spies4Singe: Hey Candy, busy?
spies4Candy: Always
spies4Candy: But for you I'll find time
spies4Singe: win
spies4Singe: so, what shall we discuss this morning?
spies4Singe: Mistaki?
spies4Singe: Leon?
spies4Singe: Summer?
spies4Candy: Everything
spies4Singe: What's your take on Hannah?
spies4Candy: Not a Traditionalist
spies4Singe: if either Summer or Hannah was an Ortho, which would be more likely?
spies4Candy: I'm not going down that road
spies4Singe: ok
spies4Candy: I'll talk about who I think is an Orthodoxy spy
spies4Candy: But I'd leave both of those names off the list
spies4Singe: ok
spies4Singe: I am dying to know why you guys trust each other
spies4Singe: because it makes no sense and seems it can only be related to some kind of Cit role
spies4Candy: You're dying to know a lot of things about me and that's why you're so eager to exile me
spies4Singe: your reading comprehension is poor
spies4Candy: I'm the one person in this game who won't tell you everything I know
spies4Candy: And it's driving you crazy
spies4Candy: Deal with it
spies4Singe: "Personally, I think Candy would be a terrible exile. She's one of the few people actually saying something these days, and I do think if she's a Spy we'll be able to track her down via her words AND/OR the opposite Spy team will eventually take her out."
spies4Candy: Yes I read that
spies4Candy: I also know you've been going around trying to make a case for me as an Orthodoxy spy
spies4Singe: not at all
spies4Candy: So your public behavior isn't matching your private
spies4Singe: The only evidence I have is that Leon+you thing
spies4Singe: but I found some evidence that pointed to the opposite yesterday
spies4Singe: did you see it?
spies4Candy: I wanted to beat the crap out of Leon last night
spies4Candy: Not last night
spies4Candy: Last morning
spies4Singe: "5. Ang hadn't met Bunni or Candy several days later. Odds are slim that Bunni or Candy are Orthos based on that info."
spies4Candy: And I'm not sure what you're referring to
spies4Singe: "Candy probably not an Ortho."
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Singe: i'm not closed-minded
spies4Candy: Works for me
spies4Singe: I follow the evidence
spies4Candy: So do I
spies4Singe: unlike 10 people left in this game
spies4Candy: And my evidence says that unless we get the last Traditionalist out this round, some citizens are majorly, majorly screwed
spies4Singe: why?
spies4Candy: OMG CANDY IS AFTER THE TRADITIONALIST
spies4Candy: Because thanks to Bev, the last Traditionalist knows some stuff
spies4Singe: hmm?
spies4Candy: You go think about it
spies4Singe: who on earth would have trusted bev
spies4Singe: with anything important?
spies4Candy: Have you not been paying attention?
spies4Singe: gordy did
spies4Candy: I've been trying to tell you this since you came back
spies4Candy: When I accused Bev, she sprung into action
spies4Candy: She had LONG conversations with EVERYONE (except me)
spies4Candy: She knew identities
spies4Candy: She knew roles
spies4Candy: She knew EVERYTHING
spies4Candy: Because after she worked on them for hours, they told her EVERYTHING
spies4Singe: people are retards
spies4Candy: YEAH
spies4Candy: Why do you think I got so many scathing critiques?
spies4Singe: well then, i should be your best pal
spies4Candy: Because after she was exiled and people came forward with "Gee Candy you were right and I told Bev way too much" I made them feel horrible about themselves
spies4Singe: i can analyze you and modestly suspect you without giving away my goodie bits to any tramp who comes along
spies4Candy: Yeah well Bev was good.
spies4Candy: Period.
spies4Singe: why didnt you get exiled last night?
spies4Candy: The last Traditionalist knows way more than they should
spies4Candy: There wasn't an exile last night and Bunni was on trial
spies4Singe: er impris
spies4Candy: You mean imprisoned 2 nights ago?
spies4Candy: I'd ask the same question of you
spies4Singe: yeah when addy did
spies4Candy: Why wasn't it me or you?
spies4Singe: do you think the spies are gunning for Spies?
spies4Singe: addy didnt look like a spy at all to me
spies4Candy: She didn't look to me like a spy either
spies4Singe: she was my #1 cit
spies4Candy: I wouldn't go that far
spies4Singe: she didnt seem capable of deception
spies4Candy: She was a wild card to me
spies4Singe: or rather, she came across as very sincere
spies4Singe: let's see, how can we use our time best here
spies4Candy: I regret that she's not here because over the last 2 episodes we built up an okay relationship - but her going means I'm still here
spies4Singe: cain/leon
spies4Singe: also, hopefully there's a protective role that's keeping the spies off your ass, if you're not an ortho
spies4Candy: Maybe
spies4Singe: i assume that if there is, they're protecting you or me every chance they get
spies4Candy: Well whatever role there is I'd bet both spy groups know about it
spies4Candy: And are coordinating to work around it
spies4Singe: that was my guess about adelaide
spies4Candy: So why does Cain have this tiebreaker
spies4Singe: that looked like a kill designed to avoid protection
spies4Candy: I didn't think about it that way
spies4Singe: um, no clue, my guess is it's a setup
spies4Singe: yeah i mean why adelaide
spies4Singe: she's not on anyone's tail
spies4Candy: I've been going down the more conventional route of "She was after Leon" "She wanted to vote Cain"etc
spies4Singe: no one listens to her overly
spies4Candy: Oh ho
spies4Candy: Everyone listened to her
spies4Singe: nah
spies4Singe: she was crackpot
spies4Candy: How does someone get a critique from nearly every player if no one listens to them?
spies4Singe: she said a lot and people took it with a grain of salt
spies4Candy: She got more than I did
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Singe: well, a lot of the critiques were "you so crazy"
spies4Candy: And I'm supposed to be the center of attention
spies4Singe: right
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Singe: even in the Guest Forum
spies4Singe: one observer posted
spies4Candy: Do you agree that the last Traditionalist is Beetle, Truman or Mistaki?
spies4Singe: "Sorry to see you go Adelaide because you have been an active player. Maybe you are suspected as being in the other spy group because of the confusion caused by your many theories.
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spies4Candy: I personally don't see any way around it
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Singe: who's truman?
spies4Candy: Cain
spies4Singe: haha
spies4Singe: and no
spies4Singe: i mean
spies4Singe: what's to say Damon, Johan, Faizah arent
spies4Candy: For each?
spies4Singe: i havent done the legwork
spies4Candy: Damon and Johan because they voted Bev out
spies4Singe: but i cant imagine eliminating them
spies4Singe: ah
spies4Candy: I am still adamant about the last Traditionalist being on the Naomi side of the vote
spies4Singe: and the trads were so focused on keeping bev
spies4Singe: ok
spies4Singe: possible
spies4Candy: Faizah ...
spies4Singe: but the naomi vote for damon was SO weird
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Candy: It was
spies4Singe: it almost reeks of misdirection
spies4Candy: Well here's the way I see it
spies4Candy: Someone made a post that Bev's RARRRRRRRRR behavior was directed towards 2 groups
spies4Candy: Her other spies, like Naomi
spies4Candy: "naomi u r a CUNT"
spies4Candy: And the people she targeted
spies4Singe: yah
spies4Candy: Like Abrams and Pudgette
spies4Singe: summer said that
spies4Candy: Well I had this convo with Naomi
spies4Candy: 1 sec
spies4Candy: Fuck what episode was this in
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: Singe keeps asking abotu fake fights
spies4Naomi: yeah
spies4Naomi: exactly
spies4Candy: "Does this look fake to you?"
spies4Naomi: bev and damon
spies4Naomi: for ex
spies4Candy: Damon then voted for Bev
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: In an exile where no one reallyknew who was going
spies4Naomi: yeah
spies4Candy: Which makes me think it's not staged
spies4Candy: They could be spies on opposite sides but not together
spies4Naomi: no no
spies4Naomi: spies vote for spies
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: When there's a chance that the exile will go through?
spies4Candy: I doubt it
spies4Candy: In round 2?
spies4Candy: Too risky
spies4Naomi: I would
spies4Naomi: if I were them, and I was using a distancing tactic
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: Naomi, that's pushing it
spies4Candy: Be realistic
spies4Naomi: eh, I guess you're right
spies4Naomi: that's a bit extreme
spies4Candy: In my view yeah
spies4Singe: naomi distanced
spies4Singe: i dont think bev did, did she?
spies4Candy: Yeah 1 sec getting to that
spies4Candy: I can't find where she says it
spies4Candy: Ugh 1 sec
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: It also says you'd believe someone would vote for a cospy in round 1
spies4Candy: Since you might have done it yourself
spies4Candy: Damon and placating?
spies4Naomi: fuck, that's true...
spies4Singe: haha
spies4Candy: That was less exciting than I remembered it as
spies4Candy: I remember her response as like
spies4Candy: "oh shit lol" or smething
spies4Singe: haha
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Singe: not sure about catching the last Trad via voting pattern
spies4Candy: I think that Bev thought that if she could make herself a big target in the first few rounds, by having her other spies vote for her, she'd be less thought of in later rounds
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Candy: And Cain and Damon did vote for her in episode 2
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Candy: So maybe I'm wrong to not suspect Damon
spies4Candy: At least not as a Traditionalist
spies4Singe: well, i am pretty positive damon is a power role, so i doubt he's the trad
spies4Candy: You don't know that
spies4Candy: I mean, Kip and Damon got replacements
spies4Singe: otherwise, why would sam have begged him to replace in
spies4Candy: Kiyoshi and Emma didn't
spies4Candy: Emma had an important role
spies4Singe: she did?
spies4Candy: SPY
spies4Singe: well
spies4Singe: that was a bone to us
spies4Singe: considering we had 3 cits idle out
spies4Singe: 3-1, fair trade especially since she was a trad
spies4Singe: sam wouldnt have given us an ortho
spies4Candy: That's another dead end route
spies4Candy: I refuse to play the game of "What would the host do?"
spies4Singe: meh
spies4Candy: Period.
spies4Singe: in the absence of other stuff i'd use it
spies4Candy: I wouldn't, ever.
spies4Singe: but we have plenty to work with, just not on damon
spies4Singe: damon, faizah, johan
spies4Singe: what if those three are the last 3 spies
spies4Singe: how on earth will we muster the will to vote them any time soon?
spies4Singe: right now it's "pick off the most suspicious vocal player"
spies4Candy: No it's not
spies4Candy: Cain's not vocal
spies4Candy: And neither is Leon
spies4Singe: true
spies4Singe: but those three have lied even lower i think
spies4Candy: And Adelaide wasn't either
spies4Candy: So basically you're wrong
spies4Singe: i mean for Exile
spies4Singe: i just dont know how we're going to eval those three
spies4Candy: Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the answer
spies4Singe: i guess the same way as with cain now
spies4Candy: And dont' even talk to me about that
spies4Candy: Don't even start
spies4Singe: hmm?
spies4Candy: You fucking had your chance to get out a player we'll never ever ever ever have info on
spies4Candy: And you fucking blew it
spies4Candy: Don't even start
spies4Singe: i had SOE info
spies4Singe: SOME
spies4Candy: Liar
spies4Candy: You had SQUAT
spies4Singe: and i think my judgment was right
spies4Candy: WRONG
spies4Singe: want me to find it?
spies4Candy: It doesn't even fucking matter now
spies4Candy: She's immune
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Candy: Save it for when it's actually worth considering
spies4Singe: so you dont care about bunni's alignment
spies4Candy: Bunni
spies4Singe: you just want her out
spies4Candy: Had to go
spies4Singe: nah
spies4Candy: Because we'll NEVER know what she is
spies4Singe: one sec catch this
spies4Singe: three days in:
spies4Singe: "spies4Angelica: I haven't had the chance to meet Bunni, Candy, or Naomi. But I think that's it, everyone else I've seen at least once."
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Singe: "spies4Emma: innocent ppl? ... hhhmmm well actually i think that gordy is not a spy
spies4Emma: !!!!
spies4Emma: i dont think hes spy material!
spies4Emma: adelaide seems clean to me, i dont know why
spies4Emma: and bunni too"
spies4Candy: Bunni says she NEVER talked to Angelica
spies4Singe: right
spies4Singe: thus the odds she's an ortho very slim
spies4Candy: How can you be in a game for 4 rounds and NEVER talk to someone?
spies4Candy: They are both night players
spies4Candy: They had to have crossed paths at least once
spies4Candy: Hell
spies4Candy: I know they did
spies4Singe: it's too risky to lie about something like that
spies4Candy: They were both there for the "Imitate this!" game
spies4Singe: i repeat
spies4Singe: "it's too risky to lie about something like that"
spies4Candy: They clearly talked
spies4Singe: not buying it
spies4Candy: The proof's in the burg
spies4Singe: i had a mild cit vibe off bunni early in the game
spies4Singe: and everything she's posted lately gives me the same vibe
spies4Candy: Vibe?
spies4Candy: OK you enjoy your vibes
spies4Singe: i talked to her for 20 minutes before the trial
spies4Singe: to help make up my mind
spies4Singe: she was not the least bit evasive
spies4Singe: or concerned
spies4Singe: she was basically a bored cit
spies4Candy: Doesn't that strike you as weird?
spies4Singe: and she wanted to be a spy but didnt get her wish
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: Wellshe's here
spies4Candy: She's not goign anywhere
spies4Candy: NEXT
spies4Singe: "Right after roles were handed out, four players logged immediately, according to Masaki:
Kiyoshi, Grace, Bunni, Abrams."
spies4Candy: Abrams was still around
spies4Candy: He was in our group chat
spies4Candy: Just not the main chat
spies4Singe: he logged right after, it's been posted
spies4Singe: he came back i guess?
spies4Candy: I'd have to check
spies4Candy: But I do remember talking to him
spies4Singe: anyhow, bunni, grace, kiyoshi all left bam bam bam
spies4Singe: and if i were a spy
spies4Candy: You'd stick around
spies4Candy: Right
spies4Candy: I would too
spies4Singe: i'd be excited to talk to my new spy buddies
spies4Singe: so bunni =/= spy for like 5 reasons
spies4Singe: but we'll see
spies4Candy: Well she also didn't stick around for a chat she WAS invited to
spies4Candy: Bev's HOTTIE CLUB
spies4Singe: who were the divas?
spies4Singe: bev, faiz, bunni
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Singe: and
spies4Singe: gordy?
spies4Candy: Abrams did leave
spies4Candy: spies4Abrams: I'm heading out. IM me if anything big happens, or a comet crashes and kills anyone.
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Candy: So did Lise
spies4Singe: see, this is all evidence, none to be taken as gospel
spies4Singe: but it adds up
spies4Candy: spies4Lise: I'm going to go now. I'll see you all again, soon.
spies4Candy: Bye Lise
spies4Candy: Call me
spies4Lise: I shall.
spies4Abrams: Adios.
spies4Lise has left the room.
spies4Abrams: I'm heading out. IM me if anything big happens, or a comet crashes and kills anyone.
spies4Singe: haha
spies4Singe: i would rather axe leon than cain this turn
spies4Singe: but i am getting slightly cold feet on Leon
spies4Candy: And I'd rather axe a certain someone over Cain
spies4Singe: who?
spies4Candy: But neither of us are going to get our wish
spies4Candy: Pass.
spies4Singe: wtf
spies4Singe: ...
spies4Candy: You'll run and tell
spies4Singe: you girls and your secrets
spies4Candy: I operate quietly
spies4Singe: like hell i will
spies4Candy: Well not really
spies4Singe: i havent told a single thing i was asked not to this game
spies4Candy: Spies tell other spies everything
spies4Singe: right so ill tell my one partner
spies4Singe: or my zero partners
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Singe: oh wait
spies4Singe: im not a spy