Episode #6 - Conversations

[Leon]

[Leon]

Private IM with Candy

spies4Candy: Leon
spies4Leon: Yes?
spies4Candy: What's up
spies4Leon: nothing much, waitin for Imprisonment, you?
spies4Candy: Working on critiques
spies4Candy: I want to know why you didn't vote for Bev
spies4Leon: same reason as Mistaki
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: Your own words
spies4Candy: And don't bullshit me
spies4Leon: Bev could've had been telling the truth
spies4Leon: I suspected her and Naomi
spies4Leon: Bev sounded very honest, so I didnt want to risk i
spies4Leon: it*
spies4Leon: because if she was a cit, then that was gonna suck
spies4Leon: Naomi however, Im pretty sure of, and does not have some explanatory role
spies4Leon: so 99% sure of Naomi or 60% sure of Bev
spies4Leon: I just didnt want to end up losing a citizen on accident
spies4Candy: That makes you a complete and total wimp
spies4Candy: Why are you sure on Naomi
spies4Leon: because i've suspected her from Round 1, and nothing has proved it otherwise, she has many things against her, and i purely am just sure
spies4Candy: Reasons
spies4Candy: You thinking with your brain at all on this one?
spies4Leon: Yes, Ive gone through it before, i dont feel it needs to be explained, I think shes a spy, that should be what matters
spies4Candy: Explain it because I forgot
spies4Leon: well 1. If she is a spy, she's Orthodoxy, otherwise she wouldnt have been for the plan of voting Beverly Round one
spies4Candy: How di dyou guys decide on Bev?
spies4Leon: Masaki offered it, and we all agreed
spies4Leon: we thought that either she was an annoying as hell cit and good riddance
spies4Leon: or an annoying as hell spy and good riddance +1 us
spies4Leon: -1 them
spies4Candy: FYI Naomi doesn't have to be an orthodoxy spy to vote Bev
spies4Candy: First it was clear Bev wasn't going
spies4Candy: It was clearly a Kiyoshi v Martha exile
spies4Candy: You all knew your votes were meaningless if they weren't going for either
spies4Leon: yes, i wasnt done with the whole Orthodoxt explanation...
spies4Leon: that was my first point
spies4Leon: she targeted Beverly many times
spies4Leon: including her Manifesto thingy, but then again it was either her or Bev
spies4Candy: spies4Naomi: no no
spies4Naomi: spies vote for spies
spies4Candy: When there's a chance that the exile will go through?
spies4Candy: I doubt it
spies4Candy: In round 2?
spies4Candy: Too risky
spies4Naomi: I would
spies4Naomi: if I were them, and I was using a distancing tactic

spies4Leon: how about this
spies4Leon: either way
spies4Leon: shes a spy
spies4Candy: Why Orthodoxy?
spies4Candy: If she's the second who's the third?
spies4Candy: How does this fit together?
spies4Candy: I'm sincere in my question
spies4Leon: look, i dont know, after I made that theory, i thought that Bev and Naomi's groups were different
spies4Candy: No really
spies4Candy: Who do you think fits in with Angelica and Naomi
spies4Candy: And why
spies4Leon: look, i dont know, I had thought you but now I just dont know
spies4Leon: my suspicions of Naomi, Bev and you were based on something that was proved wrong
spies4Leon: so now I just dont know
spies4Leon: okay?
spies4Candy: Exile was Tuesday and it's now Friday
spies4Candy: Share your ideas
spies4Candy: You've had time to think about it
spies4Leon: look, after imprisonment, okay?
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: Because I'm being imprisoned
spies4Candy: We talk now.
spies4Leon: well then why does it matter if you're being imprisoned
spies4Candy: What if there's a twist with the loser people
spies4Candy: Always be prepared
spies4Leon: look, after imprisonment, if you're imprisoned, not my fault
spies4Candy: You're going to be in for a big surprise when you read your critiques
spies4Candy: They're all going to tell you what I'm telling you now
spies4Leon: i know
spies4Candy: So just do it
spies4Candy: Practice on me
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Leon: im a fucking beetle, all that
spies4Candy: Oh it'll be worse
spies4Candy: So start now
spies4Candy: Man up and just say what you think
spies4Leon: start with what?
spies4Leon: I dont think anything right now
spies4Leon: okay?
spies4Candy: Why do you think I'm kicking your ass right now?
spies4Leon: i have no clue right now
spies4Candy: You've had 3 days to think about this
spies4Candy: And you have nothing
spies4Candy: Carpe diem
spies4Leon: because since you think you're being imprisoned, you want to make sure that im gonna be a better player, i dont know
spies4Leon: why are you kicking my ass?..
spies4Leon: lol
spies4Candy: Do you think I'm a citizen?
spies4Candy: Do you think I have the citizens' best interest at heart?
spies4Candy: Do you think I want to see my side win once I'm gone?
spies4Candy: Who's going to win it for us hmm?
spies4Candy: Kip?
spies4Candy: Damon?
spies4Candy: Singe?
spies4Candy: You need an ass kicking because you need to step up
spies4Leon: I know
spies4Candy: So do it
spies4Leon: well i cant do it out of thin air
spies4Candy: Sometimes my best ideas come just from saying what's on my mind to someone else
spies4Candy: Sometimes the back of my brain knows stuff I'm not aware of yet
spies4Candy: Or if you're determined to be useless and stupid, don't try
spies4Leon: im not trying to be useless or stupid, theres just nothing I can really do
spies4Candy: So you're helpless
spies4Candy: And useless
spies4Leon: no
spies4Leon: im not
spies4Leon: I just dont want to be out there
spies4Leon: blabbing ideas
spies4Candy: WHY NOT
spies4Leon: BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO
spies4Leon: ITS BETTER TO HAVE A GOOD IDEA THAN A WORTHLESS ONE
spies4Leon: NO MATTER HOW OFTEN THEY COME
spies4Candy: It's better to have AN idea than NO ideas
spies4Candy: You have NO Ideas
spies4Leon: YET
spies4Candy: You don't even have worthless ideas
spies4Candy: You have no ideas
spies4Leon: wait
spies4Candy: That's way worse
spies4Leon: but if i gave a worthless idea
spies4Candy: Then at least you have an idea
spies4Leon: then all its doing is causing worthless things
spies4Candy: Adelaide spews stuff all the time
spies4Candy: Know what?
spies4Candy: She's right now and then
spies4Candy: You're never right
spies4Candy: Because you never have ideas
spies4Candy: Well you did once
spies4Candy: The "Bev Naomi and Candy are all spies" idea
spies4Candy: At least that was an idea
spies4Candy: I respected you for posting it
spies4Candy: You were wrong but you tried
spies4Candy: And it gave people something to talk to you about
spies4Candy: Instead of just "why the fuck don't you contribute Beetle?"
spies4Leon: look, every round i get an idea, if i didnt, then id have no votes
spies4Leon: *id make no votes*
spies4Candy: You don't
spies4Candy: Your vote last round was the easy way out
spies4Candy: Your vote for Bev was a copout in round 1
spies4Candy: Your vote for Jeremiah was me telling you what to do
spies4Leon: no
spies4Leon: i suspected him and Naomi
spies4Leon: Round 1
spies4Leon: and never heard his name until you
spies4Leon: but still was suspecting him before i heard it from you
spies4Candy: You've never said anything about it to me or the burg
spies4Leon: Look, sometimes its just better to stay low, and out of the way, sometimes its better to be out there, right now, i feel its better to be out of the way, if i gave a reason for it, than I wouldnt be out of the way would I?
spies4Candy: Stop that.
spies4Candy: You act like you're playing to survive
spies4Candy: Newsflash: You're up on everyone's spy list with Naomi
spies4Candy: Your survival strategy is making you a huge target
spies4Leon: look, im doing everything I can to help the citizens, but i cant do anything if theres nothing to do!!!!!! Im not trying to survive, but sticking around is more helpful than going
spies4Candy: That's why I asked you who's the third with Naomi and Angelica
spies4Leon: WELL I DONT KNOW
spies4Leon: I THOUGHT IT WAS YOU
spies4Leon: THAN I LEARNED I WAS WRONG
spies4Candy: And now you know it's not
spies4Leon: AND NOW I DONT KNOW
spies4Candy: So go back to the drawing board and think about it
spies4Candy: I've thought a lot about Cain
spies4Candy: You think I knew instantly what I was going to say in my posts?
spies4Candy: Well I didn't
spies4Candy: I went back through stuff
spies4Candy: And asked "how does he fit in with Emma and Bev"
spies4Candy: Well who's with Naomi and Angelica?
spies4Candy: "I don't know!!!!"
spies4Candy: Go think about it
spies4Candy: Actually give a shit
spies4Candy: Try
spies4Leon: Naomi used the im helpful technique, so did Angelica
spies4Leon: her big unity plot
spies4Leon: happened nearly the same time as Cain's Files
spies4Leon: as if the spies posted "HELP, but not really"
spies4Leon: I had that idea for a long time
spies4Leon: exactly why I suspected Jeremiah
spies4Candy: Wait what?
spies4Leon: Round 2
spies4Leon: Naomi and Jeremiah formed that unity plan
spies4Leon: same time as Cain opened the files
spies4Leon: that made me think the spies made a plan to pretend to help
spies4Leon: just as Angelica was doing
spies4Leon: oretending to help
spies4Leon: and just as I think Naomi is doing
spies4Leon: then theres Cain, who did those Government Files
spies4Leon: and then never did a thing with them
spies4Candy: See what I mean about Adelaide being right every now and then?
spies4Candy: Okay keep going
spies4Candy: So you think Cain is the third?
spies4Leon: if not Cain, then probably Hannah
spies4Leon: because during that round, she too was "helping a lot"
spies4Candy: And then got votes for it
spies4Leon: and then stopped
spies4Candy: And flipped out about it
spies4Leon: *flipped out, then stopped
spies4Leon: and now, shes getting by
spies4Leon: now, if this theory is true
spies4Leon: then by helping, you could get a target
spies4Leon: and then no one will listen
spies4Candy: 1) There are bigger targets than you for imprisonment
spies4Candy: That's guaranteed
spies4Leon: yes
spies4Leon: but for exile im in the top 4
spies4Candy: So stop worrying about that
spies4Candy: But if you post a theory that makes people go "Hmmm" then maybe they'll talk to you about other things
spies4Candy: And reach new conclusions
spies4Leon: yes but after i formed that thing about the spies are "helping"
spies4Leon: i didnt want to put myself out there
spies4Leon: because the ideas of these people get suddenly doubted then
spies4Leon: and they become possible spies
spies4Candy: Do you think people doubt my ideas on Cain?
spies4Leon: no, but you've had suspicions for a while
spies4Leon: i shouldnt have doubted
spies4Leon: have said*
spies4Candy: But if I'm right and Cain's a spy guess what?
spies4Candy: He's out
spies4Candy: Enough people have heard what I've said
spies4Leon: yes, but that could just be to save your own ass
spies4Candy: And they've changed their minds on him
spies4Candy: How do you think the spies are going to get voted out?
spies4Leon: everything in this game is seen as one of three things
spies4Leon: 1. Helpful
spies4Leon: 2. Possible
spies4Leon: 3. A Trick
spies4Candy: It's not that simple
spies4Leon: yes, they commonly intercept
spies4Leon: something may be helpful, but a trick
spies4Leon: Bev's thing was possible, but a trick
spies4Candy: What does this have to do with IDing spies?
spies4Candy: I worded my case well enough and planned for it far enough in advance that I got a spy out
spies4Leon: yes
spies4Leon: but it also caused me to suspect you
spies4Candy: If you don't build up credibility now, no one's going to listen to you down the line
spies4Candy: And you'll get exiled
spies4Leon: but you could still be a spy, because you could just be a diff. group than Bev
spies4Leon: but I doubt that
spies4Candy: Yeah I could be
spies4Candy: That's your job to figure out what's going on
spies4Candy: I know what I am but you have to figure it out for yourself
spies4Leon: figuring out, is much different than announcing it
spies4Candy: yeah well what happens when you figure a spy out?
spies4Candy: What are you going to do about it?
spies4Leon: announce it
spies4Candy: Who's going to listen to you?
spies4Leon: because thats something to announce
spies4Candy: A citizen's imprisoned tonight
spies4Candy: Bye bye Candy
spies4Candy: Anyway
spies4Leon: why do you think its going to be you?
spies4Candy: Gee
spies4Candy: Maybe REVENGE
spies4Candy: You don't think Bev left enough notes going "Get that Candy bitch out!"
spies4Candy: "She's too smart for her own good!'
spies4Leon: but anythings possible
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Candy: But if it's not me
spies4Candy: It's something worse
spies4Candy: So I'd prefer to think it's me
spies4Candy: Do you have any idea how much information Bev learned last round?
spies4Leon: they could leave you in, to make people think "Why wasnt she imprisoned"
spies4Candy: Do you have any idea?
spies4Candy: Do you have any idea how many 4 hour long convos she had with people?
spies4Candy: And do you know how much info you can spill in 4 hours?
spies4Leon: yes i get it
spies4Candy: If it's not me
spies4Candy: It's someone worse
spies4Leon: but none of it was really true was it?
spies4Candy: No I"m talking about the info the Naomi voters and others gave her
spies4Candy: The people who really trusted her after she talked to them for hours and hours without caps
spies4Candy: Trusted her enough that they ignored an investigation
spies4Candy: And told her everything they knew
spies4Leon: well i didnt
spies4Candy: Do you know how much last round hurt the citizens?
spies4Leon: because she could still be a spy
spies4Leon: and she was
spies4Leon: so im glad I didnt
spies4Candy: You're not getting what I'm saying
spies4Leon: you're not getting what im saying
spies4Leon: by telling this stuff, it hurt the citizens
spies4Candy: You're saying you didn't tell her anything important
spies4Leon: no i didnt tell her anything
spies4Leon: because i dont know how important something might be
spies4Leon: so unless im 100% positive, im not risking it
spies4Candy: Risk it
spies4Leon: why?
spies4Candy: Because what you think and say might help the citizens win the game
spies4Candy: But if you think and say nothing
spies4Candy: You're useless
spies4Candy: How helpful is Kip to the citizens, Leon?
spies4Leon: i dont know
spies4Leon: not much, that i know of at least
spies4Leon: he could be talking to everyone else but me
spies4Leon: well right now, you're safe
spies4Leon: prolly 2 or 3 more sections left
spies4Candy: If it's nto me it's worse
spies4Candy: So hope it's me
spies4Leon: its not you
spies4Leon: :-\
spies4Leon: oh no
spies4Candy signed off at 8:34:18 PM.

[Leon]

Chat

You have just entered room "spies4."
spies4Leon: hola
spies4Masaki: doh
spies4Leon: oh Masaki
spies4Adelaide: lol
spies4Leon: i was drunk
spies4Masaki: I didn't know you guys already had one up
spies4Leon: i swear to god i never would've done it
spies4Adelaide: that was a coincidence
spies4Adelaide: never done wha?
spies4Leon: nothing
spies4Masaki: I was about to say it's been a while since we've had a chat going
spies4Masaki: Hey
spies4Masaki: Did anyone see that critique of mine?
spies4Masaki: Like the fatemaker on heroin
spies4Leon: haha
spies4Masaki: Hang on let's get Cain in here
spies4Adelaide: ye k-k-k-k-kwestion
spies4Masaki: And who said I have on sense of humor!
spies4Masaki: That is so bogus!
spies4Masaki: Ok Cain is not joining
spies4Leon: so
spies4Leon: who should we expect to be leaving us?
spies4Masaki: I think it's Cain
spies4Masaki: I voted him
spies4Masaki: He is not helping us, and he is probably a spy anyway
spies4Leon: I voted Naomi
spies4Leon: just so if she goes
spies4Leon: i dont have to vote her again
spies4Leon: because im tired of her lol
spies4Adelaide: i actually voted naomi
spies4Leon: and shes probably a spy
spies4Adelaide: even though it kills me not to vote Cain
spies4Adelaide: but as candy says, Naomi is a distraction
spies4Leon: yeah
spies4Masaki: What the hell?
spies4Adelaide: naomi leaving will make things easier since cain wont impact exile 7
spies4Masaki: So it's like
spies4Masaki: You guys finally convince me to go another route and you guys turn around and backtrack?
spies4Adelaide: but the REAL reason im voting is
spies4Adelaide: i dont care who goes which round
spies4Masaki: Yet again I'm in the minority!
spies4Adelaide: naomi or cain
spies4Adelaide: but since more people are voting naomi this exile cos theyre sick of her
spies4Adelaide: then i will too
spies4Adelaide: but if nobody is voting cain next round masaki, believe me i'll go ape
spies4Masaki: Typically that IS what happens
spies4Adelaide: problem with cain is
spies4Adelaide: if he doesnt go this round
spies4Adelaide: wait no
spies4Adelaide: will he get a chacne to imprison?
spies4Masaki: Well you're assuming he's in which group?
spies4Adelaide: hes definitely trad
spies4Masaki: If he's a traditionalist then no
spies4Adelaide: thats the whole reason hes suspcious
spies4Masaki: Majors went this week
spies4Adelaide: ah ye i get it