Post by Summer on Nov 1, 2007 18:11:37 GMT -5
spies4Summer (6:31:27 PM): Hi Cain
spies4Cain (6:31:56 PM): hey whats up
spies4Summer (6:32:14 PM): Nothing much ... Getting ready for an evening class
spies4Summer (6:32:23 PM): But I figured I should check in and see what's been going on all day
spies4Summer (6:32:33 PM): How are you doing?
spies4Cain (6:32:57 PM): im good my week thankfully has ended
spies4Cain (6:33:00 PM): what have you been up to
spies4Summer (6:33:10 PM): Oh just trying to figure out a few things
spies4Summer (6:33:17 PM): I really like the critique idea
spies4Summer (6:33:32 PM): Cain, were you surprised to see Beverly was a spy?
spies4Summer (6:33:37 PM): You seemed really sure before her exile that she wasn't
spies4Cain (6:34:22 PM): I'm not shocked that she was spy
spies4Cain (6:34:28 PM): but I didn't think she was
spies4Summer (6:34:40 PM): Why didn't you vote for her?
spies4Cain (6:34:53 PM): because I didn't think she was a spy
spies4Summer (6:35:11 PM): Not even a little?
spies4Cain (6:35:12 PM): who did you vote for?
spies4Cain (6:35:22 PM): I thought she was a spy earlier in the game
spies4Summer (6:35:23 PM): Beverly
spies4Summer (6:35:43 PM): There was little doubt in my mind that she was a spy
spies4Summer (6:35:52 PM): Her fake role confirmed it for me after her initial reaction
spies4Cain (6:36:23 PM): the way she acted it made me think she was a spy at the start
spies4Cain (6:36:29 PM): and until about half way
spies4Summer (6:36:34 PM): Then what happened?
spies4Cain (6:36:48 PM): when she wanted ralph to stay
spies4Cain (6:37:03 PM):
I don't see why a spy would try to make a cit who has a role stay
spies4Summer (6:37:22 PM): Did you think Ralph had a role?
spies4Cain (6:37:30 PM): yes and no
spies4Cain (6:37:32 PM): but the thing was
spies4Cain (6:37:37 PM): would the spies test it out?
spies4Cain (6:38:02 PM): do you think a spy would risk getting removed from the game for imprisoning ralph?
spies4Cain (6:38:10 PM): i think not
spies4Summer (6:38:15 PM): No one believed Ralph's role
spies4Cain (6:38:21 PM): and ralph would have been a HUGE advantage
spies4Cain (6:38:33 PM): people did
spies4Summer (6:38:34 PM): There was a question about whether he had one or not but no one believed that what he said his role did was what it really did
spies4Cain (6:38:40 PM): people may have doubted it
spies4Summer (6:38:46 PM): No they doubted whether he had one or not
spies4Summer (6:38:53 PM): But no one believed his description
spies4Summer (6:39:02 PM): At least I don't think anyone did
spies4Cain (6:39:20 PM): i don't think a spy would want to test his role claim
spies4Summer (6:39:32 PM): Well Beverly did so you're wrong
spies4Cain (6:39:52 PM): how did she test his role?
spies4Summer (6:40:13 PM): You said that you don't see why a spy would try to make a citizen who has a role stay
spies4Summer (6:40:21 PM): Beverly wanted Ralph investigated, not exiled
spies4Summer (6:40:36 PM): So it's proven that a spy did try to make a citizen who claimed to have a role stay
spies4Cain (6:41:04 PM): and i said that is why i stopped suspecting beverly
spies4Summer (6:41:10 PM): Oh
spies4Summer (6:41:13 PM): You keep using present tense verbs
spies4Summer (6:41:33 PM): But you were SO SURE that you gave her the tiebreaker
spies4Cain (6:41:43 PM): i gave her the tiebreaker so i could have control of it again
spies4Summer (6:41:51 PM): What if Beverly had used it?
spies4Cain (6:41:51 PM): i figured she would go
spies4Cain (6:42:00 PM): then naomi would be gone
spies4Cain (6:42:06 PM): but bev didn't use it
spies4Summer (6:42:08 PM): But Beverly would have control of the tiebreaker
spies4Cain (6:42:16 PM): me giving bev the tie breaker prob made more people vote bev
spies4Summer (6:42:26 PM): I don't think that's true
spies4Cain (6:42:31 PM): you don't think what is true
spies4Summer (6:42:46 PM): I don't think that your action of passing the tiebreaker to Beverly made more people vote Beverly
spies4Summer (6:42:55 PM): Who do you think changed?
spies4Summer (6:43:10 PM): Actually I can think of one person
spies4Cain (6:43:25 PM): someone told me they wouldn't vote naomi
spies4Cain (6:43:33 PM): but didnt care if they voted bev
spies4Cain (6:43:38 PM): i forget who said that
spies4Cain (6:43:44 PM): i think you actualyl said that
spies4Summer (6:43:49 PM): I didn't say that
spies4Summer (6:43:51 PM): No way
spies4Summer (6:44:00 PM): I suspect Naomi but I was sure on Beverly
spies4Summer (6:44:12 PM): An investigation confirmed it
spies4Summer (6:44:15 PM): I didn't need any more proof
spies4Cain (6:44:55 PM): spies4Summer (8:23:40 PM):And if she's against Naomi then I'm not comfortable with a Naomi vote
spies4Summer (6:44:59 PM): I just can't believe that if one more person had voted Naomi, you would have passed the tiebreaker over to 3 spies
spies4Summer (6:45:17 PM): That's not the same thing as what you said
spies4Cain (6:45:45 PM): i'm sorry i didn't memorize your exact words
spies4Summer (6:45:50 PM):
spies4Cain (6:45:51 PM): means the same thing i said
spies4Summer (6:45:55 PM): No it doesn't
spies4Cain (6:45:58 PM): how did the votes go
spies4Summer (6:46:09 PM): 8 Beverly, 7 Naomi
spies4Summer (6:46:17 PM): The rest were single votes
spies4Cain (6:46:26 PM): random votes or were they self?
spies4Summer (6:46:30 PM): No self votes
spies4Summer (6:46:35 PM): You were there
spies4Cain (6:46:47 PM): for a self vote?
spies4Cain (6:46:56 PM): i didn't self vote
spies4Summer (6:46:58 PM): What?
spies4Summer (6:46:59 PM): I know
spies4Summer (6:47:01 PM): You voted Naomi
spies4Cain (6:47:06 PM): spies4Summer (6:46:35 PM): You were there
spies4Cain (6:47:08 PM): ?
spies4Summer (6:47:17 PM): Yes, you should know how the votes went because you were there
spies4Cain (6:47:22 PM): ummm....
spies4Cain (6:47:25 PM): I wasn't there
spies4Summer (6:47:33 PM): I thought you were since we talked beforehand
spies4Cain (6:47:41 PM): I left because I went out
spies4Cain (6:47:51 PM): I voted around 8:30 or 9
spies4Cain (6:47:58 PM): at least an hour before
spies4Cain (6:48:00 PM): and then i left
spies4Summer (6:48:04 PM): Okay
spies4Summer (6:48:16 PM): So if you had to do it again, would you still vote Naomi?
spies4Cain (6:48:31 PM): is that a real question lmao
spies4Summer (6:48:36 PM): Yes
spies4Cain (6:48:53 PM): so knowing that bev is a spy would i vote someone who may be a spy
spies4Cain (6:49:05 PM): that question should not be asked to anyone
spies4Summer (6:49:08 PM): You might think Naomi is a bigger key to figuring out who the spies are
spies4Cain (6:49:14 PM): because the answer will always be i would vote the spy
spies4Summer (6:49:26 PM): Well Masaki thought both were spies and voted Naomi
spies4Summer (6:49:38 PM): So to him, voting Naomi would still be voting for the spy
spies4Cain (6:49:59 PM): i don't know how i feel about naomi anymore though
spies4Summer (6:50:04 PM): What do you mean?
spies4Cain (6:50:06 PM): bev got me into thinking she was a spy
spies4Cain (6:50:17 PM): but now with bev being a spy i don't know if i should trust what she said
spies4Summer (6:50:29 PM): There are definitely things you should trust
spies4Summer (6:50:35 PM): Undoubtable
spies4Cain (6:50:40 PM): such as
spies4Summer (6:50:55 PM): Such as her insistence before she was exposed that Abrams was a spy
spies4Summer (6:50:59 PM): Clearly he's not
spies4Cain (6:51:05 PM): she didn
spies4Cain (6:51:14 PM): 't start saying abrams was a spy until i did first
spies4Summer (6:51:22 PM): She's been saying it since day 1
spies4Summer (6:51:37 PM): "AFTER WE GOT ROLES HE SAID WE SHOULD BE FRIENDS THAT"S SUPICIOUS TO ME"
spies4Cain (6:51:39 PM): i didn't hear it from her until when ralph l;eft
spies4Summer (6:52:07 PM): Then ask others
spies4Summer (6:52:12 PM): Just because you didn't hear it doesn't mean it didn't happen
spies4Cain (6:52:20 PM): i never said it didn't happen
spies4Summer (6:52:25 PM): Okay
spies4Summer (6:52:49 PM): What do you think about who's a spy now that you know Beverly was one?
spies4Cain (6:53:50 PM): i don't know who i think is a spy now
spies4Cain (6:53:56 PM): i haven't been on a lot since last week
spies4Cain (6:54:05 PM): and since abrams is now "cleared" i don't know who i suspect
spies4Cain (6:54:20 PM): Who do you think is a spy?
spies4Summer (6:54:29 PM): I have a few guesses
spies4Summer (6:54:36 PM): But I'm more interested in you because you're being accused
spies4Summer (6:55:00 PM): And the time will probably come when I have to decide whether I should prevent your exile or waste my vote
spies4Summer (6:55:14 PM): So who do you suspect, Cain?
spies4Summer (6:55:25 PM): There are what, 18 people left in the game?
spies4Summer (6:55:32 PM): We're three weeks in?
spies4Cain (6:55:31 PM): i have no idea
spies4Summer (6:55:35 PM): Surely you have some idea
spies4Cain (6:55:37 PM): i haven't been around a lot in the last week
spies4Summer (6:55:56 PM): That isn't helping
spies4Cain (6:56:28 PM): and exiling me isn't going to help you either
spies4Cain (6:56:33 PM): but i don't know what you want me to tell you
spies4Summer (6:56:57 PM): Ideas you have and things you've heard and connections you've realized
spies4Summer (6:57:02 PM): Anything other than "Well I have no idea"
spies4Cain (6:57:29 PM): I haven't gotten a chance to read over the board yet
spies4Cain (6:57:39 PM): I haven't read it since monday
spies4Summer (6:58:16 PM): What do you think of the Cain suspicions thread?
spies4Cain (7:00:01 PM): its bullshit
spies4Cain (7:01:13 PM): what do you think of it
spies4Summer (7:01:30 PM): I'm thinking that it's cool that people are thinking about your past actions
spies4Summer (7:01:38 PM): And that it's not cool that you can't bother to do the same
spies4Summer (7:01:52 PM): At least I know who suspects you and why
spies4Summer (7:02:03 PM): I have no idea who you suspect or why
spies4Summer (7:02:08 PM): They're helping and you're not
spies4Cain (7:02:28 PM): well i am sorry that my life has been very busy this past week
spies4Summer (7:02:43 PM): Yeah that can be rough
spies4Cain (7:05:55 PM): well is there something that you want to specifically ask me about the thread?
spies4Summer (7:06:14 PM): I guess I already asked what I wanted to know
spies4Summer (7:06:18 PM): Mostly Beverly stuff
spies4Cain (7:08:12 PM): so why are you suspecting me?
spies4Summer (7:08:34 PM): For one thing, I suspect everyone
spies4Summer (7:09:03 PM): You caught my attention by the way you handled the last exile
spies4Cain (7:09:21 PM): alright well i told you my reasons
spies4Summer (7:11:20 PM): I'm also really hungry
spies4Summer (7:11:22 PM): So I have to go
spies4Cain (7:11:27 PM): alright bye
spies4Summer (7:11:38 PM): Bye