Episode VI Conversations

[Zander]

[Zander]

spies4Zander (12:58:14 AM): I drink too much
spies4Candy (12:58:21 AM): MAGIC BOY
spies4Candy (12:58:23 AM): Tell me a secret
spies4Zander (12:58:37 AM): A secret?
spies4Zander (12:58:45 AM): I don't have any, read my profile lol
spies4Candy (1:10:17 AM): Whatever
spies4Candy (1:10:18 AM): It's done
spies4Zander (1:10:20 AM): It's not the only reason, Candy
spies4Candy (1:10:26 AM): Move past it
spies4Candy (1:10:27 AM): Who's next
spies4Zander (1:10:35 AM): I honestly don't have a problem if it makes you mistrust me, I'm just telling you why, and that's part of the reason
spies4Zander (1:10:52 AM): What do you mean who's next?
spies4Candy (1:11:34 AM): Next exile
spies4Zander (1:11:57 AM): I honestly don't know, I don't control what everyone else thinks
spies4Zander (1:12:41 AM): I still suspect Naomi the most. Nothing has cleared her and her lack of vote for Beverly makes sense if they wanted to try to keep Bev around
spies4Zander (1:13:44 AM): If she's not a 100% spy then I officially suck, and okay, but I just don't think she is being honest with anyone, and a lot of her defenses seem more counter-argumentative than actually point-proving
spies4Candy (1:14:03 AM): There's little doubt left to me that Naomi is a spy
spies4Candy (1:14:10 AM): I think her vote last round was a game-ending move
spies4Candy (1:14:19 AM): And I really think Cain's with her
spies4Zander (1:14:26 AM): Do you think it clears Damon?
spies4Candy (1:15:23 AM): The one thing that makes me hesitate above all else is that he voted for her on his very first day in the game
spies4Candy (1:15:42 AM): Imagine being thrown into this game with like 27 people running around
spies4Candy (1:15:52 AM): And now you're told to vote for a cospy on day 1
spies4Candy (1:15:58 AM): Maybe he's an orthodoxy spy
spies4Candy (1:16:03 AM): But I don't think he's a traditionalist
spies4Zander (1:16:19 AM): Naomi voted for Beverly on the first day
spies4Zander (1:16:26 AM): So if they're co-spies, then I wouldn't discount it
spies4Candy (1:16:30 AM): Not the very first day
spies4Candy (1:16:37 AM): They had time to plan that in between roles given out and exile 21
spies4Candy (1:16:39 AM): exile 1
spies4Candy (1:16:49 AM): We're talking Damon's very first day in the game
spies4Zander (1:16:50 AM): Oh...
spies4Candy (1:17:07 AM): Bev had no problem with her cospies voting for her though
spies4Candy (1:17:13 AM): She told Emma in round 3 to vote for her
spies4Candy (1:17:19 AM): Emma idled out though
spies4Zander (1:18:27 AM): I guess I'm just confused... The votes are obviously not a surefire way for us to figure out who is a spy since more than 1 person has voted for Beverly before this past exile
spies4Candy (1:18:35 AM): They are more surefire than you think
spies4Candy (1:18:49 AM): When they all tie up together there are some pretty good leads
spies4Candy (1:18:57 AM): The last few votes have been very revealing
spies4Zander (1:19:09 AM): In what ways though?
spies4Candy (1:21:09 AM): Last round's votes are one example
spies4Candy (1:21:16 AM): And the round 1 votes
spies4Candy (1:21:21 AM): Hell
spies4Candy (1:21:26 AM): Except for round 4 they are all really revealing
spies4Candy (1:21:30 AM): I've noticed things in all of them
spies4Candy (1:21:34 AM): I want you to tell me what you see though
spies4Candy (1:21:37 AM): In case you see something I don't
spies4Zander (1:22:08 AM): I honestly don't know, I'm not saying voting history is useless at all because I think it is useful, but I'm hearing different ends of the spectrum
spies4Candy (1:22:18 AM): Like what
spies4Zander (1:22:44 AM): for example you accused me of being Beverly's spy-partner for not voting her out, but now you're saying that you think Naomi is definitely a spy, when I voted for her too
spies4Zander (1:22:48 AM): To me, that's confusing
spies4Candy (1:23:14 AM): Cain voted for Naomi
spies4Candy (1:23:17 AM): I think he's a spy
spies4Candy (1:23:22 AM): My reasons to me seem valid
spies4Zander (1:23:40 AM): I'm still confused...
spies4Candy (1:23:44 AM): And if you're the spy instead of Cain, there are ways to fit that in too
spies4Candy (1:24:03 AM): Did you even read my burg posts in the Cain thread?
spies4Zander (1:24:09 AM): How recent are they?
spies4Zander (1:24:17 AM): Because I have barely been on for the past couple of days
spies4Candy (1:25:42 AM): They're recent
spies4Zander (1:26:27 AM): I'll check on them
spies4Zander (1:29:08 AM): Your points are barely even arguable lol
spies4Candy (1:29:13 AM): What do you mean
spies4Zander (1:29:15 AM): And Naomi's last post just makes them seem even more like partners
spies4Zander (1:29:28 AM): I mean what you're saying is like clear evidence
spies4Zander (1:29:32 AM): if he isn't a spy he's incredibly stupid
spies4Zander (1:30:00 AM): I honestly thought he was a citizen, especially since Gordy trusted him so much
spies4Candy (1:30:07 AM): I'm talking to Hannah about that
spies4Candy (1:30:10 AM): About Gordy's trust
spies4Zander (1:30:13 AM): but if Beverly was trusted, as well as by Gordy, and she turned out as a spy
spies4Zander (1:30:17 AM): what grounds are those?

spies4Candy (1:30:31 AM): Well he also put his trust in the biggest citizen manipulator
spies4Candy (1:30:40 AM): Out of everyone - Ralph?
spies4Zander (1:31:02 AM): True
spies4Zander (1:31:47 AM): And then he puts his "trust" in someone that is commnly accepted as a citizen - Gordy
spies4Zander (1:31:53 AM): it seems fairly safe
spies4Candy (1:32:58 AM): Well it was important to Bev that Gordy think that she's safe
spies4Zander (1:33:20 AM): So you're saying Cain felt the same thing...?
spies4Candy (1:34:05 AM): I'm saying that I think that Cain's kissing Gordy's butt
spies4Candy (1:34:17 AM): I'm pretty sure Bev knows about Gordy's role
spies4Candy (1:34:18 AM): Whatever it is
spies4Candy (1:34:22 AM): OK you know what's stupid?
spies4Candy (1:34:29 AM): Angelica knew all about the role so the Orthodoxy spies do
spies4Candy (1:34:40 AM): Bev knew all about the role so the Traditionalist spies do
spies4Candy (1:34:48 AM): And the citizens know jack
spies4Zander (1:34:54 AM): Bev dedfinitely knew about Gordy's role cause she TOLD me to make herself seem more innocent
spies4Candy (1:36:27 AM): She told you about Gordy's role?
spies4Candy (1:36:30 AM): She pulled a Jeremiah?
spies4Zander (1:36:37 AM): Jeremiah did the same thing?
spies4Candy (1:36:48 AM): Jeremiah Mr. "Gordy is 100% citizen and he has a role guys!!" Jeremiah?
spies4Candy (1:36:49 AM): YEAH
spies4Candy (1:36:57 AM): HELLO
spies4Candy (1:37:23 AM): Or are you talking about some different sense of "spilling information on someone else's role"
spies4Zander (1:38:27 AM): Wait what?
spies4Zander (1:38:49 AM): Jeremiah posted it in the burg, Beverly tried to convince me in AIM, if that's a main reason
spies4Zander (1:39:06 AM): not liek I didn't alread think Gordy was a cit. cause I sent him that message
spies4Zander (1:39:12 AM): But she tried to use it as like a bargaining chip
spies4Zander (1:39:24 AM): "Gordy trusts me enought o tell me this so obviously you should to", type deal
spies4Candy (1:39:53 AM): Did she tell you the details of Gordy's role?
spies4Zander (1:41:37 AM): She tried to tell me that Gordy got Imprisoned or something and now can investigate people
spies4Zander (1:41:41 AM): I don't even know if that's true
spies4Candy (1:42:04 AM): The more I talk about her the more I hate her
spies4Candy (1:42:24 AM): I know she was just doing her job
spies4Candy (1:42:29 AM): But I'm going to be imprisoned for it
spies4Zander (1:43:30 AM): You and Gordy both seem to think you're going - you never know though, just please keep trying until you're gone. We need both of you if we want to win
spies4Candy (1:43:52 AM): Of course I'm going to keep trying
spies4Candy (1:43:58 AM): But I am wallowing in self pity
spies4Candy (1:46:13 AM): I'll ask you the same question I asked Hannah
spies4Candy (1:46:15 AM): Who's a citizen
spies4Zander (1:46:31 AM): In my eyes, you Gordy Singe are definite
spies4Zander (1:46:50 AM): I almost fully trust Hannah and Faizah, and I still think Madison is a citizen as well
spies4Candy (1:47:24 AM): Now why is it easier for you to name citizens than spies
spies4Zander (1:48:10 AM): Because there is a lot of fog between my feelings of people I don't talk to a lot and don't trust a lot as opposed to those I do talk with a lot and think seem genuine
spies4Zander (1:48:37 AM): for example, my feelings on Masaki change ALL THE TIME just based on what he says. For weeks I thought he was a citizen, then for a couple of weeks I thought he was a spy, now I'm starting to trust him more again...
spies4Candy (1:48:51 AM): Yeah no I'm not
spies4Candy (1:48:59 AM): He's a spy in my eyes
spies4Candy (1:49:19 AM): WHO IS GIVING ME THE SILENT TREATMENT
spies4Zander (1:49:32 AM): I think you just personally offend him or something
spies4Candy (1:49:38 AM): No, he's an idiot
spies4Candy (1:49:39 AM): He
spies4Candy (1:49:40 AM): Made
spies4Candy (1:49:42 AM): Me SO MAD
spies4Candy (1:50:03 AM): Even madder than Bev
spies4Candy (1:50:07 AM): Thinking about bev
spies4Candy (1:50:27 AM): I can't even think about it clearly
spies4Candy (1:50:35 AM): WHY does the guy NEVER come up with ideas on his own, MAGIC BOY?
spies4Candy (1:50:42 AM): Why are all of his posts comments on others' ideas?
spies4Candy (1:50:47 AM): Where's his ideas?
spies4Candy (1:50:48 AM): Hmm?
spies4Zander (1:53:00 AM): Not like I should be saying it, but because I generally do... In his defense, many citizens are afraid to put themselves out there because they don't want to get Imprisoned for seeming to be threats. Ultimately that DOES take away from the game though
spies4Candy (1:53:12 AM): You don't either sometimes
spies4Candy (1:53:21 AM): Do you know how hard it is to get you to talk about suspects?
spies4Zander (1:53:22 AM): No, I don't, but I've tried
spies4Candy (1:53:24 AM): You'll talk about citizens
spies4Candy (1:53:27 AM): But you won't talk about spies
spies4Zander (1:53:41 AM): I think a lot of the time you just have to ask
spies4Zander (1:53:44 AM): Example:
spies4Zander (1:53:57 AM): spies4Zander (1:51:00 AM): anyway I really suspect Naomi at this point, my eyes are also on Kip, Damon, Adelaide, Johan, Leon, and Bunni
spies4Zander (1:54:03 AM): Masaki just asked me about suspects
spies4Candy (1:54:50 AM): So in other words you suspect people who don't talk
spies4Candy (1:54:58 AM): YOu're terrified to vote out an active player
spies4Candy (1:55:01 AM): LIKE BEVERLY
spies4Candy (1:55:06 AM): Do you not see these weaknesses?
spies4Zander (1:55:23 AM): I DO, but I don't think all spies play the same and I think there is much to learn from those who talk
spies4Zander (1:55:35 AM): I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT A WEAK PLAYER, JESUS CHRIST
spies4Zander (1:55:47 AM): YOU SAW HOW I PLAYED IN THE MINI-MAFIA GAME, I SUCK
spies4Zander (1:55:55 AM): BUT I'M TRYING SO HARD SO I'M FREAKING SORRY
spies4Candy (1:56:01 AM): Sorry
spies4Zander (1:57:00 AM): Whatever, I'm going to bed
spies4Candy (1:57:04 AM): Ugh
spies4Candy (1:57:05 AM): Fine
spies4Zander (1:57:06 AM): I'm sick of you always just antagonizing me
spies4Candy (1:57:13 AM): I said I'm sorry
spies4Zander (1:57:18 AM): I'm trying my hardest Candy, and you don't have to be a BITCH to get stuff out of me.

[Zander]

spies4Gordy (1:41:23 AM): if I don't see you online tomorrow, this is my goodbye
spies4Zander (1:41:46 AM): Don't even talk like that
spies4Zander (1:42:15 AM): The spies knew you trusted Bev, why would they Imprison you?
spies4Gordy (1:42:24 AM): no, because Bev knows something about me...
spies4Gordy (1:42:31 AM): that now fucks me over
spies4Gordy (1:42:45 AM): Plus Angie...
spies4Gordy (1:42:51 AM): both sides know my thing
spies4Zander (1:42:59 AM): I honestly don't want to see you go. Just don't give up
spies4Gordy (1:43:35 AM): I'm not. I'm just sayin I dug my own grave by telling Bev stuff
spies4Gordy (1:44:16 AM): if Sam doesn't kill Kip, Damon or Singe off at tomorrow's imprisonment, I know I'm gone and am leaving behind my evidence with someone in the burg
spies4Zander (1:45:24 AM): They've all posted conversations though haven't they?
spies4Zander (1:45:34 AM): It's not over til it's over, man. Have some faith
spies4Gordy (1:49:14 AM): I'm too ashamed to admit it, but Bev played me real good
spies4Gordy (1:49:37 AM): she pushed hard for Hannah and Addy to be exiled
spies4Gordy (1:49:44 AM): trying to turn me on Hannah
spies4Zander (1:49:46 AM): The talk she had with me the night before her exile makes me feel like the dumbest player ever
spies4Zander (1:49:54 AM): I totally fell for it
spies4Gordy (1:49:54 AM):
spies4Gordy (1:52:34 AM): you fall for everything apparently, but so do I
spies4Gordy (1:52:41 AM): both spie groups are out to get me
spies4Gordy (1:52:46 AM): because I trusted Angie and Bev the most
spies4Gordy (1:53:06 AM): I don't give a shit about anyone in the game anymore
spies4Zander (1:56:25 AM):
spies4Zander (1:56:36 AM): Nobody else has made this game as fun as you, I seriously don't want to see you go
spies4Gordy (1:57:39 AM): but it's been a chore to log onto AIM everyday
spies4Gordy (1:57:47 AM): I've been sooooo busy with RL as of lately
spies4Gordy (1:58:03 AM): I wouldn't mind being imprisoned, but I don't feel people like Abrams deserve to outlast me
spies4Zander (1:58:40 AM): What did he do?
spies4Zander (1:59:10 AM): I'm gonna go to bed man... I won't be here tomorrow night, but if you or myself aren't here after then, you have no idea how much fun I had with you in the game and if I'm gone, I'm cheering for you. Good luck
spies4Gordy (2:00:45 AM): thanks but I'm dead
spies4Gordy (2:00:47 AM): seriously
spies4Gordy (2:00:49 AM): Bev knows
spies4Gordy (2:00:58 AM): Abrams = worthless waste of DNA
spies4Zander (2:03:50 AM): I gotta go...
spies4Zander (2:03:52 AM): Good luck

[Zander]

spies4Masaki (12:59:16 AM): Do you think the Orthodoxy probably voted Beverly out this past exile?
spies4Zander (12:59:25 AM): I honestly have no clue
spies4Zander (12:59:31 AM): if Naomi is also a spy it could have gone either way
spies4Masaki (12:59:40 AM): Well I don't think so,
spies4Masaki (12:59:49 AM): If they knew about Naomi already, why would they not want to test the second theory?
spies4Masaki (1:00:24 AM): They could always imprison Naomi at a time of their choosing,
spies4Masaki (1:00:42 AM): It's possible Beverly is not the second one they claim to have investigated.
spies4Zander (1:01:38 AM): If I were a spy, I would think about the game this way
spies4Zander (1:01:43 AM): There are a lot of citizens
spies4Zander (1:01:47 AM): there are only a couple of spies
spies4Zander (1:01:55 AM): the other spies are probably not the true threat to any of the, right?
spies4Masaki (1:02:15 AM): That only supports the theory even further
spies4Zander (1:02:22 AM): They're probably more focused on eliminating citizens in Imprisonments
spies4Masaki (1:02:22 AM): If they knew about Naomi, they would have gone with Beverly.
spies4Zander (1:02:36 AM): ... That's true
spies4Zander (1:02:43 AM): So are you saying the Orthodoxy voted for Bev?
spies4Masaki (1:02:54 AM): I would bet my money on it
spies4Masaki (1:03:17 AM): Since there are only two of them in a 20ish person game, I think they both probably voted her as well
spies4Masaki (1:03:47 AM): I have no clue who the last Traditionalist would have voted if Naomi is indeed the other one
spies4Zander (1:04:03 AM): Perhaps a random vote... Though not likely
spies4Masaki (1:04:14 AM): Could be, seeing as Naomi did trash her vote
spies4Masaki (1:04:20 AM): But I guess we don't even know if she's one of them at this point
spies4Zander (1:04:31 AM): I still highly suspect her
spies4Masaki (1:04:36 AM): Honestly, between you and me, I think the Orthos are probably the ones pushing for Cain to go
spies4Zander (1:04:36 AM): I don't think Beverly being a spy clears her at all
spies4Masaki (1:04:53 AM): They're all ones who voted Beverly
spies4Zander (1:05:14 AM): This could very well be true
spies4Zander (1:05:30 AM): I think the Orthodoxists, whatever it's called, may be more of a threat than Traditionalists
spies4Masaki (1:05:50 AM): haha if Naomi is a Traditionalist then I'd have to agree there ;-)
spies4Zander (1:07:13 AM): Well just looking at the pure facts, more Trads. have been eliminated, right?
spies4Zander (1:07:19 AM): Angelica and Emma were both Trads.?
spies4Masaki (1:09:25 AM): Yup
spies4Masaki (1:09:28 AM): No
spies4Masaki (1:09:31 AM): Angelica was Orthodoxy
spies4Masaki (1:09:37 AM): Bev was Traditionalist
spies4Zander (1:09:40 AM): Oh lol
spies4Zander (1:09:45 AM): As you can tell I get easily confused
spies4Masaki (1:30:42 AM): Hrm
spies4Masaki (1:30:52 AM): This Cain thing is definitely Spy driven
spies4Masaki (1:31:04 AM): Watch this space closely
spies4Zander (1:31:20 AM): I'm definitely going to... Candy is pushing so hard but I think she's innocent
spies4Zander (1:31:26 AM): who do you think could be a spy that's behind it?
spies4Masaki (1:31:36 AM): Like I said
spies4Masaki (1:31:40 AM): I think the Orthodoxy took Beverly out
spies4Masaki (1:31:47 AM): I don't think Candy is a Spy
spies4Masaki (1:32:08 AM): I think Hannah, Johan, and/or Adelaide could very well be the ones
spies4Masaki (1:32:21 AM): Adelaide has been trying to subvert attention from Naomi in a Spyish manner
spies4Masaki (1:32:24 AM): "we can come back to her"
spies4Masaki (1:32:39 AM): I'm not going to push for one of them to get exiled, that's the kind of shit that messed me up last time
spies4Masaki (1:32:45 AM): I need to watch them
spies4Masaki (1:33:31 AM): Anyone who cooperatively went along with Beverly and also with Cain(assuming Cain comes up Citizen) is someone I'm going to consider honing in on
spies4Masaki (1:33:50 AM): As for Naomi...
spies4Zander (1:33:54 AM): I'm honestly with you there
spies4Zander (1:34:00 AM): You know how concrete I am sometimes
spies4Zander (1:34:06 AM): I always vote for who I think is most suspect
spies4Masaki (1:34:11 AM): The longer these Spies stay split up, the better it is for us
spies4Zander (1:34:14 AM): And on MY terms
spies4Zander (1:34:25 AM): Naomi has not dodged that by any means
spies4Zander (1:34:30 AM): no matter how angry Candy gets at me for that
spies4Masaki (1:35:17 AM): Candy, grrr
spies4Masaki (1:35:20 AM): Wish she was more cooperative
spies4Zander (1:35:38 AM): She's a cunt but she's the most helpful ally we have
spies4Masaki (1:35:56 AM): She could very well be imprisoned
spies4Masaki (1:36:01 AM): For that stunt she pulled
spies4Masaki (1:36:04 AM): I'd not be surprised
spies4Zander (1:36:05 AM): She says she thinks she will be
spies4Masaki (1:36:13 AM): She trying to blame it on me?
spies4Zander (1:36:18 AM): Nah
spies4Zander (1:36:30 AM): She just told me she's leaving and was being stubborn so I pushed back
spies4Masaki (1:37:23 AM): Whatever
spies4Masaki (1:37:28 AM): If people play this game scared of imprisonment
spies4Masaki (1:37:33 AM): They're never going to do what needs to be done.
spies4Masaki (1:38:27 AM): At least she's not scared to speak up
spies4Zander (1:39:35 AM): I AGREE
spies4Zander (1:39:41 AM): That's what a lot of my posts have bene about
spies4Zander (1:39:46 AM): and then people just fall apart even more
spies4Masaki (1:41:52 AM): Who're your top suspects?
spies4Masaki (1:42:00 AM): If I'm included don't be afraid to say.
spies4Masaki (1:42:03 AM): Seriously, heh
spies4Masaki (1:42:32 AM): Mainly I want to find some common ground.
spies4Masaki (1:42:53 AM): More importantly, I want to connect the dots if another Spy is eliminated.
spies4Zander (1:49:01 AM): Sorry I'm talking to Candy and it' susing all my drunken brain power lol
spies4Masaki (1:49:15 AM): I don't even want to know, ugh
spies4Masaki (1:49:17 AM): She's sucha bitch
spies4Zander (1:49:19 AM): More recently my trust for you fell, but now it's honestly starting to grow back
spies4Masaki (1:49:31 AM): Oh?
spies4Zander (1:50:05 AM): It's nothing against you...
spies4Zander (1:50:24 AM): For some reason I just felt you and Naomi may have been working together, but I dunno, probably just fleeting thought cause I don't think that anymore
spies4Zander (1:51:00 AM): anyway I really suspect Naomi at this point, my eyes are also on Kip, Damon, Adelaide, Johan, Leon, and Bunni
spies4Zander (1:51:06 AM): I know that's a lot lol, but I can't really narrow it down
spies4Masaki (1:51:47 AM): Ours lists are similar
spies4Masaki (1:51:52 AM): Although I don't think Kip is one of them
spies4Zander (1:52:09 AM): The fact that he throws away so many votes has me wondering
spies4Masaki (1:52:17 AM): Problem is we don't have the bandwagons by the reigns :-(
spies4Zander (1:53:07 AM): FUCK BANDWAGONS
spies4Masaki (1:54:19 AM): Unfortunately voting solo just won't cut it
spies4Zander (1:54:31 AM): No, but we don't need to control the bandwagon
spies4Zander (1:54:36 AM): KIP IS BLATANTLY THROWING AWAY VOTES
spies4Masaki (1:54:48 AM): I dunno, I think the guy just doesn't care, heh
spies4Zander (1:54:49 AM): voting for who you suspect and who you think won't go are so different

[Zander]

spies4Bunni (1:58:46 AM): hi xander! :-)
spies4Zander (2:00:40 AM): Hey Bunni
spies4Zander (2:00:44 AM): wow I haven't talked to you in forever lol
spies4Bunni (2:00:50 AM): i know!
spies4Bunni (2:00:54 AM): i never see you on when i'm on!
spies4Bunni (2:01:30 AM): i generally only see like, candy, naomi, and masaki.
spies4Bunni (2:01:50 AM): i guess ppl have different online hours.
spies4Bunni (2:01:54 AM): but anyway, how ya been?
spies4Zander (2:02:28 AM): Good I suppose, but especially busy this weekend
spies4Zander (2:02:36 AM): I think this is ANOTHER exile I'm going to miss tomorrow
spies4Bunni (2:02:46 AM): oh no. :-(
spies4Bunni (2:02:50 AM): well, we'll miss you!
spies4Bunni (2:03:11 AM): i have no idea who to vote for tomorrow.
spies4Bunni (2:03:30 AM): i'm between cain, singe, and candy. -.-
spies4Zander (2:03:51 AM): Candy? Really?
spies4Bunni (2:04:29 AM): i mean, up til last week i really trusted her.
spies4Bunni (2:04:46 AM): but i don't understand why she kept the beverly thing a secret from everyone for so long.
spies4Bunni (2:05:03 AM): if i were a cit, i would want at least a few people to know just in case i got imprisioned or something.
spies4Zander (2:05:10 AM): I think she wanted to see if there was a counterclaim, to be honest
spies4Bunni (2:05:19 AM): oh yeah.
spies4Bunni (2:05:29 AM): *if i were her and a cit
spies4Bunni (2:05:32 AM): that sounded bad. lol
spies4Bunni (2:05:53 AM): what do you mean? a counterclaim?
spies4Zander (2:06:12 AM): like another investigation that might have said Beverly was a citizen
spies4Zander (2:06:16 AM): that is what she told me
spies4Bunni (2:06:24 AM): um.
spies4Bunni (2:06:32 AM): that doesn't make sense.
spies4Zander (2:06:54 AM): How does it not make sense?
spies4Zander (2:07:10 AM): If someone else investigated Beverly and it came up citizen and they went public with it, she would catch two spies instead of one
spies4Bunni (2:07:20 AM): if she investigated her and it said a spy, why would she think someone else would investigate....OOOOH
spies4Bunni (2:07:26 AM): oh, i see what you mean.
spies4Bunni (2:07:49 AM): i still don't think it's pheasable.
spies4Bunni (2:08:11 AM): i don't see how she could really bank on that happening. i don't think the odds of that are very high at all.
spies4Zander (2:09:18 AM): It's a Singe-type strategy
spies4Zander (2:09:25 AM): let people create their own traps for themselves and let them fall into it
spies4Bunni (2:10:13 AM): my suspicions with singe are that he is never online, he's on some cruise thing or whatnot, and yet his posts are so passionate.
spies4Bunni (2:10:20 AM): it's kinda strange to me.
spies4Zander (2:11:23 AM): I honestly find that funny cause I don't believe for two seconds right now that Candy is a spy, and I'm very convinced Singe isn't either
spies4Zander (2:11:31 AM): I think Candy is the best citizen we have, actually
spies4Bunni (2:12:22 AM): well, who are you suspicious of?
spies4Zander (2:12:54 AM): Naomi, Damon, Johan, Leon, and you after your little slip up there earlier in the conversation
spies4Bunni (2:13:07 AM): oh, that was a typo. gosh.
spies4Bunni (2:13:44 AM): if that's how you're gonna get your suspicions, then we're hard off.
spies4Zander (2:14:00 AM): I'm just saying Bunni, sometimes "typos" are the best evidence
spies4Bunni (2:14:44 AM): well, i'm not a spy. so, yeah.
spies4Bunni (2:14:54 AM): i don't think naomi is a spy.
spies4Bunni (2:15:09 AM): damon, maybe.
spies4Bunni (2:15:26 AM): Johan and Leon.
spies4Bunni (2:15:27 AM): I doubt it.
spies4Zander (2:18:06 AM): I honestly can't believe that you suspect Candy and Singe but not Naomi... It's like surreal to me
spies4Zander (2:18:24 AM): But maybe I'm just different - I never suspected Madison when most did
spies4Bunni (2:18:33 AM): i've suspected naomi in the past, but notsomuch anymore.
spies4Zander (2:19:19 AM): why?
spies4Bunni (2:20:01 AM): she's just proved herself.
spies4Bunni (2:20:06 AM): again and again, really, imo.
spies4Bunni (2:21:52 AM): but, anyway.
spies4Bunni (2:22:05 AM): as delightful as this has been, i've got to be heading to...
spies4Bunni (2:22:06 AM): whoa.
spies4Bunni (2:22:10 AM): OH
spies4Bunni (2:22:16 AM): clocks set back themselves. haha!
spies4Bunni (2:22:36 AM): i was like...an hour ago it was like 1:30 and now it's...1:23!
spies4Bunni (2:23:49 AM): night
spies4Bunni signed off at 2:25:36 AM.





First off my name is Zander, you dumb ... GAH...


And secondly, peace out other Traditionalist! And even if you're not, I'm going to wreck you next exile anyway. It's time to exile NAOMI's bootie.

[Zander]

spies4Zander (6:03:07 PM): Hey
spies4Candy (6:03:11 PM): MAGIC BOY
spies4Zander (6:03:16 PM): Sorry about the other day
spies4Candy (6:03:20 PM): It's fine
spies4Zander (6:03:22 PM): I was just really stressed out and frustrated
spies4Candy (6:03:23 PM): We were both cranky and irritated
spies4Zander (6:03:30 PM): How's stuff going?
spies4Zander (6:03:36 PM): Any thoughts about tonight?
spies4Candy (6:03:37 PM): I'm sending you an invite
spies4Zander (6:04:25 PM): k
spies4Candy (6:35:01 PM): MAGIC BOY
spies4Zander (6:42:15 PM): yeah?
spies4Candy (6:42:20 PM): Stop trying to get me imprisoned
spies4Candy (6:42:24 PM): Thanks for the kind words
spies4Candy (6:42:27 PM): But knock it off
spies4Zander (6:42:33 PM): Sorry
spies4Candy (6:42:50 PM): Now we really have to get a spy out
spies4Candy (6:42:53 PM): HAHA
spies4Zander (6:42:56 PM):
spies4Zander (6:43:05 PM): I don't want you to get Imprisoned lol
spies4Candy (6:43:20 PM): Then please don't go around telling everyone you think I'm the best citizen ever
spies4Candy (6:43:21 PM): I know I am
spies4Candy (6:43:25 PM): You know I am
spies4Candy (6:43:26 PM): Everyone knows I am
spies4Candy (6:43:31 PM): Just don't actuallys ay it
spies4Zander (6:48:13 PM): I understand, sorry I said it
spies4Zander (6:48:27 PM): I was honestly just mad that Bunni said she suspects you, I don't understand why
spies4Candy (6:48:47 PM): The critiques on Bunni are right
spies4Candy (6:49:09 PM): I was lucky that last round she agreed with Bev because if she didn't, she wouldn't have voted for her - she thinks totally independently and doesn't listen to input
spies4Candy (6:49:20 PM): She thinks I'm a spy? Nothing you can say is going to change that
spies4Candy (6:49:31 PM): But she also doesn't have any influence
spies4Candy (6:49:33 PM): So I'm not worried
spies4Zander (6:49:39 PM): I did a critique on her
spies4Zander (6:49:45 PM): basically a lot of the people that didn't have any, and you
spies4Candy (6:50:40 PM): Uh oh
spies4Candy (6:50:48 PM): SOmeone just made a pseudonym to post in Abrams's file
spies4Candy (6:50:54 PM): And Mistaki's
spies4Zander (6:50:58 PM): I just saw that
spies4Candy (6:51:06 PM): WTF
spies4Candy (6:51:59 PM): The nic was made 3 days ago
spies4Zander (6:52:16 PM): so why haven't they posted til now
spies4Candy (6:53:14 PM): Why are they editing the posts after they make them
spies4Zander (6:53:33 PM): Well they've posted Spy in 6 different threads so I don't have much inclination to believe what they say either way
spies4Candy (6:53:39 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (6:53:59 PM): You know
spies4Candy (6:54:07 PM): There's one person who hasn't received any critiques
spies4Candy (6:54:09 PM): None
spies4Candy (6:54:14 PM): Just one person
spies4Zander (6:54:27 PM): Summer?
spies4Candy (6:54:35 PM): Yeah
spies4Zander (6:54:40 PM): False - I critiqued her for that very reason
spies4Candy (6:54:47 PM): So it'll be posted later
spies4Zander (6:54:48 PM): But it's still noticeable
spies4Zander (6:54:58 PM): er, worth noticing
spies4Zander (6:54:59 PM): noteworthy
spies4Zander (6:55:01 PM): there we go!
spies4Candy (6:55:03 PM): That too
spies4Candy (6:55:43 PM): I'm seeing it as a good thing
spies4Candy (6:56:02 PM): But I'm guessing not many people have finished by now
spies4Candy (6:56:05 PM): I still have 1 more to do
spies4Zander (6:56:35 PM): *stab Johan*... Just speak normally!
spies4Candy (6:56:43 PM): I think it's cute
spies4Zander (6:57:14 PM): I get confused by it because it's like... never coming out and making sense right away or even saying anything right away
spies4Candy (6:57:50 PM): He makes sense when he wants to
spies4Candy (6:58:39 PM): Fantastic
spies4Candy (6:58:42 PM): There's an orthodoxy login too
spies4Candy (6:58:48 PM): Made on Nov 1
spies4Candy (6:59:16 PM): 1 minute after the traditionalist name was made
spies4Candy (7:01:21 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (7:01:24 PM): It says Jeremiah's a spy
spies4Zander (7:02:56 PM): lmao!
spies4Candy (7:03:10 PM): He was as good as
spies4Zander (7:03:11 PM): Do you think Sam made those psuedonyms then?
spies4Candy (7:03:19 PM): It's a possibility
spies4Zander (7:03:38 PM): Either that or someone joking around could have done it
spies4Candy (7:04:06 PM): Yeah
spies4Candy (7:04:21 PM): I'm most interested in Mistaki's critiques
spies4Candy (7:04:29 PM): I think that's a thread to pay attention to
spies4Candy (7:09:07 PM): The traditionalist hasn't bumped Summer's thread
spies4Candy (7:09:10 PM): Whatever!
spies4Zander (7:09:21 PM): or mine
spies4Zander (7:09:22 PM): lol
spies4Candy (7:09:32 PM): The worst part is now I've lost track of which critiques I've read and which I haven't
spies4Zander (7:10:00 PM): I think Sam just deleted the traditionalist account posts
spies4Candy (7:10:04 PM): Good
spies4Candy (7:10:14 PM): So what's up with Gordy
spies4Candy (7:10:15 PM): I want answers
spies4Zander (7:10:35 PM): could you be more specific lol
spies4Candy (7:11:11 PM): Yes
spies4Candy (7:11:12 PM): What's your role
spies4Zander (7:11:29 PM): OMG I don't have one for the millionth time lol
spies4Candy (7:11:34 PM): OK
spies4Candy (7:11:44 PM): Gordy told Bev EVERYTHING
spies4Zander (7:11:50 PM): Anyway, did you know about Gordy's role?
spies4Candy (7:12:05 PM): So there are 2 people here running around who know you're a marked man
spies4Zander (7:12:07 PM): Yeah Bev told me almost everything she "knew" (not sure what was real now) about him to make herself look more innocent
spies4Candy (7:12:10 PM): So your time is limited
spies4Zander (7:12:31 PM): *confused*
spies4Candy (7:12:42 PM): Did Bev mention you?
spies4Zander (7:12:57 PM): I don't know... But I told a couple of people she talked to me...
spies4Zander (7:12:59 PM): Fuck.
spies4Candy (7:13:08 PM): That's not what I mean.
spies4Candy (7:13:16 PM): But I'm not saying it until you do
spies4Zander (7:13:25 PM): I'm confused
spies4Candy (7:13:35 PM): Never mind.
spies4Zander (7:13:55 PM): No just if you tell me what you mean instead of asking questions I don't understand then I'll probably be able to tell you something
spies4Candy (7:14:04 PM): Are you aware you're going to be imprisoned soon?
spies4Zander (7:14:21 PM): No, why am I going to be Imprisoned soon?
spies4Candy (7:14:26 PM): Because of Bev
spies4Candy (7:14:31 PM): And what she knows
spies4Zander (7:14:32 PM): Oh you mean did Beverly mention me when she talked to me? Not at all
spies4Zander (7:14:40 PM): Wait what does Beverly know?
spies4Candy (7:14:46 PM): Like I said
spies4Candy (7:14:49 PM): I'm not saying it until youdo
spies4Zander (7:14:56 PM): Until I say what? What she knows?
spies4Zander (7:15:15 PM): We talked about Gordy's role and that was the extent of what actually related to the game
spies4Candy (7:15:23 PM): Gordy never talked to you?
spies4Candy (7:15:25 PM): Just Bev?
spies4Zander (7:15:26 PM): Do you know the details of his role?
spies4Candy (7:15:30 PM): No
spies4Zander (7:15:30 PM): He never talked to me, no
spies4Zander (7:15:38 PM): So I don't know if she told the truth
spies4Candy (7:16:00 PM): She's a spy
spies4Candy (7:16:02 PM): Of course she didn't
spies4Candy (7:16:07 PM): She was also a very good spy
spies4Zander (7:16:15 PM): She told ME that basically, his role took effect when he was Imprisoned... She said the Imprisonment that didn't happen was supposed to be him but it was part of his role
spies4Zander (7:16:28 PM): and that after the spies tried to Imprison him he got to do some type of investigation on people
spies4Zander (7:16:42 PM): but in order for it to work he had to ask for their identity and specify which spy team he thought they were on
spies4Candy (7:16:54 PM): Who did she say he looked at
spies4Zander (7:16:57 PM): She didn't tell me how frequently but I'd guess once a week if this was even real
spies4Zander (7:17:24 PM): She told me the spies first tried to Imprison him last week so I don't know if he even got one in before she left, or if before he left
spies4Zander (7:17:40 PM): If she is telling the truth, then the spies are working together in some way
spies4Zander (7:17:48 PM): That or both teams knew about his role
spies4Candy (7:17:51 PM): I think they are
spies4Candy (7:18:03 PM): It would not surprise me
spies4Candy (7:18:30 PM): They both did
spies4Candy (7:18:32 PM): Angelica and Bev
spies4Candy (7:18:38 PM): I am fairly sure both knew details
spies4Candy (7:18:43 PM): Which means you have 4 people who know
spies4Candy (7:18:47 PM): And 13 citizens who don't
spies4Candy (7:18:56 PM): That's not the whole truth though
spies4Zander (7:19:03 PM): Bev tried to tell me that Angelica probably knew the details, which could mean that both spy teams then did actually know about it
spies4Candy (7:19:23 PM): Or she wants you to think they did
spies4Candy (7:19:27 PM): I refuse to play Bev's mindgames
spies4Zander (7:19:53 PM): Would it help us if we decided one way or another what her intention was?
spies4Candy (7:20:37 PM): Her intention is to win
spies4Candy (7:21:00 PM): She armed you and Faizah with enough wrong assumptions to ensure you'll make the wrong moves
spies4Zander (7:21:04 PM): So by telling me that she was just trying to mindufck me?
spies4Candy (7:21:33 PM): Look
spies4Candy (7:21:41 PM): There are few things we know for sure
spies4Candy (7:21:45 PM): There are 7 spies
spies4Candy (7:21:52 PM): The Orthodoxy got Lloyd
spies4Candy (7:21:56 PM): The Traditionalists got Lise
spies4Candy (7:22:00 PM): The rest
spies4Candy (7:22:01 PM): We're just guessing
spies4Candy (7:22:03 PM): ALL of the rest
spies4Candy (7:22:13 PM): Even Emma
spies4Candy (7:22:24 PM): Even whose turn it was when the failed imprisonment happened
spies4Candy (7:22:31 PM): Even who got Gordy
spies4Zander (7:22:36 PM): Who had the most recent one?
spies4Candy (7:22:42 PM): You dont' know
spies4Zander (7:22:44 PM): Or who was supposed to in the lineup
spies4Candy (7:22:45 PM): Not for sure
spies4Candy (7:22:50 PM): In the lineup was the Traditionalists
spies4Candy (7:22:51 PM): But
spies4Candy (7:22:55 PM): It's not a confirmed fact
spies4Candy (7:23:00 PM): This is why Bev is good
spies4Candy (7:23:09 PM): She says things matter-of-fact
spies4Candy (7:23:24 PM): Things that you are fairly sure are true
spies4Candy (7:23:28 PM): And then because it lines up, you believe it
spies4Candy (7:24:19 PM): I don't know exactly what Bev told you
spies4Candy (7:24:25 PM): But I promise you there are some small false assumptions in there
spies4Candy (7:24:32 PM): Including ones on Gordy
spies4Zander (7:25:06 PM): Well obviously that's why I'm not going to follow everything she told me
spies4Candy (7:25:20 PM): Well you also have to be careful on your opening premises
spies4Candy (7:25:35 PM): This would be a lot easier if I had talked to Bev last round
spies4Candy (7:25:40 PM): Then I would know what she was doing
spies4Candy (7:25:43 PM): But we didn't IM at all
spies4Candy (7:26:33 PM): And your time is limited
spies4Zander (7:26:37 PM): Okay, back to what you said before
spies4Zander (7:26:40 PM): yeah I was just going to ask that
spies4Candy (7:26:41 PM): Yeah
spies4Zander (7:26:41 PM): Why?
spies4Candy (7:26:50 PM): Because of Gordy
spies4Zander (7:26:56 PM): Just because I trusted him?
spies4Candy (7:26:59 PM): No
spies4Zander (7:27:00 PM): Or because of what Bev told me
spies4Candy (7:27:07 PM): Because of what he told Bev
spies4Zander (7:27:14 PM): Wait, what did he tell Bev?
spies4Zander (7:27:27 PM): About his role?
spies4Zander (7:27:30 PM): You're confusing me so much
spies4Candy (7:27:33 PM): Sorry
spies4Candy (7:27:39 PM): He told Bev you're a confirmed citizen
spies4Zander (7:28:14 PM): Urgh
spies4Candy (7:28:16 PM): Which means
spies4Candy (7:28:24 PM): That if Gordy really wasn't a Traditionalist imprisonment
spies4Zander (7:28:24 PM): The spies know I'm a confirmed citizen
spies4Candy (7:28:31 PM): It's the Traditionalists' turn next
spies4Candy (7:28:44 PM): And this is why I'm looking at what we're assuming
spies4Zander (7:28:45 PM): And if the spies ARE communicating, they all know I'm a confirmed citizen probably
spies4Candy (7:28:51 PM): Well that's an assumption
spies4Candy (7:28:57 PM): Or a guess
spies4Zander (7:29:02 PM): So how did you find this out?
spies4Candy (7:29:02 PM): I'm guessing you're next
spies4Candy (7:29:14 PM): But thanks to your "I heart Candy posts"
spies4Candy (7:29:21 PM): I've changed my mind and I think I'm next
spies4Candy (7:29:28 PM): Because a confirmed citizen is saying they think I'm awesome
spies4Zander (7:29:36 PM): I'M SORRY
spies4Candy (7:29:39 PM): It's fine
spies4Candy (7:29:40 PM): You didn't know
spies4Zander (7:29:42 PM): Nobody else even necessarily knows it's me
spies4Candy (7:29:50 PM): Let's hope not
spies4Candy (7:29:54 PM): But I'm not counting on it
spies4Zander (7:29:57 PM): So again, how did you find this out?
spies4Candy (7:29:58 PM): Because you did say it to Bunni
spies4Candy (7:30:14 PM): I found it out from Gordy
spies4Candy (7:30:26 PM): He told Bev his role
spies4Candy (7:30:30 PM): Then he found out Bev was a spy
spies4Candy (7:30:46 PM): So to balance it, he told me because I was the one who went after Bev
spies4Candy (7:31:06 PM): He's hoping I'm not an orthodoxy spy and he's right
spies4Zander (7:31:43 PM): God this sucks
spies4Candy (7:31:46 PM): YEAH
spies4Candy (7:31:52 PM): This is why I blame myself last round
spies4Candy (7:31:58 PM): If I had been more convincing on Bev, he wouldn't have trusted her
spies4Zander (7:32:09 PM): Some people don't change their minds for anything though
spies4Candy (7:32:11 PM): True
spies4Candy (7:32:14 PM): Like Bunni
spies4Zander (7:32:58 PM): gah
spies4Zander (7:32:59 PM): I gotta get going
spies4Zander (7:33:03 PM): I should be back for Exile
spies4Candy (7:33:25 PM): Bye
spies4Candy (7:33:27 PM): HEY
spies4Zander (7:33:30 PM): Yeah
spies4Candy (7:33:32 PM): Keep quiet.
spies4Zander (7:33:44 PM): Will do.
spies4Candy (7:33:46 PM): Promise?
spies4Candy (7:33:47 PM): Abrams promised
spies4Candy (7:33:49 PM): Little liar
spies4Candy (7:33:53 PM): Not about you
spies4Zander (7:33:57 PM): You know I trust you more than anyone in this game
spies4Candy (7:33:58 PM): I told him about the Bev investigation before I went public
spies4Candy (7:34:12 PM): OK
spies4Zander (7:34:28 PM): I think we have a couple days til Imprisonment anyway so if one of us goes we have some time before we get shmoopy
spies4Candy (7:34:46 PM): I'm not crying yet
spies4Zander (7:34:59 PM): Just keep your eyes out for anyone that says anything reflective of what we've talked about tonight - like me being confirmed
spies4Candy (7:35:10 PM): OK
spies4Zander (7:35:20 PM): See ya later
spies4Candy (7:35:29 PM): Bye
spies4Candy signed off at 7:46:12 PM.

[Zander]

(6:04:17 PM) You have just entered room "spies4."
spies4Adelaide (6:04:19 PM): told me i was a citizen, but told more didnt she?
spies4Zander (6:04:22 PM): Hey guys
spies4Summer (6:04:24 PM): Hi Zander
spies4Candy (6:04:27 PM): MAGIC BOY
spies4Candy (6:04:46 PM): Johan ou paying attention?
spies4Candy (6:04:59 PM): We're talking about tonight's vote MAGIC BOY
spies4Zander (6:05:10 PM): What have we said so far?
spies4Adelaide (6:05:12 PM): i suppose ill change to naomi
spies4Candy (6:05:30 PM): So far we've said that it's a tossup between Cain and Naomi
spies4Adelaide (6:05:33 PM): but if she is a citizen i know who could be the 4th trad spy, and if cain isnt gone next round
spies4Candy (6:05:39 PM): But Naomi's a stronger case because so long as she's here, we'll always be fractured
spies4Candy (6:05:44 PM): We'll never vote together
spies4Adelaide (6:05:45 PM): ill be so pissed off
spies4Candy (6:05:47 PM): And we'll always be distracted
spies4Adelaide (6:05:54 PM): ye i agree with that
spies4Adelaide (6:05:59 PM): changing as we speak
spies4Zander (6:06:03 PM): I set my vote on Naomi last night cause I was not sure of my availability today
spies4Summer (6:06:09 PM): Always prevote
spies4Summer (6:06:18 PM): I voted yesterday
spies4Candy (6:06:25 PM): Yeah
spies4Zander (6:06:29 PM): My most passionate reason against Naomi is actually what Candy just brought up
spies4Zander (6:06:37 PM): she's sent everyone running in different directions for a couple weeks now
spies4Candy (6:06:47 PM): Your most passionate reason should be "I think she's a spy"
spies4Candy (6:06:55 PM): Anything else is unimportant if that first criteria isn't there
spies4Zander (6:07:03 PM): You know what I meant
spies4Candy (6:07:06 PM):
spies4Zander (6:07:40 PM): Does anyone know if Cain and Naomi are against one another?
spies4Zander (6:08:00 PM): That could be useful to us if the person who gets exiled is actually a spy
spies4Candy (6:08:01 PM): Naomi's not thrilled with the idea
spies4Candy (6:08:08 PM): She knows she's going
spies4Candy (6:08:15 PM): 1 sec
spies4Candy (6:08:28 PM): spies4Candy (3:39:12 PM): So who are you voting for tonight?
spies4Candy (6:08:31 PM): spies4Naomi (3:39:26 PM): cain I suppose
spies4Candy (6:08:34 PM): spies4Naomi (3:39:41 PM): pretty sure its a safe bet
spies4Candy (6:08:37 PM): spies4Candy (3:39:46 PM): Safe how?
spies4Candy (6:08:40 PM): spies4Naomi (3:39:49 PM): well
spies4Candy (6:08:45 PM): spies4Naomi (3:40:12 PM): he's more likely a spy than anyone else that is feasible to get out right now
spies4Candy (6:08:50 PM): spies4Naomi (3:40:32 PM): and if not, that sucks, but not really a big loss you know?
spies4Candy (6:08:57 PM): spies4Naomi (3:40:48 PM): no joke, he has NEVER aimed me
spies4Candy (6:09:00 PM): spies4Naomi (3:40:50 PM): ever
spies4Candy (6:09:06 PM): spies4Naomi (3:41:18 PM): i still really want to see or make a case on madison
spies4Zander (6:09:54 PM): It makes sense that she's voting for the person next in line to her to go, yet last time she didn't
spies4Summer (6:10:03 PM): That was so weird
spies4Summer (6:10:14 PM): It really was
spies4Zander (6:10:27 PM): And the fact that she doesn't think Cain is a spy but could vote him out compared to her same defense for Beverly makes NO sense
spies4Zander (6:10:36 PM): Who does she actually suspect?
spies4Candy (6:10:41 PM): More whats its
spies4Candy (6:10:42 PM): Uh
spies4Candy (6:10:43 PM): Critiques
spies4Candy (6:11:47 PM): YES more for me
spies4Zander (6:12:28 PM): lol
spies4Adelaide (6:13:13 PM): how many critiques do we have to do?
spies4Summer (6:13:21 PM): 6
spies4Zander (6:14:42 PM): Hey Adelaide thanks for that nice critique lol
spies4Adelaide (6:15:42 PM): Ye I didnt think he was posting them
spies4Adelaide (6:15:46 PM): he posted it twice
spies4Adelaide (6:16:02 PM): mine was done out of anger i dont even remember any of it
spies4Adelaide (6:16:06 PM): well
spies4Summer (6:16:15 PM): Guys
spies4Summer (6:16:18 PM): Go read Masaki's
spies4Adelaide (6:16:20 PM): he never put my cain one up
spies4Summer (6:16:20 PM): Right now
spies4Zander (6:17:21 PM): I can barely read through that
spies4Adelaide (6:17:33 PM): LMAO!!
spies4Adelaide (6:17:46 PM): I know who it is!
spies4Adelaide (6:17:52 PM): That is too good!
spies4Adelaide (6:17:57 PM): fate maka
spies4Candy (6:18:02 PM): Oh man
spies4Candy (6:18:07 PM): That is awesome
spies4Candy (6:18:21 PM): The fatemaker suspects Mistaki
spies4Candy (6:18:25 PM): HAHA
spies4Zander (6:18:35 PM): lol. So this thing actually exists?
spies4Summer (6:18:47 PM): ... looks like it
spies4Zander (6:18:49 PM): I thought it was the Schism Maker?
spies4Summer (6:18:54 PM): It says they're both
spies4Adelaide (6:19:10 PM): wow i got 6 critiques lol
spies4Zander (6:19:29 PM): Adelaide, no offense but I'm not critiquing you :-P It would be a waste of my time after our conversation lol
spies4Summer (6:19:33 PM): if u be a spy u know i be da schism maka too. u know it!
spies4Candy (6:20:25 PM): That's intense
spies4Adelaide (6:20:48 PM): wait a sec, you havent critiqued me
spies4Adelaide (6:21:06 PM): ye hes so obsessed with the fate maker
spies4Adelaide (6:21:15 PM): thats a name angelica pulled out of her ass
spies4Zander (6:21:34 PM): lol
spies4Summer (6:21:48 PM): What if she didn't?
spies4Adelaide (6:21:59 PM): masaki and leon, im looking through them now
spies4Johan (6:22:42 PM): Candy is awesome, I just thought I would point this out
spies4Candy (6:22:47 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (6:22:52 PM): Any particular reason?
spies4Adelaide (6:24:37 PM): how many critiques do we have to do?
spies4Summer (6:24:44 PM): For the second time
spies4Summer (6:24:45 PM): 6
spies4Zander (6:25:08 PM): lmao
spies4Candy (6:25:27 PM): Wow
spies4Candy (6:25:32 PM): Read Faizah's file
spies4Adelaide (6:25:43 PM): WE HAVE TO DO 6!?!
spies4Adelaide (6:25:44 PM): SHITTT
spies4Summer (6:25:48 PM): For the third time
spies4Summer (6:25:48 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (6:25:52 PM): You have to do 6
spies4Adelaide (6:25:52 PM): lol
spies4Adelaide (6:25:58 PM): Dammg
spies4Adelaide (6:26:08 PM): naomi and cain can get them
spies4Adelaide (6:26:11 PM): damon
spies4Adelaide (6:26:15 PM): eh
spies4Zander (6:27:18 PM): I tried to stay away from people that have way too many
spies4Adelaide (6:27:23 PM): i wont be talking for a while
spies4Candy (6:31:25 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (6:31:27 PM): Everyone hates Abrams
spies4Adelaide (6:31:35 PM): Leon is on
spies4Zander (6:31:57 PM): I didn't do one for Abrams cause I don't really mind him
spies4Zander (6:32:01 PM): But I saw how mean his were
spies4Johan (6:33:36 PM): Poor Abrams. He is a misunderstood individual
spies4Zander (6:34:10 PM): I'll be right back
spies4Adelaide (6:35:52 PM): done them PHEW
spies4Summer (6:39:24 PM): How many did you do?
spies4Adelaide (6:39:36 PM): 4 like u said
spies4Adelaide (6:39:38 PM): JOKING
spies4Adelaide (6:39:40 PM): i did 6
spies4Summer (6:39:48 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Johan (6:40:16 PM): It is good to see high spirits, Adelaide
spies4Candy (6:40:22 PM): So
spies4Adelaide (6:40:23 PM):
spies4Candy (6:40:28 PM): Critique comments
spies4Candy (6:40:34 PM): Which rang true?
spies4Adelaide (6:41:07 PM): what do you guys think about the possiblity of leon and masaki being co-spies?
spies4Candy (6:41:23 PM): Which side?
spies4Zander (6:42:09 PM): I think my critique on Candy was the nicest and most honest lol, but that's just me
spies4Zander (6:42:53 PM): They're both kinda on my suspect list, Leon a lot more than Masaki
spies4Adelaide (6:43:11 PM): ortho spies
spies4Adelaide (6:43:23 PM): im doing some serious research
spies4Adelaide (6:43:34 PM): old convos, posts
spies4Candy (6:44:17 PM): They've both gotta go
spies4Candy (6:44:31 PM): I haven't looked through stuff to try to connect those two
spies4Candy (6:44:40 PM): But I'd be open to the idea
spies4Candy (6:44:59 PM): It would be hilarious if all 3 of Martha's fam members were spies
spies4Johan (6:45:02 PM): I myself think that either Masaki and Leon, Masaki and Madison, or Masaki and Abrams are all possible solutions to the Ortho spies
spies4Candy (6:46:05 PM): "I want to get out spies, not vote merely for self preservation. A vote on Beverly would've been just that: Self-preservation."
spies4Candy (6:46:10 PM): Comments like that really bother me
spies4Candy (6:46:17 PM): A vote for Bev was a vote to get out an investigated spy
spies4Candy (6:46:21 PM): What part of this didn't make sense to her?
spies4Candy (6:46:34 PM): Last round she had a choice
spies4Candy (6:46:40 PM): Vote to save her ass AND get out a spy
spies4Candy (6:46:41 PM): Or not
spies4Candy (6:46:43 PM): She did neither
spies4Candy (6:46:56 PM): I think voting for her tonight is the right move
spies4Candy (6:46:58 PM): But that's my opinion
spies4Adelaide (6:47:05 PM): naomi?
spies4Candy (6:47:08 PM): Yes
spies4Adelaide (6:47:12 PM): already changed to naomi
spies4Johan (6:47:25 PM): Yes... in her defense she could ahve believed Beverly's role, and yet even then, it would be her, whom she knows her own identity, or Beverly, whom she would have to trust to believe to be a citizen..
spies4Candy (6:47:47 PM): Right so lose-lose
spies4Candy (6:48:06 PM): But if it comes down to you leaving or another citizen leaving, why would you just let yourself get voted out?
spies4Johan (6:48:55 PM): Exactly, this does not make sense
spies4Candy (6:49:52 PM): As far as I knew Bev and Naomi weren't BFFs
spies4Candy (6:50:09 PM): I can't think of a reason other than friendship or spy decision
spies4Johan (6:51:08 PM): Nor can I, I wish that she would give a plausible answer for this scenario
spies4Candy (6:51:23 PM): Who's behind the pseudonym guys?
spies4Candy (6:51:26 PM): Fess up
spies4Candy (6:51:28 PM): Right now
spies4Johan (6:53:38 PM): You speak of "Traditionalist"? I am just now entering a state of confusion regarding these posts of the government files
spies4Adelaide (6:56:09 PM): brb
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spies4Candy (7:19:32 PM): Adelaide
spies4Adelaide (7:19:40 PM): Candy
spies4Adelaide (7:19:43 PM): aide
spies4Adelaide (7:21:36 PM): i made 35 threads in my confessional poor sam
spies4Zander (7:22:26 PM): wow lol
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spies4Adelaide (7:31:39 PM): hey
spies4Damon (7:31:58 PM): Hello
spies4Adelaide (7:31:59 PM): who you vote for?
spies4Damon (7:32:26 PM): Well Adelaide my trip was great, thanks for asking :-)
spies4Damon (7:32:41 PM): I pre-voted for Naomi but hopefully you all can clue me into the comings and goings of this weekend.
spies4Candy (7:32:41 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (7:32:48 PM): We're voting Naomi
spies4Candy (7:32:59 PM): It's a tossup between her and Cain for this exile
spies4Candy (7:33:00 PM): Both have to go
spies4Candy (7:33:06 PM): But with Naomi people will be able to focus
spies4Candy (7:33:13 PM): As long as she's here, she'll always be a distraction
spies4Zander (7:33:15 PM): I gotta get going guys, I'll be back later
spies4Candy (7:33:18 PM): A reason to split votes
spies4Zander (7:33:18 PM): we're sticking to Naomi, right?
spies4Candy (7:33:21 PM): Yes
spies4Zander (7:33:26 PM): Hell, either way I think she still has my vote
spies4Damon (7:33:29 PM): Have a great night Zander
spies4Zander (7:33:36 PM): I should be back later for Exile Damon
spies4Zander (7:33:41 PM): but glad to hear your trip was good :-P
spies4Damon (7:33:41 PM): I won't be here.
spies4Damon (7:33:51 PM): I have a birthday dinner for a colleague.
spies4Zander (7:34:32 PM): Oh sorry
spies4Zander (7:34:38 PM): see you later then Damon, have a good night
spies4Damon (7:34:41 PM): You too
spies4Adelaide (7:34:50 PM): spies4Adelaide (23:30:51): how was the investigation? spies4Damon (23:33:42): Investigation? spies4Adelaide (23:33:17): i mean vacation
spies4Candy (7:34:55 PM): FREUDIAN SLIP
spies4Adelaide (7:34:58 PM): lol
spies4Summer (7:35:25 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Damon (7:35:35 PM): You confused me that's for sure.
spies4Adelaide (7:36:50 PM): Yup. My entire family seems to have benefited from that win.
spies4Adelaide (7:36:58 PM): Abrams said that
spies4Candy (7:37:04 PM): Well he's right
spies4Candy (7:37:10 PM): Johan didn't get imprisoned
spies4Candy (7:37:12 PM): Abrams didn't get exiled
spies4Candy (7:37:15 PM): I didn't get exiled
spies4Damon (7:37:16 PM): What win is this?
spies4Candy (7:37:18 PM): And I got a spy
spies4Candy (7:37:22 PM): This is from episode 2 Damon
spies4Damon (7:37:41 PM): Your immunity?
spies4Candy (7:37:52 PM): Yeah exile 2
spies4Candy (7:37:54 PM): Not exile 5
spies4Damon (7:38:23 PM): OK
spies4Summer (7:39:06 PM): Guys
spies4Summer (7:39:08 PM): Go check in
spies4Summer (7:39:10 PM): Thread's in the burg
spies4Adelaide (7:39:11 PM): ye but talk about stating the obvious
spies4Adelaide (7:39:50 PM): Checked in
spies4Summer (7:40:11 PM): I have to go
spies4Summer (7:40:13 PM): Bye everyone
spies4Summer (7:40:15 PM): See you in a few
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spies4Candy (7:46:04 PM): Candy out
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spies4Damon (7:46:32 PM): Damon out too.
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spies4Adelaide (7:52:01 PM): back
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spies4Leon (7:52:25 PM): hola
spies4Masaki (7:52:34 PM): doh
spies4Leon (7:52:35 PM): oh Masaki
spies4Adelaide (7:52:35 PM): lol
spies4Leon (7:52:36 PM): i was drunk
spies4Masaki (7:52:40 PM): I didn't know you guys already had one up
spies4Leon (7:52:41 PM): i swear to god i never would've done it
spies4Adelaide (7:52:42 PM): that was a coincidence
spies4Adelaide (7:52:48 PM): never done wha?
spies4Leon (7:52:53 PM): nothing
spies4Masaki (7:52:56 PM): I was about to say it's been a while since we've had a chat going
spies4Masaki (7:53:12 PM): Hey
spies4Masaki (7:53:16 PM): Did anyone see that critique of mine?
spies4Masaki (7:53:21 PM): Like the fatemaker on heroin
spies4Leon (7:53:28 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (7:53:55 PM): Hang on let's get Cain in here
spies4Adelaide (7:54:02 PM): ye k-k-k-k-kwestion
spies4Masaki (7:54:20 PM): And who said I have on sense of humor!
spies4Masaki (7:54:22 PM): That is so bogus!
spies4Masaki (7:54:50 PM): Ok Cain is not joining
spies4Leon (7:55:29 PM): so
spies4Leon (7:55:37 PM): who should we expect to be leaving us?
spies4Masaki (7:56:02 PM): I think it's Cain
spies4Masaki (7:56:04 PM): I voted him
spies4Masaki (7:56:19 PM): He is not helping us, and he is probably a spy anyway
spies4Leon (7:56:45 PM): I voted Naomi
spies4Leon (7:56:56 PM): just so if she goes
spies4Leon (7:56:59 PM): i dont have to vote her again
spies4Leon (7:57:05 PM): because im tired of her lol
spies4Adelaide (7:57:13 PM): i actually voted naomi
spies4Leon (7:57:14 PM): and shes probably a spy
spies4Adelaide (7:57:18 PM): even though it kills me not to vote Cain
spies4Adelaide (7:57:29 PM): but as candy says, Naomi is a distraction
spies4Leon (7:57:41 PM): yeah
spies4Masaki (7:57:45 PM): What the hell?
spies4Adelaide (7:57:46 PM): naomi leaving will make things easier since cain wont impact exile 7
spies4Masaki (7:57:47 PM): So it's like
spies4Masaki (7:57:57 PM): You guys finally convince me to go another route and you guys turn around and backtrack?
spies4Adelaide (7:57:58 PM): but the REAL reason im voting is
spies4Adelaide (7:58:08 PM): i dont care who goes which round
spies4Masaki (7:58:12 PM): Yet again I'm in the minority!
spies4Adelaide (7:58:12 PM): naomi or cain
spies4Adelaide (7:58:24 PM): but since more people are voting naomi this exile cos theyre sick of her
spies4Adelaide (7:58:28 PM): then i will too
spies4Adelaide (7:58:42 PM): but if nobody is voting cain next round masaki, believe me i'll go ape
spies4Masaki (8:00:50 PM): Typically that IS what happens
spies4Adelaide (8:04:32 PM): problem with cain is
spies4Adelaide (8:04:43 PM): if he doesnt go this round
spies4Adelaide (8:04:54 PM): wait no
spies4Adelaide (8:05:02 PM): will he get a chacne to imprison?
spies4Masaki (8:05:42 PM): Well you're assuming he's in which group?
spies4Adelaide (8:05:49 PM): hes definitely trad
spies4Masaki (8:06:01 PM): If he's a traditionalist then no
spies4Adelaide (8:06:03 PM): thats the whole reason hes suspcious
spies4Masaki (8:06:05 PM): Majors went this week
spies4Adelaide (8:06:19 PM): ah ye i get it
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