Episode VIII

[Kip]

Hannah

spies4kip (12:07:02 AM): how goes it hannah
spies4hannah (12:07:26 AM): i am disappointed in the result
spies4kip (12:07:35 AM): why?
spies4kip (12:07:49 AM): really felt strongly on the spy?
spies4hannah (12:07:51 AM): because i have watched bunni's erratic behaviour since the beginning
spies4hannah (12:08:30 AM): and she was completely inept at showing one useful thing she had done this game
spies4kip (12:09:03 AM): i see
spies4kip (12:09:12 AM): im sure you could find something
spies4kip (12:09:38 AM): besides, in two rounds, we can vote her out if need be
spies4hannah (12:09:42 AM): right from the beginning i suspected her and it would have been nice to clear her off the suspect list
spies4kip (12:10:23 AM): ah
spies4kip (12:10:36 AM): looks like she suspected you at the start too though
spies4kip (12:10:47 AM): have you ever posted you suspected her in the beginning?
spies4hannah (12:10:58 AM): yes
spies4hannah signed off at 12:33:34 AM.

[Kip]

Candy

spies4kip (11:23:39 PM): ah sorry i x'd the box
spies4kip (11:23:41 PM): what was that?
spies4Candy (11:23:48 PM): I said I've changed my vote 4 times so far
spies4kip (11:23:57 PM): wow
spies4kip (11:24:02 PM): lots of back and forth
spies4Candy (11:24:10 PM): No kidding
spies4Candy (11:24:23 PM): I've finally made up my mind though and after what she said I'm totally fine with it
spies4Candy (11:24:53 PM): Whatever!
spies4kip (11:25:10 PM): just cuz she suspects you?
spies4Candy (11:25:24 PM): No
spies4Candy (11:26:12 PM): Because of what she said before that
spies4Candy (11:26:17 PM): Among other reasons
spies4kip (11:26:24 PM): oh i must have missed that since i was late
spies4Candy (11:26:49 PM): spies4Zander: Bunni, you never answered my question where I specifically asked you to name three times where you were helpful and contributive (word?) to the rest of the players any time before Exile V. And I want physical proof.
spies4Candy (11:26:57 PM): spies4Bunni: well, i don't have time to go through all the burg to look for stuff like that right now. if you don't think i'm helpful, i don't know what to do. i don't see how that makes me a spy, either, though.
spies4kip (11:27:52 PM): ah
spies4kip (11:28:17 PM): question, what three things has zander posted that contributed so much before exile v?
spies4Candy (11:28:57 PM): HAHA
spies4Candy (11:28:58 PM): Touche
spies4Candy (11:29:13 PM): He definitely had input on the previous exiles
spies4kip (11:29:20 PM): people should at least make sure the things they are asking, they have at least done
spies4kip (11:29:25 PM): well ive missed it
spies4Candy (11:29:36 PM): It's a good question though
spies4kip (11:29:51 PM): i dont like how some people are acting with this trial
spies4Candy (11:29:58 PM): Yeah?
spies4kip (11:30:02 PM): yeah, its for a good cause, but some people are being extremely rude
spies4Candy (11:30:11 PM): Yeah
spies4kip (11:30:25 PM): just cuz they have power, doesnt mean you have to bite a persons head off
spies4Candy (11:31:55 PM): I told Summer to tell them to cook it
spies4Candy (11:31:57 PM): cool it
spies4kip (11:32:03 PM): lol
spies4Candy (11:32:11 PM): Hey when you're right you're right
spies4kip (12:19:18 AM): well i guess shes innocent
spies4kip (12:19:19 AM): for now anyway
spies4kip (12:25:12 AM): oh candy, can i ask you somethng?
spies4Candy (12:25:17 AM): Yeah
spies4kip (12:25:49 AM): now, dont get mad at me, but i heard from a few people today that you told others about your investigation right after you did it, is that true?
spies4kip (12:26:26 AM): you dont have to tell me who they are if you did
spies4kip (12:26:31 AM): i was just wondering if it was true
spies4Candy (12:26:43 AM): Yeah it's true
spies4Candy (12:26:55 AM): In case I was imprisoned
spies4Candy (12:26:57 AM): So I PMed 2 people
spies4kip (12:27:30 AM): and you had no doubts those people were spies?
spies4Candy (12:27:39 AM): I found about Bev between rounds 2 and 3
spies4Candy (12:27:44 AM): I had little to go on
spies4Candy (12:27:47 AM): That's why I told 2 people
spies4Candy (12:27:50 AM): Inc ase one actually was a spy
spies4Candy (12:28:08 AM): I figured out of 27 people the odds were in my favor
spies4kip (12:28:12 AM): yeah
spies4Candy (12:28:12 AM): Or whatever it was
spies4Candy (12:28:13 AM): 25
spies4kip (12:28:15 AM): makes sense
spies4kip (12:28:24 AM): odds of picking two people in bevs group was small
spies4Candy (12:28:31 AM): Exactly
spies4kip (12:28:53 AM): but, my not tell anyone who they were?
spies4kip (12:28:56 AM): why*
spies4Candy (12:29:02 AM): Because I'm not going to make others a target
spies4Candy (12:29:15 AM): In round 3 Jeremiah went around telling everyone he trusted Gordy 100%
spies4Candy (12:29:17 AM): You don't do that to someone
spies4Candy (12:29:23 AM): You trust someone, you keep it quiet
spies4kip (12:29:27 AM): but you didnt trust them 100%
spies4Candy (12:29:40 AM): I trusted them enough to pick them out of a group of people
spies4kip (12:29:51 AM): are they both still in the game?
spies4Candy (12:29:53 AM): Yes
spies4Candy (12:30:02 AM): And they have instructions from me to keep quiet
spies4kip (12:30:23 AM): alright
spies4Candy (12:30:47 AM): But I will say this
spies4Candy (12:31:27 AM): When you have someone who's kicking spy ass like I am
spies4Candy (12:31:29 AM): Spies want you out
spies4kip (12:31:43 AM): you're still here though
spies4Candy (12:32:06 AM): Yeah and you see why?
spies4Candy (12:32:10 AM): The last 2 imprisonments
spies4Candy (12:32:18 AM): 1 was Gordy who told Bev EVERYTHING about his role
spies4Candy (12:32:28 AM): He was imprisoned on the Traditionalists' turn
spies4kip (12:33:51 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:52:36 AM): anyways
spies4Candy (12:52:42 AM): Oh hey
spies4kip (12:52:51 AM): haha
spies4kip (12:53:03 AM): what you up to?
spies4Candy (12:53:04 AM): I'm rereading what you said in the burg
spies4Candy (12:53:10 AM): In the Candy/Leon ortho thread
spies4Candy (12:53:31 AM): And how you thought it was weird that I asked you to focus on finding the orthodoxy spies
spies4Candy (12:53:54 AM): Before Singe brought up the whole me/Leon thing, no one had really given them a second thought
spies4Candy (12:54:13 AM): I'm glad Singe has given the burg a jump start
spies4Candy (12:54:23 AM): And do you know what's so fucking weird about this?
spies4Candy (12:54:27 AM): This being talking to you
spies4kip (12:54:38 AM): hrm?
spies4Candy (12:54:51 AM): That because of what you said about Kip 1, I can be like 95% sure you're not a spy
spies4Candy (12:54:53 AM): But like
spies4Candy (12:54:55 AM): You have NO Idea on me
spies4kip (12:55:04 AM): i have no idea on you
spies4Candy (12:55:11 AM): So like
spies4kip (12:55:15 AM): how can you be 95% on me
spies4Candy (12:55:22 AM): Because of what you said about Kip 1
spies4Candy (12:55:26 AM): Has NOTHING to do with you
spies4Candy (12:55:31 AM): "Convo 1, convo 2"
spies4Candy (12:55:43 AM): Not telling Sam his citizen list
spies4Candy (12:55:47 AM): Idling out for being disinterested
spies4Candy (12:55:54 AM): Etc
spies4Candy (12:55:59 AM): It all fits in with you being a citizen
spies4Candy (12:56:07 AM): And I still can't talk to you because I have no idea who you're trusting
spies4Candy (12:56:11 AM): And it's driving me nuts
spies4kip (12:56:21 AM): well i can answer that
spies4kip (12:56:26 AM): im trusting no one at the moment
spies4Candy (12:56:29 AM): HAHA
spies4kip (12:56:33 AM): this game basically just started for me
spies4Candy (12:56:36 AM): Exactly
spies4kip (12:56:39 AM): whereas youve all been playing for a month
spies4kip (12:56:42 AM): i kno no one
spies4Candy (12:57:00 AM): Fine then I don't know who you've become buddy-buddy with
spies4Candy (12:57:03 AM): And I'm not asking
spies4kip (12:57:08 AM): so im the awkward '1st impression' stage
spies4Candy (12:57:10 AM): Because I don't know the 3 spies for sure, so names wouldn't even matter
spies4Candy (12:57:15 AM): Yeah and I'm trying so hard to deal with you like that
spies4Candy (12:57:21 AM): Like to not completely overwhelm you
spies4Candy (12:57:31 AM): And it's driving me nuts
spies4kip (12:57:36 AM): trust me, you couldnt overwhelming me anymore
spies4Candy (12:57:43 AM): Oh I could
spies4kip (12:57:47 AM): try
spies4Candy (12:57:51 AM): In time
spies4Candy (12:57:58 AM): But you read my critiques?
spies4kip (12:58:04 AM): the ones about you?
spies4kip (12:58:05 AM): yeah
spies4Candy (12:58:21 AM): You haven't seen me in the mode that those guys are describing
spies4kip (12:58:27 AM): well not the newest ones, but the older ones i have
spies4kip (12:58:41 AM): well i look forward to it
spies4Candy (12:58:50 AM): Oh great Sam gave us a crazy person
spies4kip (12:59:01 AM): maybe two of them
spies4Candy (12:59:07 AM): Touche
spies4kip (12:59:47 AM): ive dealt with a lot 'pushy' people
spies4kip (12:59:53 AM): my job forces me too
spies4Candy (1:00:01 AM): I forgot what "Kip" is
spies4kip (1:00:10 AM): i have no idea
spies4kip (1:00:25 AM): i wasnt acting in character
spies4Candy (1:00:33 AM): Got it
spies4kip (1:00:38 AM): sam may hate me for it
spies4Candy (1:00:43 AM): Whatever
spies4Candy (1:00:45 AM): Not like you designed it
spies4kip (1:01:05 AM): and im not going to go out of my way to tell people who i am
spies4kip (1:01:18 AM): im just a character who didnt have a bio posted
spies4Candy (1:01:18 AM): Yeah I wouldn't with this group
spies4Candy (1:01:26 AM): It's an obsession
spies4Candy (1:01:44 AM): I couldn't care less
spies4Candy (1:01:56 AM): So long as you're not playing a mute or a hog or something you can do whatever you want
spies4kip (1:02:06 AM): hrm?
spies4Candy (1:02:15 AM): Hogs can't type
spies4kip (1:02:23 AM): mute dont talk
spies4Candy (1:02:27 AM): Exactly
spies4Candy (1:03:05 AM): Besides we've already had enough mutes
spies4Candy (1:03:18 AM): What is it now, 6 people who have left the game?
spies4Candy (1:03:19 AM): 7?
spies4Candy (1:03:24 AM): Oh
spies4Candy (1:03:25 AM): 4
spies4kip (1:03:42 AM): yea
spies4kip (1:04:13 AM): anyways
spies4kip (1:04:17 AM): as for trust with me
spies4kip (1:04:27 AM): i can keep secrets
spies4Candy (1:04:32 AM): TBD
spies4kip (1:04:35 AM): you dont have to tell me anything
spies4kip (1:04:39 AM): you dont have to trust me
spies4kip (1:04:58 AM): but if you tell me something in secret i wont blab it
spies4Candy (1:05:01 AM): Well I'm not going around advertising that I think you're a citizen because I don't want a spy to imprison you
spies4kip (1:05:09 AM): thanks
spies4Candy (1:05:18 AM): And I'm not going to vote to exile you
spies4kip (1:05:31 AM): thanks
spies4Candy (1:05:37 AM): So as far as I'm concerned, you're a good person to have around and keep an eye on
spies4Candy (1:05:43 AM): I'm not going to trust someone just because they say they can be trusted
spies4Candy (1:05:54 AM): I have to decide that for myself
spies4kip (1:05:55 AM): i dont expect you too
spies4kip (1:05:59 AM): trust takes time
spies4Candy (1:06:03 AM): Yeah
spies4Candy (1:06:17 AM): But what people also forget is this game centers around communication
spies4kip (1:06:39 AM): 100%
spies4Candy (1:06:39 AM): And there's this instinct that kicks in that says "OMG I know something important so I gotta pass it on"
spies4Candy (1:06:55 AM): I am actually incredibly surprised that my 2 people kept the Bev thing quiet
spies4Candy (1:07:05 AM): I expected it to be out within 1 episode
spies4kip (1:07:31 AM): looks like you found some trustworthy people
spies4kip (1:07:34 AM): for the most part
spies4Candy (1:07:57 AM): And now that I'm a huge imprisonment and exile target do you understand why I want to keep their identities secret?
spies4kip (1:08:05 AM): yeah
spies4Candy (1:08:11 AM): I dont' care if you agree or not
spies4kip (1:08:15 AM): which is why i didnt ask their names
spies4Candy (1:08:16 AM): Just so long as you see the rationality of it
spies4kip (1:08:25 AM): well i kinda did, but didnt
spies4kip (1:08:31 AM): of course im cuious
spies4kip (1:08:33 AM): curious*
spies4Candy (1:08:48 AM): Yeah
spies4Candy (1:09:04 AM): I am by nature a very curious person
spies4Candy (1:09:08 AM): I stick my nose in everyone's business
spies4kip (1:09:45 AM): we have that in commin
spies4kip (1:09:48 AM): common*
spies4Candy (1:10:14 AM): Good
spies4Candy (1:10:23 AM): You notice that the least curious people are the worst at catching spies?
spies4Candy (1:10:38 AM): And IDing them?
spies4kip (1:10:41 AM): kinda
spies4kip (1:11:22 AM): well i hope i can follow your lead and catch some orthos
spies4Candy (1:11:28 AM): I'll beat you to it
spies4kip (1:11:45 AM): is that a challenge?
spies4Candy (1:11:58 AM): This is the kind of challenge I live for
spies4Candy (1:12:00 AM): Yeah it's a challenge
spies4kip (1:12:14 AM): we could just work together and smash everyone else
spies4Candy (1:12:33 AM): I'd be down with that
spies4Candy (1:12:58 AM): I'm also heading out
spies4kip (1:13:02 AM): my word may not always be right, but you at least know its not filled with spyish words
spies4Candy (1:13:17 AM): You have no idea how relaxing that is
spies4kip (1:13:29 AM): i can imagine
spies4Candy (1:13:36 AM): Well you don't know about me
spies4Candy (1:13:39 AM): So you probably have an idea right now
spies4kip (1:13:50 AM): lol
spies4Candy (1:13:58 AM): Catch you later
spies4kip (1:14:13 AM): unless i catch you first
spies4kip (1:14:15 AM): later
spies4Candy signed off at 1:14:21 AM.

[Kip]

Johan

spies4kip (12:08:32 AM): hey johan
spies4Johan (12:08:49 AM): Greetings, Kip, how are you??
spies4kip (12:08:58 AM): im alright
spies4kip (12:09:00 AM): yourself?
spies4Johan (12:09:21 AM): Doing well Happy that Bunni was at least not needlessly exiled tonight
spies4kip (12:09:29 AM): as am i
spies4Johan (12:10:01 AM): Yes, it is occasion of celebration, no? Of course if Bunni comes up spy at end of game we both regret this
spies4kip (12:10:09 AM): if shes a spy, well, we'll cross that bridge in 2 rounds
spies4Johan (12:10:25 AM): Yes, for the least we have time to get actual reasons to exile her first
spies4kip (12:10:58 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:14:18 AM): im not the biggest hannah fan
spies4Johan (12:15:11 AM): Nor am I, to be truthful, she is.. I am not sure, but something about ehr rubs the wrong way, yes? I am not sure that I suspect her or anything, but as far as likability goes...
spies4kip (12:15:53 AM): yea
spies4kip (12:15:58 AM): im not sure if i suspect her
spies4kip (12:16:13 AM): but her reasoning for voting bunni can be applied to her
spies4Johan (12:17:09 AM): Ah, a valid point you make. I wonder how she would take this if confronted?
spies4kip (12:17:48 AM): check the chat haha
spies4Johan (12:19:00 AM): Oh, Cain awakens for questioning? This I must see, thank you for alerting me
spies4kip (12:22:16 AM): yeah he was on earlier today when a group of us were and we had a chat
spies4kip (12:22:28 AM): where we grilled him, a lot nicer than they all grilled bunni
spies4kip (12:23:10 AM): people respond better when you're at least civil to them
spies4Johan (12:23:27 AM): Yes, they were very mean to Bunni, I am glad that you spoke up and said something, you are of course completely right, if you attack people they become defensive and talk even less
spies4Johan (12:23:45 AM): Has Cain's speech alleviated concerns of his spyhood among the Burg?
spies4kip (12:23:55 AM): not from me
spies4kip (12:24:08 AM): but its good to here his points on who he tihnks are the orthos
spies4Johan (12:24:53 AM): Yes, we more or less have the Traditionalists right now, it would be nice tog et leads on Orthos, they are still a bit of mystery
spies4kip (12:51:40 AM): what you think on the remaining orthos?
spies4Johan (12:52:36 AM): I am torn... My gut tells me that Masaki is one, to tell the complete truth, and yet I will have to gather enough reasons for that to be acted upon... As for the remaining spy, I am not really sure, there are a few people I am trying to fit into the slot
spies4Johan signed off at 1:09:58 AM.

[Kip]

Summer

spies4kip (12:06:06 AM): how goes it summer?
spies4Summer (12:07:09 AM): Hold on 1 moment Kip okay?
spies4kip (12:07:27 AM): k
spies4Summer (12:13:56 AM): All right
spies4kip (12:14:04 AM): whats up?
spies4Summer (12:15:08 AM): I'm glad my hosting gig is over!
spies4Summer (12:15:12 AM): I don't know how Sam does it all the time
spies4kip (12:15:42 AM): its gotta be brutal
spies4Summer (12:17:00 AM): Well it was fun sort of
spies4Summer (12:17:09 AM): I liked it better than I thought I would
spies4Summer (12:17:14 AM): But I'm still glad it's over
spies4kip (12:17:15 AM): cool cool
spies4kip (12:17:22 AM): it had to be fun to be powerful for a couple days too
spies4kip (12:18:47 AM): so, how would you have voted if it tied?
spies4Summer (12:19:21 AM): I just told Masaki I'm not sure
spies4Summer (12:19:33 AM): It depends on who voted for her ...
spies4kip (12:19:41 AM): really?
spies4Summer (12:20:02 AM): Yes
spies4kip (12:20:05 AM): please explain?
spies4Summer (12:20:11 AM): Well there are some people I trust and some I don't
spies4Summer (12:20:19 AM): I'd vote with the people I trust
spies4kip (12:20:24 AM): oh
spies4Summer (12:20:53 AM): I'm more disappointed about Madison
spies4kip (12:20:54 AM): i guess its no use asking who this group is
spies4Summer (12:20:58 AM): Well Madison was in it
spies4kip (12:21:02 AM): and yeah, that is disappointing
spies4kip (12:21:16 AM): especially when sam said she was one of his good good friends
spies4Summer (12:22:04 AM): I realized she was a citizen after I looked at the round 2 votes
spies4Summer (12:22:10 AM): I think Masaki and Cain have been repeating my points on this
spies4Summer (12:22:25 AM): Anyway, I talked to her in exile 5 and we agreed to vote Beverly
spies4Summer (12:22:30 AM): And then again for Naomi's exile
spies4Summer (12:23:43 AM): Cain is talking about how he thinks Candy is an orthodoxy spy
spies4kip (12:24:24 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:24:42 AM): what you think on that?
spies4Summer (12:25:12 AM): I think that in a game where no one knows the truth, there should be a lot of speculation
spies4Summer (12:25:15 AM): I think all angles should be considered
spies4kip (12:27:39 AM): alright
spies4kip (12:27:45 AM): cuz from what he says, it kinda fits
spies4Summer (12:30:33 AM): Do you really thnk so?
spies4kip (12:30:38 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:30:44 AM): when i think about it
spies4kip (12:31:00 AM): candy had the info on bev
spies4kip (12:31:05 AM): but she didnt tell the burg
spies4kip (12:31:20 AM): she claims to have told two people, but no one is coming forward, and shes not saying who they were
spies4kip (12:31:27 AM): and she says they're both still in
spies4Summer (12:31:36 AM): I wouldn't if she had told me
spies4Summer (12:31:43 AM): It's suicide
spies4Summer (12:31:46 AM): The spies are after her
spies4Summer (12:31:50 AM): They'll pick off her allies too
spies4kip (12:31:55 AM): yet shes still here
spies4kip (12:32:01 AM): anyways
spies4kip (12:32:06 AM): ok she told two people
spies4kip (12:32:42 AM): what if the two she told were orthos? and shes lying that they're both alive still?
spies4kip (12:32:53 AM): maybe she told no one...
spies4kip (12:32:58 AM): and she just claims to have
spies4Summer (12:33:09 AM): It could go either way
spies4kip (12:33:15 AM): either way, lets say shes an orthos
spies4Summer (12:33:15 AM): But look at how she reasons, Kip
spies4Summer (12:33:20 AM): Look at how she's made a case against Cain
spies4kip (12:33:25 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (12:33:26 AM): It's based on fact
spies4Summer (12:33:29 AM): Not insanity like Adelaide
spies4Summer (12:33:33 AM): Not insults
spies4Summer (12:33:36 AM): Not gut feelings
spies4kip (12:33:41 AM): she insults him a lot
spies4Summer (12:33:50 AM): She insults everyone.
spies4Summer (12:33:55 AM): Someone who can reason like that though?
spies4kip (12:34:08 AM): strong spy or cit
spies4Summer (12:34:16 AM): Leave it to the imprisonments to figure that out
spies4kip (12:34:31 AM): but if cains the last trad
spies4Summer (12:34:31 AM): That's the advantage of having 2 spy groups
spies4kip (12:34:38 AM): she wont be imprisoned if shes a spy
spies4Summer (12:34:44 AM): So why not exile Cain and find out what he is?
spies4Summer (12:34:51 AM): If he's a spy, we win
spies4Summer (12:34:53 AM): If he's a citizen, Candy goes
spies4kip (12:34:54 AM): thats what im gonna do though
spies4Summer (12:34:56 AM): And we find out what she was
spies4kip (12:35:02 AM): yeah i agree
spies4kip (12:35:07 AM): but hear me out here
spies4Summer (12:35:10 AM): Okay
spies4kip (12:35:55 AM): assume shes an ortho, of course shes gonna make a case against trads, and why keep the investigation secret? well angelica just got outed when she got it and she clamined naomi was
spies4kip (12:36:10 AM): now if shes with angelica, she'll want naomi to go, and she did push for it
spies4kip (12:36:27 AM): but when it looked like naomi may not go, she comes out with the bev info
spies4kip (12:36:42 AM): if she did get exiled or imprisoned, it wouldnt hurt her
spies4Summer (12:36:45 AM): Do you realize how easy it was to exile Naomi?
spies4kip (12:36:53 AM): cuz her friends would have the information
spies4kip (12:36:58 AM): yeah, i do realize
spies4Summer (12:37:18 AM): Candy came out with her Beverly suspicion when Abrams was being accused
spies4Summer (12:37:28 AM): However, Abrams was heavily suspected by Angelica
spies4Summer (12:37:32 AM): It's all over my conversations with her
spies4kip (12:37:37 AM): ok i had that mixed up then
spies4kip (12:37:52 AM): anyway, if shes an ortho, why out bev in public
spies4kip (12:37:56 AM): when angelica outed naomi
spies4Summer (12:38:00 AM): That's the point, isn't it?
spies4kip (12:38:07 AM): why not just imprison bev
spies4kip (12:38:12 AM): and let the burg get naomi
spies4kip (12:38:18 AM): well if you let the burg do both
spies4kip (12:38:27 AM): you get an extra crack at imprisonment
spies4Summer (12:38:27 AM): Kip I see what you're saying
spies4Summer (12:38:32 AM): But there's one big flaw with that
spies4kip (12:38:42 AM): and if the burg doesnt buy it, well you can always go back to it
spies4kip (12:39:06 AM): and the flaw?
spies4Summer (12:39:11 AM): Going public.
spies4Summer (12:39:14 AM): Think about this
spies4kip (12:39:18 AM): makes her a target
spies4Summer (12:39:19 AM): You're an orthodoxy spy
spies4Summer (12:39:29 AM): You know Beverly must be a traditionalist spy
spies4Summer (12:39:35 AM): Why go public with it when right after ...
spies4Summer (12:39:41 AM): It's the orthodoxy's turn to imprison?
spies4kip (12:39:53 AM): to get an extra imprisonment
spies4kip (12:39:55 AM): and!
spies4kip (12:39:58 AM): outing bev
spies4kip (12:40:01 AM): and getting bev out
spies4Summer (12:40:03 AM): Sorry
spies4Summer (12:40:03 AM): Sorry
spies4kip (12:40:05 AM): makes her look so good
spies4Summer (12:40:05 AM): I misworded that
spies4Summer (12:40:11 AM): It was the traditionalist's turn to imprison
spies4Summer (12:40:15 AM): Exile 5 was Beverly
spies4Summer (12:40:22 AM): Imprisonment 6 was the traditionalists
spies4Summer (12:40:56 AM): Really bad timing for an Orthodoxy spy to stick their neck out
spies4kip (12:41:28 AM): wasnt gordy telling bev his role public knowledge?
spies4Summer (12:41:38 AM): No
spies4Summer (12:41:59 AM): At the time I was fairly confused on why Gordy was defending Beverly
spies4Summer (12:42:47 AM): It seems far too risky of a move for a group that's down to 2 members
spies4kip (12:43:09 AM): well anyway, i realize everything i said is circumstancal, but my main concern is that i dont want candy to be basically set if cain is a trad
spies4Summer (12:43:18 AM): No one should be set
spies4kip (12:43:30 AM): becauase if she is an ortho, then she'll never be imped
spies4kip (12:43:43 AM): well you did say earlier that if cain goes
spies4kip (12:43:46 AM): then candy was right
spies4Summer (12:43:48 AM): Yes
spies4Summer (12:43:49 AM): And
spies4Summer (12:43:56 AM): She'll be imprisoned if she's not an orthodoxy spy
spies4kip (12:44:23 AM): so if cain goes and candy is neve imp'd you wanna just vote for her? cuz its odd?
spies4Summer (12:44:47 AM): Depends on how much orthodoxy spy butt she kicks
spies4Summer (12:44:50 AM): If anyone can kick it, it's her
spies4kip (12:44:56 AM): unless shes one
spies4Summer (12:45:01 AM): So let's see what she does
spies4kip (12:45:15 AM): just dont be blind to her
spies4Summer (12:45:20 AM): I'm not blind to anyone, I think
spies4Summer (12:45:29 AM): Not Singe, not Candy, no one
spies4kip (12:45:39 AM): lots of people appear to be blinded by candy and singe
spies4kip (12:45:43 AM): from what i see
spies4kip (12:45:49 AM): not to say you are
spies4Summer (12:46:08 AM): I'm just very very reluctant to take action against a strong player when there are very obvious spy suspects right in front of us
spies4kip (12:46:16 AM): i was actually kind of shocked to see singe post something like that in te burg about himself, and how people just seem to take his word on stuff
spies4Summer (12:46:25 AM): Mmm
spies4Summer (12:46:29 AM): That's Singe for you I guess
spies4kip (12:46:53 AM): i dunno, im just trying to think outside the box
spies4kip (12:47:05 AM): and yeah, right now we have cain to fry
spies4kip (12:47:17 AM): im just listening to everything he says
spies4Summer (12:47:21 AM): He's not saying much
spies4kip (12:47:37 AM): do you blame him?
spies4kip (12:47:58 AM): half the burg doesnt listen to him, and the rest shit on him
spies4kip (12:48:03 AM): not everyone though
spies4Summer (12:48:05 AM): It's cumulative
spies4Summer (12:48:14 AM): These accusations against him are several rounds old
spies4Summer (12:48:19 AM): He didn't speak up then
spies4kip (12:48:23 AM): and now he is
spies4Summer (12:48:40 AM): Well yes, he has the orthodoxy imprisonment ahead, as well as his upcoming exile
spies4kip (12:48:46 AM): remember when i said he'd start poking his head in if he was the last trad spy?
spies4Summer (12:48:50 AM): I do remember that
spies4Summer (12:48:53 AM): I've thought about it often
spies4kip (12:49:34 AM): anyway, i remember you grouping masaki in with the remaining trads last time we spoke
spies4kip (12:49:40 AM): cuz of hi svoting
spies4Summer (12:49:49 AM): Masaki is an interesting guy
spies4kip (12:49:53 AM): remaining trad suspects*
spies4Summer (12:49:59 AM): He'd make a better spy than he would a citizen, in my opinion
spies4kip (12:50:03 AM): i tihnk we agreed it was cain or him
spies4Summer (12:50:08 AM): He's good at subtle moves
spies4kip (12:50:19 AM): anyway, where you stand on him if cain is the trad
spies4kip (12:50:25 AM): ortho possibilities?
spies4Summer (12:50:34 AM): Anything's a possibility
spies4Summer (12:50:43 AM): The other thing that keeps sticking in my brain is how sure he was on his Naomi vote
spies4Summer (12:51:04 AM): The votes came down to Beverly for everyone but him
spies4Summer (12:51:09 AM): Either you believed Beverly or you didn't
spies4Summer (12:51:19 AM): Like Faizah, Gordy, Bunni, me, etc.
spies4Summer (12:51:32 AM): He was the only one that voted Naomi just because he was more sure on Naomi
spies4Summer (12:51:40 AM): It wasn't a Bev issue for him
spies4kip (12:51:57 AM): really
spies4Summer (12:52:19 AM): As far as I know, yes
spies4Summer (12:52:37 AM): The only people who should have been concentrating on Naomi for Naomi's sake were the 2 spy groups
spies4kip (12:55:45 AM): i can see that
spies4kip (1:14:47 AM): interesting conversation with candy...
spies4Summer (1:14:54 AM): Do tell
spies4kip (1:15:05 AM): shes 95% certain im a cit
spies4kip (1:15:08 AM): if thats possible
spies4Summer (1:15:12 AM): Already?
spies4kip (1:15:32 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:15:39 AM): cuz of what i told her about the old kip
spies4kip (1:15:45 AM): from his confessional
spies4Summer (1:16:03 AM): What, long confessionals detailing his spy suspicions?
spies4kip (1:16:08 AM): no
spies4kip (1:16:14 AM): nothing in there
spies4kip (1:16:17 AM): really
spies4Summer (1:16:21 AM): Come on
spies4kip (1:16:29 AM): im serious
spies4Summer (1:16:34 AM): Adelaide kept defending Kip
spies4Summer (1:16:41 AM): "He's a mafiascum player, they post, not chat"
spies4kip (1:16:50 AM): apparently he was in a in a game with sam, so he refused to post why he cleared people as cits
spies4Summer (1:16:50 AM): Surely he had something good in there
spies4kip (1:16:56 AM): so sam wouldnt kno how he though
spies4Summer (1:17:01 AM): What ....?
spies4kip (1:17:07 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:17:28 AM): Funny
spies4Summer (1:17:36 AM): I expected long extensive analysis on our every post
spies4Summer (1:17:40 AM): Then again
spies4kip (1:17:42 AM): " Eh? There isn't much to write... I think for me, it is kinda obvious Gordy, Ralph and Summers are the Orthodoxy... I already have the list for the people I think I am sure are citizens.

I suppose I could write the process by which I come to conclusions... but I'm not doing that since you are playing a game with me on MafiaScum at the moment."
spies4Summer (1:17:46 AM): He idled out ...
spies4Summer (1:18:05 AM): Wow
spies4kip (1:18:12 AM): you ralph and gordy
spies4Summer (1:18:14 AM): He had bad instincts on the Orthodoxy
spies4kip (1:18:35 AM): he was mainly on gordy
spies4Summer (1:18:58 AM): So if you're not making this up
spies4Summer (1:19:03 AM): Yes it would pretty much indicate you're a citizen
spies4Summer (1:19:08 AM): Otherwise, you're very very good
spies4Summer (1:19:26 AM): He told me he was from another timezone and his timestamps showed it was around Asia
spies4Summer (1:19:46 AM): What you just pasted is indicative of his location, with the weird grammar
spies4Summer (1:20:03 AM): Which makes it less likely that you wrote it yourself
spies4kip (1:20:25 AM): well i didnt
spies4Summer (1:20:34 AM): By Asia I mean around Japan/the Philippines
spies4Summer (1:20:42 AM): It was like 12 hours ahead or something ... can't remember now ...
spies4kip (1:20:48 AM): ah
spies4kip (1:21:24 AM): im not exactly sure on that
spies4Summer (1:21:40 AM): I'm trying to find it now
spies4Summer (1:21:44 AM): Not Asia
spies4Summer (1:21:47 AM): I know where that is, thank you
spies4kip (1:21:58 AM): ><
spies4Summer (1:22:50 AM): Are you telling everyone this?
spies4Summer (1:22:55 AM): Because spies do imprison confirmed citizens
spies4kip (1:23:10 AM): im not
spies4kip (1:23:18 AM): ive only told candy and now you
spies4kip (1:23:28 AM): candy says its her secret
spies4kip (1:23:36 AM): and id hope you'd do the same
spies4kip (1:23:54 AM): i also wont tell others
spies4Summer (1:23:57 AM): I promise I will keep it a secret.
spies4kip (1:24:37 AM): lets just hope neither of you are spies and imprison me
spies4Summer (1:24:45 AM): spies4kip (12:00:33 AM): I am not stating my timezone because it would make it easy for people to find who I am

spies4kip (1:24:54 AM): oh
spies4Summer (1:25:11 AM): spies4kip (12:20:55 AM): (9:29:26 AM) spies4Gordy: Well who else was I to vote for?
(9:29:31 AM) Kip: Me?
spies4Summer (1:25:17 AM): spies4Summer (12:21:19 AM): Watch the timezone thing.

spies4kip (1:25:21 AM): kip did post who masaki is
spies4Summer (1:25:26 AM): spies4kip (12:21:24 AM): meh
spies4kip (12:21:27 AM): my bad
spies4kip (12:21:32 AM): I tried to eraze the tags...

spies4kip (1:25:27 AM): since they knew each other
spies4Summer (1:25:38 AM): spies4kip (12:21:55 AM): Guess if you snoop into Mafiascum enough, you would know who I am
spies4kip (12:22:08 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:25:51 AM): Masaki's a mafiascum player too then?
spies4kip (1:26:03 AM): masaki knew his icon before he changed it to kips picture

[Kip]

Summer Cont.

spies4Summer (1:26:09 AM): Oh clever
spies4Summer (1:26:15 AM): Well I'm not a mafiascum person
spies4kip (1:26:19 AM): singe also knows masakis ID
spies4kip (1:26:23 AM): cuz kip PMed him
spies4Summer (1:26:23 AM): And neither have received accusation votes
spies4kip (1:26:32 AM): that was the 1st thing i checked
spies4kip (1:26:36 AM): his sent PMs
spies4Summer (1:26:55 AM): Oh man he just told someone Masaki's identity for no reason?
spies4Summer (1:27:01 AM): Kip did trust Singe though
spies4kip (1:27:09 AM): yeah he did
spies4kip (1:27:18 AM): singe tried to talk him out of idling a few times over PM
spies4Summer (1:27:30 AM): Which doesn't sound spylike at all, actually
spies4Summer (1:27:45 AM): A player who idles out is removed from the game, like Madison
spies4Summer (1:27:49 AM): That's one less citizen for the spies to defeat
spies4kip (1:27:50 AM): but yeah, so singe knows masaki's ID, and currently he doesnt kno i kno
spies4kip (1:28:10 AM): and i told you how i feel on accusations
spies4kip (1:28:16 AM): so i wont ever accuse masaki
spies4Summer (1:28:17 AM): Right - that only spies use them
spies4Summer (1:28:25 AM): And Singe hasn't accused Masaki
spies4kip (1:28:29 AM): not yet anyway
spies4Summer (1:28:31 AM): Right
spies4kip (1:28:48 AM): so i guess thats a plus, but then again, theres never been a need to accuse masaki
spies4Summer (1:29:00 AM): Right
spies4Summer (1:29:09 AM): No one's tried to bring votes against him yet
spies4Summer (1:29:28 AM): There wouldn't be a point in accusing him in the past
spies4kip (1:29:42 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:29:56 AM): Oh did you want to know who Kip 1 trusted?
spies4Summer (1:30:00 AM): I do have this in the one conversationw e had
spies4kip (1:30:06 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:30:10 AM): In case it clears up his confessionals for you
spies4Summer (1:30:14 AM): I won't be telling this to anyone else
spies4Summer (1:30:21 AM): spies4kip (12:06:50 AM): I am sure the following are citizens:

spies4kip (1:30:22 AM): ok
spies4Summer (1:30:27 AM): spies4kip (12:06:54 AM): 1) Singe

spies4kip (1:30:31 AM): naomi and bev
spies4Summer (1:30:33 AM): spies4kip (12:06:57 AM): 2) Hannah
spies4kip (1:30:35 AM): were on his list
spies4Summer (1:30:38 AM): spies4kip (12:07:05 AM): 3) Beverly
spies4Summer (1:30:45 AM): spies4kip (12:07:28 AM): 4) Lloyd
spies4kip (1:30:53 AM): lloyd
spies4Summer (1:30:55 AM): spies4kip (12:08:05 AM): Adelaide
spies4kip (1:31:00 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:31:00 AM): spies4kip (12:08:11 AM): Naomi
spies4Summer (1:31:09 AM): spies4kip (12:08:37 AM): Adelaide and Naomi are 5 and 6 in it
spies4kip (1:31:24 AM): this list went singe, ade, naomi, hannah, bev, lloyd
spies4Summer (1:31:35 AM): Same people, different order
spies4kip (1:31:35 AM): this was ep2 he posted this tohugh
spies4Summer (1:31:37 AM): I have his reasons too
spies4Summer (1:31:43 AM): Right, episode 2
spies4kip (1:31:48 AM): he didnt provide reasons here
spies4kip (1:31:50 AM): just names
spies4Summer (1:31:54 AM): Did he post the conversation we had?
spies4kip (1:32:00 AM): strongly suspicious of candy and masaki
spies4kip (1:32:09 AM): spies = abrams, ralph, gordy
spies4kip (1:32:12 AM): you were added ep3
spies4kip (1:32:22 AM): no he didnt post that convo
spies4kip (1:32:28 AM): he had one wit bev and one with masaki
spies4kip (1:32:30 AM): that was it
spies4kip (1:32:33 AM): for ep2
spies4Summer (1:32:45 AM): Let's see
spies4Summer (1:32:53 AM): He said Singe because Singe hunts spies actively
spies4kip (1:32:57 AM): ive read this bev convo like 5 times lol
spies4Summer (1:33:04 AM): And he gets cit vibes
spies4Summer (1:33:11 AM): Beverly ... had good conversations ....
spies4Summer (1:33:14 AM): Especially in round 5
spies4Summer (1:33:16 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (1:33:22 AM): he basically told her how to be a bette rspy
spies4kip (1:33:25 AM): cuz he trusted her lol
spies4Summer (1:33:30 AM): Oh my gosh
spies4Summer (1:33:33 AM): That is too funny
spies4kip (1:33:39 AM): though i doubt she needed the help
spies4Summer (1:34:02 AM): Honestly, if it hadn't been for Candy and her manic way of getting votes, Beverly never would have left
spies4Summer (1:34:17 AM): A vote can't be that close without awesome spy power
spies4kip (1:34:37 AM): eyah
spies4Summer (1:34:59 AM): I didn't like why he trusted Hannah
spies4Summer (1:35:04 AM): I scolded him on the reason he gave me
spies4Summer (1:35:12 AM): Which he didn't like!
spies4kip (1:35:17 AM): what was it?
spies4Summer (1:35:30 AM): When it came time to sign up for families, Kip was supposed to sign up with Hannah
spies4Summer (1:35:41 AM): Instead he ditched them and signed up in a different forum
spies4kip (1:35:46 AM): and ppl thought he was a spy cuz he backed out
spies4Summer (1:35:50 AM): Hannah said it was something a spy would do
spies4Summer (1:35:57 AM): Then they talked and she changed her mind
spies4kip (1:36:05 AM): yeah she posted that in the burg
spies4Summer (1:36:06 AM): spies4kip (12:15:37 AM): She actually got rationalised
spies4Summer (1:36:10 AM): spies4kip (12:15:43 AM): And refused to be stubborn and vote me
spies4kip (1:36:18 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:36:21 AM): spies4Summer (12:15:54 AM): Spies can be rational, especially when they know the person they're talking to isn't on their side
spies4Summer (1:36:49 AM): I said to him that Hannah got bonus points with him just for agreeing not to exile him
spies4Summer (1:37:04 AM): And that the mindset of a spy is to try and get points wherever you can
spies4Summer (1:37:21 AM): Unless you're Emma or Cain I guess
spies4kip (1:38:04 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:38:11 AM): i remember asking sam if i could replace emma
spies4kip (1:38:15 AM): when she was in danger of idling out
spies4Summer (1:38:47 AM): Oh my gosh
spies4Summer (1:38:52 AM): You almost inherited a spy role
spies4kip (1:38:56 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:38:56 AM): What did he say?
spies4kip (1:38:58 AM): nothing
spies4kip (1:39:07 AM): i left him a message during kiyoshi
spies4kip (1:39:11 AM): cuz he said he may need one
spies4kip (1:39:14 AM): but i was really busy
spies4Summer (1:39:14 AM): Someone loves this game
spies4Summer (1:39:19 AM): Oh
spies4kip (1:39:23 AM): i wanted to apply
spies4kip (1:39:26 AM): but i was really really busy
spies4kip (1:39:28 AM): so i couldnt
spies4kip (1:39:35 AM): but my schedule cleared
spies4Summer (1:39:42 AM): I almost didn't apply because I'm so busy with school
spies4kip (1:39:48 AM): and i saw emma was gonna bite it so i left him a message
spies4kip (1:39:51 AM): but he never got back to me
spies4Summer (1:39:57 AM): You wanted to be a girl
spies4Summer (1:40:03 AM): Well for all Iknow you are a girl
spies4kip (1:40:08 AM): then he IMed me a few weeks back if i was still interested
spies4Summer (1:40:21 AM): And voila
spies4kip (1:40:27 AM): enter kip
spies4Summer (1:40:50 AM): You might have made a nice girl
spies4Summer (1:40:52 AM): She was a ...
spies4Summer (1:40:56 AM): What was the term Zander used
spies4Summer (1:41:05 AM): She was reminiscent of a slightly catatonic child
spies4kip (1:41:09 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:41:16 AM): Literally all she ever said was hi im emma lol
spies4kip (1:41:24 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:41:31 AM): maybe she didnt wanna be a spy
spies4Summer (1:42:28 AM): That would make 4 people who didn't want that
spies4Summer (1:42:39 AM): Can you imagine?
spies4kip (1:42:59 AM): who didnt want it?
spies4Summer (1:43:07 AM): Beverly ... Naomi ... (Cain?)
spies4kip (1:43:16 AM): didnt want to be spies?
spies4Summer (1:43:20 AM): Didn't want Emma to be a spy
spies4kip (1:43:22 AM): or her as a spy
spies4kip (1:43:24 AM): oh haha
spies4Summer (1:43:40 AM): Imagine finding out you only get to imprison every other turn
spies4Summer (1:43:47 AM): You can get imprisoned
spies4kip (1:43:51 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:43:59 AM): And now you have to waste your turn imprisoning the one person in your group no one suspects
spies4kip (1:44:07 AM): trads did lise
spies4kip (1:44:08 AM): emma
spies4kip (1:44:12 AM): and now?
spies4Summer (1:44:17 AM): Gordy
spies4kip (1:44:21 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:44:29 AM): But I don't feel like they've played as strong of a game as the Orthodoxy
spies4kip (1:44:31 AM): orthos got lloyd
spies4kip (1:44:37 AM): only lloyd
spies4Summer (1:44:42 AM): True
spies4kip (1:44:47 AM): sucks for them
spies4kip (1:44:52 AM): but they also got naomi i guess
spies4Summer (1:44:55 AM): Don't feel sorry for them
spies4kip (1:44:57 AM): AND they're winning
spies4Summer (1:45:00 AM): Yes they are
spies4kip (1:45:04 AM): well the winning spies anyway
spies4kip (1:46:00 AM): i cant wait to see naomis face show up with the big SPY on it
spies4Summer (1:46:06 AM): I know!
spies4kip (1:46:14 AM): and cains
spies4Summer (1:46:15 AM): Sam put her with bars over it
spies4Summer (1:46:21 AM): I hope he remembers to change it
spies4kip (1:46:31 AM): who?
spies4Summer (1:46:40 AM): Naomi, in the exile VI thread
spies4kip (1:46:44 AM): oh really?
spies4Summer (1:46:44 AM): It's in the exile forum
spies4kip (1:46:48 AM): prolly a slip
spies4Summer (1:46:51 AM): Yes
spies4Summer (1:46:59 AM): But it will be very satisfying
spies4Summer (1:47:07 AM): Don't get me wrong, I liked her
spies4Summer (1:47:13 AM): I thought she tried hard and had a good attitude
spies4Summer (1:47:22 AM): But she was a spy
spies4Summer (1:47:37 AM): She started going nuts at her exile
spies4kip (1:47:41 AM): damn dirty ape... err spy
spies4Summer (1:47:49 AM): I told her to go out well and people would think better of her for it
spies4Summer (1:47:57 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (1:47:58 AM): I love that movie
spies4kip (1:48:05 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:48:16 AM): I expected it to be so corny but it was actually very enjoyable
spies4kip (1:49:12 AM): ill have to reread it
spies4Summer (1:49:33 AM): What?
spies4kip (1:50:46 AM): naomis blow up at exile
spies4Summer (1:50:58 AM): Oh it wasn't dramatic
spies4Summer (1:51:01 AM): Just her being like
spies4Summer (1:51:08 AM): Sam: Vote 1: Naomi, by Mistaki
spies4Summer (1:51:11 AM): Masaki
spies4Summer (1:51:18 AM): Naomi: Thank you!!!!!
spies4Summer (1:51:25 AM): Sam: Vote 2: Naomi, by Summer
spies4Summer (1:51:30 AM): Naomi: I FUCKING LOVE YOU TOO!!!!
spies4Summer (1:51:51 AM): Silly stuff
spies4Summer (1:51:59 AM): But you watch some people exit and wow
spies4Summer (1:52:03 AM): It's memorable
spies4kip (1:52:06 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:52:08 AM): Ralph was very, very classy
spies4Summer (1:52:19 AM): He accepted it and was calm about it and thanked Sam
spies4Summer (1:52:29 AM): He earned a lot of respect from me in that moment
spies4Summer (1:52:41 AM): Martha went around yelling her identity
spies4Summer (1:52:44 AM): Jeremiah blew up
spies4Summer (1:52:51 AM): This stuff stays with you
spies4kip (1:53:51 AM): yeah i heard martha told ppl who she was
spies4Summer (1:54:08 AM): Sam later said it was the most immature exit he's ever seen
spies4kip (1:55:34 AM): it is
spies4kip (1:55:41 AM): why would it matter who you are?
spies4kip (1:55:53 AM): its a game, and we're all adults... well most, act like it
spies4Summer (1:56:12 AM): I'm guessing Martha wanted to brag about her reputation
spies4Summer (1:56:22 AM): That it was a pride issue
spies4Summer (1:56:40 AM): Also to make people value her posts more
spies4Summer (1:56:53 AM): And mention her real identity in connection with "Wow, I just exiled ___"
spies4kip (1:57:36 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:57:45 AM): not like she was never exiled in past games
spies4Summer (1:57:58 AM): I would have no idea
spies4Summer (1:58:08 AM): I forgot the name as soon as I heard it
spies4kip (1:58:14 AM): lol
spies4Summer (1:58:40 AM): I'm sure there are players who are dedicated to the series and know every last detail down to what color hat someone was wearing to exile 4 of game 2
spies4Summer (1:58:51 AM): I'm just trying to make it through my first game
spies4kip (1:59:36 AM): ill look later haha
spies4Summer (2:13:57 AM): I have to go
spies4Summer (2:14:00 AM): Good night Kip
spies4kip (2:14:08 AM): night
spies4Summer signed off at 2:14:31 AM.

[Kip]

Couple of interesting developments tonight. But let's start with the obvious...

Bunni is now Immune for two COMPLETE rounds. That includes Exile and Imprisonment. Good for her. Do I think she's a Spy? No. Could she be? Very easily. We'll just have to wait and see. The main factor in my vote is that I have no intention of voting for her anytime soon, unless she's investigated or something. The fact of the matter is Cain is my next vote, and currently, Candy is my second vote. So Bunni being Immune has no effect on my game right now.

Secondly, I got into it with Hannah a bit. Firstly, I was kind of pissed at how everyone was treating Bunni during the Trial. Earlier today we had a chat with Cain, and we grilled him how they grilled Bunni tonight, except we were civil, and Cain was willing to communicate. I don't blame Bunni for being a little closed mouthed. People are always more willing to chat if you're nicer to them. So anyway, after the vote Hannah started going off on how Bunni contributes nothing, but I haven't really seen much from Hannah in recent days, so it's kind of hypocritical for her to blow up like that. Kind of like how Zander asked Bunni for three things she's done, when I can't even name three he's done. Well, after hearing Hannah say these things I said a few things of my own. Whatever, Hannah has always been a target of mine from back when I was viewing, but she dropped. Well, now she's on the rise again.

Thirdly, Candy told me she's 95% confirmed that I'm a Citizen. Well, this is good and bad. Bad if she's a Spy, because I'll go if I'm a confirmed Citizen in her mind. Good, if she's a Citizen, because she'll have reason to 'trust' me easier. Anyways, she says she thinks I'm a Citizen because of what I told her about Old Kip, based on his Confessionals. It makes sense, which was basically my plan in the start. I guess it worked, but I can't just tell Candy, so I also told Summer. Now two people know, and if I do get Imprisoned, well, one of them is most likely a Spy, and they can target the other if it comes to that.

I also told Summer that I knew who Masaki was. I didn't tell her who he was, just that I knew his identity. I also found out that Singe knew by checking Kip's old PM's he sent. In one he told Singe who Masaki was. Good news, kinda of. Singe has yet to accuse Masaki, which is good, and if Masaki does start getting accusation votes, they most likely came from Singe.

[Kip]

Candy

spies4Candy (10:44:05 PM): Kip if you get back I want to talk
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spies4Candy returned at 12:39:12 AM.
spies4kip (1:13:10 AM): hi
spies4Candy (1:13:32 AM): Excellent
spies4Candy (1:13:33 AM): Kip
spies4kip (1:13:40 AM): yes?
spies4Candy (1:14:01 AM): At this point I forgot what I desperately needed to ask you
spies4Candy (1:14:04 AM): But I do know there was something
spies4kip (1:14:13 AM): oh
spies4Candy (1:14:35 AM): Kip yes
spies4Candy (1:14:37 AM): All right
spies4kip (1:15:49 AM): kk
spies4Candy (1:17:02 AM): So I'm really worried about imprisonment
spies4Candy (1:17:16 AM): Right now I've got this group of peole I trust for various reasons
spies4Candy (1:17:25 AM): None of them know about each other
spies4Candy (1:17:43 AM): Because of what you had to say about Kip 1, you're in that group
spies4Candy (1:17:54 AM): I'm worried that if I leave, you guys won't have someone to subtly unite you
spies4Candy (1:18:20 AM): One of you is also a fairly large exile target
spies4kip (1:18:29 AM): i see
spies4Candy (1:18:51 AM): I'm trying to concoct some sort of plan to bring you guys together in case I do get imprisoned
spies4kip (1:19:00 AM): ok
spies4Candy (1:19:01 AM): Because it's a large enough voting block that you'd be sure to hit the spies
spies4Candy (1:19:09 AM): But I also dont' want to blow anyone's cover in case I'm not impriosned
spies4kip (1:19:34 AM): yea
spies4Candy (1:20:30 AM): I have a big spy suspect right now I'm compiling evidence towards
spies4Candy (1:20:40 AM): I am toying with the idea of PMing each of my trusted people a small chunk of it
spies4Candy (1:20:45 AM): With instructions that if I get imprisoned, that gets posted
spies4Candy (1:20:55 AM): That way you guys know who to look for
spies4Candy (1:21:02 AM): And my reasoning for this orthodoxy spy gets out
spies4Candy (1:21:13 AM): But there's probably a big flaw here
spies4kip (1:21:45 AM): if one of them isnt who you think or something
spies4Candy (1:22:06 AM): Mmmm yeah there's always that chance
spies4Candy (1:22:19 AM): I'm trying to be careful about this
spies4Candy (1:22:36 AM): Here's one big thing though
spies4Candy (1:22:47 AM): 2 of my trusted people are known to the last traditionalist
spies4kip (1:23:00 AM): i see
spies4Candy (1:23:01 AM): Their days are numbered
spies4Candy (1:23:17 AM): The traditionalist is going to look to see who those 2 are talking to
spies4kip (1:23:29 AM): well
spies4kip (1:23:36 AM): cains the last trad right?
spies4kip (1:23:47 AM): he wont get an imprison if he goes next
spies4Candy (1:23:51 AM): That's one big reason why Cain has to be exiled next - so we can figure that out
spies4Candy (1:24:00 AM): If Cain isn't the traditionalist spy, we need to know ASAP
spies4kip (1:24:04 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:24:30 AM): which was partly why i voted him last round and not naomi
spies4Candy (1:24:36 AM): Well you also couldn't actually vote Naomi
spies4kip (1:24:42 AM): and because i didnt know naomi got the vote since i wasnt here and i couldnt anyway
spies4Candy (1:24:51 AM): Yeah
spies4Candy (1:25:00 AM): Heads up though
spies4Candy (1:25:05 AM): Some people are for keeping Cain
spies4Candy (1:25:07 AM): NOT exiling him
spies4Candy (1:25:19 AM): Trying to sic him on the 2 orthodoxy spies
spies4kip (1:25:33 AM): while he takes some of us out
spies4kip (1:25:38 AM): and then if hes not the trad
spies4kip (1:25:41 AM): we're blind to it
spies4kip (1:25:47 AM): cuz everyone thinks its cain
spies4kip (1:25:51 AM): bad bad bad idea to keep him
spies4kip (1:26:41 AM): brb quickly
spies4kip (1:27:40 AM): ok back
spies4Candy (1:27:45 AM): Hey again
spies4Candy (1:27:54 AM): I agree it's a bad idea to keep Cain
spies4Candy (1:28:11 AM): The stakes are so high this time
spies4Candy (1:28:21 AM): I'm so afraid that I've built the case up against the wrong person
spies4Candy (1:28:35 AM): I need to get the last traditionalist out before they go after 2 of my trusted people
spies4Candy (1:28:39 AM): This stays silent, by the way
spies4Candy (1:28:49 AM): It's possible the orthodoxy spies don't know these 2 are safe
spies4Candy (1:28:52 AM): And I want to keep it that way
spies4kip (1:29:06 AM): ill keep it quiet
spies4Candy (1:29:07 AM): Thanks
spies4kip (1:29:55 AM): im not gonna lie here, itd he great to kno who these two are, cuz then id be able to take their word more seriously
spies4Candy (1:30:06 AM): That's the problem I'm facing now
spies4Candy (1:30:11 AM): There are several trusted people I'm sitting on
spies4Candy (1:30:17 AM): Do I tell them you're safe?
spies4Candy (1:30:20 AM): Do I tell you they're safe?
spies4kip (1:30:34 AM): thats tough
spies4Candy (1:30:33 AM): So long as I'm here this isn't a problem
spies4kip (1:30:47 AM): you need to let one person kno in case you go
spies4Candy (1:30:54 AM): Ughhh
spies4Candy (1:30:56 AM): Yeah
spies4Candy (1:31:05 AM): Probably the person I have the most solid reason on
spies4kip (1:31:07 AM): dont spread the info out, cuz if it never gets put together its all for naught
spies4kip (1:31:26 AM): and make sure its someone, that if you dont go, they wont run and blab it anyway
spies4Candy (1:31:27 AM): Well I was thinking that I'd send a master list to the person I trust the most so they'd know who needs to post
spies4Candy (1:31:37 AM): And if someone actually didn't post, they'd get the others together and go after that perosn
spies4kip (1:31:45 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:35:00 AM): figure out what you're gonna do?
spies4Candy (1:35:37 AM): No
spies4Candy (1:35:54 AM): Because it's so insane that it will completely ruin the game for the citizens if I'm wrong
spies4Candy (1:37:17 AM): I have this great case against someone
spies4Candy (1:37:37 AM): But the BEST part of that case means I need to reveal a citizen
spies4Candy (1:37:40 AM): I can't do that Kip
spies4Candy (1:37:55 AM): I can't use the most solid piece of evidence I have against them
spies4Candy (1:37:58 AM): Because it puts someone in danger
spies4Candy (1:38:11 AM): I'm ready to bang my head against a wall
spies4kip (1:39:25 AM): ah
spies4kip (1:39:41 AM): well do you trust anyone to keep that info a secret?
spies4Candy (1:39:51 AM): You know what they say about secrets
spies4Candy (1:39:57 AM): The moment you tell someone it's no longer a secret
spies4kip (1:40:45 AM): but if you keep a secret, then it dies with you
spies4Candy (1:41:09 AM): This is why I need a plan that will work
spies4Candy (1:41:23 AM): I'm sorry
spies4Candy (1:41:29 AM): I'm probably driving you nuts too
spies4kip (1:42:14 AM): not yet
spies4Candy (1:45:31 AM): I can tell you who my case is against
spies4Candy (1:45:47 AM): Who I think needs to be exiled right after Cain
spies4kip (1:45:52 AM): ok
spies4Candy (1:46:07 AM): Masaki
spies4kip (1:46:40 AM): i had suspicions on him being the other other person to be a trad if it wasnt cain
spies4Candy (1:47:00 AM): That would be a good guess
spies4kip (1:47:11 AM): well zander too, but i dont think its zander
spies4kip (1:47:14 AM): call it a gut feeling
spies4Candy (1:47:21 AM): I personally see Mistaki on the Orthodoxy side
spies4Candy (1:47:27 AM): But if it's not Cain, he'd fit there too
spies4kip (1:47:37 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:47:40 AM): but why ortho?
spies4Candy (1:47:59 AM): Because I'm clouded by my paradigms
spies4Candy (1:48:05 AM): The ones that say "Cain's a traditionalist"
spies4Candy (1:48:19 AM): And he was in the same family as Naomi - that's another paradigm that's clouding my thinking
spies4Candy (1:48:29 AM): Thinking that the spies had to have split up
spies4Candy (1:48:35 AM): When it's actually smarter for them to stick together
spies4kip (1:49:06 AM): ah
spies4kip (1:49:21 AM): it appears the spies did seperate families
spies4Candy (1:49:59 AM): Two things against that
spies4Candy (1:51:11 AM): The first is that there is a valid point that most families were formed before identities were known
spies4Candy (1:51:17 AM): I grouped with Johan Lise and Abrams
spies4Candy (1:51:26 AM): Then as we were in our family chat together we got our roles
spies4kip (1:51:28 AM): the second one wasnt
spies4Candy (1:51:32 AM): Right ... the second wasn't
spies4kip (1:51:37 AM): and the third one wont be
spies4Candy (1:51:43 AM): Ugh one problem at a time
spies4Candy (1:51:45 AM): HAHA
spies4kip (1:52:17 AM): but back to you lise and johan
spies4kip (1:52:23 AM): and abrams
spies4Candy (1:52:56 AM): That you can't look at the first families and say that the spies spread out
spies4Candy (1:53:21 AM): But in a bizarre way it makes sense for the spies to family together
spies4Candy (1:53:32 AM): As a citizen I chose my family defensively
spies4Candy (1:53:42 AM): I wanted to be with Mistaki and MAGIC BOY so they couldn't vote for me
spies4Candy (1:53:49 AM): I was worried about their votes
spies4Candy (1:53:53 AM): Spies though
spies4Candy (1:54:03 AM): They need to make sure they can vote to save a spy who's in trouble
spies4Candy (1:54:13 AM): Which means family restrictions hurt them
spies4kip (1:55:00 AM): spies were prolly afraid that if two of them got caught together, people might assume they all stuck together
spies4Candy (1:57:33 AM): I need you to talk to Mistaki this episode and try to figure out what he's up to
spies4Candy (1:57:39 AM): Without letting on that I suspect him
spies4kip (1:57:48 AM): ill see what i can do
spies4Candy (2:08:57 AM): spies4Gordy: I find her genuinely appealing. We're going to have 2.5 kids someday
spies4Gordy: and then we can raise them to be non-spies
spies4Candy: And 1.3 cars
spies4Gordy: You're weird. You can't that many cars
spies4Candy: And you can have 2.5 kids?
spies4Gordy: a kid with two heads is every couple's dream
spies4kip (2:09:16 AM): ...
spies4Candy (2:09:24 AM): Best showmance ever
spies4kip (2:09:31 AM): he's talking about angelica?
spies4Candy (2:09:36 AM): Yeah before he knew she was a spy
spies4kip (2:09:42 AM): yeah
spies4kip (2:09:47 AM): i recall him calling her wifey
spies4Candy (2:09:55 AM): Yeah
spies4Candy (2:09:58 AM): That was awesome
spies4Candy (2:10:19 AM): He got her and then the other group of spies got him
spies4kip (2:10:29 AM): yeah
spies4Candy (2:10:58 AM): Ralph said this to Naomi
spies4Candy (2:11:00 AM): spies4Ralph (12:25:17 AM): and gordy thinks ure a spy but i nly want u to be a spy if its a kinky sex game
spies4Candy (2:11:21 AM): spies4Gordy (12:24:41 AM): confess Naomi! You're a spy!
spies4Naomi (12:24:44 AM): Tee Hee!
spies4Candy (2:12:07 AM): spies4Beverly: HANNA TOLD ME
spies4Beverly: I WAS UNPRUDUCTIVE
spies4Beverly: SO I SAID THIS
spies4Beverly: STOP EATING HANNA AND LOSE SOME WEIGHT THAT IS PRODUCTIVE
spies4Beverly: AND SHE AHSNT SPOKENT O ME SINCE LOL

spies4kip (2:12:42 AM): lol
spies4Candy (2:12:58 AM): You find the weirdest stuff looking back
spies4kip (2:14:11 AM): its rather funny
spies4kip (2:15:16 AM): hunting spies is rather tiring
spies4Candy (2:15:39 AM): Pretty much
spies4Candy (2:17:41 AM): spies4Singe: ironically, I singed myself tonight lol
spies4Candy: What'd you do?
spies4Singe: i was spinning fire outside
spies4Singe: and brushed my knee and it burned for about 2 secs
spies4kip (2:18:37 AM): lol
spies4Candy (2:19:02 AM): spies4Beverly: I WAS FALLING ASLEPE ANYWAYS IN THAT CHAT
spies4Beverly: SO SICK OF THE
spies4Beverly: "OMG DONT FIGHT!"
spies4Beverly: "STOP GUYS"
spies4Beverly: "SEPERATE!"
spies4Beverly: "TRANQUIL GUN!"
spies4Beverly: FUCK ITT

spies4kip (2:19:08 AM): ok well i should head to bed
spies4kip (2:19:14 AM): early day tomorrow
spies4Candy (2:19:18 AM): Night
spies4kip (2:19:23 AM): and ironically, it'll also be a late night
spies4kip (2:19:24 AM): sigh
spies4kip (2:19:27 AM): i cant wait...
spies4Candy (2:19:32 AM): What, girls?
spies4kip (2:19:39 AM): nah
spies4kip (2:19:43 AM): just life
spies4kip (2:19:53 AM): tomorrows gonna suck on 4 hours of sleep
spies4Candy (2:19:56 AM): So then get more
spies4Candy (2:19:56 AM): Duh
spies4kip (2:20:07 AM): heh gotta be up around 7
spies4kip (2:20:13 AM): 2:30 now
spies4Candy (2:20:19 AM): Make your personal assistant do your stuff
spies4kip (2:20:20 AM): i stay up to late
spies4kip (2:20:25 AM): i wish i had one
spies4Candy (2:20:32 AM): I'd lend you one but I need all 8
spies4kip (2:20:39 AM): 8!?
spies4Candy (2:20:47 AM): Deal with it.
spies4Candy (2:20:51 AM): Night Kip
spies4kip (2:20:59 AM): cant i just barrow one for one day?
spies4kip (2:21:15 AM): night candy

[Kip]

Leon

spies4kip (10:20:02 PM): hey leon
spies4Leon (10:20:07 PM): Heya Kip
spies4kip (10:20:20 PM): whats happening?
spies4Leon (10:20:27 PM): Imprisonment
spies4Leon (10:20:42 PM):
spies4kip (10:21:01 PM): yep
spies4kip (10:21:04 PM): im nervious
spies4Leon (10:21:12 PM): same
spies4kip (10:21:24 PM): its my first one
spies4Leon (10:21:42 PM): ah, well you should be safe
spies4kip (10:22:09 PM): well, so far we're both not vulnerable
spies4Leon (10:22:21 PM): hopefully we'll stay that way
spies4kip (10:22:28 PM): yea
spies4kip (10:22:40 PM): any thoughts on who bites it?
spies4Leon (10:23:21 PM): prolly Candy or Sing
spies4kip (10:23:41 PM): very possible
spies4kip (10:23:46 PM): they both are very helpful
spies4Leon (10:24:11 PM): which is exactly why they would be taken out
spies4kip (10:25:02 PM): ah im vulnerable
spies4Leon (10:25:08 PM): dang
spies4kip (10:28:00 PM): well anyway
spies4Leon (10:28:21 PM): ?
spies4kip (10:28:42 PM): change the subject off imprison lol
spies4kip (10:28:46 PM): to ease the tension
spies4Leon (10:28:48 PM): lol
spies4kip (10:29:15 PM): what'd ya think of the trial?
spies4Leon (10:29:29 PM): eh, i thought it would be more helpful to get rid of Bunni
spies4kip (10:31:32 PM): really? why?
spies4kip (10:31:40 PM): even if she was innocent?
spies4Leon (10:31:53 PM): because she could be a spy, and this way, we wouldnt have to think about exiling her later on
spies4Leon (10:32:05 PM): like if we exile in 4 rounds
spies4Leon (10:32:12 PM): then we couldve used that for someone else
spies4Leon (10:32:16 PM): if we got rid of her last round
spies4Leon (10:32:26 PM): idk, its strange logic, i thought it made sense though
spies4kip (10:33:12 PM): it kinda does
spies4kip (10:33:28 PM): but its basically like saying you dont care if shes innocent or not
spies4kip (10:33:32 PM): jsut that she could be a spy
spies4Leon (10:33:47 PM): yeah
spies4kip (10:37:02 PM): ugh this is so sacry
spies4Leon (10:37:12 PM): i know lol
spies4kip (10:39:56 PM): oh wow
spies4Leon (10:40:15 PM): ssh
spies4kip (10:40:27 PM): i wont spoil
spies4Leon (10:40:56 PM): damn
spies4Leon (10:41:00 PM): after I thought about it
spies4Leon (10:41:02 PM): I figured
spies4kip (10:41:09 PM): adelaide though!?
spies4Leon (10:41:17 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (10:41:22 PM): she had her suspicions
spies4Leon (10:41:32 PM): and every once in a while
spies4Leon (10:41:33 PM): were right
spies4kip (10:41:42 PM): which seemed to be directed soley at the trads though
spies4Leon (10:41:45 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (10:41:53 PM): but who knows
spies4Leon signed off at 10:45:25 PM.

[Kip]

Faizah

spies4kip (10:20:13 PM): hello faizah
spies4Faizah (10:20:37 PM): Hey
spies4Faizah (10:20:43 PM): I dont tihnk I have talked to Kip2.0 yet
spies4Faizah (10:20:44 PM): haha
spies4kip (10:20:56 PM): yeah seems we miss eachother
spies4Faizah (10:21:02 PM): So whats up
spies4kip (10:21:16 PM): ah not much, just waiting on sam lol
spies4kip (10:21:17 PM): you?
spies4Faizah (10:21:19 PM): same.
spies4Faizah (10:21:19 PM): lol
spies4kip (10:21:30 PM): its my first one
spies4Faizah (10:21:37 PM): They dont get easier
spies4Faizah (10:21:43 PM): Unless you dont see your face on vunerable
spies4Faizah (10:21:44 PM): lol
spies4kip (10:21:54 PM): lol
spies4kip (10:21:58 PM): yeah, i saw yours
spies4kip (10:22:45 PM): nervious?
spies4Faizah (10:22:47 PM): nah
spies4Faizah (10:22:50 PM): j/jk
spies4Faizah (10:22:51 PM): a little
spies4kip (10:22:54 PM): haha
spies4Faizah (10:22:55 PM): But if I go I go
spies4kip (10:23:08 PM): thats the game
spies4kip (10:23:27 PM): maybe someone will be saved again
spies4Faizah (10:24:10 PM): What do you mean
spies4kip (10:24:39 PM): wasnt someone saved at one before?
spies4Faizah (10:24:53 PM): Well, there was one was someone didnt go at all
spies4Faizah (10:25:00 PM): But I dont think Sam ever said they were "saved"
spies4kip (10:25:07 PM): true
spies4kip (10:25:20 PM): crap, im vulnerable
spies4kip (10:25:39 PM): well i just assumed it was like a physic role or something
spies4kip (10:25:43 PM): that they saved someone
spies4Faizah (10:26:54 PM): Possibly
spies4kip (10:27:25 PM): why would there have just been a blank imprisonment?
spies4Faizah (10:27:51 PM): No idea
spies4kip (10:29:24 PM): what'd ya think of the trial?
spies4Faizah (10:29:32 PM): I was glad she was saved!
spies4Faizah (10:29:36 PM): I dont think she is a spy.
spies4kip (10:29:43 PM): i agree
spies4Faizah (10:29:52 PM): I cant believe she got 3 guilty votes, to be honesty
spies4kip (10:30:31 PM): well the peope who voted that way didnt surprise me though
spies4kip (10:30:51 PM): zander wasnt really hiding his vote, to be honest
spies4Faizah (10:31:14 PM): yea
spies4Faizah (10:31:15 PM): brb
spies4Faizah went away at 10:31:23 PM.

[Kip]

Summer

spies4kip (9:34:20 PM): good luck
spies4Summer (9:34:54 PM): You too Kip
spies4kip (9:35:24 PM): im surprised i got home in time to see it
spies4kip (9:36:13 PM): brb
spies4kip (9:43:04 PM): back
spies4kip (9:43:32 PM): having a good day?
spies4Summer (9:43:59 PM): Yes and no
spies4Summer (9:44:05 PM): Yes overall it has been a good day
spies4Summer (9:44:11 PM): No because imprisonment days aren't really good days
spies4kip (9:45:04 PM): glad you had a good day, and yeah, imp's suck
spies4kip (9:45:12 PM): worried?
spies4Summer (9:47:22 PM): I'm currently more preoccupied with Singe
spies4Summer (9:47:32 PM): I have absolutely nothing to hide and talking to him makes me feel like I do
spies4Summer (9:47:36 PM): I feel like I'm dancing on swords when I talk to him
spies4kip (9:47:49 PM): really?
spies4Summer (9:48:47 PM): Do you know what I mean?
spies4kip (9:48:53 PM): no
spies4Summer (9:48:52 PM): It's the way he words things
spies4kip (9:48:58 PM): i feel fine talking to him...
spies4Summer (9:49:00 PM): And tries to turn everything you say against you
spies4Summer (9:49:05 PM): Okay
spies4kip (9:49:13 PM): well yeah, he does do that
spies4kip (9:49:23 PM): maybe its just me though, cuz i dont mind it
spies4kip (9:49:44 PM): i always get weird when talking to masaki
spies4Summer (9:51:47 PM): He's very demanding
spies4Summer (9:51:53 PM): If you don't agree with him, he gets angry
spies4kip (9:52:07 PM): and he always stops talking as soon as you show any sign of disagreement or suspicion
spies4kip (9:52:25 PM): so you gotta like appease his needs, else its like talking to a wall
spies4Summer (9:52:34 PM): I didn't realize that
spies4Summer (9:52:40 PM): Usually we get into confrontations
spies4kip (9:54:16 PM): lol
spies4kip (9:54:28 PM): he was telling me that hed go tonight before i did
spies4kip (9:54:37 PM): and itold him i didnt kno cuz i heard people suspect him
spies4kip (9:54:43 PM): and bam, he hasnt saud anything since
spies4kip (9:54:47 PM): been like 20 minutes haha
spies4Summer (9:55:07 PM): He doesn't know he's suspected?
spies4kip (9:56:58 PM): *rolls eyes*
spies4kip (9:57:04 PM): he's stupid if he thinks hes not
spies4Summer (9:57:36 PM): Or arrogant
spies4Summer (9:57:39 PM): I find him extremely arrogant
spies4kip (9:57:48 PM): he kinda is
spies4kip (9:58:00 PM): i am to though... to an extent
spies4Summer (9:59:22 PM): But you don't interrogate me when we talk
spies4Summer (9:59:33 PM): Or get pissy at me because I don't agree
spies4kip (10:00:29 PM): cuz i dont suspect you
spies4Summer (10:00:37 PM): I guess that would make it easier
spies4kip (10:00:39 PM): and people disagree, thats lie
spies4kip (10:00:45 PM): life*
spies4kip (10:05:16 PM): and its started...
spies4Summer (10:07:46 PM): Oh no
spies4Summer (10:07:54 PM): My computer is so old
spies4Summer (10:08:03 PM): I tried opening a thesaurus website a minute ago and it froze up
spies4kip (10:09:08 PM): ah
spies4Summer (10:10:22 PM): All right I'm going to try opening it now
spies4Summer (10:10:28 PM): If I don't respond for several minutes though ...
spies4Summer (10:10:31 PM): Well you'll know why
spies4kip (10:10:59 PM): kk
spies4Summer (10:13:40 PM): I can confirm that the two groups of Spies do have the capability to talk to one other to discuss secret Spy dealings.
spies4kip (10:13:47 PM): yeah i know
spies4kip (10:13:51 PM): thats crazy
spies4Summer (10:13:50 PM): I've suspected this for a while
spies4kip (10:13:59 PM): it does make sense though
spies4Summer (10:15:19 PM): Well it would also explain people who are okay with leaving spies in
spies4Summer (10:15:25 PM): (Like Masaki)
spies4kip (10:15:35 PM): hrmm
spies4Summer (10:16:18 PM): I wonder if they all disguise their language
spies4Summer (10:16:32 PM): Too bad Angelica didn't share that
spies4kip (10:16:42 PM): it'd be stupid not to
spies4Summer (10:18:40 PM): Is it just me or does Leon avoid every question he's asked?
spies4kip (10:18:50 PM): ive never IMed him
spies4Summer (10:19:00 PM): Well that's silly
spies4Summer (10:19:05 PM): How can you tell if he's a spy or not?
spies4kip (10:19:23 PM): well this is only the second time ive seen him on
spies4kip (10:19:48 PM): and i didnt even notice he was on til you mentioned he was
spies4Summer (10:19:52 PM): Oh, sorry
spies4kip (10:19:56 PM): lol
spies4kip (10:21:49 PM): talking to him now though
spies4kip (10:25:13 PM): vulnerable!
spies4Summer (10:26:44 PM): I saw
spies4Summer (10:26:54 PM): It's a pretty bad vulnerable list tonight
spies4kip (10:27:04 PM): yeah looks like it
spies4Summer (10:29:34 PM): I'm enjoying the story so far though
spies4Summer (10:29:42 PM): I didn't think Mrs. Jacobs would be murdered
spies4kip (10:29:51 PM): i did
spies4kip (10:29:59 PM): but i thought the husband wouldve didit
spies4Summer (10:30:00 PM): I should have seen it coming since the story has her name in it
spies4kip (10:30:12 PM): oh haha i didnt even notice that
spies4Summer (10:31:09 PM): Makes you wonder what else we're not noticing ... oh am I overthinking everything tonight or what
spies4kip (10:31:23 PM): heh
spies4kip (10:32:39 PM): omg my heart is pounding
spies4Summer (10:32:45 PM): That is a great cliffhanger
spies4kip (10:32:57 PM): the "goodbye" is chilling
spies4Summer (10:33:07 PM): My heart is pounding as well
spies4Summer (10:33:13 PM): And my palms are sweaty
spies4kip (10:33:37 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:33:44 PM): Best case scenario is Masaki
spies4kip (10:33:51 PM): dont kill me off yet sam! or spies!
spies4Summer (10:33:55 PM): Worst case scenario is anyone else
spies4Summer (10:34:35 PM): I really really hate imprisonments
spies4kip (10:34:44 PM): they're nerve wracking
spies4kip (10:34:47 PM): and this is my first!!
spies4Summer (10:35:06 PM): We were all in a group chat one for the first
spies4kip (10:35:15 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:35:15 PM): Everyone kept saying "Oh don't worry about it, a pawn always goes"
spies4Summer (10:35:25 PM): Then the final 3 vulnerable were Emma, Sherri, and Ralph
spies4Summer (10:35:37 PM): And everyone was like "But none of these guys are pawns. They're all real!"
spies4kip (10:35:46 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:36:00 PM): The lesson learned is, they're ALWAYS crazy
spies4kip (10:36:06 PM): yeah
spies4kip (10:36:20 PM): ugh i want it posted now
spies4kip (10:36:23 PM): but im scared to look
spies4Summer (10:36:57 PM): Well it's not up yet ...
spies4kip (10:37:09 PM): yet lol
spies4Summer (10:37:57 PM): People are definitely hitting refresh - look at how the page views climb
spies4kip (10:38:06 PM): hahah
spies4kip (10:38:46 PM): over 100
spies4kip (10:39:19 PM): posted
spies4kip (10:39:42 PM): wow!
spies4Summer (10:41:41 PM): That's just confusing
spies4kip (10:41:50 PM): why her?
spies4Summer (10:42:27 PM): Okay ... why Adelaide
spies4kip (10:42:50 PM): she seemed to be on the tail of the trads
spies4Summer (10:43:02 PM): Well she did eagerly vote Naomi and Beverly
spies4Summer (10:43:33 PM): And she was after Cain - these are all traditionalist issues
spies4kip (10:44:04 PM): she voted... kiyoshi, cain, abrams, angelica, bev, naomi, innocent
spies4Summer (10:44:20 PM): Youknow what this means
spies4Summer (10:44:26 PM): 5 of the 6 Kiyoshi voters were citizens
spies4Summer (10:44:43 PM): And Martha really was targeted by the spies
spies4Summer (10:44:51 PM): It's insanely clear right now
spies4kip (10:44:58 PM): yeah
spies4Summer (10:46:21 PM): Okay what else does this mean
spies4kip (10:46:33 PM): hrmm
spies4Summer (10:46:45 PM): It means that Cain looks pretty bad right now
spies4Summer (10:46:50 PM): But we think he's a traditionalist?
spies4kip (10:47:43 PM): yes
spies4kip (10:47:48 PM): thats what i think anyway
spies4kip (10:48:52 PM): leon says adelaides imprison figures
spies4Summer (10:49:00 PM): Well she was influential
spies4Summer (10:49:03 PM): Nearly everyone critiqued her
spies4kip (10:49:09 PM): yeah
spies4Summer (10:49:10 PM): She also was ready to state a case against Leon
spies4Summer (10:49:25 PM): I contacted her through PM and told her I was interested in working on developing it with her
spies4Summer (10:50:31 PM): I want to make sure my choices for voting are open
spies4Summer (10:50:39 PM): Would you like to be in a family with me?
spies4kip (10:50:48 PM): do you buy into the spies splitting up into different families theory?
spies4kip (10:50:59 PM): damon asked me earlier
spies4Summer (10:51:21 PM): Well you can always say no!
spies4Summer (10:51:24 PM): Just kidding
spies4kip (10:51:28 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:51:59 PM): I think that family choices depended on personal philosophy
spies4Summer (10:52:20 PM): My personal philosophy when I chose my family last time (Gordy and Angelica) was to align with people I wasn't going to vote for anyway
spies4Summer (10:52:26 PM): Make sure I could vote for whoever I wanted
spies4Summer (10:53:01 PM): A spy may have tried to align with people who would vote for them ... or aligned with another spy to throw people off ... or chose a group of people to do a challenge with ...
spies4Summer (10:53:19 PM): I wouldn't use family choices as evidence because it's all speculation
spies4kip (10:54:13 PM): yeah i dont
spies4kip (10:54:22 PM): but i am entertaining the theory
spies4kip (10:54:45 PM): i dont just write it off
spies4Summer (10:54:48 PM): Right
spies4kip (10:54:50 PM): though i dont buy into it
spies4kip (10:55:13 PM): which leads me to this, because if theres any weight to it... the only people left in adelaides second family are leon and damon
spies4Summer (10:55:54 PM): ...
spies4Summer (10:56:05 PM): That really wouldn't matter at all
spies4Summer (10:56:16 PM): We do know that in Adelaide's first family, she was the only spy
spies4Summer (10:56:19 PM): Emma I mean
spies4kip (10:57:04 PM): yeah
spies4kip (10:57:14 PM): i was just saying
spies4kip (10:57:31 PM): if the spies are all in different groups, like the theory says, one of damon or leon is a spy
spies4kip (10:57:38 PM): its nothing to go one, thats just what it says
spies4kip (10:57:42 PM): go n*
spies4kip (10:57:48 PM): go on*
spies4Summer (10:58:03 PM): Well we know that the Traditionalist spies may have tried to separate themselves out
spies4Summer (10:58:14 PM): But ... roles were given out later ...
spies4Summer (10:58:18 PM): Blah
spies4kip (10:58:40 PM): haha yeah i kno
spies4kip (10:58:43 PM): forget it
spies4kip (10:59:19 PM): its a pointless theory
spies4kip (10:59:30 PM): i was just entertaining it
spies4Summer (10:59:32 PM): My biggest lead is on Leon
spies4Summer (10:59:36 PM): From this imprisonment
spies4kip (10:59:45 PM): why?/
spies4Summer (10:59:56 PM): Because Singe already made a thread accusing him
spies4Summer (11:00:01 PM): Adelaide was going to chime in with her thoughts
spies4kip (11:00:13 PM): she was going too?
spies4Summer (11:00:34 PM): spies4Summer (10:49:12 PM): She also was ready to state a case against Leon
spies4Summer (10:49:27 PM): I contacted her through PM and told her I was interested in working on developing it with her
spies4kip (11:00:48 PM): yeah you said that
spies4kip (11:01:01 PM): but how did you kno she was going to?
spies4kip (11:01:07 PM): did she PM you?
spies4Summer (11:01:11 PM): She stated it publically
spies4Summer (11:01:16 PM): As soon as my computer speeds up I'll pull up the PM
spies4kip (11:01:19 PM): oh, i mustive missed it
spies4kip (11:01:28 PM): ill go look in singes thread
spies4kip (11:02:25 PM): oh, when she said she didnt have time a few days ago?
spies4Summer (11:02:35 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (11:02:44 PM): I really need a new computer
spies4Summer (11:02:46 PM): Please buy me one
spies4kip (11:02:55 PM): i cant even buy myself one
spies4kip (11:03:07 PM): well that was 3 days ago... why didnt she post anything before?
spies4Summer (11:03:43 PM): She posted way less maniacally last episode
spies4Summer (11:03:49 PM): I would guess real life stuff
spies4Summer (11:04:12 PM): Here's her reply to my PM:
spies4Summer (11:04:28 PM): I started my case but have been so busy im afraid it wont get done til tomorrow but ill PM you first! If i see you on AIM before then ill tell you my preliminary ones first! I had to sign off as Singe not suspecting Cain and being really out of the loop makes him EXTREMELY frustrating to talk to.
spies4Summer (11:05:01 PM): The PM I sent to her:
spies4Summer (11:05:04 PM): I noticed in the burg that you said you suspect Leon and are getting ready to post your reasons. I also suspect Leon (I had a long conversation with Masaki about this last night) and I have some ideas I'd like to talk to you about. I'll put them down in a PM later because I don't have time right now but I wanted you to know that you're not the only one who suspects him. If we present our case well enough we may get an Orthodoxy spy out!
spies4Summer (11:06:27 PM): Singe and Masaki are in a family together now
spies4kip (11:06:36 PM): yea just noticed
spies4kip (11:06:41 PM): question
spies4kip (11:06:53 PM): in exile 2, did people suspect grace may idle out?
spies4Summer (11:06:57 PM): Yes and no
spies4Summer (11:07:08 PM): I certainly noticed
spies4Summer (11:07:13 PM): And if I did, others did too
spies4kip (11:07:27 PM): cuz i was looking at vote history
spies4Summer (11:07:30 PM): But no one actually pointed it out
spies4kip (11:07:40 PM): zander voted martha over kiyoshi, but grace over madison
spies4Summer (11:07:55 PM): He and Madison were very close
spies4Summer (11:08:00 PM): Plus they were family
spies4kip (11:08:02 PM): which would be weird if people thought grace may idle
spies4kip (11:08:08 PM): ah
spies4kip (11:08:12 PM): that i didnt know
spies4kip (11:08:22 PM): well i saw how upset he was last night
spies4Summer (11:08:28 PM): He was?
spies4kip (11:08:39 PM): but i didnt kno how early they liked each other
spies4kip (11:08:42 PM): well the trial
spies4kip (11:08:44 PM): not last night
spies4kip (11:08:51 PM): when sam said she was expelled
spies4kip (11:09:01 PM): zander got all depressing and stuff in chat
spies4kip (11:09:08 PM): saying how he hated all his friends going
spies4kip (11:09:09 PM): and stuff
spies4kip (11:09:15 PM): you didnt notice it?
spies4Summer (11:09:26 PM): Oh right
spies4Summer (11:09:38 PM): I didn't talk to him last night but I do remember the group chat thing
spies4Summer (11:10:40 PM): Do you have any Old kip conversations with Adelaide?
spies4kip (11:11:08 PM): lemme double check
spies4kip (11:11:53 PM): none
spies4kip (11:12:47 PM): not many to go through
spies4Summer (11:12:53 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (11:13:28 PM): I do think Adelaide's imprisonment shows though that the spies aren't looking to imprison each other
spies4Summer (11:13:32 PM): I debated Singe on this
spies4kip (11:13:49 PM): well the way it looks now
spies4kip (11:13:54 PM): a lot of people are set on cain
spies4Summer (11:14:02 PM): He says that the Orthodoxy spies had to try to imprison a Traditionalist spy tonight because they'd want to control the imprisonments
spies4kip (11:14:08 PM): if its cain, the orthos have no reason to imprison him
spies4Summer (11:14:18 PM): I told him that when it's 1 v. 2 v. 12, the bigger enemy is the citizens
spies4kip (11:14:20 PM): cuz he'll be exiled
spies4kip (11:14:36 PM): and if we're wrong, oh well they didnt waste the imprisonment
spies4kip (11:14:43 PM): and
spies4Summer (11:14:43 PM): Yes I agree
spies4kip (11:14:47 PM): if we're all set on cain
spies4kip (11:14:52 PM): by imprisoning him
spies4kip (11:14:56 PM): regardless of his role
spies4kip (11:15:02 PM): now we have to pick someone else
spies4kip (11:15:11 PM): and what if we pick an ortho?
spies4kip (11:15:37 PM): leaving cain ensures his exile
spies4kip (11:15:50 PM): imping him gives us a chance to get an ortho
spies4kip (11:16:05 PM): it makes perfect sense
spies4Summer signed off at 11:16:47 PM.

[Kip]

Singe

spies4kip (9:25:26 PM): singe
spies4kip (9:25:32 PM): when did i state i was laying low?
spies4Singe (9:26:18 PM): the last kip did
spies4kip (9:26:23 PM): ah
spies4kip (9:26:34 PM): cuz i dont think ive been laying low at all...
spies4kip (9:26:47 PM): imprisonment is tonight right?
spies4Singe (9:27:12 PM): i think so
spies4Singe (9:27:19 PM): playing a game, sorry if i seem distracted
spies4Singe (9:27:20 PM):
spies4kip (9:27:23 PM): oh yeah, 9cst
spies4kip (9:27:30 PM): i thought 9est for some reason
spies4kip (9:27:38 PM): im surprised more people arent here though
spies4kip (9:31:05 PM): you nervious?
spies4Singe (9:32:20 PM): nope
spies4kip (9:32:27 PM): why not?
spies4Singe (9:32:30 PM): I think there are bigger threats than me
spies4Singe (9:32:34 PM): and
spies4Singe (9:32:45 PM): I think the odds of them hitting a spy are 1/13
spies4Singe (9:32:50 PM): so I dont have my hopes up
spies4kip (9:33:05 PM): yeah
spies4Singe (9:34:32 PM): i hope they dont nail a good cit but they probably will
spies4kip (9:34:44 PM): they should aim for one
spies4kip (9:34:49 PM): its smart for them to do so
spies4kip (9:34:54 PM): id expect nothing less
spies4Singe (9:37:38 PM): they'll aim for a spy still i think
spies4kip (9:42:14 PM): well... if they buy into cain being the last trad, i doubt theyd target him
spies4kip (9:42:18 PM): thinking hed go at exile
spies4kip (9:42:40 PM): though they might go for someone who could be it if cain isnt
spies4kip (10:59:03 PM): adelaide?
spies4Singe (11:00:47 PM): weird
spies4kip (11:01:37 PM): very
spies4kip (11:01:40 PM): i didnt expect it
spies4kip (11:13:29 PM): maybe it has something to do with how she said she had tihngs to post in your leon.candy thread, but never got around to it
spies4Singe (11:21:03 PM): hmm
spies4kip (11:30:59 PM): yeah
spies4kip (11:31:03 PM): mean anything?
spies4kip (11:31:17 PM): did she ever tell you what she meant to post?
spies4Singe (11:32:30 PM): nope
spies4Singe (11:32:36 PM): but her ideas were always loopy
spies4kip (11:33:06 PM): at times
spies4kip (11:39:06 PM): some people tohught she made a lot of sense at times

[Kip]

Masaki

spies4kip (9:27:06 PM): hey masaki
spies4Masaki (9:27:14 PM): Hey
spies4Masaki (9:27:19 PM): Nice avatar
spies4kip (9:27:43 PM): thanks
spies4kip (9:27:50 PM): i inverted the colors of my picture haha
spies4kip (9:28:06 PM): i thought sam should do it for players exiled/imprisoned
spies4Masaki (9:28:13 PM): haha
spies4kip (9:28:20 PM): nervious about imprisonment tonight?
spies4Masaki (9:28:23 PM): As always
spies4Masaki (9:28:29 PM): Although I don't think I'm a top target
spies4kip (9:28:38 PM): i dont either, but things happen
spies4kip (9:28:48 PM): im personally shocked more people arent here
spies4Masaki (9:29:06 PM): Problem is a lot of the remaining players are the idlers
spies4kip (9:29:37 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:31:10 PM): any predictions?
spies4Masaki (9:31:29 PM): I think Candy and Singe are the top two candidates, assuming neither are Orthodoxy
spies4Masaki (9:31:37 PM): They're the most influential players at this point
spies4kip (9:31:43 PM): agreed
spies4kip (9:31:49 PM): id be shocked if both survived
spies4kip (9:31:53 PM): though summer is a choice too
spies4Masaki (9:31:56 PM): Agreed
spies4Masaki (9:32:07 PM): I'd never have suspected she would be until more recently
spies4kip (9:32:15 PM): im afraid ill go after a week of playing
spies4Masaki (9:32:23 PM): I think you'll be fine
spies4kip (9:32:33 PM): singe isnt nervious at all
spies4Masaki (9:32:34 PM): Better chance of it being me than you.
spies4kip (9:32:43 PM): never know
spies4kip (9:32:50 PM): ive heard you were suspicious
spies4kip (9:32:56 PM): so you may slip cuz of that
spies4kip (9:33:56 PM): if that makes sense
spies4kip (9:43:10 PM): anyways
spies4kip (10:10:02 PM): ah you're vulnerable
spies4Masaki (10:58:20 PM): damn
spies4Masaki (10:58:24 PM): Adelaide
spies4kip (10:58:53 PM): yeah
spies4kip (10:58:59 PM): did not see that one coming
spies4kip (11:13:00 PM): why you think?
spies4Masaki (11:13:32 PM): I don't know. This doesn't make sense.
spies4kip (11:17:00 PM): its weird
spies4kip (11:17:14 PM): last thing she really posted was tha tshe had info on leon to post in singes topic
spies4kip (11:17:18 PM): but she never got around to it
spies4kip (11:17:21 PM): and now shes gne
spies4Masaki (11:17:59 PM): Which topic of Singe's?
spies4kip (11:18:43 PM): the leon/candy = orthos? one
spies4Masaki (11:20:11 PM): Hmm
spies4Masaki (11:20:12 PM): Good find
spies4kip (11:22:52 PM): yea

[Kip]

Masaki

spies4kip (3:42:24 PM): hey
spies4Masaki (3:51:31 PM): Hey
spies4kip (3:51:37 PM): whats up
spies4kip (3:53:26 PM): after cain goes
spies4kip (3:53:34 PM): cuz im sure he will tomorrow
spies4kip (3:53:43 PM): watch candy
spies4Masaki (3:54:00 PM): Erg
spies4Masaki (3:54:03 PM): I might be going
spies4kip (3:54:08 PM): tomorrow?
spies4Masaki (3:54:08 PM): Yeah
spies4kip (3:54:10 PM): doubtful
spies4Masaki (3:54:11 PM): Zander's going jihad against me
spies4kip (3:54:24 PM): i think hes building it up for next week
spies4kip (3:54:48 PM): candy even asked me the other day to gather information on you
spies4kip (3:55:01 PM): but that cain has to go tomorrow, no matter what
spies4Masaki (3:55:46 PM): Interesting
spies4kip (3:56:12 PM): she was so nervious about imp
spies4kip (3:56:16 PM): more than anyone i ever saw
spies4kip (3:56:22 PM): and it was days before
spies4kip (3:56:37 PM): talking about how she had all this information but needed a way to tell a million people if she went
spies4kip (3:56:40 PM): but not before
spies4kip (3:56:52 PM): trying to rope me into her plans, then telling me to wath you for her
spies4kip (3:57:09 PM): and saying cain has to go
spies4kip (3:57:18 PM): cuz his ID rides on her entire plan
spies4Masaki (3:57:17 PM): What the hell
spies4kip (3:57:22 PM): NAD
spies4kip (3:57:25 PM): i was thinking
spies4kip (3:57:33 PM): who were the two main pushers for cain?
spies4kip (3:57:39 PM): candy and ade
spies4kip (3:57:43 PM): if cain goes and is a cit
spies4kip (3:57:55 PM): candy looks bad, but with ade gone she can pawn it all onto ade
spies4kip (3:58:02 PM): and if cain is a spy candy takes all teh credit
spies4kip (3:59:06 PM): so yeah, i tihnk cain has to go
spies4Masaki (3:59:09 PM): Wow good point
spies4kip (3:59:20 PM): we need everything we can gather on candys motive for pushing him
spies4kip (3:59:22 PM): and now you
spies4Masaki (4:00:01 PM): Ok
spies4Masaki (4:00:07 PM): I'll work on Candy once I finish up with Zander
spies4Masaki (4:00:12 PM): He's a big problem for me right now
spies4Masaki (4:00:15 PM): Anyway
spies4Masaki (4:00:28 PM): If you think I am cryptic with how I talk, I want you to post it in that thred he started
spies4Masaki (4:00:33 PM): If you don't think so, I'd ask you do the same
spies4Masaki (4:00:37 PM): Be honest
spies4Masaki (4:00:38 PM):
spies4kip (4:00:42 PM): i will
spies4kip (4:00:44 PM): later tonight
spies4kip (4:00:46 PM): im off now
spies4Masaki (4:00:47 PM): Alright
spies4kip (4:00:51 PM): i just needed to talk to you abut that\
spies4Masaki (4:00:53 PM): Ok
spies4Masaki (4:00:55 PM): Thanks
spies4kip (4:01:05 PM): also, dont let on i suspect candy
spies4kip (4:01:10 PM): she thinks im all buddy buddy
spies4kip (4:01:22 PM): back around 9-10est
spies4kip (4:01:23 PM): later
spies4Masaki (4:01:40 PM): later
spies4Masaki signed off at 5:02:31 PM.

[Kip]

Singe

spies4kip (3:43:26 PM): hey singe
spies4Singe (3:43:42 PM): hey
spies4Singe (3:43:46 PM): what's up?
spies4kip (3:43:59 PM): something is bothering me...
spies4Singe (3:44:04 PM): what's that?
spies4kip (3:44:08 PM): do you think cain or candy are spies?
spies4kip (3:44:12 PM): either of them
spies4Singe (3:44:11 PM): not terribly
spies4Singe (3:44:28 PM): but i dont have a good alternative because so many people are wallflowers
spies4kip (3:44:48 PM): cuz something about candy doesnt sit right with me right now
spies4Singe (3:44:51 PM): what's that?
spies4kip (3:44:58 PM): shes all over cain in chats, wants him out asap
spies4Singe (3:44:58 PM): lots about her doesnt sit right with me
spies4Singe (3:45:01 PM): yeah
spies4kip (3:45:17 PM): but she also keeps telling me how much masaki needs to go
spies4Singe (3:45:18 PM): hehe
spies4kip (3:45:26 PM): but that cain has to go first
spies4Singe (3:45:31 PM): conclusion
spies4Singe (3:45:32 PM): ?
spies4kip (3:45:50 PM): then, shes so nervious for imp
spies4kip (3:46:00 PM): ive been around, ive never ever seen someone so nervious
spies4kip (3:46:04 PM): and its days before imp
spies4kip (3:46:33 PM): shes telling me she has so much info to tell people, but she has to come up with some complicated way of telling muiltiple people little scraps
spies4kip (3:46:48 PM): and hoping they can somehow piece it together
spies4kip (3:47:00 PM): the more i talk to her, the more i feel shes trying to set masaki up too
spies4kip (3:47:28 PM): i kno hes her next target, and regardless of what happens with cain, she'll go for him and people will flock to it
spies4kip (3:47:41 PM): if cain is innocent, she'll pawn it off on adelaide
spies4Singe (3:47:42 PM): im fighting the cain thing
spies4kip (3:47:53 PM): ade did post the first topic
spies4Singe (3:47:54 PM): i hope more people work up more suspects
spies4kip (3:47:57 PM): and put herself out there
spies4Singe (3:48:07 PM): yeah but candy posted the big 5 pieces of evidence
spies4kip (3:48:11 PM): by her going, if cain is innocent, it kinda makes candy look good
spies4Singe (3:48:09 PM): which suck
spies4kip (3:48:29 PM): cuz candy can say it was all ade and ade cant defend herself
spies4kip (3:48:48 PM): i just feel very strongly that candy is an ortho
spies4Singe (3:49:10 PM): well, the only things i have against that
spies4Singe (3:49:12 PM): are things like
spies4kip (3:49:28 PM): shes very vocal and strong, she helped track down trads
spies4Singe (3:49:27 PM): ang said on the third day that she hadnt spoken with candy yet
spies4kip (3:49:40 PM): of course ang would say that if they're together
spies4kip (3:49:51 PM): distance yourself from fellow spies
spies4kip (3:50:06 PM): you think ang would say she talks to candy a lot, and hope no one notices?
spies4kip (3:50:30 PM): which leads me to this...
spies4kip (3:50:36 PM): i dont think cain can be saved tomorrow
spies4kip (3:50:57 PM): so after he goes, all my focus is on candy, well, most of it
spies4kip (3:51:08 PM): watch her scramble for imp and be all "nervious"
spies4kip (3:51:15 PM): she'll go for masaki
spies4kip (3:51:29 PM): but i want to go for her
spies4Singe (3:51:50 PM): not sure about that
spies4kip (3:51:59 PM): unless something drastically changes my opinion
spies4Singe (3:52:00 PM): we cant ignore damon, johan, leon
spies4Singe (3:52:04 PM): they are coasting
spies4kip (3:52:12 PM): im not
spies4Singe (3:52:19 PM): you're starting to pick it up
spies4kip (3:52:33 PM): pick it up? the game?
spies4Singe (3:52:44 PM): yeah your posting and chatting frequency
spies4kip (3:52:59 PM): yeah, well it was hard for the 1st couple days
spies4kip (3:53:08 PM): i had to gather and analyze
spies4kip (3:53:15 PM): cuz i missed a lot
spies4kip (3:54:34 PM): but yeha, im starting to get into the swing of it
spies4kip (3:55:28 PM): i just feel candy is focusing so much on the trads, every time i ask her about the orthos she kinda blows it off
spies4kip (3:55:46 PM): and maybe she thinks that cuz im new she can suck me into her plans, i dunno
spies4Singe (3:56:15 PM): hehe
spies4kip (3:59:45 PM): ok well anyway i gotta go
spies4kip (3:59:48 PM): ill be back later
spies4kip (3:59:57 PM): like 5-6 hours
spies4kip (4:00:02 PM): talk to ya then if you're on
spies4Singe (4:00:38 PM): ok
spies4Singe (4:00:41 PM): have a good day

[Kip]

Moved to own thread.

[Kip]

Zander

spies4kip (9:53:03 PM): Boo.


Auto Response from spies4Zander (9:53:01 PM): I'm not letting you talk me out of this. Not again.


spies4Zander (9:53:24 PM): Hey sexy
spies4kip (9:53:34 PM): whats cookin'
spies4Zander (9:53:44 PM): Nothing really
spies4Zander (9:53:48 PM): to answer your most recent question
spies4Zander (9:53:54 PM): I'm obviously on, but I refuse to talkt o Masaki
spies4kip (9:54:01 PM): hes not there
spies4Zander (9:54:02 PM): last time I talked to someone after they were pretty much outed as a spy...
spies4kip (9:54:05 PM): as i IMed him as well
spies4Zander (9:54:13 PM): I talked to her for 3 hours and wound up not voting for her, and she was lying
spies4kip (9:54:25 PM): ah
spies4kip (9:54:34 PM): best not let it happen again
spies4Zander (9:54:37 PM): And my buddy list says he's on...
spies4Zander (9:54:41 PM): It says he's been on all day
spies4kip (9:54:50 PM): but yeah, i misread that cain part, i figured you did suspect him
spies4kip (9:54:57 PM): he is on
spies4Zander (9:54:58 PM): I do, but definitely not more than Masaki
spies4kip (9:55:01 PM): just not there
spies4Zander (9:55:06 PM): I think he's being framed as the traditionalist, I guess I should say
spies4kip (9:55:11 PM): hes like singe
spies4kip (9:55:13 PM): they disappear
spies4Zander (9:55:13 PM): if he is a spy, I'm fairly sure he's ortho
spies4kip (9:55:23 PM): if masaki is a spy 100% ortho
spies4Zander (9:55:42 PM): Wait you think Masaki is ortho or if Masaki is a spy then Cain is ortho?
spies4kip (9:55:51 PM): cain = trad
spies4kip (9:56:06 PM): but
spies4kip (9:56:12 PM): if cain is trad
spies4Zander (9:56:14 PM): Mmm, I still think Masaki is the trad...
spies4kip (9:56:19 PM): why would masaki want him around still
spies4Zander (9:56:24 PM): That's what I'm asking.
spies4Zander (9:56:29 PM): And he says to get info from Orthos
spies4Zander (9:56:31 PM): that doesn't check out
spies4kip (9:56:36 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (9:56:35 PM): he didn't use Angelica for information
spies4kip (9:56:41 PM): i dont think both are spies
spies4kip (9:56:43 PM): one might be
spies4kip (9:56:46 PM): but not both
spies4Zander (9:56:47 PM): he's full of shit.
spies4Zander (9:57:11 PM): Well mark my words, if Cain does get exiled, which he probably will, I still think Masaki is a spy.
spies4Zander (9:57:41 PM): I have a feeling no matter what side of spy-dom Masaki is on, I'll get Imprisoned next after calling him out and stuff lol. It's a good setup / attack either way
spies4kip (9:58:23 PM): i dunno
spies4kip (9:58:29 PM): i didnt see adeliade last time
spies4kip (9:58:33 PM): and i dont see you next
spies4Zander (9:58:40 PM): I don't think anyone saw Adelaide
spies4kip (9:58:50 PM): leon did
spies4Zander (9:58:51 PM): Anyway I'm throwing a party. I gotta get going
spies4kip (9:58:59 PM): he said it made sense for addy to go
spies4Zander (9:59:13 PM): If Angelica was telling the truth, it does make sense in a way I guess
spies4kip (9:59:21 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (9:59:22 PM): I definitely didn't suspect her
spies4Zander (9:59:26 PM): I definitely thought she'd make the endgame
spies4kip (9:59:36 PM): but no one really took angelicas comment about addy for 100% truth
spies4Zander (9:59:37 PM): And I think there was more to offer than she let on. A front similar to one that Beverly had
spies4kip (9:59:40 PM): cuz she lied about other stuff
spies4Zander (10:00:08 PM): At this point it seems that most of what Angelica said has turned out to be true, though. Which is why Masaki's relationship to Naomi in destroying Angelica's claim interests me.
spies4Zander (10:00:19 PM): Adelaide was indeed a citizen, and Naomi was indeed a spy.
spies4kip (10:00:26 PM): yeah
spies4Zander (10:00:27 PM): Whether Angelica's claimed ability was true, who knows...
spies4Zander (10:00:34 PM): but she was telling the truth on that...
spies4kip (10:00:46 PM): it seems angelica was the double voter
spies4Zander (10:00:47 PM): And I think there was more to learn from it, and I wonder why Naomi and Masaki tore it to shreds before she could tell us more
spies4kip (10:00:55 PM): singes theory on that makes a lot of sense
spies4Zander (10:00:58 PM): mmhmm
spies4Zander (10:01:00 PM): Okay I gotta go
spies4Zander (10:01:02 PM): I'll talk to you later
spies4kip (10:01:04 PM): alright
spies4kip (10:01:08 PM): ttyl
spies4kip (10:01:34 PM): and for the record, i do suspect masaki, just not as much as others right now

[Kip]

Hannah

spies4kip (12:32:18 AM): hey
spies4kip (12:32:23 AM): listen, i have nothing against you
spies4kip (12:32:27 AM): im not trying to be rude
spies4kip (12:32:35 AM): i just hate the "people need to talk more" posts
spies4hannah (12:34:05 AM): yes, but it needed to be done.
spies4hannah (12:34:30 AM): and i personally see ur posts as being potential conflict starting
spies4hannah (12:34:38 AM): which isnt helpful either
spies4hannah (12:34:50 AM): anyway, all this has very little to do with the actual game
spies4hannah (12:35:02 AM): now would u care to talk about the actual game?
spies4kip (12:35:08 AM): sure
spies4hannah (12:35:39 AM): I personally suspect Cain, Leon and Masaki the most. Although i am recently thinking about Damon too. U?
spies4kip (12:35:56 AM): cain and leon definatley
spies4kip (12:36:00 AM): masaki to a degree
spies4kip (12:36:13 AM): damon, no, otherwise i woulda looked for a new family
spies4kip (12:36:29 AM): cain for all the reasons posted
spies4hannah (12:36:38 AM): yeah i havent thought damon suspicious much, until summer and i were discussing ppls voting patterns
spies4kip (12:36:41 AM): i dont feel i need to go into that, as its all basically spelled out
spies4hannah (12:36:51 AM): (7:31:50 AM) spies4Summer: Round 1: Naomi voted Beverly
(7:32:05 AM) spies4hannah: round 2 damon voted beverly
(7:32:12 AM) spies4Summer: Round 3: Candy says Beverly said, in regards to Emma who couldn't vote for Jeremiah, "Do you want me to tell her to vote for me?"
spies4kip (12:37:48 AM): emma said that?
spies4hannah (12:38:05 AM): no beverly said that in regards to emma
spies4kip (12:38:19 AM): ah
spies4kip (12:38:21 AM): ok
spies4kip (12:39:22 AM): you said cain and masaki
spies4hannah (12:39:20 AM): why masaki only to a degree?
spies4kip (12:39:28 AM): which you planning on voting tomorrow?
spies4hannah (12:39:39 AM): i am not sure, right now i am leaning toward masaki
spies4kip (12:39:42 AM): masaki to a degree yeah, i didnt really look at him much until yesterday
spies4kip (12:39:58 AM): at first i just thought he got spooked when suspected
spies4hannah (12:40:04 AM): i mite change my mind tho
spies4hannah (12:40:35 AM): but Cain is another story, i am actually going to post parts of this convo i had with him just now on the board, it was the most frustrating thing ever
spies4kip (12:41:15 AM): the thing with cain...
spies4kip (12:41:22 AM): i dont think we can keep him
spies4kip (12:41:36 AM): theres great evidence stacked against him being the trad
spies4kip (12:41:40 AM): lots of people think so
spies4kip (12:41:47 AM): we need to see if he is or not
spies4hannah (12:41:57 AM): yeah it'll at least help narrow down big suspects if he isnt
spies4kip (12:42:01 AM): the longer he stays, the more blind we'll be to the real trad if we're wrong about him
spies4hannah (12:42:06 AM): yes thats true
spies4kip (12:43:10 AM): so yeah
spies4kip (12:43:18 AM): thats where i stand pretty much
spies4kip (12:43:45 AM): what'd ya think of addy going?
spies4hannah (12:43:52 AM): i thought it was very weird actually
spies4hannah (12:44:05 AM): wudnt have ever thought of her as a spy or as a threat to the spies
spies4kip (12:44:21 AM): well shes built a strong case on some people
spies4kip (12:45:10 AM): maybe its threatening
spies4kip (12:45:25 AM): and she did post she had some stuff on leon, but she'd post it later but never got around to it
spies4hannah (12:45:30 AM): hmmm, yes, but thats tainted by all her whimsical all overe the place posting
spies4kip (12:45:39 AM): true
spies4kip (12:46:08 AM): i tohught she would be better suited to gather her info in her confessional, and present it all in a neat post
spies4kip (12:46:18 AM): rather than make a bajillion topics
spies4hannah (12:46:43 AM): yeah and the problem was she didnt really think the theories thru before posting
spies4kip (12:47:39 AM): and a lot of people let her know that, which is why i think posting is down
spies4hannah (12:48:21 AM): yeah i also thought that could be why. I just was hoping ppl werent getting complacent
spies4kip (12:50:24 AM): and its harder now too cuz once we got some trads the information was flowing
spies4kip (12:50:42 AM): now since weve basically got them, and not much to go on for orthos, just odd behavior
spies4kip (12:50:58 AM): people are prolly feeling it
spies4hannah (12:51:16 AM): yeah there is no more 'hard evidence'
spies4hannah (12:51:32 AM): but i think getting rid of the obvious supects like cain and masaki will help us
spies4kip (12:51:54 AM): yeah it will in the long run, you'd think
spies4hannah (12:55:37 AM): so who do u think u will vote for?
spies4kip (12:57:00 AM): cain
spies4kip (12:57:12 AM): we need to kno what he is
spies4hannah went away at 1:08:19 AM.

[Kip]

PM from Candy


I'm sending this message out to the people I trust and almost-trust. I am not revealing names at this time.

No one else but you knows you're receiving this message. I ask that you don't reveal to anyone - ANYONE - that you received this message. I also ask that you don't reveal what I'm about to say to anyone because when more people know, the chances are it won't work.

There are enough of you that we have a strong voting block. So let's unite and take out a spy.

Who? My suspicions lie heavily on Masaki and Cain. I strongly believe they are both spies.

I want you to do 3 things:

1. Tell me if you're okay with voting Masaki and Cain, and why or why not.
2. Vote for Masaki in your confessional.
3. Keep in touch throughout the day. If enough of you disagree and think the votes should go for Cain, I'll PM everyone and we'll switch.

[Kip]

Masaki

spies4kip (1:12:26 AM): hey masaki
spies4Masaki (1:12:30 AM): Hey
spies4kip (1:12:41 AM): whats up
spies4Masaki (1:12:49 AM): Not much, just talking to Johan right now.
spies4kip (1:13:42 AM): oh johans on?
spies4Masaki (1:13:44 AM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (1:18:07 AM): Candy _might_ be hassling you in a moment
spies4kip (1:18:14 AM): she is now
spies4kip (1:19:40 AM): you told her i said she was going for you?
spies4Masaki (1:20:01 AM): What's she saying?
spies4kip (1:20:16 AM): asking me if i told you she was voting you
spies4kip (1:22:21 AM): why did you say anything?
spies4Masaki (1:22:33 AM): Because I know she's scared now
spies4Masaki (1:23:06 AM): Are you sure she said someting in a way that sounded like she was going to exile me?
spies4kip (1:23:09 AM): so, you werent supposed to tell her i said anything,
spies4kip (1:24:35 AM): she trusts me kinda, and if i can stay close to her i can watch her, but with you saying this, it puts me on the outside
spies4kip (1:25:18 AM): and besides, you should know you have votes coming at you now, you read zanders topic
spies4kip (1:25:22 AM): you kno hes voting for you
spies4kip (1:25:46 AM): you have to vote cain tomorrow
spies4Masaki (1:25:59 AM): I plan to
spies4kip (1:26:06 AM): we have to kno candys reaction to his alignment
spies4Masaki (1:26:07 AM): Don't worry, this won't screw you with Candy
spies4Masaki (1:26:12 AM): They think I'm the last Traditionalist
spies4Masaki (1:26:16 AM): Therefore you cannot be my partner
spies4Masaki (1:26:16 AM):
spies4kip (1:26:19 AM): and you cant tell her about me
spies4kip (1:26:33 AM): i have nothing to do with anything here
spies4Masaki (1:29:13 AM):
spies4Masaki (1:29:17 AM): Eventually Kip, you will have to take a stand
spies4Masaki (1:29:32 AM): I'm not telling you to do it against Candy, because I'm not certain she's got the bad intentions
spies4Masaki (1:29:39 AM): But if you think someone's a Spy, you'll have to face them
spies4Masaki (1:29:42 AM): That's all I'm saying
spies4kip (1:29:50 AM): oh i kno i will
spies4Masaki (1:29:49 AM): Survival isn't the ultimate goal
spies4kip (1:29:59 AM): but i was gonna wait to after the imprisonment
spies4kip (1:30:02 AM): to see who went
spies4kip (1:30:41 AM): i dont want to jump to the wrong conclusion on partial evidence
spies4Masaki (1:32:30 AM): Right
spies4Masaki (1:32:54 AM): Anyway, thanks for letting me know, and sorry I told her you told me, but I had to clear it up
spies4Masaki (1:32:58 AM): Apparently she didn't mean it that way
spies4kip (1:33:27 AM): mean what?
spies4Masaki (1:34:31 AM): She claims she just wanted you to get a fresh perspective of me since you were just recently replaced into the game
spies4kip (1:34:44 AM): you believe her?
spies4Masaki (1:34:50 AM): Maybe
spies4Masaki (1:35:01 AM): I think she'll be more hesitant now because I know
spies4kip (1:37:44 AM): maybe
spies4Masaki signed off at 1:55:08 AM.

[Kip]

Summer

spies4kip (12:17:23 AM): hello summer
spies4Summer (12:17:44 AM): Hi Kip!
spies4kip (12:17:55 AM): whats up?
spies4Summer (12:18:46 AM): In the dorm on a Saturday night
spies4Summer (12:18:51 AM): Sometimes I wish I was the party type
spies4kip (12:19:07 AM): im at home on a saturday haha
spies4Summer (12:19:20 AM): So we're losers together
spies4kip (12:19:32 AM): seems so
spies4Summer (12:20:07 AM): I never thought I'd say this, but I'm glad I'm in a family with Faizah
spies4kip (12:20:17 AM): haha why is that?
spies4Summer (12:20:30 AM): Well at the beginning of the game I took a LOT of heat for suspecting her
spies4Summer (12:20:42 AM): Adelaide, Hannah, Beverly, Faizah herself ...
spies4Summer (12:21:02 AM): They were all mad at me for posting that I thought there was probably a spy in the diva group and that Faizah would make the best one
spies4Summer (12:21:20 AM): Now the only people un-familied are me, Faizah, Leon, and Cain
spies4Summer (12:21:31 AM): Faizah is my best choice
spies4kip (12:21:37 AM): ah
spies4kip (12:21:47 AM): well you were right with your initial suspicion
spies4kip (12:21:51 AM): but bev was the spy
spies4kip (12:21:58 AM): and i dont see how she can still be mad about it
spies4Summer (12:22:22 AM): Well I asked her to be in my family the last time we made families!!
spies4Summer (12:22:26 AM): I didn't want her to be able to vote for me
spies4Summer (12:22:31 AM): She essentially told me to piss off
spies4kip (12:22:44 AM): haha
spies4kip (12:26:29 AM): well if shes with you now
spies4kip (12:26:31 AM): then thats good
spies4kip (12:26:38 AM): maybe her attitude changed
spies4Summer (12:26:51 AM): After Beverly went, her attitude drastically changed
spies4Summer (12:27:13 AM): Part of me doesn't want to complain because it's nice that she's stopped trying to convince people I'm suspicious
spies4Summer (12:27:26 AM): The other part of me wonders if she's trying to find new people to hide behind now that Beverly's gone
spies4kip (12:30:27 AM): possible
spies4kip (12:30:35 AM): ugh, hannah... annoys me lol
spies4Summer (12:31:50 AM): If you think she's a spy, that's okay
spies4kip (12:31:59 AM): i dont
spies4Summer (12:31:59 AM): If you don't think she is, then you need to make amends
spies4kip (12:32:02 AM): really
spies4Summer (12:32:09 AM): Because I'm fairly sure you are both citizens
spies4Summer (12:32:17 AM): And that means you'll have to focus your attention on the spies, not each other
spies4kip (12:32:53 AM): yeah i kno
spies4kip (12:33:58 AM): hard when she wont respond to IMs or see the hypocracy she breathes
spies4Summer (12:34:03 AM): Sigh
spies4Summer (12:34:18 AM): She said she wishes she could vote people off just for being annoying
spies4kip (12:34:35 AM): then she'd be all thats left
spies4Summer (12:35:34 AM): BLECH
spies4Summer (12:35:37 AM): Faizah wants me to be a diva
spies4kip (12:35:42 AM): ><
spies4kip (12:35:43 AM): sigh
spies4Summer (12:35:48 AM): I told her no!!!
spies4kip (12:36:17 AM): haha!
spies4kip (12:36:21 AM): you go summer!
spies4Summer (12:37:14 AM): I don't even like pink.
spies4Summer (12:37:48 AM): Did you remember to do the rankings activity?
spies4kip (12:37:55 AM): yes
spies4kip (12:37:59 AM): just recently lol
spies4kip (12:38:15 AM): sam IMed me, and i thought i was late, usually go with est *whew*
spies4Summer (12:38:20 AM): He posted a reminder in my confessional
spies4kip (12:38:29 AM): same
spies4Summer (12:38:28 AM): I felt pretty bad about having to be reminded
spies4kip (12:38:32 AM): me too
spies4Summer (12:38:34 AM): I forgot to put it in my homework planner
spies4kip (12:38:36 AM): i usually remember
spies4kip (12:38:47 AM): it just slipped my mind, i was gone all day basically
spies4Summer (12:38:57 AM): Did you have fun?
spies4kip (12:39:07 AM): as much as could be had
spies4Summer (12:42:03 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (12:42:07 AM): Looks like Candy forgot to do them too
spies4kip (12:42:20 AM): haha
spies4kip (12:42:26 AM): well me and hannah are talking
spies4kip (12:42:26 AM): kinda
spies4Summer (12:42:27 AM): Good!
spies4kip (12:42:44 AM): like rehashed convos ive had with candy though
spies4kip (12:42:46 AM): and zander
spies4kip (12:42:59 AM): but its good to hear her side
spies4kip (12:48:07 AM): so what's your take on this masaki scandel?
spies4Summer (12:48:17 AM): I tried to reread it
spies4Summer (12:48:21 AM): I need to try harder
spies4Summer (12:48:23 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (12:48:28 AM): lol
spies4kip (12:48:32 AM): do you buy it?
spies4Summer (12:49:59 AM): I think that Zander is sincere
spies4Summer (12:50:12 AM): There's always been things about Masaki that have rubbed me the wrong way
spies4Summer (12:50:19 AM): But I always chalked it up to his awful personality
spies4Summer (12:50:55 AM): I'm open to the idea of him as a spy on either side, which is odd - you'd think evidence would point for him one way or another
spies4kip (12:51:38 AM): i tihnk it points more towards ortho than anything, but maybe thats cuz im on the trad = cain trian
spies4Summer (12:52:31 AM): I reviewed his previous posts
spies4kip (12:52:38 AM): i dont think we can afford to exile anyone but him next exile... to be honest
spies4Summer (12:52:40 AM): There's one that really sticks out for me
spies4kip (12:52:43 AM): him being cain
spies4Summer (12:52:48 AM): I do agree on that
spies4Summer (12:52:53 AM): We have to know NOW what he is
spies4kip (12:52:58 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:53:10 AM): and this masaki stuff, right now, is just going to divide people
spies4Summer (12:53:10 AM): And I don't just say that because he has the tiebreaker for the rest of the game
spies4kip (12:53:16 AM): no
spies4kip (12:53:20 AM): we need to know
spies4kip (12:53:24 AM): cuz if hes not the trad
spies4kip (12:53:27 AM): and we leave him
spies4kip (12:53:34 AM): we'll be blind to it, until he goes
spies4kip (12:53:38 AM): unless they really mess up
spies4Summer (12:54:19 AM): I doubt he'll be imprisoned by the Orthodoxy anywa
spies4Summer (12:54:23 AM): They didn't take the chance this round
spies4kip (12:54:31 AM): nope
spies4Summer (12:54:32 AM): Which actually would have been a fantastic move for them, considering the chaos it would have thrown us into
spies4kip (12:54:34 AM): and next round he cant
spies4kip (12:54:38 AM): if he stays
spies4kip (12:54:46 AM): unless masaki is the trad and goes
spies4Summer (12:54:51 AM): So long as there's an easy exile target, everyone's happy ... you know?
spies4Summer (12:54:59 AM): Taking Cain out woudl have been HUGE
spies4kip (12:55:07 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:55:20 AM): which was why it didnt happen
spies4kip (12:55:28 AM): the two worst things the orthos coulda done
spies4kip (12:55:34 AM): were imprison cain
spies4Summer (12:55:37 AM): Worst for them as spies, or worst for us as citizens?
spies4kip (12:55:45 AM): or accidently the other trad, unless they knew who it was
spies4kip (12:55:53 AM): for the orthos
spies4kip (12:56:02 AM): if they imp cain
spies4kip (12:56:14 AM): then this next exile is basically open to anyone
spies4kip (12:56:33 AM): if they get the trad and its not cain, it kinda clears cain, no one thinks he's ortho material
spies4Summer (12:57:22 AM): That's an excellent point
spies4kip (12:57:51 AM): so in that respect, adelaide going is expected, but i still didnt think it'd be her
spies4kip (12:58:06 AM): when i say the people who were vulnerable, i didnt think for a second it'd be her
spies4kip (12:58:09 AM): saw*
spies4Summer (12:58:10 AM): Neither did i!
spies4Summer (12:58:14 AM): I thought Singe or Candy
spies4kip (12:58:21 AM): as did i
spies4kip (12:58:29 AM): im still shocked they're both here
spies4Summer (12:58:34 AM): I actually have problems believing it
spies4kip (12:58:58 AM): the spies cant run the risk of us thinking they're too good not to be imprisoned so they gotta be spies, forever
spies4Summer (12:59:05 AM): Sigh
spies4kip (12:59:14 AM): eventually, if they arent spies, they will be imp'd
spies4kip (12:59:34 AM): why you sighing at me
spies4Summer (12:59:32 AM): Well if the last traditionalist makes it through, I'm fairly certain he or she will take out someone who is targeting them
spies4Summer (12:59:57 AM): I'm sighing thinking that it's possible that either will be exiled
spies4kip (1:00:12 AM): its hard
spies4kip (1:00:36 AM): cuz would the spies purposely leave thme out there so people would think they had to be spies
spies4Summer (1:00:41 AM): That's what I'm thinking
spies4kip (1:00:48 AM): or whould the spies take they out, cuz its a huge risk to keep them
spies4Summer (1:00:48 AM): Because unless they are BOTH orthodoxy spies, why wasn't ONE imprisoned?
spies4kip (1:00:55 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:01:07 AM): and theres no way i believe both are sies
spies4kip (1:01:09 AM): spies*
spies4Summer (1:01:08 AM): Same
spies4kip (1:01:25 AM): but if they stay forever, ill be hard pressed to believe both arent
spies4Summer (1:01:53 AM): Maybe it's meant to be some sort of threat mechanism
spies4Summer (1:02:09 AM): If we exiled one and they turned out to be a citizen, we'd be scared to death of exiling the other (spy)
spies4kip (1:02:18 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:02:19 AM): But I actually don't think either are spies
spies4Summer (1:02:21 AM): So I don't know what's going on
spies4kip (1:02:55 AM): i guess, when we get to that bridge, we ask ourselves who is most likely the spy
spies4kip (1:04:28 AM): and i hate saying it, but right now id say candy over singe
spies4Summer (1:04:40 AM): Let's get to Masaki and Cain first!
spies4kip (1:04:46 AM): well yeah
spies4Summer (1:05:44 AM): Is Singe actually online?
spies4Summer (1:05:58 AM): He todl me earlier he was busy leading 25 people into battle
spies4Summer (1:06:01 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (1:06:09 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:06:11 AM): hes always on
spies4kip (1:06:21 AM): but its 50/50 if hes there
spies4Summer (1:06:31 AM): That hasn't caught on yet since we just went through 2 weeks of him NOT being here
spies4Summer (1:06:35 AM): You just joined
spies4Summer (1:06:42 AM): So you don't really know how weird it is
spies4Summer (1:06:59 AM): But welcome
spies4kip (1:07:17 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:07:38 AM): it is kinda weird how he just pops up
spies4kip (1:07:48 AM): sometimes i think hes really there just ignoring us
spies4kip (1:07:50 AM): and laughing
spies4Summer (1:07:56 AM): I think he's probably an addicted gamer
spies4Summer (1:08:12 AM): And he does ignore us sometimes to pay attention to another game or two
spies4kip (1:08:38 AM): maybe
spies4Summer (1:08:48 AM): It's an uneducated guess
spies4kip (1:09:15 AM): seems like a good one
spies4kip (1:38:50 AM): people need to stop changing their minds
spies4Summer (1:38:59 AM): Hmm?
spies4kip (1:39:13 AM): masaki, cain.... cain, masaki
spies4Summer (1:39:29 AM): Well it depends on what you want
spies4Summer (1:39:40 AM): Do you want to hit a strong player who has a good chance of being a spy on either side?
spies4Summer (1:39:53 AM): Or do you want to hit a lame player who has a very good chance of being a spy on one side?
spies4Summer (1:40:00 AM): Both sound good to me
spies4kip (1:40:26 AM): i guess
spies4kip (1:40:39 AM): as long as cain survives the burg will be split
spies4Summer (1:40:47 AM): Yes, I agree
spies4kip (1:41:03 AM): i dont think we can have that though

[Kip]

Johan

spies4kip (1:13:58 AM): hey johan
spies4Johan (1:14:24 AM): Greetings! How are you my friend?
spies4kip (1:17:10 AM): im going good
spies4kip (1:17:11 AM): yourself?
spies4Johan (1:19:12 AM): I am okay... Looking forward to another spy being removed Sunday, yes?
spies4kip (1:19:20 AM): yes very
spies4Johan (1:20:50 AM): So what is the word on who is in trouble? I thought it would be Cain for certain, and yet now I am hear more names such as Masaki and Abrams
spies4kip (1:21:05 AM): i hear masaki and cain
spies4Johan (1:21:33 AM): This is odd pair, no? Is either one in more danger than the other?
spies4kip (1:21:48 AM): right now it looks like masaki
spies4Johan (1:22:33 AM): Hmm, he has been a valuable addition to the Burg, however I can understand the suspicion over him... still, I think Cain seems most suspicious
spies4kip (1:23:35 AM): as do i
spies4kip (1:23:40 AM): and i intend on voting for cain
spies4Johan (1:23:53 AM): This seems as wise choice, I myself plan on this as of right now, also
spies4kip (1:28:07 AM): yeh
spies4kip (1:28:15 AM): i mean, we have to kno what cain is, right?
spies4kip (1:28:24 AM): if hes a cit, then we kno we have to look for the trad still
spies4kip (1:28:33 AM): if he keep him, everyone will keep assuming is cain
spies4kip (1:28:39 AM): and we'll be blind if its not him
spies4Johan (1:29:09 AM): Yes, it is dangerous to assume he is the last Trad, and yet it by far makes the most sense
spies4Johan (1:29:31 AM): But part of me is afraid that then the Orthos will be able to focus on only citizens
spies4kip (1:31:08 AM): thats a risk we'll have to take eventually
spies4kip (1:31:10 AM): and this way
spies4kip (1:31:21 AM): with only orthos, we cna gather more out of imprisonments
spies4kip (1:31:27 AM): cuz now its ony them doing it
spies4kip (1:31:40 AM): they'll have to pick enemies and we can go from there
spies4Johan (1:32:03 AM): Ah, a good point you make.. As of now the imprisonments are more diffuse... I had not thought of this at all
spies4kip (1:37:32 AM): so yeah, my vote is decided
spies4kip (1:37:38 AM): unless something huge happens tomorrow
spies4Johan (1:39:37 AM): I would not rule this out.. huge things often seem to happen Although I cant imagine Cian not going... He is such easy target, especially given that he decided to disapepar conveniently
spies4kip (1:39:51 AM): yeah

[Kip]

Candy

spies4kip (1:08:50 AM): hello candy
spies4Candy (1:08:59 AM): Kip
spies4kip (1:09:20 AM): whats cookin
spies4Candy (1:09:26 AM): You'd have to ask my personal chef
spies4Candy (1:09:36 AM): At this hour nothing because anything I eat will go to my thighs
spies4kip (1:09:45 AM): ah
spies4kip (1:09:48 AM): well not good
spies4Candy (1:10:07 AM): It's good. And I want to keep it that way.
spies4Candy (1:10:10 AM): What's up with you?
spies4kip (1:10:24 AM): not a lot, just chatting
spies4kip (1:11:50 AM): did you read zanders thread?
spies4Candy (1:12:23 AM): No
spies4kip (1:12:32 AM): oh
spies4kip (1:13:50 AM): its an interesting read
spies4kip (1:13:52 AM): on masaki
spies4Candy (1:13:52 AM): Kickass
spies4Candy (1:13:55 AM): Speaking of Masaki
spies4Candy (1:13:57 AM): You have a PM
spies4kip (1:14:08 AM): oh ill check it now
spies4Candy (1:17:33 AM): You tell Masaki about my PM?
spies4kip (1:17:49 AM): no i did not
spies4Candy (1:17:52 AM): spies4Masaki: Why you blindsiding me?
spies4Candy: Who says I'm blindsiding you?
spies4Masaki: Kip
spies4kip (1:17:56 AM): i just finished reading it actually
spies4kip (1:18:01 AM): ?
spies4Candy (1:18:20 AM): spies4Masaki: says you're planning to take me out next exile.
spies4Masaki: If you got a problem, let's talk
spies4Candy (1:18:25 AM): What did you tell him
spies4kip (1:18:44 AM): i told him, earlier, that i heard his name for exile, i nevr said you
spies4kip (1:18:53 AM): and he should kno that cuz he was asking me about the burg posts
spies4kip (1:18:55 AM): and stuff
spies4kip (1:19:01 AM): this was at like 3est
spies4Candy (1:20:04 AM): He's telling me about that thing I told you
spies4Candy (1:20:09 AM): To gather info on him
spies4kip (1:20:35 AM): what?
spies4Candy (1:20:41 AM): I told you to talk to him
spies4Candy (1:20:45 AM): I told you to get info on him
spies4kip (1:20:52 AM): yeah i kno you did
spies4Candy (1:20:54 AM): Why would you tell him that's why you were talking to him?
spies4kip (1:21:13 AM): i never told him that!
spies4kip (1:22:10 AM): why would i ever tell him i was only talking to him to gather infomation on him for you?
spies4kip (1:22:13 AM): that makes no sense
spies4Candy (1:22:14 AM): Fine, I'm handling it
spies4Candy (1:22:18 AM): Keep your mouth shut for now
spies4kip (1:22:30 AM): my mouths been shut
spies4kip (1:22:37 AM): i dunno what hes talking about
spies4Candy (1:23:51 AM): spies4Candy: I told him last night that he should talk to you to get an opinion on you
spies4Candy: I told him that he has a fresh perspective on things and I wanted to know what he thought of you
spies4kip (1:26:44 AM): ok
spies4kip (1:26:56 AM): trust me though, i didnt tell him anything you were saying
spies4Candy (1:27:03 AM): OK
spies4Candy (1:27:07 AM): Don't make me flip out like that
spies4kip (1:27:36 AM): anyways, about this PM, why the switch to masaki?
spies4kip (1:27:46 AM): i tohught we had to kno what cain was?
spies4Candy (1:27:52 AM): I've been going back and forth all day
spies4Candy (1:28:03 AM): Then I logged on and saw Cain had 2 extra votes
spies4Candy (1:28:11 AM): Or 1 extra vote, whatev
spies4Candy (1:28:24 AM): I don't know - I really don't
spies4Candy (1:28:27 AM): I'm going on gut here
spies4kip (1:28:52 AM): ok heres where i sit
spies4kip (1:28:56 AM): if we vote cain
spies4kip (1:28:59 AM): we know what he is
spies4kip (1:29:06 AM): and we know if we need to find a trad still
spies4kip (1:29:10 AM): if we vote masaki
spies4kip (1:29:27 AM): cain stays and if cain isnt the trad, we're blind to it
spies4kip (1:29:33 AM): cuz everyone will still assume its cain
spies4Candy (1:30:26 AM): Yeah that's one reason why I made the call on Naomi last round
spies4Candy (1:30:56 AM): No matter what she was, we'd be divided as long as she was there
spies4Candy (1:31:13 AM): To become united and focused on the game as a whole, Naomi had to go
spies4Candy (1:31:21 AM): Cain's the same thing, if I'm understanding what you're saying
spies4kip (1:31:56 AM): and plus
spies4kip (1:31:59 AM): if he is the trad
spies4kip (1:32:12 AM): with them gone, we can focus on imprisonment for more clues
spies4kip (1:32:34 AM): cuz now they'll all be for cits, adn we can gather more info from there
spies4kip (1:32:57 AM): cuz right now, with both groups going, its hard to really gather info on what the spies think
spies4Candy (1:33:05 AM): Right
spies4kip (1:33:10 AM): cuz we have to wait every 2 rounds
spies4Candy (1:33:09 AM): Because there are too many dimensions
spies4kip (1:35:21 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:35:27 AM): i cant not vote him
spies4kip (1:35:34 AM): im sorry if im being stubborn
spies4Candy (1:35:43 AM): No it's fine
spies4Candy (1:35:45 AM): I want everyone's input
spies4Candy (1:35:51 AM): Well
spies4Candy (1:35:55 AM): Everyone I PMed's input
spies4kip (1:36:00 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:37:25 AM): well its good to get everyones
spies4kip (1:41:33 AM): cant neglect peopl
spies4Candy (1:41:42 AM): You feeling neglected??
spies4kip (1:41:59 AM): not particuarily
spies4Candy (1:42:00 AM): Uhhhh
spies4kip (1:42:03 AM): should i
spies4Candy (1:42:10 AM): Confused.
spies4kip (1:42:48 AM): just coming in late makes it hard cuz people all have groups, its hard to get into one
spies4kip (1:43:09 AM): aside from you, i dont have people i trust
spies4kip (1:43:25 AM): or people who trust me
spies4Candy (1:44:17 AM): Yeah problem taking over for old Kip
spies4Candy (1:44:20 AM): He had NOTHING
spies4Candy (1:44:34 AM): But it also means you're not going anywhere
spies4Candy (1:44:42 AM): I probably put you at the top of my "likely to stay around" list
spies4kip (1:44:46 AM): im outof all the loops
spies4kip (1:44:52 AM): which sucks
spies4kip (1:45:04 AM): id rather by exiled or imprisoned if i can help
spies4kip (1:45:08 AM): rather than coast
spies4kip (1:45:12 AM): cuz no one trusts me
spies4Candy (1:45:27 AM): Yeah? You think everyone trusts me?
spies4Candy (1:45:28 AM): Get over it
spies4Candy (1:45:35 AM): You're doing fine so far
spies4Candy (1:45:38 AM): This is what, day 3 for you?
spies4kip (1:46:12 AM): week
spies4kip (1:46:16 AM): at least
spies4kip (1:46:20 AM): feels longer ><
spies4Candy (1:46:21 AM): Oops
spies4Candy (1:46:26 AM): HAHA
spies4Candy (1:46:34 AM): Sam told me this game might go into December
spies4Candy (1:46:38 AM): I almost pitched a fit
spies4Candy (1:46:45 AM): You think a week's long?
spies4kip (1:47:11 AM): december would be cool
spies4Candy (1:47:55 AM): HAHA you're sick
spies4kip (1:48:05 AM): i like winter
spies4Candy (1:48:16 AM): You just went from sick to very mentally unstable
spies4kip (1:48:34 AM): been here for 9 days
spies4kip (1:48:45 AM): and whats wrong with winter?
spies4kip (1:48:49 AM): snow! awesome
spies4Candy (1:48:57 AM): Because modeling shoots in mini skirts in winter locations sucks
spies4kip (1:49:06 AM): pssh
spies4kip (1:49:10 AM): to quote you
spies4kip (1:49:13 AM): get over it
spies4Candy (1:49:12 AM): Dont ever!
spies4Candy (1:49:13 AM): HAHA
spies4Candy (1:49:20 AM): I saw that coming
spies4kip (1:49:29 AM): lol
spies4Candy (1:49:41 AM): We're probably changing to Cain
spies4Candy (1:49:49 AM): You have to pick and choose your battles
spies4Candy (1:50:09 AM): My suspect list is down to 6. Mistaki and Truman are both on it, and so long as one of them goes, my list goes down to 5.
spies4Candy (1:50:21 AM): I win either way
spies4kip (1:50:25 AM): who are the rest?
spies4Candy (1:50:26 AM): HAHA
spies4Candy (1:50:28 AM): One's immune
spies4Candy (1:50:31 AM): If that gives you a hint
spies4Candy (1:50:34 AM): One's a beetle
spies4kip (1:50:36 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:50:49 AM): bunni and leon
spies4Candy (1:50:56 AM): And I'll keep the other 2 quiet for now
spies4kip (1:51:02 AM):
spies4kip (1:51:04 AM): kk
spies4Candy (1:51:33 AM): It's bad enough that Mistaki can come after me guns blazing if he gets a hold of my PM
spies4Candy (1:51:42 AM): Which I thought he had
spies4kip (1:51:51 AM): we'll i wont give it out
spies4Candy (1:52:34 AM): Who would you say?
spies4Candy (1:52:39 AM): Cain obviously
spies4kip (1:52:48 AM): for my suspects?
spies4Candy (1:52:50 AM): Yeah
spies4kip (1:53:00 AM): truman and masaki
spies4kip (1:53:02 AM): a beetle
spies4kip (1:53:17 AM): and a brick wall
spies4kip (1:53:22 AM): the rest ill keep quiet
spies4kip (1:53:30 AM):
spies4Candy (1:53:53 AM): A brick wall?
spies4kip (1:53:56 AM): cuz they're like talking to a brick wall >_>
spies4Candy (1:53:59 AM): Talking to ...
spies4Candy (1:54:04 AM): Not me
spies4kip (1:54:08 AM): really gets you no where
spies4Candy (1:54:09 AM): I'm going to guess Abrams
spies4Candy (1:54:10 AM): Meh
spies4Candy (1:54:10 AM): Eh
spies4kip (1:54:13 AM): haha not you
spies4Candy (1:54:12 AM): Blargh
spies4kip (1:54:52 AM): hannah, though shes lowwwwwwwww on the list
spies4Candy (1:55:00 AM): I suspected her
spies4Candy (1:55:05 AM): Almost voted her in episode 2
spies4kip (1:55:12 AM): every time before tonight its been hard talking to her
spies4Candy (1:55:11 AM): I switched to Jeremiah at the last minute
spies4Candy (1:55:31 AM): I had immunity that round but he was all like "I so wish Candy wasn't immune so I could vote for her"
spies4Candy (1:55:46 AM): And I knew Madison was getting majority anyway
spies4Candy (1:55:52 AM): So I switched to Jeremiah to be like "Fuck you"
spies4kip (1:56:02 AM): hahaha
spies4Candy (1:56:10 AM): Then in episode 3 when Jeremiah went bezerk, we joined forces
spies4Candy (1:56:27 AM): Her nickname is Pudgette by the way
spies4kip (1:56:35 AM): why
spies4kip (1:56:38 AM): i never got that
spies4Candy (1:56:46 AM): Because Bev was all like "UR SO FAT N PUDGY"
spies4Candy (1:57:16 AM): I can't talk about this without laughing
spies4Candy (1:57:29 AM): Bev said the dumbest shit to her
spies4kip (1:57:39 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:57:44 AM): i hate hate hate her picture
spies4Candy (1:57:49 AM): Bev hate hate hated her picture too
spies4kip (1:58:01 AM): it drives me crazy
spies4kip (1:58:04 AM): *shudder*
spies4Candy (1:58:15 AM): Did you know that in episode 1 Bev made a Beautiful People club?
spies4Candy (1:58:27 AM): Pudgette wasn't invited
spies4kip (1:58:37 AM): SHOCK
spies4Candy (1:58:35 AM): HOTTIE CLUB
spies4Candy (1:58:36 AM): That was it
spies4kip (1:58:39 AM): SHOCK
spies4kip (1:58:40 AM): SHOCK
spies4kip (1:58:48 AM): im shocked she missed out
spies4Candy (1:58:47 AM): YOU ARE INVITED!

spies4Candy (1:58:52 AM): BECAUSE YOU ARE HOT
spies4kip (1:58:55 AM): doubtful
spies4kip (1:58:57 AM): kip is ugly
spies4Candy (1:58:56 AM): WE ARE A GROUP OF GOOD LOOKING PEOPLE
spies4Candy (1:59:01 AM): WHO HANG OUT AND GOSSIP
spies4Candy (1:59:04 AM): AND PARTY A LOT

spies4Candy (1:59:08 AM): HAHA
spies4kip (1:59:11 AM): in real life im hott though
spies4kip (1:59:13 AM): with two ts
spies4Candy (1:59:13 AM): Yeah right
spies4Candy (1:59:13 AM): FIRST MEETING TONIGHT AROUND 10 CDT
spies4kip (1:59:18 AM):
spies4Candy (1:59:17 AM): BE THERE ITS A MAKE OUT PARTY
spies4Candy (1:59:21 AM): WE WILL ARRANGE DATES THERE
spies4kip (1:59:24 AM): oh!
spies4kip (1:59:29 AM): ill be there
spies4Candy (1:59:28 AM): Too funny
spies4kip (1:59:31 AM): making out?
spies4kip (1:59:35 AM): GIRLS!?!!?!?!?!
spies4kip (1:59:41 AM): never seen that combo
spies4kip (1:59:52 AM): i spend all my saturday nights reading comics and playing D&D
spies4Candy (1:59:54 AM): HAHA
spies4Candy (1:59:59 AM): ...
spies4Candy (2:00:03 AM): For real?
spies4kip (2:00:12 AM): im in character
spies4kip (2:00:16 AM): thats how i picture kip
spies4Candy (2:00:17 AM): HAHA
spies4kip (2:00:23 AM): an overweight nerd
spies4kip (2:00:27 AM): who plays WOW and D&D
spies4Candy (2:00:30 AM): And doesn't cut his hair
spies4kip (2:00:37 AM): well duh
spies4kip (2:00:45 AM): he never leaves his parents basement
spies4kip (2:00:55 AM): hes 40 as well
spies4kip (2:00:57 AM): cant forget that
spies4Candy (2:01:02 AM): Yeah well that didn't stop Bev from inviting Lloyd to the HOTTIE CLUB
spies4kip (2:01:09 AM): UH
spies4kip (2:01:10 AM): UH
spies4kip (2:01:12 AM): UH
spies4kip (2:01:13 AM): UH
spies4Candy (2:01:15 AM): HAHA
spies4kip (2:01:24 AM): lip ring lloyd?
spies4Candy (2:01:31 AM): She invited Gordy, Lloyd, Leon, Jeremiah, Faizah, Madison, Ralph and Emma
spies4Candy (2:01:32 AM): And me
spies4Candy (2:01:42 AM): She didn't invite Naomi because she was JEALOUS
spies4kip (2:01:50 AM): makes since
spies4Candy (2:01:56 AM): Jealous that Naomi won the tiebreaker
spies4Candy (2:02:00 AM): It was earlier that night
spies4kip (2:02:12 AM): yeah
spies4kip (2:02:17 AM): naomi cant join anyway
spies4Candy (2:02:16 AM): Jeremiah was like
spies4Candy (2:02:19 AM): "I don't have time for this!"
spies4Candy (2:02:21 AM): And left
spies4kip (2:02:29 AM): rofl
spies4Candy (2:02:39 AM): Lloyd was like "I'm the most horny person on the planet and I will harass all the guys to make out with me"
spies4kip (2:03:09 AM): whew
spies4kip (2:03:12 AM): so glad i missed it
spies4Candy (2:03:20 AM): Emma was like "tee hee hi im emma!!!"
spies4kip (2:03:30 AM): that tramp
spies4kip (2:03:34 AM): she said i was the only one
spies4Candy (2:03:33 AM): *spy tramp
spies4kip (2:03:47 AM): yes spy tramp
spies4Candy (2:05:29 AM): And you want this to go into December
spies4Candy (2:05:33 AM): See why I think you're nuts?
spies4kip (2:05:39 AM): no i just like december
spies4kip (2:05:46 AM): id rather win in 3 rounds
spies4Candy (2:06:45 AM): Same
spies4Candy (2:06:52 AM): OK you know what?
spies4kip (2:06:58 AM): some like nuts
spies4Candy (2:06:57 AM): That's another thing that's been bothering me about Cain
spies4kip (2:06:59 AM): some dont
spies4Candy (2:07:04 AM): Sam was projecting how late it would go
spies4kip (2:07:11 AM): he was?
spies4Candy (2:07:10 AM): And he did say December
spies4Candy (2:07:12 AM): Yeah in IM to me
spies4kip (2:07:16 AM): really...
spies4Candy (2:07:22 AM): And I was like "WTF why don't you think we'll get it in the next 3 rounds?"
spies4kip (2:07:25 AM): lol i wouldnt take that litterally
spies4Candy (2:07:32 AM): I know
spies4Candy (2:07:34 AM): It just threw me for a loop
spies4kip (2:09:43 AM): yeah
spies4Candy (2:09:58 AM): Thanksgiving break and all
spies4kip (2:10:12 AM): oh true
spies4kip (2:10:16 AM): he'll prolly break
spies4Candy (2:16:32 AM): spies4Sherri: And I cannot believe people are targeting Bev when she tries and you don't!
spies4Candy: Excuse me?
spies4Sherri: You don't even try honey dearie.
spies4kip (2:16:49 AM): wow
spies4Candy (2:16:48 AM): Funny how things change from episode 1 to episode 8
spies4Candy (2:17:46 AM): spies4Candy: I saw your post ...
spies4Candy: I forgot what it said but I read it
spies4Masaki: and...?
spies4Candy: Tell me more
spies4Masaki: how can i tell you more if you don't remember what it was i posted? i've made multiple posts.
spies4Candy: Look, if you can't remember what you wrote, how can I?
spies4kip (2:18:17 AM): lol
spies4kip (2:19:41 AM): i wish i had old chat logs?
spies4kip (2:19:43 AM):
spies4kip (2:19:46 AM): no ?
spies4kip (2:19:47 AM): lol
spies4Candy (2:19:48 AM): Make one up
spies4Candy (2:19:49 AM): Oh god
spies4kip (2:19:52 AM): hahaha
spies4Candy (2:19:57 AM): After we investigated Angelica, we all made fake Angelica quotes
spies4kip (2:20:03 AM): ><
spies4Candy (2:20:43 AM): There's a thread about it somewhere
spies4Candy (2:21:34 AM): Stuff like "don't exile me! I'm a counteragent! I investigated myself and it came up spy too!"
spies4kip (2:21:45 AM): lol
spies4Candy (2:22:52 AM): spies4Angelica (9:47:14 PM): ralph donated his power to me, I AM THE MIRROR WOMAN!!!!!! If you exile me, I AUTOMATICALLY WIN!!!!!!!!!!! Die bitchessss!!!
spies4Candy (2:23:14 AM): Faizah came up with that one
spies4Candy (2:23:15 AM): spies4.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=theburg88ajv&action=display&thread=1193170443
spies4kip (2:25:02 AM): lol
spies4Candy (2:25:37 AM): What's the best part of the game so far for you?
spies4kip (2:25:48 AM): i love it all
spies4kip (2:25:56 AM): imprisonment was fun last night though
spies4kip (2:26:01 AM): my heart was pounding
spies4Candy (2:26:34 AM): You're sick
spies4Candy (2:26:35 AM): Again
spies4Candy (2:26:45 AM): I need to come up with a Kip twisted-o-meter
spies4Candy (2:26:58 AM): From now on, you're Twisted
spies4kip (2:27:06 AM): kk
spies4Candy (2:27:41 AM): Until I come up with something better
spies4Candy (2:27:46 AM): Because that implies your opinions are twisted too
spies4Candy (2:27:49 AM): But that's not really true
spies4kip (2:30:13 AM): well my personality is
spies4kip (2:30:54 AM): ok well i think i should head to bed
spies4Candy (2:30:57 AM): Night
spies4Candy (2:30:58 AM): Keep in touch
spies4kip (2:31:02 AM): night candy
spies4Candy (2:31:03 AM): We'll probably cahnge to Cain
spies4kip (2:31:08 AM): talk to ya tomorrow night
spies4Candy (2:31:07 AM): So check your PMs
spies4kip (2:31:12 AM): unless you miss
spies4kip (2:31:19 AM): kk ill look out for them
spies4Candy (2:31:18 AM): Unless I miss what? We're getting a spy
spies4kip (2:31:25 AM): the exile
spies4Candy (2:31:27 AM): Not happening
spies4kip (2:31:29 AM): you gonna make it?
spies4Candy (2:31:29 AM): Yeah
spies4kip (2:31:34 AM): alright cool
spies4kip (2:31:36 AM): talk to ya then
spies4Candy (2:31:35 AM): But I'll PM in the afternoon probably
spies4Candy (2:31:38 AM): Bye
spies4kip (2:31:41 AM): ill be here
spies4kip (2:31:43 AM): prolly
spies4kip (2:31:46 AM): on and off

[Kip]

Candy

spies4kip (2:46:01 PM): Candy
spies4Candy (2:46:06 PM): Kip
spies4kip (2:46:15 PM): how are things?
spies4Candy (2:46:18 PM): Good
spies4Candy (2:46:20 PM): Check your PMs
spies4kip (2:46:39 PM): did u just send it?
spies4Candy (2:46:57 PM): 2 seconds ago
spies4kip (2:47:03 PM): i see
spies4kip (2:47:11 PM): cuz i literally checked right before i IMed you haha
spies4kip (2:47:44 PM): k, so cain it is
spies4Candy (2:48:02 PM): Yep
spies4kip (2:48:06 PM): im happy we can finally figure out if the trads are gone or not
spies4kip (2:49:07 PM): and glad im not the only person who wanted cain to go tonight
spies4Candy (2:49:43 PM): Nearly everyone did
spies4Candy (2:49:50 PM): Who am I to argue with such a majority?
spies4kip (2:50:57 PM): *shurg*
spies4kip (2:51:18 PM): you wanted him out to though, so its not like you arent exiling someone you suspect
spies4Candy (2:51:20 PM): Exactly
spies4Candy (2:51:27 PM): I can't lose in this situation
spies4kip (2:51:36 PM): yeah
spies4kip (2:51:51 PM): and next time, we can go for masaki
spies4Candy (2:51:55 PM): Good
spies4kip (2:52:15 PM): unless someone really messes up, or some new information pops up
spies4Candy (2:52:34 PM): I don't see that happening
spies4kip (2:52:52 PM): it'll be tough to top what we have
spies4Candy (2:52:54 PM): Exactly
spies4Candy (2:53:05 PM): This better work
spies4kip (2:53:15 PM): maybe someone wins an investigation though, who knows
spies4kip (2:53:20 PM): what better work?
spies4Candy (2:53:18 PM): HAHA
spies4kip (2:53:22 PM): cain going?
spies4Candy (2:53:21 PM): Let's not rely on investigations
spies4kip (2:53:28 PM): haha im not
spies4Candy (2:53:28 PM): Let's do this the hard way with dirt and swear
spies4Candy (2:53:29 PM): sweat
spies4Candy (2:53:32 PM): I won't sweat though
spies4Candy (2:53:34 PM): Or go through dirt
spies4kip (2:53:40 PM): i swear
spies4Candy (2:53:40 PM): That's why I have 8 personal assistants
spies4kip (2:53:55 PM): which one am i
spies4Candy (2:54:30 PM): You looking for a job?
spies4kip (2:54:43 PM): if the pay is right
spies4kip (2:54:46 PM): and the perks
spies4Candy (2:54:44 PM): I already have 2 geeky tech guys
spies4Candy (2:54:48 PM): What else can you do?
spies4kip (2:54:57 PM): you'd be surprised
spies4kip (2:56:25 PM): so does everyone start popping up a few hours before exile?
spies4kip (2:56:32 PM): or just before?
spies4Candy (2:56:50 PM): I'm like never around before
spies4Candy (2:56:57 PM): It should be more busy than this though
spies4Candy (2:57:02 PM): Don't know!
spies4kip (2:57:44 PM): yeah i kno
spies4kip (2:57:50 PM): cuz im leaving in an hour
spies4kip (2:57:55 PM): til like 7cst
spies4Candy (2:57:59 PM): Plenty of time
spies4kip (2:58:05 PM): yeah
spies4Candy (2:58:04 PM): We're not on till 9:30 tonight
spies4kip (2:58:11 PM): yep
spies4kip (2:58:22 PM): i try and get on as much as possible though
spies4kip (2:58:34 PM): seems others dont really care to talk on AIM more than they have too
spies4kip (2:58:36 PM): which is a shame
spies4Candy (2:58:38 PM): I know
spies4Candy (2:58:49 PM): Like Damon ... Bunni ... Leon ...
spies4kip (2:58:58 PM): inactivity helps spies
spies4Candy (2:59:13 PM): Definitely
spies4Candy (2:59:16 PM): It means their votes are up for grabs
spies4kip (2:59:20 PM): the less talk, the less people involved
spies4kip (3:02:31 PM): so what happens with neither masaki or cain are spies...
spies4Candy (3:03:08 PM): Ugh
spies4Candy (3:03:15 PM): Good question
spies4kip (3:03:19 PM): dont even want to think about it lol
spies4Candy (3:03:22 PM): Basically yeah
spies4kip (3:03:39 PM): we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
spies4kip (3:03:57 PM): and he odds are against that happening regardless
spies4kip (3:06:46 PM): ok well im off, ill be back and forth for the next hour or so, but after that, not until 8est-ish
spies4Candy (3:06:57 PM): Sorry Kip
spies4Candy (3:06:59 PM): I'm thinking
spies4Candy (3:07:01 PM): I'll talk to you later
spies4kip (3:07:06 PM): alright
spies4kip (3:07:08 PM): take care
spies4kip (3:07:23 PM): and dont to hard to fast, headaches suck
spies4Candy (3:07:28 PM): HAHA
spies4kip (3:07:31 PM): dont think to hard to fast*
spies4Candy (3:07:32 PM): Tooooo
spies4kip (3:07:43 PM): get over it
spies4kip (3:07:48 PM): later

[Kip]

Masaki

spies4kip (2:47:28 PM): hello masaki
spies4Masaki (2:47:33 PM): Hey Kip
spies4kip (2:47:40 PM): whats happening?
spies4Masaki (2:48:21 PM): Not much right now
spies4Masaki (2:48:33 PM): Spoke to Damon today, that was about it
spies4kip (2:48:45 PM): i always seem to miss him
spies4Masaki (2:49:27 PM): He's on very rarely
spies4kip (2:51:26 PM): yeah
spies4kip (2:51:30 PM): usually for the big events
spies4kip (2:54:08 PM): looking more like cain for tonight
spies4Masaki (2:56:36 PM): For exile?
spies4Masaki (2:56:38 PM): Seems so
spies4kip (2:56:42 PM): yeah
spies4Masaki (2:56:55 PM): I hope for my sake he's the last Trad
spies4Masaki (2:57:11 PM): If not him, though, then who?
spies4kip (2:57:16 PM): itd be a beautiful thing if he was
spies4kip (2:57:32 PM): if not him, i dunno, but at least now we kno its another (if hes not it)
spies4kip (3:02:04 PM): could very well be a less active player
spies4kip (3:02:09 PM): which would suck so much
spies4Masaki (3:02:15 PM): I know
spies4Masaki (3:02:17 PM): Grr
spies4Masaki (3:02:24 PM): I don't think it's Abrams though
spies4kip (3:02:35 PM): same
spies4kip (3:06:51 PM): well i gtg for now
spies4Masaki (3:06:55 PM): Alright
spies4kip (3:06:59 PM): back in a couple hours
spies4Masaki (3:07:00 PM): Alright, take care

[Kip]

Singe

spies4Singe (9:04:01 PM): hey kip, settled on your vote for tonight?
spies4kip (9:04:10 PM): pretty much
spies4Singe (9:04:42 PM): who ya voting for?
spies4kip (9:04:50 PM): right now, cain
spies4kip (9:04:58 PM): but im open to discussion
spies4kip (9:05:06 PM): i kno you dont plan on voting him
spies4Singe (9:05:08 PM): it's looking like cain wins tonight
spies4Singe (9:05:25 PM): or loses
spies4kip (9:05:39 PM): i dunno how everyone feels, but from what ive heard it'll prolly be him, yeah
spies4Singe (9:05:48 PM): you gotta vote your conscience
spies4kip (9:06:01 PM): i wanted to vote him last round, over naomi
spies4Singe (9:05:59 PM): what makes him your top banana?
spies4kip (9:06:13 PM): well its a few things
spies4kip (9:06:25 PM): first, im like 90% certain he's the trad
spies4kip (9:06:35 PM): and i want to see some reactions to his vote
spies4kip (9:06:49 PM): cuz i know some people wanted masaki but are "settleing" on cain
spies4kip (9:07:01 PM): even though theyve told me they wanted cain out "for a long time"
spies4kip (9:07:20 PM): mainly candy
spies4kip (9:08:01 PM): shes been vocal to me on cain having to go for two rounds now, but last night shes saying she may not vote him, and that she'll vote him if everyone wants to, etc
spies4kip (9:08:07 PM): none of which she ever posts
spies4Singe (9:08:33 PM): so you think candy's being weird too
spies4Singe (9:08:33 PM): so you think candy's being weird too
spies4kip (9:08:41 PM): yea
spies4kip (9:08:50 PM): shes been weird for the past couple days
spies4kip (9:08:58 PM): well... more weird
spies4Singe (9:09:41 PM): very
spies4Singe (9:09:48 PM): she was super defensive with me today
spies4kip (9:09:51 PM): and my other reason for cain tonight
spies4kip (9:10:01 PM): we need to know if he's the trad or not
spies4kip (9:10:06 PM): a lot of people think he is
spies4kip (9:10:09 PM): but some want others out
spies4kip (9:10:13 PM): which is bad
spies4kip (9:10:27 PM): if people thik its hi we gotta vote him, otherwise we're screwed later if we're wrong
spies4kip (9:10:59 PM): cuz some wont look at others to be it, until cain goes, and is shown to be a cit, we cant afford to be blind to the trad if its not cain
spies4Singe (9:11:14 PM): who's your #2 choice then?
spies4kip (9:11:40 PM): for exile tonight?
spies4Singe (9:11:42 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:11:48 PM): im not sure
spies4kip (9:11:58 PM): i have a few suspects but none of which i really want to vote now
spies4kip (9:12:06 PM): hannah candy and leon though
spies4Singe (9:12:32 PM): plane boarding, take care
spies4kip (9:12:37 PM): hannah is prolly safe, but we clash, its prolly more of a biased suspicion than a good one
spies4kip (9:14:30 PM): alright take care singe

[Kip]

Zander

spies4kip (9:05:43 PM): hey zander
spies4Zander (9:06:41 PM): hey
spies4kip (9:07:06 PM): whats up?
spies4Zander (9:07:59 PM): not too much
spies4kip (9:08:27 PM): same here basically, just exile chats and what not
spies4kip (9:09:08 PM): still planning on voting masaki?
spies4Zander (9:09:19 PM): yup
spies4kip (9:09:27 PM): thought so
spies4kip (9:09:41 PM): im open to him for next exile... but tonight im voting cain
spies4Zander (9:10:50 PM): Another one.
spies4Zander (9:10:58 PM): If Cain is a spy, then I concede and y'all are amazing
spies4Zander (9:11:19 PM): But I think it's a setup... I really, really do.
spies4kip (9:11:23 PM): theres more to it for me as well
spies4kip (9:13:00 PM): which is, the longer cain stays the worse off we are
spies4kip (9:13:18 PM): if hes not the trad and he stays, then we're blind to the real one, especially if it isnt masaki
spies4kip (9:13:30 PM): cuz a lot of people wrote cain off as the trad
spies4Zander (9:13:28 PM): ...
spies4kip (9:13:39 PM): so we have to kno what he is
spies4kip (9:13:49 PM): we need to kno if we were wrong and have to look deeper
spies4kip (9:14:00 PM): and if he is the trad (which is ithnk he is)
spies4Zander (9:14:03 PM): I already think I do know what he is - Ortho or, the one I'm kinda leaning to after talking to everyone this week, SETUP CITIZEN
spies4kip (9:14:12 PM): then we can focus on imprisonments revealing more information
spies4Zander (9:14:40 PM): I dunno, I respect your ideas and you could be just as right as I am. And if I'm right I'm not going to run around like a moron and say it, but my gut just tells me this is all wrong...
spies4kip (9:14:52 PM): and yeah, it could be a setup
spies4kip (9:14:57 PM): which we also need to kno
spies4kip (9:15:03 PM): so we can pinpoint who set him up
spies4Zander (9:15:29 PM): I'm still getting too personally involved in this game. I hate seeing things go against people I think are innocent. No Cain's not the best person but he's earned his place here more than a couple other people and if he is a citizen then this SUCKS. Then masaki weaseled his way out like he wanted. And I won't stop til I get him out, because I just know he's a spy.
spies4kip (9:15:54 PM): he very well could be
spies4kip (9:16:09 PM): hes on my suspect list
spies4kip (9:16:14 PM): not as high as cain though
spies4Zander (9:16:16 PM): I'm just tired of everyone saying "Oh Zander I think Masaki is a suspect too but I'd rather bandwagon this week"
spies4Zander (9:16:22 PM): nothing against you...
spies4Zander (9:16:28 PM): *Sigh...* I'm gonna take a break until exile
spies4Zander (9:16:33 PM): I'll see you there, right?
spies4kip (9:16:40 PM): if cain isnt a spy, im more than willing to vote masaki next time
spies4kip (9:16:49 PM): just right now, i have to kno
spies4Zander (9:16:54 PM): I respect that.
spies4kip (9:17:01 PM): i have some thoeries cooking, but they depend on the results
spies4kip (9:17:09 PM): and the actions others take regarding them
spies4Zander (9:17:11 PM): You vote for who you need to vote for. That's much more respectable than voting for who you think other people want you to vote for.
spies4Zander (9:17:39 PM): And since I feel the most evidence is on Masaki (Particularly because I've been following him all game), I have to vote for him.
spies4Zander (9:17:48 PM): I'll see you later
spies4kip (9:18:03 PM): ttyl
spies4kip (9:18:09 PM): and vote for your suspicions
spies4kip (9:18:19 PM): i dont fault you for suspecting masaki over cain
spies4Zander went away at 9:18:25 PM.

[Kip]

Masaki

spies4kip (9:18:27 PM): hey
spies4Masaki (9:31:57 PM): Hey
spies4kip (9:32:05 PM): whats up
spies4Masaki (9:32:53 PM): Well right now I'm checking the Burg
spies4Masaki (9:32:55 PM): You?
spies4kip (9:33:09 PM): i was just chatting about exile
spies4kip (9:34:34 PM): anything good in the burg?
spies4Masaki (9:35:12 PM): Not really
spies4kip (9:35:23 PM): lol
spies4kip (9:36:20 PM): doesnt surprise me
spies4kip (9:36:29 PM): though its kinda sad
spies4kip (9:40:09 PM): under an hour
spies4Masaki (9:41:23 PM): Yep
spies4Masaki signed off at 10:10:45 PM.

[Kip]

Leon

spies4kip (9:08:32 PM): hey leon
spies4Leon (9:08:34 PM): Heya Kip
spies4kip (9:09:13 PM): whats up?
spies4Leon (9:10:03 PM): Nothin much, hungry
spies4Leon (9:10:13 PM): sweeeeeet, cookies
spies4kip (9:11:12 PM): cool
spies4kip (9:11:14 PM): i want sme
spies4Leon (9:11:20 PM): no
spies4Leon (9:11:23 PM): miyan
spies4kip (9:11:30 PM):
spies4Leon (9:12:13 PM):
spies4kip (9:14:25 PM): ill just get my own then
spies4Leon (9:15:01 PM):
spies4kip (9:15:10 PM): haha
spies4kip (9:15:15 PM): so exile tonight, you ready?
spies4Leon (9:15:31 PM): mmhmm
spies4kip (9:16:20 PM): who you voting for?
spies4Leon (9:16:53 PM): Mistaki
spies4kip (9:17:31 PM): really?
spies4Leon (9:17:34 PM): yeah, why?
spies4kip (9:17:47 PM): im voting cain
spies4kip (9:17:50 PM): any reason why masaki?
spies4Leon (9:18:22 PM): becuz i cant vote Cain
spies4kip (9:18:37 PM): oh, families
spies4Leon (9:18:35 PM): and Zander's case against him is extremly 100% right
spies4Leon (9:18:53 PM): and Masaki went into uber-defense mode as soon as Zander posted his thing
spies4kip (9:18:58 PM): it could be right
spies4Leon (9:19:02 PM): never went offline for 2 days now
spies4kip (9:19:10 PM): masaki is always on
spies4Leon (9:19:08 PM): think about it
spies4Leon (9:19:10 PM): Last round
spies4Leon (9:19:24 PM): "We cant get rid of Cain, he's probably a cit"
spies4Leon (9:19:31 PM): This round now that he's a target
spies4Leon (9:19:40 PM): "CAIN'S A SPY, WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HIM, NOW!"
spies4kip (9:19:54 PM): masaki said cain was a cit?
spies4Leon (9:20:09 PM): thats what Zander said
spies4Leon (9:20:25 PM): After I posted my 2 cents in Zander's thread, Masaki instantly tried to persuade me to vote Cain
spies4kip (9:20:34 PM): i thought masaki was the one with the idea of keeping cain to hunt orthos
spies4Leon (9:20:34 PM): it worked, but unfortunatly for families, i cant
spies4kip (9:20:40 PM): cuz he was the trad
spies4Leon (9:20:44 PM): hmm, well idk
spies4Leon (9:20:50 PM): I just listened to what Zander said
spies4kip (9:21:18 PM): zander makes some good points, but i think he's bought into the idea that theres no other alternative
spies4kip (9:21:26 PM): i hope hes right, i really do
spies4kip (9:21:38 PM): but we wont know until he goes
spies4Leon (9:21:46 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:21:53 PM): and i think cain is more suspicious
spies4kip (9:22:00 PM): which is why im voting for him
spies4Leon (9:22:29 PM): yeah, they're both probably spies
spies4Leon (9:22:31 PM): do idc which goes
spies4Leon (9:22:52 PM): so*
spies4kip (9:23:15 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:23:26 PM): we'll find out in an hour though
spies4Leon (9:23:45 PM): yep
spies4kip (9:24:12 PM): so, aside from those two, you have any other suspicions?
spies4Leon (9:24:22 PM): not that im too confident about yet
spies4Leon (9:24:29 PM): but Im trying to form a case aginst Faizah
spies4kip (9:24:39 PM): faizah? really? why?
spies4Leon (9:24:45 PM): During the first 2 rounds
spies4Leon (9:24:56 PM): only 3 people voted for both Martha and Madison
spies4Leon (9:25:07 PM): 1 was Angelica, who was a Orthodox spy
spies4Leon (9:25:20 PM): the other 2
spies4Leon (9:25:24 PM): were Hannah and Faizah
spies4Leon (9:25:32 PM): wait lemme rephrase that
spies4kip (9:25:42 PM): i kno what you're saying
spies4Leon (9:25:41 PM): *the only 2 left standing
spies4kip (9:25:49 PM): faizah and hannah are the last two left
spies4kip (9:25:51 PM): taht did
spies4kip (9:25:57 PM): ive noticed that as well
spies4Leon (9:25:59 PM): wait, no what I said before was right
spies4Leon (9:26:02 PM): only those 3
spies4kip (9:26:10 PM): true but angelica is gone
spies4Leon (9:26:10 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:26:15 PM): so only hannah and faizah remain
spies4Leon (9:26:18 PM): and during Round 3.2
spies4Leon (9:26:26 PM): Faizah and Angelica voted together
spies4kip (9:26:30 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (9:26:36 PM): now, this part's highly unlikely
spies4Leon (9:26:47 PM): but as we saw from last season its possible to just not vote
spies4Leon (9:26:55 PM): now when Beverly was exiled
spies4Leon (9:27:02 PM): for some reason Naomi didnt vote for her
spies4Leon (9:27:08 PM): they were both Trad Spies
spies4kip (9:27:12 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (9:27:13 PM): when Angelica was exiled
spies4Leon (9:27:18 PM): Faizah didnt vote for her
spies4kip (9:27:26 PM): faizah didnt vote
spies4kip (9:27:28 PM): atall
spies4Leon (9:27:28 PM): she was online most of that round, just not the exile
spies4Leon (9:27:35 PM): yes, but whats easier to explain
spies4kip (9:27:42 PM): she prolly forgot, im sure she'd have voted angelica tohugh
spies4Leon (9:27:42 PM): a self-vote, or a stary-vote
spies4kip (9:27:44 PM): only johan didnt
spies4kip (9:27:46 PM): cuz he couldnt
spies4Leon (9:27:45 PM): stray*
spies4Leon (9:27:52 PM): well yes
spies4Leon (9:27:58 PM): but she easily couldve taken the self-vote
spies4kip (9:28:02 PM): but continue
spies4Leon (9:28:04 PM): for an easy cover
spies4Leon (9:28:08 PM): "oh I forgot, sorry"
spies4Leon (9:28:11 PM): all she needed to say
spies4Leon (9:28:15 PM): where if she strayed
spies4Leon (9:28:17 PM): we'd be like
spies4Leon (9:28:24 PM): "Why didnt you vote her?"!!!!
spies4kip (9:28:35 PM): but that means the other ortho did vote angelica, unless its johan
spies4Leon (9:28:45 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:29:02 PM): and i dont think naomi vote bev for the reasons other people said
spies4kip (9:29:07 PM): bev was popular and had a following
spies4kip (9:29:13 PM): she was able to talk people out of it
spies4Leon (9:29:19 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:29:23 PM): the trads prolly wants to sacrifice naomi
spies4kip (9:29:33 PM): didnt work
spies4Leon (9:29:31 PM): like I said, that last part was farfetched
spies4Leon (9:29:40 PM): and im still trying to form a better case
spies4kip (9:29:47 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:29:53 PM): at least you're thinking
spies4kip (9:29:57 PM): unlike some players
spies4Leon (9:30:02 PM): oh btw
spies4Leon (9:30:25 PM): was it you or Kip v1.0 who voted for me?
spies4kip (9:30:32 PM): old kip
spies4kip (9:30:36 PM): i came in after that exile
spies4Leon (9:30:35 PM): could you check his confessional
spies4Leon (9:30:37 PM): and tell me why?
spies4kip (9:30:41 PM): for reasons?
spies4kip (9:30:42 PM): sure
spies4kip (9:30:43 PM): one sec
spies4Leon (9:30:40 PM): yes
spies4Leon (9:30:43 PM): thanks
spies4kip (9:31:10 PM): "I'll Vote Leon to avoid getting a barage of self votes and hampering the exile in any manner."
spies4Leon (9:31:25 PM): lol
spies4kip (9:31:30 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (9:31:36 PM): so basically a trash vote
spies4kip (9:31:49 PM): yeah looks like it
spies4kip (9:32:15 PM): he didnt post much of anything for me to reference
spies4kip (9:32:18 PM): it sucks
spies4Leon (9:32:25 PM): yeah, i see why he went inactive
spies4kip (9:32:58 PM): whatever, at least i got to play
spies4Leon (9:33:06 PM): lol yeah
spies4kip (9:33:50 PM): its a fun game
spies4Leon (9:33:56 PM): very

[Kip]

Faizah

spies4kip (9:55:01 PM): hello faizah
spies4Faizah (9:55:04 PM): Hello!
spies4kip (9:55:12 PM): how are things?
spies4Faizah (9:55:17 PM): Pretty good!
spies4Faizah (9:55:17 PM): you?
spies4kip (9:55:29 PM): good, just waiting on exile
spies4kip (9:55:32 PM): 30 minutes about
spies4kip (9:56:18 PM): you ready?
spies4Faizah (9:56:27 PM): I guess!
spies4Faizah (9:56:31 PM): ready as one can ever be!
spies4Faizah (9:56:35 PM): I think it will be Cain
spies4kip (9:56:41 PM): as do i
spies4kip (9:56:51 PM): that is who i voted for
spies4kip (9:58:48 PM): i hope hes a spy
spies4Faizah (9:59:53 PM): I know it is weird
spies4Faizah (9:59:58 PM): but if he isnt, I think Masaki is.
spies4kip (10:00:06 PM): yeah
spies4Faizah (10:00:06 PM): Masaki still could be...but DEF if Cain isnt.
spies4kip (10:00:14 PM): uh huh
spies4kip (10:01:01 PM): so masaki better pray he is a spy
spies4kip (10:01:09 PM): cuz he's in hot water if cains a citizen

[Kip]

Summer

spies4Summer (10:24:22 PM): Hi Kip
spies4kip (10:24:29 PM): hey summer
spies4kip (10:24:33 PM): i didnt see you sign on
spies4Summer (10:24:33 PM): Here I am
spies4kip (10:24:36 PM): too many people
spies4Summer (10:24:40 PM): Isn't it great?
spies4kip (10:24:50 PM): its amazing
spies4kip (10:24:56 PM): everyone comes out of hiding to exile someone
spies4kip (10:25:03 PM): and then they all disappear
spies4Summer (10:25:34 PM): Well I expect a lot of conversation after tonight's exile
spies4Summer (10:25:41 PM): If Cain's a spy, lots of celebrating
spies4Summer (10:25:44 PM): And if he isn't, lots of accusations
spies4kip (10:26:02 PM): yea
spies4kip (10:26:04 PM): agreed
spies4kip (10:26:10 PM): hopefully everyone sticks around
spies4kip (10:29:22 PM): 40 seconds...
spies4kip (10:29:23 PM): on the timer
spies4Summer (10:29:26 PM): Butterflies
spies4kip (10:29:36 PM): same
spies4kip (10:29:51 PM): 10!
spies4kip (10:29:53 PM): 9...
spies4kip (10:29:54 PM): 8..
spies4kip (10:29:56 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:30:02 PM): Oh no don't
spies4kip (10:30:05 PM): BOOM@
spies4kip (10:30:14 PM): the burg exploded