow chicka bow wow
spies4Gordy (2:46:14 AM): @_@ I love Anelise and cna't even spell her name!
spies4Zander (2:46:26 AM): Anneliese was a bitch
spies4Gordy (2:46:40 AM): you'rea bitch?
spies4Gordy (2:46:42 AM):
spies4Zander (2:46:42 AM): that's about all I have to say about her
spies4Zander (2:46:51 AM): LOL! So I'm Judith AND Anneliese?
spies4Zander (2:46:57 AM): Can I be a monkey too? Please?
spies4Gordy (2:47:11 AM): you can have Ralph's condoms
spies4Gordy (2:47:17 AM): they're blue and orange
spies4Zander (2:47:17 AM): But they're extra-small
spies4Zander (2:47:23 AM): Blue and Orange? lol
spies4Gordy (2:47:28 AM): o_0
spies4Gordy (2:48:20 AM): I looooove you Zander
spies4Gordy (2:48:37 AM): I need you to believe me I need to use my role sooner than later
spies4Zander (2:49:17 AM): But I don't know what your role actually is lol
spies4Zander (2:49:22 AM): Are you supposed to run off with me and get married?
spies4Gordy (2:50:09 AM): is polygamy allowed? Because I will definitely make babies with you after Angelica and I have our firstborn
spies4Zander (2:50:38 AM): How in the hell would I make babies with you?
spies4Gordy (2:50:43 AM): adoption!
spies4Gordy (2:50:44 AM):
spies4Gordy (2:51:07 AM): ok here is how we prove Naomi's a spy
spies4Gordy (2:51:09 AM): since she knows my role
spies4Gordy (2:51:27 AM): if I'm not imprisoned, than that bitch is a spy
spies4Zander (2:51:56 AM): What if Naomi is a minor spy like you have her listed? Isn't it the major spies turn to imprison next?
spies4Gordy (2:52:15 AM): I only listed her as a minor because she's tight with Masaki and somewhat Leon
spies4Gordy (2:52:28 AM): and like Sam said it's very possible 2 spies can be in one family
spies4Gordy (2:52:45 AM): well there goes my theory
spies4Gordy (2:52:48 AM): thanks babe!
spies4Zander (2:52:58 AM): Sorry lol
spies4Zander (2:53:41 AM): Ugh... Okay Gordy, I'm tired. I'll talk to you tomorrow
spies4Gordy (2:53:50 AM): go now
spies4Zander (2:53:59 AM): hah!

[Zander]

spies4Zander (6:49:47 PM): Hey bird, what's the word?
spies4Angelica (6:50:16 PM): Ralph might not be going tonight, people have been debating it for hours.
spies4Zander (6:50:21 PM): I locked my vote on Cain. I just saw your post. Should I not vote Cain if he doesn't think I"m a spy?
spies4Zander (6:50:23 PM): Who is in danger?
spies4Angelica (6:50:46 PM): Madison, Abrams, and Ralph
spies4Zander (6:50:57 PM): I DON'T want to vote for somebody that will prevent Ralph from leaving
spies4Zander (6:51:09 PM): Who should I vote for?
spies4Angelica (6:51:42 PM): That's what I'm trying to figure out. See who's voting Abrams or Madison, so hopefully they get split.
spies4Zander (6:52:05 PM): I told Singe that since I think Ralph is a spy, voting another big suspect could prevent him from leaving, so I'm torn
spies4Zander (7:00:00 PM): Would you mind me voting for you?
spies4Zander (7:00:24 PM): I wouldn't ever do it without getting your opinion first
spies4Angelica (7:00:36 PM): Not particularly, unless it looks like I'm being blindsided. But by what logic?
spies4Zander (7:01:16 PM): You're not going to be blindsided... But I have no reason to vote for anyone else, except possibly Kip. Voting you proves that we are pretty much separated from working together.
spies4Zander (7:01:30 PM): Faizah insists that we give the mystery vote to Ralph
spies4Zander (7:01:35 PM): It's going to frame whoever votes for him SO BADLY
spies4Angelica (7:02:13 PM): I tend to agree with putting it on Ralph, because it could have been made at any time. People were 100% sure he was going days ago.
spies4Angelica signed off at 7:02:53 PM.
spies4Angelica signed on at 7:02:53 PM.
spies4Zander (7:03:10 PM): True... And regardless of if you vote for him, any spy could have done it. I'm just saying be careful
spies4Angelica (7:03:39 PM): And I only ask on the vote against me because I'm sure someone'll ask you why you did it, so be prepared.
spies4Zander (7:03:47 PM): Yes.
spies4Zander (7:03:52 PM): I'm thinking Kip
spies4Angelica (7:03:58 PM): Kip?
spies4Zander (7:04:05 PM): He's pretending to be proactive, in my eyes
spies4Zander (7:04:15 PM): it's easy for someone to claim others are for sure citizens, which makes that person in turn look innocent
spies4Zander (7:04:23 PM): If I bandwagon, Ralph won't go
spies4Zander (7:05:12 PM): If Gordy wins the investigation, he's not going to use it on Ralph regardless
spies4Zander (7:05:22 PM): He'll just claim Ralph is definitely a citizen
spies4Zander (7:08:30 PM): Seriously tell me who to vote for
spies4Zander (7:08:32 PM): I have no freaking clue
spies4Angelica (7:09:06 PM): I don't know, I'm thinking.
spies4Zander (7:11:26 PM): spies4Beverly (7:11:14 PM): if you don't vote her, but people also agree she's vote worthy
spies4Zander (7:11:27 PM): from Bev
spies4Zander (7:11:29 PM): about you
spies4Angelica (7:11:43 PM): Faizah told me.
spies4Angelica (7:12:02 PM): I don't know what the heck I've done that's vote worthy though. :/
spies4Zander (7:12:24 PM): Beverly is ridiculous
spies4Zander (7:13:08 PM): She says she's very very sure you're a spy...
spies4Zander (7:13:12 PM): I think Singe is going to try to blindside me...
spies4Angelica (7:13:30 PM): I think I might vote Abrams. Bev has faith in him, and allies of hers need to go.
spies4Zander (7:15:15 PM): I might vote Abrams as well...
spies4Zander (7:15:16 PM): Goddamn it
spies4Zander (7:15:24 PM): We can't freaking keep Ralph much longer
spies4Angelica (7:15:58 PM): Getting rid of him won't be easy. For him to go, Gordy needs to leave first. And he needs to be Exiled.
spies4Zander (7:25:45 PM): I hope Madison votes...
spies4Zander (7:25:52 PM): If she gets selfvotes and is a spy, I'm gone
spies4Zander (7:28:02 PM): Singe is going Ralph I think
spies4Zander (7:28:10 PM): Talk to him, let him tell you he's going Ralph, and you should probably do the same
spies4Angelica (7:28:11 PM): I'm trying to convince him to.
spies4Angelica (7:28:32 PM): Got I feel like the bottom has fallen out.
spies4Angelica signed off at 7:30:36 PM.
spies4Angelica signed on at 7:30:40 PM.
spies4Zander (7:36:18 PM): If I vote for Kip, I'll look like a hypocrite
spies4Zander (7:36:38 PM): If I vote for you, I can just claim I find you most suspicious in our group. If I vote for Faizah, Kip thinks I"m bandwagoning
spies4Zander (7:36:49 PM): If I vote for Summer, Gordy could think I'm trying to protect Faizah
spies4Zander (7:37:11 PM): If I vote for anyone else (save Singe, who I practically guaranteed to others is a citizen) then I help Ralph stay
spies4Zander (7:40:57 PM): Seriously what do I doooooooo. FUCK SCHISMS
spies4Zander (7:41:31 PM): FUCK THEM HARD AND LONG WITH A CHAINSAW
spies4Angelica (7:41:55 PM): I don't know! I'm trying to salvage something here. I want to slap Beverly, strangle Cain, and beat the hell out of GOrdy.
spies4Zander (7:42:08 PM): What's wrong with Cain?
spies4Angelica (7:43:08 PM): Being dense. I feel like I'm talking to a wall.
spies4Zander (7:43:10 PM): hah!
spies4Zander (7:43:16 PM): I'm so sure he's not voting Ralph and never intended to
spies4Zander (7:43:29 PM): Dear God, if Ralph turns out to be a spy, and is exiled, I shall love life indefinitely.
spies4Zander (7:43:31 PM): Kay thanks!
spies4Angelica (7:44:24 PM): In a perfect universe.
spies4Zander (7:45:04 PM): If only I was that magical
spies4Zander (7:45:20 PM): I feel like I'm talking to a turtle when I speak to Cain
spies4Zander (7:45:53 PM): Okay, I have it narrowed down to Summer, Kip, or you.
spies4Zander (7:45:57 PM): I'm thinking Summer is the most logical
spies4Zander (7:46:22 PM): Whatever vote I do essentially frames me anyway, and does not clear Ralph unless he's exiled
spies4Zander (7:46:29 PM): so as long as I don't vote for Abrams, I think we'll be okay...
spies4Zander (7:46:51 PM): You, Faizah, Singe, Abrams, and our extra vote are all going to Ralph
spies4Zander (7:46:53 PM): that's 5 for Ralph
spies4Zander (7:47:11 PM): Ralph, and... Maybe Cain are going to Abrams
spies4Zander (7:47:18 PM): Adelaide is voting... someone?
spies4Angelica (7:47:20 PM): Ady's voting Abrams.
spies4Zander (7:47:27 PM): And I'm voting for someone else
spies4Angelica (7:47:30 PM): Or was last time I talked to her.
spies4Zander (7:47:32 PM): Kip is voting Faizah
spies4Zander (7:47:58 PM): So 3 - Abrams, 5 - Ralph, 1 - faizah, 1 - Summer, and Madison is up in the air
spies4Zander (7:48:11 PM): if she doesn't post anything she's screwed
spies4Zander (7:48:24 PM): The tiebreaker will be between her and Ralph and Gordy will break it against Maddy
spies4Zander (7:49:16 PM): Keep in mind, gordy definitely knows my identity... (A big post I made in the SPY HQ was deleted by Sam and he basically threatened to kick me out of the game about it), but basically, yeah, he definitely knows who I am
spies4Zander (7:49:21 PM): So I could get accusation votes...
spies4Zander (7:56:57 PM): Cain is definitely voting Abrams. He said he'll vote whoever he needs to to protect Ralph
spies4Angelica (7:57:26 PM): I'm been banging my head against the wall trying to talk reason with him, and there's nothing doing.
spies4Zander (7:58:19 PM): My vote's locked on Summer
spies4Zander (7:58:27 PM): Dear God I hope she doesn't freak about it
spies4Angelica (8:00:10 PM): Dear God I hope this doesn't explode in our faces.
spies4Zander (8:00:52 PM): This is basically the riskiest shit we've done. If we DO manage to get Ralph out, I HOPE this turns back to Abrams
spies4Zander (8:01:01 PM): Gordy acts irrationally with his Investigation, and views Abrams
spies4Zander (8:01:02 PM): and we're saved
spies4Angelica (8:02:29 PM): I don't know if it'll be Ralph. My conversation with Singe is drifting away from that direction.
spies4Zander (8:05:15 PM): Who is it turning to?
spies4Angelica (8:11:42 PM): No one, he disappeared before it could end. But I ended up having to justify why I trust Gordy, who is telling me not to vote Ralph. Singe ended up checking with Gordy to see if what I was saying was true, which it is.
spies4Zander (8:12:06 PM): Good
spies4Zander (8:12:35 PM): If you and Faizah and Abrams are the only ones that vote for Ralph, and he gest a mystery vote, this is going to look awful.
spies4Zander (8:12:49 PM): Why is Adelaide voting Abrams when they were basically in the same boat? Self-preservation?
spies4Angelica (8:12:56 PM): I might have to vote Abrams.
spies4Angelica (8:13:24 PM): Because if I vote Ralph, Gordy'll eat me alive. And now Singe'll find it suspect.
spies4Zander (8:15:38 PM): mmhmm
spies4Angelica (8:16:26 PM): Why is everything falling apart at the seams?!
spies4Zander (8:16:52 PM): Singe's post in the burg seems to SUPPORT Ralph being a spy, or a lie
spies4Zander (8:17:14 PM): *or his role a lie
spies4Angelica (8:19:14 PM): Hmmm
spies4Angelica (8:19:22 PM): God, this Exile is going to be huge.
spies4Zander (8:19:57 PM): Even me voting Summer could look PSYCHOTICALLY SPYISH.
spies4Angelica (8:21:36 PM): Oh. My. God. Cain is so dense.
spies4Angelica (8:21:44 PM): He misses the point of EVERY statement I make.
spies4Zander (8:23:09 PM): He's starting to suspect you
spies4Zander (8:23:10 PM): be careful
spies4Zander (8:23:37 PM): he is the type of player that sees something and flies with it. So making yourself seem suspicious will make him never lay off of you
spies4Zander (8:23:49 PM): wait, SERIOUS question
spies4Zander (8:23:53 PM): Ralph's role claim
spies4Zander (8:24:52 PM): if a spy group tries to Imprison Ralph, a spy gets eliminated as a result?
spies4Zander (8:25:00 PM): but how the hell does that get determined? Like which spy is eliminated?
spies4Angelica (8:25:28 PM): I don't know. Random draw? Order the Spies voted for who to Imprison? Beats me.
spies4Zander (8:26:12 PM): Sounds fake when I think about it
spies4Zander (8:30:17 PM): And ain't it funny that this role was suggested last season by someone as a fake role claim, and now this season it appears?
spies4Angelica (8:32:01 PM): It was? I really don't remember.
spies4Zander (8:32:25 PM): Mmhmm
spies4Angelica (9:03:23 PM): Thought. Extra vote against Ralph is probably bad.
spies4Zander (9:03:43 PM): Extra vote against Ralph tonight can guarantee him leaving
spies4Angelica (9:03:55 PM): But if he doesn't leave, it clears him.
spies4Zander (9:03:56 PM): I told Faizah I thought it was bad and she insisted
spies4Zander (9:04:00 PM): He will
spies4Zander (9:04:04 PM): if we use the extra vote, he leaves
spies4Zander (9:04:07 PM): Singe is voting him
spies4Zander (9:04:09 PM): You're voting him
spies4Zander (9:04:28 PM): Faizah, Abrams, and mystery vote
spies4Zander (9:05:01 PM): Versus Adelaide, Ralph, Cain, and MAYBE Summer voting for Abrams (But I think Summer will vote Ralph)
spies4Zander (9:05:12 PM): Me and Madison are not voting for either of them, cause we want Ralph to leave
spies4Zander (9:05:15 PM): and Kip is voting Faizah
spies4Zander (9:05:24 PM): Worst case scenario, 5-4-2-1
spies4Zander (9:05:28 PM): Ralph leaves
spies4Angelica (9:05:43 PM): God, this has disaster written all over it...
spies4Zander (9:05:45 PM): now if Singe is basically lying to set you guys up... You're screwed. So let's hope he doesn't vote randomly and let that happen
spies4Zander (9:05:54 PM): So let's hope Summer is locked in on Ralph already
spies4Zander (9:09:55 PM): I'm so good at directing Maddy
spies4Angelica (9:10:11 PM): Haha
spies4Zander (9:10:16 PM): spies4Zander (9:09:16 PM): Lol Honestly just vote for whoever you find the most suspicious, that's what I'm doing and if people blame me for it then they can f*** off, because the point of this game is to eliminate who you think is a spy
spies4Zander (9:11:23 PM): 50 minutes... I am so nervous
spies4Zander (9:11:41 PM): spies4Singe (9:02:16 PM): i honestly think there are 4-5 spies in the other half
spies4Zander (9:02:21 PM): I was just about to say that lol
spies4Singe (9:02:22 PM): and 2-3 crafty ones in ours
spies4Zander (9:11:59 PM): spies4Singe (9:02:30 PM): possibly you and summer

spies4Zander (9:12:04 PM): spies4Singe (9:02:40 PM): maybe faizah
spies4Singe (9:02:46 PM): whoever they are, they're good i think
spies4Zander (9:03:13 PM): I guess that's a compliment?
spies4Zander (9:03:15 PM): lol
spies4Zander (9:14:00 PM): Silly Singe... Why don't you pursue it?
spies4Angelica (9:14:26 PM): Be glad he isn't.
spies4Angelica (9:15:01 PM): Ugh, I don't know if I can vote Ralph!
spies4Angelica (9:15:45 PM): I'm afraid if I do and he wins the investigation he'll use it on me.
spies4Angelica (9:17:09 PM): Who are you and Maddy voting for?
spies4Zander (9:17:36 PM): I told Maddy I was voting for Summer and we analyzed the rest of her choices and she goes "I guess I'll just vote Summer with you then"
spies4Zander (9:17:53 PM): Angelica, if you don't vote Ralph, Ralph won't leave.
spies4Zander (9:18:03 PM): Gordy still suspects Naomi A LOT
spies4Zander (9:18:16 PM): And Gordy's not using the investigation on Ralph regardless...
spies4Zander (9:18:28 PM): If we don't get Ralph out now it's possible we never will... This is seriously like a do or die thing.
spies4Angelica (9:18:31 PM): That's what I'm trying to figure out. If I can vote Abrams and still have Ralph leave.
spies4Zander (9:18:37 PM): You can't
spies4Angelica (9:18:48 PM): Why the hell not! ><
spies4Zander (9:18:48 PM): any transfer of your vote to Abrams will put him either in a tie or over Ralph...
spies4Zander (9:19:44 PM): Adelaide, Ralph, Cain definitely against Abrams
spies4Zander (9:19:59 PM): Abrams, Faizah, Singe definitely against Ralph
spies4Zander (9:20:07 PM): Madison and myself definitely against Summer
spies4Zander (9:20:11 PM): Kip definitely against Faizah
spies4Zander (9:20:21 PM): there is a chance that Kip could change, Singe could change, and etcetera
spies4Zander (9:20:26 PM): and we don't know how Summer will vot
spies4Zander (9:20:27 PM): *vote
spies4Zander (9:20:38 PM): In which case it COULD tie between Abrams and Ralph if you don't vote for Ralph
spies4Zander (9:21:02 PM): And if Gordy gets mad at you then say "RALPH WAS THE MOST SUSPICIOUS PERSON IN THE GAME"
spies4Zander (9:23:31 PM): You know that if I could vote for Ralph, I would. It's a risk I would take, and it's a risk we need to take right now or we could very well be done regardless
spies4Angelica (9:24:08 PM): I know. I'm just desperatly trying to find some other way.
spies4Zander (9:24:32 PM): If you can guarantee that Summer is voting for Ralph and NOBODY will switch their vote to Abrams, then there's a way. But if you don't know that for sure, then you just outed Faizah as a spy
spies4Zander (9:24:40 PM): and kept Ralph in
spies4Zander (9:24:47 PM): There's still a chance Ralph is a spy
spies4Zander (9:24:50 PM): we can't forget that, at ALL
spies4Angelica (9:25:19 PM): .......blargh...
spies4Zander (9:26:25 PM): This sucks for all of us. We're all putting ourselves on the line to eliminate Ralph. And who knows, Singe could be setting 6 people up
spies4Zander (9:26:29 PM): But I don't think he is
spies4Zander (9:26:35 PM): We just can't risk it.
spies4Zander (9:35:33 PM): LOL Awkward. Summer starts IMing me and I was just like "Oh yeah cool balhb lah blah I gotta go I'll be back soon!"
spies4Angelica (9:35:51 PM): Huh>

Auto response from spies4Zander (9:35:51 PM): Be back shortly

spies4Zander (9:36:11 PM): Summer IMs me and she's like "I hope we get a spy tonight"... and I'm like "Yeah... Me too... I gotta go, be right back"
spies4Zander (9:36:18 PM): I don't want her to tlak to me about voting when I'm going to be voting for her!
spies4Angelica (9:36:30 PM): Oh, haha. Forgot
spies4Zander (9:38:13 PM): What do I do?
spies4Zander (9:41:53 PM): If I outright say I'm voting her, we could lose her vote for Ralph...
spies4Angelica (9:42:24 PM): Potentially.
spies4Zander (9:42:36 PM): Should you or Faizah try to push her for Ralph?
spies4Angelica (9:42:46 PM): She told me she's voting Ralph.
spies4Zander (9:42:47 PM): I don't even know how she's voting and it could be beneficial to find out in the very least
spies4Zander (9:42:49 PM): okay good
spies4Zander (9:45:55 PM): Please tell me you're voting Ralph
spies4Angelica (9:46:11 PM): As we speak.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (6:51:22 PM): Hey
spies4Singe (6:51:32 PM): hey bud inviting you
spies4Zander (6:51:44 PM): Awesome have I missed anything?
spies4Zander (7:02:33 PM): Singe, what should I do? I can't help but agree with you about Ralph but if I bandwagon on someone else, then Ralph won't go and I still see the most evidence against him than anyone else
spies4Zander (7:05:53 PM): He's such a waste of an investigation
spies4Singe (7:09:30 PM): yeah
spies4Singe (7:09:39 PM): what do you put him at?
spies4Singe (7:09:43 PM): 75% spy?
spies4Singe (7:09:46 PM): 50%?
spies4Zander (7:09:52 PM): Ralph?
spies4Singe (7:10:03 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (7:10:40 PM): Probably just upwards of 50... But I'm getting a little more suspicious because he got tons of recent support, which is funny since someone just recently pointed out that Ralph can't be a spy because nobody but Gordy has been protecting him?
spies4Zander (7:10:59 PM): I just see the most evidence against him
spies4Singe (7:11:26 PM): well, do you agree that ralph is either a cit or a minor spy?
spies4Singe (7:11:33 PM): and probably not on the team of 4?
spies4Zander (7:11:46 PM): Honestly I think he could be any
spies4Zander (7:12:04 PM): Is there a reason why he couldn't be in the group of 4?
spies4Singe (7:13:14 PM): well
spies4Singe (7:13:18 PM): if you believe he has a role
spies4Singe (7:13:26 PM): sam kind of said the minor spies have roles
spies4Singe (7:13:31 PM): to make up for the (-1)
spies4Zander (7:13:32 PM): (I really don't buy into that role...)
spies4Singe (7:13:38 PM): you think ralph made that role up?
spies4Singe (7:13:46 PM): he's not that creative, is he?
spies4Zander (7:13:57 PM): It doesn't seem like something Sam would throw in his games, is all
spies4Singe (7:14:04 PM): i guess his team could have fed it to him
spies4Singe (7:14:19 PM): well, what roles would help the minor team
spies4Singe (7:14:30 PM): a cop role would, they could hunt for majors
spies4Zander (7:14:32 PM): And the fact that he didn't understand it when he first got it just makes it seem like if someone asks him a question, it gives him favor to act confused and not have backing to it
spies4Zander (7:14:44 PM): which is ultimately, the best strategy when making a role claim - play stupid
spies4Singe (7:14:47 PM): yah
spies4Singe (7:14:55 PM): he really botched that claim
spies4Singe (7:15:03 PM): if he's a cit especially
spies4Singe (7:15:39 PM): if ralph dies as a cit what do we lose
spies4Singe (7:15:58 PM): we lose a guy who cant be imprisoned EVER
spies4Singe (7:16:06 PM): pretty much
spies4Zander (7:16:48 PM): Unless he made up his role as a citizen to protect himself, which is another possibility
spies4Zander (7:16:52 PM): and not something that hasn't been done before
spies4Zander (7:17:16 PM): I'm keeping in mind that Ralph is a claimed Survivor player, and things like that are huge for self-preservation.
spies4Zander (7:20:52 PM): I'm reading this chat Gordy sent me
spies4Zander (7:20:57 PM): about how Abrams was pushing hard for Ralph...
spies4Zander (7:21:09 PM): And even though Abrams is being an asshole, he makes a good point.
spies4Zander (7:21:22 PM): If Ralph DID have this immune from Imprisonment role, why didn't he come forward Day one and say it?
spies4Zander (7:21:47 PM): In the conversation he says it would have been stupid to straight out say he had it, but at the same time didn't he say at firs the didn't understand it?
spies4Singe (7:22:06 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (7:22:10 PM): Especially from someone who plays Survivor and cares about self-preservation, this shocks me
spies4Singe (7:22:17 PM): the right play actually was to claim cop
spies4Zander (7:22:22 PM): yeah
spies4Singe (7:22:23 PM): and get killed by the spies right away
spies4Singe (7:22:30 PM): but if he wanted to stick around
spies4Singe (7:22:38 PM): claiming would have kept him safe
spies4Zander (7:22:59 PM): It seems like all of his other actions made were to keep himself safe... That's why this one confuses me
spies4Zander (7:23:08 PM): he's not an experienced mafia player so the cop claim is clearly out of the question
spies4Zander (7:26:26 PM): God I still don't know what to do
spies4Singe (7:26:33 PM): im sticking with ralph
spies4Singe (7:26:38 PM): til i have a solid alternative
spies4Singe (7:26:45 PM): which isnt appearing
spies4Zander (7:27:00 PM): The Abrams/Adelaide/Madison bandwagon is exactly the type of spy defense that people were talking about Ralph NOT having.
spies4Singe (7:27:09 PM): seriously, this is like the dream role a spy makes up to protect himself under pressure
spies4Zander (7:27:11 PM): It's too convenient for me, but what the hell do I do with my vote?
spies4Singe (7:27:43 PM): "hi im a cit who cant be imprissed and the only way to fuck it up is if you exile me"
spies4Singe (7:27:59 PM): "oh yeah and you other spies impris me you die so nyeahhh"
spies4Zander (7:28:41 PM): More typos and you would have been spot on
spies4Singe (7:28:54 PM): lol
spies4Singe signed off at 8:03:21 PM.
spies4Singe signed on at 8:28:31 PM.
spies4Singe (8:53:54 PM): who ya voting?
spies4Zander (8:54:40 PM): Gurgh...
spies4Zander (8:54:45 PM): I'm between two people right now
spies4Singe (8:55:24 PM): who do you WANT exiled?
spies4Zander (8:55:57 PM): I'm thinking Summer. Out of all the people I can vote for, she is the one that raises my suspicions the most... From what I usually see in these games, Spies tend to play middle-ground, and she's doing just that, and trying to gain favor in small ways. It seems like a smart strategy
spies4Singe (8:56:51 PM): it wouldnt surprise me to see her come up spy
spies4Zander (8:57:10 PM): I think it's smartest to exile the person with the most evidence against them - Ralph. Especially with the HUGE PUSH for Abrams just because he is voting for Ralph...

But I still don't know.
spies4Zander (8:57:25 PM): It's the role claim that makes me nuts and unable to figure out what I want or how I want to vote
spies4Zander (8:58:08 PM): I don't know why he waited til the twist to come forward with that ability at all, considering at the twist it was revealed that spies can imprison spies...
spies4Zander (8:58:22 PM): UGH. I'm going insane right now
spies4Zander (8:59:02 PM): How about you?
spies4Singe (8:59:07 PM): im sticking with ralph
spies4Singe (8:59:14 PM): anything else would be a coinflip
spies4Zander (9:00:08 PM): In what way?
spies4Singe (9:01:51 PM): i dont really have a major suspicion out of the rest of our half
spies4Singe (9:02:16 PM): i honestly think there are 4-5 spies in the other half
spies4Zander (9:02:21 PM): I was just about to say that lol
spies4Singe (9:02:22 PM): and 2-3 crafty ones in ours
spies4Singe (9:02:30 PM): possibly you and summer
spies4Singe (9:02:40 PM): maybe faizah
spies4Singe (9:02:46 PM): whoever they are, they're good i think
spies4Zander (9:03:13 PM): I guess that's a compliment?
spies4Zander (9:03:15 PM): lol

[Zander]

spies4Gordy (6:53:10 PM): OMG
spies4Gordy (6:53:12 PM): how could you?
spies4Zander (6:53:16 PM): How could I what?
spies4Gordy (6:53:19 PM): that was not cool dude
spies4Zander (6:53:25 PM): what was not cool??
spies4Gordy (6:53:27 PM): who are you voting for ?
spies4Gordy (6:53:36 PM): sorry I needed a good intoduction to talk to you haha
spies4Zander (6:53:40 PM): lmao!
spies4Zander (6:54:09 PM): Um, I honestly still don't know. I locked my vote on Kip earlier, because I don't suspect any of the big targets right now that I would be able to vote for
spies4Zander (6:54:11 PM): so I still have no clue
spies4Gordy (6:55:46 PM): It's been Abrams and Madison
spies4Gordy (6:55:50 PM): no one will vote for Kip
spies4Gordy (6:56:04 PM): We saved Ralph hon!
spies4Gordy (6:56:06 PM): Yay!
spies4Gordy (6:56:08 PM):
spies4Zander (6:56:13 PM): :-P
spies4Zander (6:56:29 PM): Told you I wouldn't campaign against him
spies4Gordy (6:56:39 PM): because you gave your points to Singe asshole
spies4Zander (6:56:55 PM): You both gave me good reasons on who to give my points to, so I'm sorry if you're mad about it
spies4Gordy (6:57:46 PM): you abandoned your family
spies4Gordy (6:57:49 PM): for the sake of Singe
spies4Gordy (6:57:53 PM): that is unacceptable haha
spies4Gordy (6:57:54 PM): I love you
spies4Zander (6:57:55 PM): :-P
spies4Zander (6:58:05 PM): Everyone agrees our family is the most fucked up lol
spies4Gordy (6:58:15 PM): LOL
spies4Gordy (6:58:26 PM): \anyways what you missed out on was that Abrams insisted Ralph be exiled
spies4Gordy (6:58:34 PM): and everyone else was getting pissed Abrams was fighting a lost cause
spies4Gordy (6:58:40 PM): because only a spy would want to insist on framing Ralph
spies4Gordy (6:58:48 PM): who isa cit
spies4Zander (6:59:35 PM): I guess that's pretty incriminating
spies4Zander (6:59:40 PM): I'd rather see a log before I make up my mind though
spies4Gordy (6:59:59 PM): want me to PM you it?
spies4Gordy (7:00:01 PM): but it's HELLA long
spies4Gordy (7:00:14 PM):
spies4Zander (7:00:34 PM): Sure if you want to
spies4Zander (7:00:40 PM): or you can just PM important parts
spies4Gordy (7:02:20 PM): I'll try
spies4Gordy (7:08:18 PM): pm
spies4Gordy (7:08:19 PM): sent
spies4Zander (7:08:44 PM): K I'm gonna check it out right now
spies4Gordy (7:14:43 PM): TRACIEOWNAGE is back in a big way!
spies4Gordy (7:14:52 PM): TRACIEOWNAGE!!!!!!
spies4Zander (7:14:59 PM): Who on earth is Tracie Ownage, haha
spies4Gordy (7:15:18 PM): Tracie Kelely was ROBBED of a spot on Survivor Cook ISlands
spies4Gordy (7:15:19 PM): ROBBED!!!!!
spies4Zander (7:15:35 PM): aw
spies4Gordy (7:16:47 PM): have you made your voting deicison hon?
spies4Zander (7:17:22 PM): Still no
spies4Zander (7:17:39 PM): I'm still scrolling over the Abrams convo
spies4Gordy (7:17:50 PM): he's about as bright as a piece of lint
spies4Zander (7:19:26 PM): hah!
spies4Gordy (7:19:59 PM): I will not lose to Singe
spies4Gordy (7:20:14 PM): I will win it, including having to throw you in front of a falling acorn
spies4Gordy (7:20:17 PM): to win
spies4Gordy is away at 7:21:48 PM.
spies4Zander (7:25:03 PM): Well he certainly pushed really, really, really hard
Auto response from spies4Gordy (7:25:03 PM): Chasing Ralph with my spatula

spies4Gordy (7:30:40 PM): what do you think of Abrams now?
spies4Zander (7:31:19 PM): I think some of his arguments were validated, but he tried incredibly hard and I'm not so sure why
spies4Gordy (7:32:22 PM): because he is a SPY
spies4Gordy (7:32:32 PM): at least I hope so lol. He's a dumbass either way
spies4Zander (7:32:42 PM): Look at how many people say the same about Ralph though :-P
spies4Gordy (7:32:53 PM): but most changed their mind at the chat
spies4Gordy (7:33:11 PM): if Ralph
spies4Gordy (7:33:19 PM): is the martyr then no one will imprison him
spies4Zander (7:33:24 PM): I don't know, I'm sick of all of these bandwagons overall. I still have no clue how I'm voting and I just need to sit and think on my own
spies4Gordy (7:33:36 PM): just don't vote for Faizah like Kip said lol.
spies4Gordy (7:33:41 PM): dunno why
spies4Zander (7:33:46 PM): Lol, what?
spies4Gordy (7:33:53 PM): Kip said don't anyone vote for Faizah
spies4Zander (7:34:04 PM): Random
spies4Gordy (7:35:10 PM): you're going to vote randomly?
spies4Gordy (7:35:18 PM): aww
spies4Zander (7:35:34 PM): I'm not vote Randomly lol
spies4Zander (7:35:42 PM): I think Kip saying not to vote for Faizah is random
spies4Zander (7:35:55 PM): I'm voting for who, out of my options, I think is the most suspicious
spies4Gordy (7:36:59 PM): yay! ZANDEROWNAGE!
spies4Gordy (7:37:19 PM): ZANDEROWNAGE is back in a big way!
spies4Zander (7:37:21 PM): HAHA!
spies4Gordy (7:37:28 PM): <3 Anelise
spies4Zander (7:37:38 PM): ? lol
spies4Gordy (7:38:07 PM): if you kiss my teddy bear I will give you apples
spies4Gordy (7:38:24 PM): and a chainsaw to rip Candy's vaginal walls open
spies4Zander (7:38:41 PM): YES!
spies4Gordy (7:39:05 PM): *sigh*
spies4Gordy (7:39:09 PM): I mis the formal Zander
spies4Zander (7:40:05 PM): I miss being in one big group so I can vote for who I freaking suspect the most
spies4Gordy (7:40:46 PM): Tracie?
spies4Zander (7:41:00 PM): Ownage?
spies4Zander (7:41:16 PM): I don't suspect her of being a spy. She's back in a big way
spies4Gordy (7:41:39 PM): haha!
spies4Gordy (7:41:44 PM): you are so silly
spies4Gordy returned at 9:59:57 PM.

[Zander]

spies4Faizah (6:55:39 PM): we need Ralph gone
spies4Faizah (6:55:44 PM): you need to not vote Abrams or Madison
spies4Faizah (6:55:49 PM): if at all possible
spies4Zander (6:55:49 PM): That was my plan all along
spies4Zander (6:55:51 PM): and Singe knew it too
spies4Zander (6:55:54 PM): so he can't turn it on me
spies4Faizah (6:57:17 PM): because it would be me, angel, singe, abrams voting Ralph
spies4Faizah (6:57:22 PM): and im assuming Summer?
spies4Faizah (6:57:29 PM): and maybe even Madison if she doesnt come back online before then
spies4Zander (6:57:31 PM): I'm locked on Cain but I need to change it
spies4Faizah (6:57:57 PM): why?
spies4Faizah (6:58:03 PM): Thats fine....because I dont think he is going
spies4Zander (6:58:17 PM): I dunno why lol
spies4Zander (6:58:21 PM): He trusts me
spies4Zander (6:58:27 PM): I don't want to give him a vote if he trusts me
spies4Faizah (6:58:31 PM): hmmmm
spies4Faizah (6:58:39 PM): what about like Angelica?
spies4Zander (6:58:43 PM): Who should we throw the extra vote on?
spies4Faizah (6:58:46 PM): She isnt going,and you could just say you suspected her
spies4Faizah (6:58:47 PM): RALPH
spies4Zander (6:58:47 PM): Let's talk to Angie first
spies4Faizah (6:58:48 PM): we need too.
spies4Faizah is away at 7:03:08 PM.
spies4Zander (7:28:20 PM): Stick to your guns with ralph

Auto response from spies4Faizah (7:28:20 PM): brb

spies4Faizah (7:28:33 PM): I am, dont worry
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spies4Zander (7:29:10 PM): Who should I vote for? Seriously
spies4Faizah (7:29:23 PM): Well, if I were you I wold do a throw away
spies4Zander (7:29:23 PM): If I vote for Abrams or Adelaide, there's a good chance they go instead of Ralph
spies4Zander (7:29:29 PM): I hope Madison doesn't self-vote
spies4Faizah (7:29:30 PM): but someone you could back it up with
spies4Zander (7:29:44 PM): I'm locked in on Cain right now, but with no reason and proof that Cain thinks I'm a cit.
spies4Zander (7:29:52 PM): Knowing Cain said he trusts Ralph, that's a stupid choice
spies4Zander (7:30:04 PM): Who could I back up voting for though? Kip?
spies4Zander (7:30:38 PM): Angelica said if I voted her there's a good chance I'd need to make sure I have a reason
spies4Zander (7:30:44 PM): and if Gordy trusts her, that's a stupid choice if Ralph does leave
spies4Faizah (7:30:53 PM): well, do you trust Bev
spies4Faizah (7:31:01 PM): if so, I have a perfect angle for you to vote Angelica
spies4Faizah (7:31:05 PM): Because she is pushing an Angelica vote
spies4Faizah (7:31:13 PM): and you could say I told you about it...and you went through with it
spies4Faizah (7:31:18 PM): But I stuck to Ralph
spies4Faizah (7:31:29 PM): Or you wanted to vote for Ralph...couldnt, so went along with Bevs plan, which I told you.
spies4Zander (7:31:40 PM): I don't trust Bev though, and I've told a few people that
spies4Faizah (7:31:48 PM): hmmmm
spies4Zander (7:31:48 PM): She IMed me about it
spies4Zander (7:31:53 PM): and I just said I'd keep my eye out
spies4Zander (7:34:13 PM): Why did Kip tell people not to vote for you?
spies4Faizah (7:35:07 PM): cuz he is
spies4Faizah (7:35:09 PM): as a throw away
spies4Faizah (7:35:10 PM): brb
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spies4Zander (7:35:26 PM): Then that gives me reason to vote for him, correct?

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spies4Faizah returned at 8:47:14 PM.
spies4Faizah (8:47:27 PM): Yea, Kip wouldnt be a bad vote
spies4Zander (8:47:35 PM): I'm voting Summer.
spies4Zander (8:47:45 PM): Voting Kip because Kip is voting you just makes me look like a hypocrite
spies4Faizah (8:47:48 PM): rofl, even better
spies4Zander (8:47:50 PM): I can actually defend a vote against Summer
spies4Faizah (8:47:50 PM): yea thats true
spies4Zander (8:47:57 PM): She's the ONLY vote I can defend right now
spies4Faizah (8:48:00 PM): God, I really really REALLY hope Ralph goes
spies4Faizah (8:48:11 PM): but do you thik if we extra vote Ralph, people will think the people who did vote Ralph are spies?
spies4Zander (8:48:18 PM): He won't, Abrams will. But I really really hope Abrams is a citizen
spies4Zander (8:48:32 PM): Ralph's not going. Guaranteed.
spies4Zander (8:48:42 PM): It might be smarter to just give the extra vote to Abrams to keep us clear
spies4Faizah (8:48:43 PM): Why???
spies4Zander (8:48:55 PM): Because he did what everyone suspected he would - he got the support to stay
spies4Faizah (8:49:03 PM): me, summer, madison, abrams, singe, angelica, extra
spies4Zander (8:49:03 PM): Now he's being promised to be given an investigation which won't actually happen anyway
spies4Zander (8:49:08 PM): Madison can't vote him
spies4Faizah (8:49:15 PM): ok, 6 then
spies4Faizah (8:49:17 PM): which is still enough
spies4Faizah (8:49:31 PM): plus your vote is basically nothing
spies4Faizah (8:49:33 PM): so is kips
spies4Zander (8:49:35 PM): Cain, Ralph, Adelaide...
spies4Faizah (8:49:57 PM): we only have 9 voters
spies4Faizah (8:50:01 PM): with two throw away
spies4Zander (8:50:01 PM): Maybe Singe will change...
spies4Faizah (8:50:03 PM): we only need 5
spies4Faizah (8:50:07 PM): Singe is not changing
spies4Zander (8:50:10 PM): Madison will probably vote for Summer like I want her to...
spies4Faizah (8:50:11 PM): nor is Abrams
spies4Faizah (8:50:13 PM): or me, or Angel
spies4Zander (8:50:26 PM): Okay then, let's keep it on Ralph then
spies4Zander (8:50:59 PM): and pray 1. I'm not accused by Gordy who clearly knows my ID, and 2. We're not targeted from it
spies4Faizah (8:51:19 PM): but I have a strong feeling Ralph is a spy
spies4Faizah (8:51:20 PM): dont you?
spies4Zander (8:51:23 PM): I do too
spies4Zander (8:51:26 PM): I REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE HE IS
spies4Faizah (8:51:48 PM): if he is not, we are so screwed.
spies4Faizah (8:51:48 PM): lol
spies4Zander (8:51:55 PM): Cain's asking me if I want Ralph gone
spies4Zander (8:52:03 PM): and I'm basically saying stuff to try to catch HIM in lies
spies4Faizah (8:52:20 PM): im so nervous about this vote
spies4Faizah (8:52:29 PM): but locks are Me, Angel, Abrams, Singe, Extra
spies4Zander (8:52:30 PM): Me too. This will either be amazing or the worst move we could have made
spies4Faizah (8:52:33 PM): thats 5.
spies4Zander (8:52:41 PM): I have no idea how Summer will vote
spies4Faizah (8:52:46 PM): She told me Ralph
spies4Faizah (8:52:51 PM): but that was on Friday
spies4Faizah (8:53:00 PM): but she was adamnent on him, and didnt want it to change
spies4Zander (8:53:06 PM): if she votes Abrams, then it could be ... .Adelaide, Ralph, Cain, and Summer. Which still gives us the lead
spies4Faizah (8:53:50 PM): Adel, Madison, Ralph, Cain would be the only block I can see voting for Abrams
spies4Faizah (8:53:53 PM): and thats just 4 votes.
spies4Zander (8:54:06 PM): spies4Zander (8:52:14 PM): Do you fully believe his role?
spies4Cain (8:52:53 PM): i think weather or not his role is real
spies4Cain (8:53:06 PM): if he is a cit the spies will be too afraid to even take the chance of trying to imprison him
spies4Faizah (8:54:09 PM): And if Ralph is a spy....Gordy is 100% one too.
spies4Zander (8:54:13 PM): spies4Zander (8:53:24 PM): But note that he didn't come forward with this role claim til after the twist
spies4Zander (8:53:35 PM): When everyone found out SPIES can imprison SPIES
spies4Zander (8:53:45 PM): all of it just seems so odd and coincidental, I think
spies4Zander (8:54:21 PM): Don't be so sure
spies4Zander (8:54:25 PM): I think Gordy's the Fatemaker
spies4Faizah (8:54:42 PM): Then why would he defend Ralph so hard?
spies4Faizah (8:54:48 PM): Thats what doesnt add up for me
spies4Zander (8:58:48 PM): Just to have a close ally?
spies4Faizah (8:59:04 PM): I guess
spies4Faizah (8:59:14 PM): Im just afraid if Ralph goes and is citizen...all hell will break loose
spies4Faizah (8:59:22 PM): but I mean, the guy is suspicious and an idiot.
spies4Faizah (8:59:26 PM): its his own fault if he goes
spies4Zander (9:00:21 PM): I pray to God it's him that leaves
spies4Zander (9:00:23 PM): if not we are FUCKED
spies4Faizah (9:00:36 PM): Yep
spies4Zander (9:00:50 PM): I HAVE to make sure Madison doesn't vote Abrams, since she wants Ralph gone
spies4Faizah (9:01:16 PM): Yea, thats true
spies4Zander (9:02:04 PM): Note that Madison defends Abrams

[Zander]

spies4Zander (7:43:47 PM): Hey hey
spies4Cain (7:44:06 PM): hey whats up
spies4Zander (7:44:18 PM): Not too much, how's it going?
spies4Cain (7:47:07 PM): i'm slightly annoyed lol
spies4Zander (7:48:31 PM): How come?
spies4Cain (7:48:54 PM): over the whole ralph thing
spies4Zander (7:49:40 PM): In which way? That Ralph is still suspected, or that Ralph is less suspected?
spies4Cain (7:50:02 PM): niether
spies4Cain (7:50:17 PM): that people still want to vote ralph when he is gonig to be investigated
spies4Zander (7:50:18 PM): lol! So just that people are being dramatic as usual?
spies4Cain (7:50:32 PM): if he is innocent and has that role
spies4Cain (7:50:37 PM): he is a HUGE help to the cits
spies4Zander (7:50:51 PM): *Being honest here - Gordy trusts Ralph 100% basically. I think if he wins the investigation he won't even use it on Ralph like he's saying he will...*
spies4Cain (7:51:08 PM): several people have said that
spies4Zander (7:51:23 PM): Do you know how you're voting?
spies4Cain (7:51:37 PM): no
spies4Cain (7:51:45 PM): i want to vote with people so ralph doesn't go
spies4Cain (7:51:51 PM): how about you?
spies4Zander (7:52:13 PM): I just want to vote for who I suspect the most in our group. But that's taking me a really long time just to figure out
spies4Zander (7:53:17 PM): I think Abrams and Ralph are the main two targets, and I find no more evidence against Abrams than I do Ralph
spies4Zander (7:55:20 PM): From what I gather a lot of people don't know what they're doing still...
spies4Cain (8:01:41 PM): i just think it is strange that some of these people want ralph out so bad
spies4Cain (8:01:49 PM): if he is investigated and found to be a cit
spies4Cain (8:01:58 PM): that is a huge huge HUGE advantage for the cits
spies4Zander (8:03:16 PM): No, it's a great point, either way his investigation does us a world of good... And anyone that contests it is honestly not to go unnoticed
spies4Cain (8:03:52 PM): the 3 people who seem to be very against it are abrams singe and angelica
spies4Zander (8:04:14 PM): Yeah, everyone else seems to at least be open to it
spies4Cain (8:04:31 PM): spies4Angelica (7:57:20 PM): Honestly, I don't trust him enough even if he is a Citizen. Yes, we would have someone we could be 100% honest with. But what if he repeats it to a Spy? We could be doomed.
spies4Zander (8:05:01 PM): Wait what?
spies4Zander (8:05:06 PM): If he repeats what? lol
spies4Cain (8:05:14 PM): info that cits tell him
spies4Cain (8:05:18 PM): yuck i hate this font
spies4Cain (8:05:19 PM): h/o
spies4Cain (8:05:33 PM): there
spies4Cain (8:05:35 PM): better
spies4Zander (8:05:42 PM): haha!
spies4Cain (8:29:47 PM): well do you know who you are voting
spies4Zander (8:30:43 PM): I'm still iffy...
spies4Zander (8:31:27 PM): This is by far the hardest vote yet...
spies4Zander (8:31:44 PM): My gut is telling me Adelaide or Summer
spies4Cain (8:31:45 PM): do you know how everyone else voted
spies4Zander (8:32:17 PM): Not exactly certain, but Angelica seems set on Ralph
spies4Zander (8:34:16 PM): Singe said he was voting Ralph earlier but who knows...
spies4Zander (8:34:20 PM): I think most of the other votes are on Abrams
spies4Cain (8:35:49 PM): then i think i may vote abrams as well
spies4Cain (8:35:55 PM): i want ralph to stay
spies4Zander (8:36:27 PM): Genuine question - Do you want Ralph to stay because you think he's a citizen, or do you want Ralph to stay because you want him to be investigated?
spies4Cain (8:37:17 PM): i want ralph to stay because i hope he is a citizen and i want him to get invested
spies4Cain (8:37:28 PM): if he is a cit he is the cits best asset
spies4Zander (8:37:55 PM): But is there one of those you lean towards more?
spies4Cain (8:38:37 PM): what do you mean
spies4Zander (8:39:13 PM): Like which one of those is more of your motivation to keep Ralph, or are they both equal?
spies4Cain (8:39:55 PM): i jsut told you my reason for keepin him
spies4Zander (8:41:07 PM): Cain, I know you did lol
spies4Cain (8:41:09 PM): do you not want him to stay?
spies4Zander (8:41:14 PM): I"m asking if there's one more motivating factor, is all
spies4Zander (8:41:46 PM): It's not that I want Ralph to go, but I want to vote for who I suspect the most.
spies4Cain (8:42:00 PM): i want him to be investigated b/c if he is a cit then he is a huge help to the cits
spies4Cain (8:42:19 PM): the only way spies could get him out is if one of the msacriface themselves
spies4Zander (8:42:46 PM): Okay, sorry about that, I just wanted to know if you wanted him around more cause you thought he was a citizen or more cause you wanted him investigated
spies4Zander (8:43:13 PM): I probably just didn't read it right the first time
spies4Cain (8:44:21 PM): well the question is
spies4Cain (8:44:29 PM): do you want ralph to stay and get investigated
spies4Zander (8:45:37 PM): I just think a lot of people are using Ralph being investigated to protect themselves from being investigated. Honestly, I agree that if Ralph IS a citizen it helps us to have him here. But I'm still concerned about his role claim
spies4Cain (8:45:58 PM): what are you converned about?
spies4Zander (8:45:59 PM): I don't know if Sam would put something like that in the game, and it could just be 1. Him trying to keep himself in the game as a citizen or a spy.
spies4Zander (8:46:16 PM): If you look at Singe's post in the burg it basically explains what he and I talked about
spies4Zander (8:52:14 PM): Do you fully believe his role?
spies4Cain (8:52:53 PM): i think weather or not his role is real
spies4Cain (8:53:06 PM): if he is a cit the spies will be too afraid to even take the chance of trying to imprison him
spies4Zander (8:53:24 PM): But note that he didn't come forward with this role claim til after the twist
spies4Zander (8:53:35 PM): When everyone found out SPIES can imprison SPIES
spies4Zander (8:53:45 PM): all of it just seems so odd and coincidental, I think
spies4Cain (8:56:02 PM): and if he is a cit?
spies4Zander (8:56:32 PM): Then I think his role is still probably a lie. It just doesn't seem like something Sam would do
spies4Zander (8:56:39 PM): But again, having a confirmed citizen is good
spies4Cain (9:01:47 PM): well im gonig to go for a bit watch some tv
spies4Cain (9:01:51 PM): i'll be back later
spies4Zander (9:03:32 PM): Okay, I'll see you soon man
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spies4Cain (9:48:36 PM): have you voted
spies4Zander (9:50:30 PM): Yes
Auto response from spies4Cain (9:50:31 PM): I am away from my computer right now.

spies4Cain (9:50:46 PM): for who
spies4Zander (9:51:18 PM): Summer

[Zander]

spies4Masaki (8:05:30 PM): Hey Z
spies4Zander (8:05:34 PM): Hey man
spies4Zander (8:05:37 PM): What's up?
spies4Masaki (8:05:46 PM): It's just been a nutty day
spies4Masaki (8:05:54 PM): As far as Spies goes
spies4Zander (8:09:55 PM): Yeah, I'm not surprised that the vote has turned from Ralph
spies4Zander (8:09:58 PM): what are your thoughts on everything?
spies4Masaki (8:13:05 PM): I can see where they're coming from
spies4Masaki (8:13:31 PM): But honestly I think it's more likely that Ralph is a Spy in the first place, so the whole idea of having him as a confirmed Citizen who is immortal, although nice in theory, is more than likely not going to wind up being the case.
spies4Masaki (8:13:41 PM): So wasting an investigation on him is, well, wasting an investigation
spies4Masaki (8:13:48 PM): But I guess if that's what winds up happening, let's hope he IS a Citizen
spies4Zander (8:15:15 PM): Finally someone else that thinks it's a wasted investigation
spies4Zander (8:15:20 PM): I don't even think Gordy will actually investigate him
spies4Zander (8:15:23 PM): He'll just say he did
spies4Masaki (8:18:45 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (8:18:50 PM): That's why my points went to Singe
spies4Zander (8:18:54 PM): Mmhmm
spies4Masaki (8:18:54 PM): Gordy is biased, and we don't know why
spies4Masaki (8:18:59 PM): Singe obviously isn't
spies4Zander (8:19:41 PM): This is what I don't get... Why investigate someone who we would normally just exile next? We should use it on someone who seems to be laying low and could very well be a spy, but won't have much support
spies4Masaki (8:20:10 PM): Yeah...
spies4Zander (8:22:09 PM): I still don't even know who the hell to vote.
spies4Masaki (8:26:11 PM): Yeah tough choice when you can't place your vote on Ralph

[Zander]

spies4madison (8:23:57 PM): hey zand
spies4Zander (8:24:03 PM): MADDY! Finally
spies4madison (8:24:09 PM): :-) hey darling.
spies4madison (8:24:18 PM): whats the word on the street
spies4Zander (8:24:19 PM): How are you?
spies4madison (8:24:22 PM): im tired
spies4madison (8:24:23 PM): really tired
spies4madison (8:24:27 PM): i was out til 6am last night
spies4Zander (8:24:37 PM): I honestly don't even know right now... From what I hear it's between Ralph and Abrams
spies4madison (8:24:42 PM): right
spies4madison (8:24:50 PM): how come abrhams? ive read about ralph
spies4Zander (8:25:07 PM): Apparently Abrams was pushing for Ralph to go
spies4madison (8:25:28 PM): so ralph b/c of all that shit, and abrhams b/c he wants ralph to go? haha
spies4madison (8:25:30 PM): i love it.
spies4madison (8:25:36 PM): sorry if i was a bitch at last exile
spies4madison (8:25:38 PM): i was so pissed.
spies4Zander (8:25:55 PM): My vote is on Summer right now, since she's the person I suspect most that I can actually vote for, I think it makes sense to vote for her
spies4Zander (8:26:00 PM): I wasn't even there so don't worry lol
spies4Zander (8:26:02 PM): I'd be mad if I was you too
spies4madison (8:26:08 PM): it was such bullshit
spies4madison (8:26:12 PM): i was like SERIOUSLY
spies4Zander (8:26:32 PM): Either way from what I gather you're not in danger tonight so you can relax
spies4Zander (8:26:42 PM): I've heard your name come up but it seems like Abrams will be a huge bandwagon
spies4madison (8:26:43 PM): yeah, but i wanna help axe a spy
spies4Zander (8:27:07 PM): I don't really think Abrams is
spies4Zander (8:27:27 PM): ESPECIALLY not because he wants to vote Ralph lol
spies4madison (8:27:51 PM): right
spies4madison (8:27:54 PM): right right
spies4madison (8:27:55 PM): that makes sense
spies4madison (8:28:07 PM): i wanted to ask, are the two spy groups... like is one with one group and one with another?
spies4Zander (8:28:25 PM): You look at everything we know and Ralph has the most evidence against him. So what do people do? Naturally lead a bandwagon against someone who makes a logical choice
spies4Zander (8:28:32 PM): That's what I asked to Masaki and Singe and they said probably not
spies4Zander (8:28:36 PM): since a Citizen made the decision
spies4madison (8:28:50 PM): right OH yeah i forgot that
spies4Zander (8:29:00 PM): Yeah lol I was confused too
spies4Zander (8:29:13 PM): So who do you think you will vote for?
spies4madison (8:30:02 PM): well
spies4madison (8:30:07 PM): why do you think summer?
spies4madison (8:30:11 PM): i just want to be well informed
spies4Zander (8:30:33 PM): I think Summer is quick to act simply because it could clear her name
spies4madison (8:30:42 PM): right
spies4madison (8:30:48 PM): are their suspicions about her?
spies4Zander (8:31:06 PM): Probably not popular ones... It just seems like every time I talk to her she is trying to push me in a certain direction
spies4Zander (8:31:14 PM): I think some people think she should be investigated
spies4madison (8:32:35 PM): right
spies4Zander (8:33:25 PM): To me, she seems to be playing a perfect middle-ground spy game, and that just makes me more suspicious than some other stuff going on
spies4madison (8:34:04 PM): yeah
spies4madison (8:34:06 PM): i know what you mean
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spies4madison (8:46:02 PM): i might just go ahead and vote for ralph
spies4Zander (8:46:23 PM): But you can't do that! lol
spies4madison (8:46:42 PM): oh fuck
spies4madison (8:46:42 PM): haha
spies4madison (8:46:44 PM): you're right
spies4Zander (8:46:46 PM): :-P
spies4madison (8:46:58 PM): im a dumbass :-)
spies4Zander (8:51:17 PM): Not being able to vote for Ralph has driven me nuts
spies4Zander (8:51:19 PM): he's my #1 suspect
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spies4madison (8:52:30 PM): yeah
spies4madison (8:52:32 PM): it does suck
spies4Zander (9:00:34 PM): Any thoughts on your vote yet?
spies4madison (9:00:47 PM): well if i can't vote for ralph
spies4madison (9:00:49 PM): then...
spies4madison (9:00:51 PM): fucks.
spies4madison (9:00:53 PM): umm
spies4Zander (9:00:54 PM): haha
spies4madison (9:01:32 PM): well i dont tihnk abrhams is a spy
spies4Zander (9:01:40 PM): It's basically between Ralph and Abrams, so for me I voted for the person I was most suspicious of besides Ralph, which is Summer. That way Ralph could still leave and we could stille xile a spy this round
spies4madison (9:02:06 PM): right
spies4madison (9:02:09 PM): maybe ill do that too
spies4madison (9:02:13 PM): but i dont want people to be like
spies4madison (9:02:20 PM): omg zands and mads voted together
spies4madison (9:02:22 PM): you knoe
spies4Zander (9:02:33 PM): You mean like they already think we're spies together? OMGZ!
spies4Zander (9:02:34 PM): haha
spies4Zander (9:02:51 PM): No I can't blame you at all, but if we both suspect Ralph the most it would be totally foolish to vote for Abrams
spies4madison (9:02:52 PM): hahaha
spies4madison (9:02:58 PM): yep
spies4Zander (9:03:00 PM): especially for me when I have no inclination to find him to be a spy at all
spies4madison (9:03:03 PM): agreed
spies4madison (9:03:56 PM): it'd only look bad if ralph isnt a spy i guess
spies4madison (9:04:57 PM): thats what i'll do.
spies4madison (9:05:03 PM): ill just have to be around to defend it.
spies4Zander (9:06:10 PM): As always the eyes will always come to us first...
spies4madison (9:06:19 PM): yep
spies4madison (9:06:28 PM): do you suggest something different?
spies4madison (9:06:38 PM): im not going to vote for abrhams i dont think he's a spy and i can't spell his name
spies4Zander (9:06:39 PM): I told Cain I wasn't sure if I wanted Ralph gone, just to see his reactions. He seems to defend Ralph a lot
spies4madison (9:06:41 PM): i can't vote for ralph
spies4Zander (9:06:47 PM): lol
spies4Zander (9:06:51 PM): Ambramrmsms
spies4madison (9:06:53 PM): if i vote summer with you people will through a hissy fit again
spies4Zander (9:07:13 PM): Well your other options are... Adelaide, Singe, Faizah, Cain, Angelica, and Kip
spies4Zander (9:07:37 PM): I stressed for like 2 hours about how to vote and finally made up my mind on Summer over Kip and Angelica
spies4madison (9:07:51 PM): well maybe angelica. whtas up with her?
spies4Zander (9:07:55 PM): I heard Adelaide was flip-flopping like nuts today
spies4madison (9:07:59 PM): oh really?
spies4madison (9:08:01 PM): hmmm.
spies4Zander (9:08:07 PM): Um, I don't know, she seems to be really smart but not contributing anything of substance
spies4Zander (9:08:12 PM): She's really tight with Gordy
spies4madison (9:08:17 PM): yeah she is
spies4madison (9:08:43 PM): well. ill just vote summer.
spies4Zander (9:09:16 PM): Lol Honestly just vote for whoever you find the most suspicious, that's what I'm doing and if people blame me for it then they can f*** off, because the point of this game is to eliminate who you think is a spy
spies4madison (9:17:27 PM): yeah, i agree with you
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*Sigh* I love Maddy. I hope we stick around for a while. She's just awesome. Even if she has nothing to say.