Day 9 - Conversations

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: Hello Brother
spies4kip: hey damon
spies4Damon: It's such a relief to trust someone haha
spies4kip: yeah it is
spies4kip: so many shady people in the game
spies4Damon: Too many if you ask me.
spies4kip: i enjoyed your observations
spies4Damon: I'm just getting to read your's now.
spies4Damon: I hope they weren't too dry, lol
spies4kip: nah
spies4kip: a lot of mine was dependent on cain being a trad
spies4Damon: It was just so bizarre that he didn't defend himself.
spies4kip: it was
spies4kip: and there was a lot stacked against him
spies4Damon: Just really unnatural that he woldn't fight. I say that it was his fault he left because he couldn't defended so much there and just didn't bother.
spies4Damon: If I go I know I've given the best defense I possibly could.
spies4kip: i dont think you need to worry about exile this round
spies4kip: looks to be between leon and masaki at the moment
spies4kip: there was a big chat last night
spies4Damon: That I missed of course. Another tid bit I'm trusting you with - I'm on European time.
spies4kip: ah
spies4Damon: Everything makes a lot more sense now?
spies4kip: yeah
spies4kip: shows why you dont pop onto AIM much
spies4Damon: I need to do my stupid interviews soon too.
spies4Damon: When I am on no one else is! lol
spies4kip: lol i do too
spies4kip: i have no idea what to ask
spies4Damon: Me either. I'm just going to come up with a string of questions for Candy about the game and about the accusation that she's a Spy - I doubt she'll answer them anyways. Look at the way she dodges the ones I brought up against her in the Kool-Aid thread?
spies4kip: yeah
spies4kip: most of the time she doesnt even respond
spies4kip: she lets her rats do it or her
spies4kip: im sick of the "holier than thou" attitude she has, and how half the people here bow to her
spies4Damon: Isn't it disgusting?
spies4Damon: That's what bugs me the most.
spies4kip: if shes a citizen, good, but people need to think independtly
spies4kip: cuz if shes a cit, she will be imprisoned
spies4Damon: I'm tired of the Kool-Aid, Cliques and Gospel that is Candy.
spies4Damon: She sent m a nasty PM when I asked her when wold be good to do the interviews.
spies4Damon: In it she's like "oh yo uwant that time to make sure I get it done before you imprison me, right?".
spies4kip: so she thinks your the trad now?
spies4Damon: I think so.
spies4kip: funny how she convienently picks a new target after people thnk its one person
spies4Damon: Who knows with her though? Honestly
spies4kip: the second everyone suspect cain, she threw masakis name around
spies4kip: andh how its prolly not cain
spies4Damon: She's been smelling something funky ever since Jeremiah. What disturbs me is that no one is looking at her but us.
spies4kip: i kno others are looking at her too
spies4kip: masaki obviously
spies4kip: bunni a bit
spies4kip: and singe kinda
spies4kip: but singe is all over, and wants leon now
spies4Damon: I never know what to make of Singe, as I'm sure yo ucan tell, lol. But more lately than not he looks scummy.
spies4kip: its very possible
spies4kip: right now hes off my radar kinda
spies4Damon: WOW. The bit about Zander/Candy and that topic totally blew my mind.
spies4Damon: If she is a Cit I'll honestly be surprised.
spies4kip: its just so weird
spies4kip: cuz the day before the last imp she was running around
spies4kip: here lemme show chat logs
spies4Damon: I'm not afraid of the Imp - I don't think any Exile targets ought to be - it would be dumb of the Spies to imprison someone who'll likely get voted out lol
spies4Damon: Sure
spies4kip: sigh cant find which chat it was lol one sec
spies4Damon: I can wait.
spies4kip: spies4Candy (1:17:02 AM): So I'm really worried about imprisonment
spies4Candy (1:17:16 AM): Right now I've got this group of peole I trust for various reasons
spies4Candy (1:17:25 AM): None of them know about each other
spies4kip: spies4Candy (1:17:43 AM): Because of what you had to say about Kip 1, you're in that group
spies4Candy (1:17:54 AM): I'm worried that if I leave, you guys won't have someone to subtly unite you
spies4Candy (1:18:20 AM): One of you is also a fairly large exile target
spies4kip: spies4Candy (1:18:51 AM): I'm trying to concoct some sort of plan to bring you guys together in case I do get imprisoned
spies4kip (1:19:00 AM): ok
spies4Candy (1:19:01 AM): Because it's a large enough voting block that you'd be sure to hit the spies
spies4Candy (1:19:09 AM): But I also dont' want to blow anyone's cover in case I'm not impriosned
spies4kip: she went on about how she wanted to PM everyone in teh group some info
spies4kip: she never did
spies4Damon: There's no need for unification. That's like an alliance strategy and it's bullshit in a game of Spies. If you want my opinion.
spies4kip: yeah i agree
spies4kip: which is why i just go along with her, but i dont buy into it
spies4kip: this part is really fishy
spies4kip: spies4Candy (1:23:51 AM): That's one big reason why Cain has to be exiled next - so we can figure that out
spies4Candy (1:24:00 AM): If Cain isn't the traditionalist spy, we need to know ASAP
spies4Damon: Survivor strategy? LOL
spies4kip: cuz the next day she sent a PM to everyone saying Masaki needed to go
spies4Damon: About going along with it - because how do you say no?
spies4kip: how she can flip from CAIN HAVING TO GO to masaki being a guarenteed spy in 5 minutes, i dunno
spies4kip: then after she tells me about masaki, zander makes a topic
spies4Damon: Scummy behaviour but no one will look at her?
spies4kip: cuz she never posts that stuff
spies4kip: its all in AIM
spies4kip: and her pets all vow not to talk to others about it
spies4kip: so no one knows
spies4Damon: That's what I don't ;like about this mix of AIM/Board Spies. Too much shadow shit.
spies4Damon: Why did she change so suddenly from Masaki? It's weird.
spies4kip: dunno
spies4kip: spies4Candy (1:57:33 AM): I need you to talk to Mistaki this episode and try to figure out what he's up to
spies4Candy (1:57:39 AM): Without letting on that I suspect him
spies4Damon: Is that what you're doing now?
spies4kip: no
spies4kip: i told him what she told me lol
spies4Damon: LOL
spies4Damon: Her strategy seems off, you know?
spies4kip: yeah
spies4Damon: What I don't understand is the sudden group effort to draw me into posting more? Wy not againgst Faizah, or Abrams or any of the other "quiet" types?
spies4kip: cuz she doesnt like you prolly
spies4kip: also, when candy mentions inactives, she mentions you leon and bunni
spies4kip: not faizah, not abrams...
spies4Damon: They're even LESS active than us!
spies4kip: i kno
spies4Damon: Let me tell you how frustrating that woman is.
spies4kip: brrb
spies4Damon: k
spies4kip: back
spies4Damon: Did Gordy IM you too?
spies4kip: just now?
spies4Damon: Yes
spies4kip: no...
spies4kip: lol
spies4Damon: I got "Ghosty Damon <3<3<3"
spies4kip: haha
spies4kip: whatd he want
spies4kip: shit, why go invisable...
spies4kip: its pointless
spies4Damon: I don't know what he wanted he just IMed me with that.
spies4Damon: And then signed off.
spies4kip: i see

spies4masaki: Hey D
spies4Damon: Hey!
spies4masaki: Setting up a chat
spies4Damon: Excellent. Sometimes Chats are funky on my computer. Let's hope it works.
spies4masaki: Workin?
spies4masaki: It says you joined
spies4Damon: Yup. IT worked!

spies4masaki: Kip
spies4masaki: Between Leon and Damon, which do you think is less of a contributer?
spies4Damon: Be honest, I won't be offended.
spies4masaki: I can answer first if you want me to :-)
spies4kip: leon
spies4Damon: That's before or after I started posting more, Kip?
spies4masaki: Thank you!
spies4masaki: I don't understand why Singe/Candy are singling Damon out
spies4masaki: I have so much on Leon right now it's not even funny
spies4kip: after
spies4kip: before i wouldnt have known who to pick
spies4kip: leon comes on when targetted, you pop in and out
spies4masaki: Right
spies4masaki: That's the difference
spies4masaki: Anyway
spies4masaki: I have no clue who's still voting me
spies4masaki: And I have no clue who's voting Damon
spies4masaki: But I think I would rather we go with Leon over anyone else
spies4masaki: That stuff Summer showed us last night really kind of emphasised it
spies4Damon: I'd rather go with Candy but Leon is a viable option too.
spies4Damon: Sorry - that blurb from my last question all come in one huge attack on my screen. A bit laggish.
spies4masaki: Yeah I was thinking Candy earlier on in the episode
spies4masaki: But I don't think so anymore
spies4kip: that chat last night really put some of leons action in the light
spies4Damon: Can you clue me in? Apologies but I'm not a night preson.
spies4kip: and id entertain candy going, but she cant go now
spies4kip: maybe later though, if we can keep gathering info on her
spies4kip: summer was showing chats of angelica ignoring ideas about voting for leon
spies4kip: and how she changed the subject a lot
spies4Damon: Really? That's helpful.
spies4masaki: Changing the subject on it
spies4Damon: I mean as information.
spies4masaki: Yea she posted it in Leon's topic
spies4kip: and failed to group him in with people he was grouped in with
spies4masaki: Leon also claims he never spoke with Angelica one time throughout the entire game
spies4Damon: Why would she need to lie?
spies4masaki: She as in Summer
spies4masaki: Leon said he never spoke with Angelica
spies4masaki: Yet Angelica seemed to subtly defend Leon
spies4Damon: No, she as in Angelica, not Summer.
spies4kip: i also noticed that every single one of leons votes were alongside beverlys
spies4kip: except for the first exile, when he couldnt vote with her, cuz of family restrictions
spies4kip: so he voted who naomi voted for
spies4masaki: What do you mean, Damon, about Angy lying?
spies4Damon: WEll that's a bit contradictory then since Angelica was on opposite sides from Bev/Naomi.
spies4kip: yeah i kno
spies4kip: its just pointing out that he could be both sides
spies4Damon: Ah shit sorry my mind is messed up at the moment. Why would Summer have to lie about Leon? I don't get it. And even if Leon says he didn't talk to Angelica do we just believe his word?
spies4masaki: No, why would Angelica lie about Leon
spies4masaki: You asked that question
spies4masaki: Not sure what you're referring to
spies4Damon: I misread your initial statement. I thought that Angelica was talking about Leon and then I realized that you mean that when talking ABOUT Leon Angelica wold change subjects. My bad.
spies4kip: ah
spies4Damon: Apologies
spies4masaki:
spies4Summer (9:30:10 PM): What are the chances Leon will go?
spies4Angelica (9:30:37 PM): Sorry, was checking the forum, lemme catch up.
spies4Angelica (9:31:11 PM): Leon who? :/
spies4masaki: spies4Gordy (9:33:48 PM): Leon's gone UTR sadly. And since the divide people will want to target the loud ones
spies4Angelica (9:35:07 PM): He was kind of loud about voting Beverly at the first Exile.
spies4Damon: That's evasive.
spies4masaki: This one bothered me more, though
spies4masaki: spies4Summer (9:38:42 PM): Leon's family could have voted Kiyoshi
spies4Summer (9:38:57 PM): But they threw their votes onto Beverly instead
spies4Angelica (9:39:05 PM): You're right! All three did!
spies4masaki: spies4Gordy (9:39:05 PM): That makes sense
spies4Summer (9:39:16 PM): So Martha was exiled
spies4Summer (9:39:20 PM): Mission accomplished
spies4Angelica (9:39:48 PM): Wow. I never thought about that.
spies4masaki: spies4Angelica (9:40:03 PM): I knew there was something about Naomi and Masaki I didn't like! Haha!
spies4Summer (9:40:35 PM): If I was in that group, I'd cast my vote for one of those 3
spies4masaki: spies4Angelica (9:41:15 PM): They're all together with Gordy. :/
spies4masaki: Ignores Leon there
spies4Damon: Again. Precisely.
spies4kip: brb guys
spies4kip: back
spies4Damon: What the hell is up with Gordy's bitchy attacks?
spies4masaki: He's weird like that
spies4kip: yeah i dont get it
spies4Damon: It's so bizarre.
spies4masaki: HE is bizarre
spies4Damon: He wasn't like this before.
spies4kip: i never noticed
spies4kip: and i though hannah disrupted the burg...
spies4kip: gordys pictures are far worse
spies4masaki: Bev
spies4masaki: Bevzilla
spies4Damon: lol
spies4masaki: SHUT THE FUCK UP MISTAKI U TRIPOLAR SHITHEAD
spies4kip: hahaha
spies4masaki: I dunno which line is better
spies4masaki: that
spies4masaki: Or ralph's infamous "I HAVE A ROLE!!!!" line
spies4kip: hehehehhee
spies4kip: both are pretty humorous
spies4kip: i wonder how many roles we have left
spies4masaki: Anyway, thinking Leon might be the way to go
spies4kip: fatemaker obv... that it?
spies4masaki: I dunno
spies4kip: leon looks like a possible exile thos time too
spies4kip: i kno singe wanted leon
spies4masaki: Well we have 6 votes at least
spies4masaki: assuming Bunni votes with us
spies4kip: thats 5
spies4kip: added summer?
spies4masaki: You, me, Singe, Damon, Summer, Bunni
spies4kip: need 7 though
spies4kip: and
spies4masaki: We gotta worry about Summer's crew
spies4masaki: Err
spies4kip: masaki, they know your identity
spies4masaki: Candy's
spies4masaki: I know
spies4masaki: But the vote will probably be split between Damon and myself
spies4kip: if they use your id, and you go
spies4Damon: Apologies I stepped out. Back now.
spies4Damon: What identity?
spies4kip: both orthos are in that group, guarenteed, unless of course you're one ;-)
spies4masaki: Couple of votes we can probably swing our way...
spies4masaki: Johan might vote with us, but more likely he will go with Candy
spies4masaki: Hannah definitely suspects Leon
spies4kip: hes with candy
spies4masaki: So I think we can probably swing her
spies4kip: hannah will vote with candy as well, i think
spies4kip: zander knows who masaki is
spies4masaki: Faizah will vote me
spies4masaki: Zander will vote me
spies4masaki: Candy might vote me, might vote Damon
spies4masaki: Hannah will vote Leon or me
spies4kip: she'll vote you
spies4masaki: Abrams is a toss up
spies4kip: candy will try and get someone to set damon up for next round
spies4kip: while saying she has a new target
spies4masaki: Did you talk to her yesterday?
spies4kip: no
spies4masaki: When was the last time?
spies4kip: two days ago
spies4Damon: Fuck AIM. I got that all in one block again.
spies4masaki: What was she saying?
spies4kip: lemme double check
spies4kip: "king singe, blah blah
spies4Damon: I'm not sure you're not a Spy, Masaki, but I'm more inclined to believe you than Candy.
spies4Damon: I don't understand how people can find out the actual identities of people.
spies4kip: she was playing cat and mouse with you masaki
spies4masaki: Well has Candy done anything truly beneficial?
spies4masaki: She makes cases
spies4masaki: And they're wrong
spies4masaki: The only succesful case she made was against a Spy she investigated
spies4kip: spies4Candy (12:51:59 AM): 1. He thinks I'm lying about my mystery prize and that it was actually an Orthodoxy investigation
spies4Candy (12:52:18 AM): 2. He thinks I'm only focused on finding Traditionalist spies
spies4kip: spies4Candy (12:52:53 AM): My counters to 1
spies4Candy (12:53:10 AM): Well I guess that's for me to write out
spies4kip: and then never told her counters
spies4kip: changed topic to singe
spies4Damon: I have to agree with you there Masaki.
spies4Damon: She does seem to be focused on the Trad Spies. If I had my guess? She's Ortho.
spies4Damon: And the way she's stringing these people around by their noses is positively embaressing.
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spies4kip: for imp... i see singe, summer, candy, hannah, myself, or zander
spies4kip: as targets
spies4Damon: I hate internet.
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spies4kip: booted ya?
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4Damon: spies4Damon: She does seem to be focused on the Trad Spies. If I had my guess? She's Ortho.
spies4Damon: And the way she's stringing these people around by their noses is positively embaressing.
spies4masaki: Yeah...
spies4kip: yeah
spies4masaki: She IS only focused on them
spies4masaki: That's the thing
spies4masaki: She wanted Jeremiah out, didn't say which spy group she thought he was in
spies4Damon: No one can talk about voting Angelica because that was a confirmed Spy.
spies4kip: one thing ive noticed...
spies4masaki: Wanted Angelica out obviously because she was investigated
spies4masaki: Wanetd Bev out
spies4masaki: Wanted Naomi out
spies4masaki: Wanted Cain out for being Trad
spies4masaki: Wants me out for being Trad
spies4kip: candy likes to say leon is suspicious, but never that she wants to vote him
spies4Damon: They could be the last remaining Orthos.
spies4masaki: I could see it
spies4kip: first thing she asked me was why old kip voted leon
spies4Damon: It wouldn't come as a surprise.
spies4masaki: Who do you guys think Abrams will vote with?
spies4Damon: No idea.
spies4kip: us?
spies4kip: id hope
spies4Damon: Me too
spies4kip: bunni is in his family
spies4kip: maybe she has sway?
spies4Damon: We can try and see if she does. Will she definitely vote with us?
spies4kip: she was with abrams in the 2nd groupings oto
spies4masaki: Yeah she will
spies4masaki: She doesn't like Candy
spies4kip: well she was in here last night and didnt say she didnt think he was
spies4masaki: And finds Leon possibly tied with her
spies4kip: and she dislikes candy yeah
spies4masaki: WITH (6) : Masaki, Damon, Kip, Bunni, Singe, Summer
AGAINST (5) : Candy, Faizah, Zander, Johan, Leon
UNCERTAIN (3) : Abrams, Gordy, Hannah
spies4kip: man, im catching a cold :-(
spies4Damon: Gordy will vote with Candy.
spies4kip: yeah
spies4kip: as will hannah
spies4Damon: Hannah is part of that little clique too.
spies4masaki: how do you know?
spies4kip: abrams is the swing
spies4masaki: Gordy hated Candy before
spies4masaki: Why does he suddenly like her?
spies4kip: and even with abrams.... you got accusations on masaki
spies4Damon: Fuck if I know.
spies4masaki: Well better question is
spies4masaki: What makes you think he'll vote with her?
spies4Damon: Who's Leon's famiy?
spies4kip: cain
spies4Damon: Well that works
spies4kip: yah
spies4kip: well i guess we'll see more after imp tonight
spies4kip: i wont be here though
spies4Damon: Wh odo you think it would be?
spies4kip: til later
spies4kip: for imp?
spies4Damon: I may wake up for Imp.
spies4kip: summer, candy, singe, myself, hannah or zander
spies4kip: bunnis immune
spies4Damon: I really hope they Imp a Spy.
spies4kip: abrams and faizah idle
spies4kip: gordy cant be impd
spies4kip: masaki damon and leon are targets
spies4kip: johan idlers too kidna
spies4masaki: Guys, why do you think Gordy's voting with Candy?
spies4Damon: But they wouldn't call him out because he's part of the Kool Aid drinkers.
spies4Damon: Because she's the one he hasn't attacked yet?
spies4masaki: Probably realizes it's useless
spies4masaki: He hasn't attacked me either :-)
spies4kip: he told candy and zander you planned to try and blindside them this exile
spies4kip: back when you wanted too
spies4masaki: Really?
spies4masaki: Never wanted to blidnside them
spies4kip: spies4Zander (3:38:43 PM): Gordy thinks that if I survive Imprisonment Masaki will try and lead a blindside against me or Candy
spies4Damon: Since when was Zander up Candy's ass?
spies4kip: since always
spies4Damon: That's one thing I missed then.
spies4kip: pies4Zander (3:53:50 PM): Candy and I are basically the frontmen for it. Because we're probably the biggest targets anyway, why put the others at risk
spies4kip: the frontmen for the "block"
spies4Damon: This is where I roll my eyes.
spies4masaki: Ok guys
spies4masaki: Keep quiet about this I think
spies4masaki: Some of them might toss votes on Damon
spies4masaki: If they don't expect this
spies4Damon: I won't say anything.
spies4kip: we can hope they fracture
spies4masaki: And they might think we're still trying to blindside them
spies4kip: yeah
spies4masaki: I'll have Bunni talk to Abrams
spies4masaki: And hope to god one of us isn't imprisoned
spies4kip: you guys are safe
spies4masaki: Still think I'm screwed with the accusations
spies4Damon: One of us being someone in our block, he meant I think.
spies4kip: you kno for sure zander knows?
spies4Damon: How did they find out?
spies4kip: old kip knew
spies4masaki: If I was a Spy
spies4kip: he told singe
spies4masaki: I could take out Zander easily
spies4masaki: I know his identity
spies4kip: i dunno how zander knows
spies4masaki: Could have all 6 of us vote and accuse him and he'd be screwed
spies4kip: lol
spies4kip: i wouldnt do that haha
spies4masaki: I know
spies4masaki: :-)
spies4masaki: I don't think Zander's a Spy yet
spies4Damon: Tempting but I wouldn't.
spies4kip: also, cant forget the fatemaker this round guys
spies4kip: extra votes? someone cant vote?
spies4masaki: And yeah Zander knows
spies4masaki: He swears he didn't accuse me though
spies4Damon: Who acused you then?
spies4kip: who knoes what the fatemaker will give someone this round
spies4kip: if anything
spies4masaki: I have no idea
spies4kip: well i didnt
spies4Damon: Do we know anyone else's ID?
spies4kip: singe said he didnt
spies4kip: zander "didnt"
spies4masaki: As far as I know, only Kip, Singe, and Zander know
spies4kip: i trust singe over zander
spies4kip: but if zander knows
spies4Damon: I do too.
spies4kip: candy knows
spies4kip: so yeah, we gotta hope we all survive tonight
spies4kip: and the FM doesnt screw one of us
spies4kip: or give one of them something good
spies4Damon: Cross your fingers.
spies4kip: oh masaki
spies4kip: interview tomorrow?
spies4masaki: Sure
spies4kip: k
spies4kip: sometime in the afternoon
spies4kip: or nght if we're both not on
spies4masaki: Sure
spies4kip: it is exile, so we'll both be in and out
spies4kip: if we're both here
spies4Damon: I'm working on getting interview questions since no one is ever on at the same time as me
spies4kip: its a shame you didnt have masaki or myself
spies4kip: sams an evil genius for who he paired up though
spies4Damon: Yes he is.
spies4kip: queen candy interviewing king singe? that'll be fun
spies4Damon: You 2 are the only ones I see on AIM.
spies4Damon: What time zones are you 2 in?
spies4kip: estern
spies4kip: eastern*
spies4masaki: eastern
spies4Damon: OK
spies4kip: one hour back of the host
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4kip: ok well i gtg
spies4Damon: Nice talking to you Kip.
spies4kip: got some stuff going
spies4kip: ill be back after imprisonment, around 11est
spies4kip: bye guys
spies4Damon: 11EST? Crap man.
spies4kip: yeah
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spies4Damon: I'm on my way out too. Keep me in the loop, if you would.
spies4masaki: Sure thing
spies4masaki: Seeya

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: Good day
spies4Singe: hi damon im at work cant chat much
spies4Singe: anything new?
spies4Damon: Sorry to disturb was just going to have a light chat and possibly progress it to the game. No new news, if that's what you were asking for, just general game chatter. Take care and maybe I'll catch you online another time.
spies4Singe: i fly back home tonight, hopefully we can chat in your AM
spies4Singe: and i just posted under the Let's Exile Damon topic
spies4Damon: Will have to be through board or PM. I can't use AIM during the day.
spies4Singe: let me know your thoughts :-)
spies4Damon: Will do.
spies4Damon: If my internet would cooperate I'd get a chane to read it sometime this year.
spies4Singe: "By the way, I posted this not because Damon was my #1 suspect but because he IS a suspect and he needed a fire lit under his ass. Candy agreed with the idea, so we started a quick bandwagon.

Damon, please try to always play as hard as you played since this thread began. Thanks."
spies4Singe: that thread was a wake up call, not based on a real desire to make you the #1 exile choice
spies4Damon: I was curious about that since there was so little evidence brought to light.
spies4Singe: we need to get faizah, johan and abrams involved as well
spies4Damon: That may be a little more difficult.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Gordy: I don't hate you. I am usually mad when I'm sleep deprived :-)
spies4Damon: Sleep more for everyone's sake, then.
spies4Gordy: :-(
spies4Gordy: if you weren't on vacation a million times a week people wouldn't be suspcting you
spies4Damon: Weekends only. Some long. Apologies.
spies4Gordy: johan you ain't!
spies4Damon: What does that mean?
spies4Gordy: the polite mannerisms
spies4Gordy: frightens me
spies4Damon: Am I supposed to bitch out right and tell people to bite me?
spies4Gordy: that would be nice! :-D
spies4Gordy: although insulting my gameplay as well as Addy's was wrong, since we both played our hardest to uncover spies
spies4Gordy: while you stood against the wall and let us be shot
spies4Damon: What could I have done?
spies4Gordy: you know
spies4Gordy: be more active
spies4Gordy: instead of pulling an Abrams on us
spies4Gordy: he should be forcefully removed from the game
spies4Damon: I wasn't nearly that bad.
spies4Gordy: well at least you talk in the Burg. Abrams jhasn't interviewed me yet
spies4Gordy: I hope he gets penalized
spies4Damon: I've always spoken in the Burg.
spies4Damon: Is that who you're targetting?
spies4Gordy: and that's why we love you :-)
spies4Damon: Or just annoyed?
spies4Gordy: no that's not my target
spies4Gordy: I can almsot safely say Abrams is a citizen
spies4Damon: Who do you think the likely Spy is?
spies4Gordy: all the people who have voted for Kiyoshi have been citizens
spies4Gordy: Singe has done some fishy things that are much more than coincidences.
spies4Gordy: and Zander attacking people left and right
spies4Gordy: perhps to mask his spy identity
spies4Gordy: by trying to put the blame on others so much
spies4Damon: There's a lot of suspicious activity going on.
spies4Gordy: it really depends on who you wanted Exiled, as Kip says his vote leans towards Leon
spies4Gordy: Summer and Singe both have expressed the same issues with Leon
spies4Damon: Until last night I was leaning towards Leon. Honestly.
spies4Gordy: this is a double elimination round
spies4Gordy: so getting rid of Leon and perhaps Zander afterwards would be a good move
spies4Gordy: although I'm only here for the first one
spies4Damon: Beyond Leon I was leaning more towards Candy or Singe.
spies4Damon: Zander comes off as highly suspicious but I'm not yet sold. I've had Candy on that list since Exile II and Singe has been addin the tick marks over the last few rounds.
spies4Gordy: how can I convince you that Zander may be a spy without throwing someone under the bus for the spies to imprison?
spies4Gordy: oh nevermind haha
spies4Damon: What do you mean?
spies4Gordy: Zander accuses me of fooling around
spies4Gordy: when I've been trying to collect evidence and analize them
spies4Gordy: the mystery involves two people
spies4Damon: You have come off as fooling aroudn, Gordy, to be fair.
spies4Gordy: I know
spies4Damon: Your posts haven't been very helpful and you've been rather bitchy. Until now.
spies4Gordy: :-)
spies4Gordy: PMSing?
spies4Damon: Just speaking the truth but I'm willing to listen if you're willing to talk.
spies4Damon: You? yes.
spies4Gordy: Addy posted in LL
spies4Gordy: that Singe may be the last Trad
spies4Gordy: because he always avoids being imprisoned
spies4Gordy: and brings up useless evidence that's old as shit
spies4Gordy: why wouldn't the spies imprison Singe?
spies4Gordy: if people trust him, get rid of the trusted people
spies4Gordy: and let the suspicous people stay in the game
spies4Damon: As the last Trad I would expect him to post as much evidence as possible, that's fresh and new, to help oust the Orthos.
spies4Gordy: remember, the spies can communicate with each other through messages each round
spies4Damon: I know.
spies4Gordy: so if Singe is a Trad, for example, he could tip off the Orthos about Johan
spies4Gordy: if Singe was an Ortho and Zander was the last Trad, he could have told Zander to imprison Johan
spies4Gordy: my other theory is that Zander or someone has the spymaster role
spies4Damon: Explain the role?
spies4Gordy: the spymaster was used in Spies 2
spies4Gordy: they are able to invesitgate citizens and see if they have roles or not
spies4Gordy: which coincides with me, Addy, and Johan being imprisoned back to back to back
spies4Damon: I'm not that familiar with the Series
spies4Gordy: it's a role to see which citizens have roles
spies4Gordy: in other words, it's a spy role
spies4Gordy: and most likely an Ortho role
spies4Gordy: to make up for theuneven number of spies
spies4Gordy: and give the minor spies some firepower
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Gordy: it's my belief one of the ortho spies has sucha role, and they've been imprisoning us non stop
spies4Gordy: instead of trying to catch th last Trad
spies4Damon: For once I'm glad to be Vanilla, lol
spies4Gordy: :-D
spies4Gordy: Vanilla Coke <3
spies4Damon: Vanilla Ice Cream <3
spies4Gordy: haha!
spies4Gordy: <3 you Damon
spies4Gordy: so aside from Leon, Candy, and Singe, who is another one of your suspects
spies4Damon: Thank you. I think.
spies4Gordy: ?
spies4Gordy: <3 <3 <3
spies4Damon: Hannah and Masaki are the next tier down for me.
spies4Damon: I have to go. I'll be back before Exile.
spies4Gordy: bye Damon :-)
spies4Gordy: thanks for the input
spies4Damon: You're welcome. Thanks for the conversation.
spies4Gordy: <3

spies4masaki: Hey Damon
spies4Damon: Hey Masaki
spies4masaki: You read up on all the shit that happened last night?
spies4Damon: Yup. With Johan?
spies4masaki: Yeah
spies4Damon: This becomes a bit of a conundrum.. WIFOM like they'd say on my other board.
spies4masaki: Yeah
spies4masaki: Though some compelling arguments
spies4masaki: I mean
spies4masaki: Singe and Zander both just learned of the role between last imprisonment and this one
spies4masaki: And Johan is imprisoned
spies4Damon: And CAndy knew.
spies4masaki: Right
spies4masaki: But she found out a while back
spies4Damon: But she knew that Singe found out this round.
spies4masaki: Yup
spies4masaki: My point is
spies4masaki: It really looks like one of those 3 were behind it
spies4Damon: Precisely.
spies4Damon: What's the idea for Exile?
spies4masaki: Gordy is wanting Zander gone
spies4masaki: My vote is still on Leon until we figure it out
spies4masaki: Singe thinks it's Candy
spies4masaki: Candy doesn't know what to think
spies4masaki: Personally I doubt it's Singe
spies4masaki: I just don't see him doing that after receiving that heads up from Johan
spies4Damon: I would think it's Candy more than Singe.
spies4masaki: Right
spies4Damon: I'll likely vote Leon or Candy.
spies4masaki: You going to be on for a bit?
spies4Damon: Until the end of the movie I'm reading.
spies4masaki: Might get a chat going here in a little bit
spies4Damon: That would be welcome.
spies4Damon: I have to go. I'll be back before Exile.
spies4masaki: Alright
spies4masaki: Take care

spies4Zander: Damon, darling, did you get my PM
spies4Damon: I am on Question 6 right now.
spies4Damon: Would you like me to answer them in IM so you might get to pose follow ups or will this be enough?
spies4Zander: Actually PM me first and if I have followups I'll ask them in AIM, that'd be great
spies4Damon: No problem. Almost done.
spies4Damon: It's been sent
spies4Damon: Keep in mind I did that while watching DaVinci Code lol
spies4Zander: haha
spies4Zander: Okay I'll check it out in a few seconds
spies4Damon: No problem.
spies4Zander: I made a poll you might wanna look at too
spies4Damon: I'll go do it now.
spies4Zander: Follow up time!
spies4Zander: :-p
spies4Zander: Some people say you only come on to defend yourself. What do you say to that?
spies4Damon: Well I'm sure it seems that way because I always seem to be attacked while I'm on away on vacation. By the time I get back all that I can do is defend myself. In all honesty in the beginning I posted a lot more and I've kept up with the Burg. I may not have posted as much information as I was capable of but I was never truly in the shadows.
spies4Zander: Great.
spies4Zander: Thank you Damon!
spies4Damon: Your welcome, Zander. Thanks for the pleasant and civil interview.
spies4Zander: no problem :-p
spies4Damon: Would you like to discuss the upcoming Exile?
spies4Zander: surely
spies4Damon: Your name is on the table. I'm not sure I'm convinced you're a Spy. Sure you've done some things that are suspicious under many lights and through different angles. I wanted to know what you were thinking.
spies4Zander: Well obviously I'm going to remain stalwart in suspecting Masaki
spies4Zander: Gordy brought my name up basically today and I don't know why but he seemed to not have a good reason for it
spies4Damon: He sais Adelaide was the one to bring it up and he's bringing it to us.
spies4Zander: *I literally got invited to a chat seconds after he said he wanted to exile me and i saw him say "But i have no good reason"
spies4Damon: That's helpful.
spies4Zander: Somehow I find that perfectly convenient for him to say. We have know way of knowing that and he brings that out after he says he wants me exiled
spies4Zander: I do not understand his motivation, he lied to Masaki and I all week about one another and now he's grilling Singe, when he seems to not be telling many people about what he wants in the first place
spies4Damon: Gordy is not my concern. He's here for this round and he's got a vote and a voice but it's not swaying me. I'll vote the way I want to and the way I think might be the Spy.
spies4Zander: which way do you think that is right now?
spies4Damon: Leon/Candy/Singe hold my interest at the moment.
spies4Zander: *Sigh* I hope this doesnt end up like another Cain travesty
spies4Zander: Leon is in my Top 3 though, I cannot fault you for suspecting him
spies4Damon: I don't want another Cain travesty but there are too many options and too little to go on. I'm not sold on Masaki and it could only be wishful thinking since he's one of the guys who
spies4Damon: Is always on the same time as me.
spies4Damon: I have to go. I'll be back before Exile.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: Hey. I'm seeing all the drama. What ended p happening last night?
spies4Singe: Abrams idled out
spies4Singe: otherwise masaki would have been exiled i believe
spies4Singe: vote count:
spies4Singe: Leon (11): Kip, Damon, Singe, Bunni, Masaki (+ 6PENALTY)
Masaki (8) : Zander, Candy, Hannah, Summer, Gordy (+3 ACCUSATION)
Singe (1) : Faizah

Not voting: Leon
spies4Damon: But Sam removed Abrams instead?
spies4Singe: yes
spies4Damon: Ok because I was reading everything and was confused as fuck. Abrams was Cit, naturally?
spies4Singe: yes
spies4Damon: Thanks for the clarification.
spies4Singe: ill post the chat
spies4Damon: At least they wasted their accusations now.
spies4Singe: well, it's POSSIBLE they were right
spies4Singe: but the way they went about it was TERRIBLE
spies4Damon: Agreed
spies4Damon: I'll make my points when I get to work. Got to get ready for it now though.
spies4Damon: Work I mean.
spies4Singe: ok Damon
spies4Singe: thanks for checking in
spies4Singe: havea good day
spies4Damon: So much for getting away clean. Here's Candy.
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Damon: My God she can be a bitch.
spies4Singe: hehe
spies4Singe: what now?
spies4Damon: Not even worth repeating. I have the holier than thou attitude of entitlement though.
spies4Damon: Off to work. Have a good night Singe.
spies4Singe: nite

spies4Candy: Damon
spies4Damon: Candy
spies4Candy: What's up
spies4Damon: Nothing much. Saw everything on the board and was looking for what happened last night.
spies4Candy: Summary:
spies4Candy: Leon didn't show up for exile
spies4Candy: Received penalties for not posting convos
spies4Candy: Not voting period
spies4Candy: Plus 5 votes from you, Bunni, Singe, Kip and Mistaki
spies4Damon: Singe filled me in, thanks though.
spies4Candy: Oh ho
spies4Candy: Did he tell you how I won tonight's challenge?
spies4Damon: Didn't get that far because I needed to sign off. Then you IMed me and I stayed a bit longer.
spies4Candy: You just got on!
spies4Candy: Fine
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Damon: I have to go to work or else I would stay on longer.
spies4Candy: OK talk to you in episode 13
spies4Damon: I can be late and lose my job. Would you prefer that?
spies4Candy: Nah
spies4Candy: We exchange a few words every 4 rounds
spies4Candy: So I'll talk to you in episode 13
spies4Candy: Have fun at work dear
spies4Damon: I'm not your dear.
spies4Candy: Better believe you aren't
spies4Damon: As long as we're clear on that. Have a good night.

[Kate (Damon)]

(11:39:57 AM) Damon: Hi Singe
(11:40:07 AM) spies4Singe: hi what's up
(11:40:14 AM) Damon: Got stupid AIM working.
(11:40:42 AM) spies4Singe: good :-)
(11:40:46 AM) spies4Singe: what are your thoughts?
(11:41:05 AM) Damon: My best guess at the moment is likely that Candy/Leon could be the Ortho pairing.
(11:42:08 AM) spies4Singe: really?
(11:42:12 AM) spies4Singe: i was just about to post that
(11:42:21 AM) Damon: It's obvious.
(11:42:25 AM) spies4Singe: "I am tempted to agree with the reasoning that Leon is probably not a Spy because he is inactive, but I am also wary of the fact that Candy is the person Leon ran to when I faked an investigation result on him. That, combined with last night's last minute, underhanded protection of Leon by Candy is significant."
(11:42:30 AM) Damon: Why else would she instruct people to vote Masaki? To protect him.
(11:42:41 AM) spies4Singe: almost too obvious
(11:42:53 AM) spies4Singe: but two incidents makes it tough
(11:42:59 AM) Damon: Perhaps thats a problem but I'm fairly convinced, beyond reasonable doubt, that Candy is a Spy.
(11:43:23 AM) Damon: Maybe I'm actually searchig for evidence and grasping it because I'm so intently focused on Candy but if she turns out to be a Cit I'll be dissapointed.
(11:43:36 AM) Damon: In myself, I mean, but I've got myself convinced she's a Spy.
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spies4Singe: I've posted
spies4Singe: read it and tell me what you think, if you would.
Damon: I love your detailed posts.
spies4Singe: thanks.
spies4Singe: i've seen the same from you
Damon: When you shake my shell enough?
spies4Singe: hopefully you've caught the fever now :-)
Damon: Literally as well as figuratively. I think I have a cold.
Damon: What is.. debunked?
spies4Singe: to prove something false
Damon: OK thank you
Damon: I can't quite think of what to say in response. You covered most everything. I could quote things I've said in other threads but that wouldn't be that helpful.
Damon: But the end result is I agree with the post and I have since stupid Exile II
spies4Singe: the problem is, there's a chance she's a stubborn Cit
spies4Singe: but can we risk leaving her alive as the evidence continues to mount?
spies4Singe: and what about Summer as well...
spies4Singe: i think she is a candidate for Candy's partner
Damon: First. The evidence is becominga huge pile against her. Second. Even if she is a Cit she's one who thinks she's the only one with the right opinion and she won't listen to reason and goes only on her own instincts and has enough sway to make others follow. That's NOT helpful.
spies4Singe: i agree
spies4Singe: tonight's exile was a disgrace
spies4Singe: zander is the only one of those four who made a case
spies4Singe: and a lousy case at that
Damon: I can't explain how dissapointed I was to see that they had resorted to Accusations to circumvent the public decision to Exile Leon.
spies4Singe: the other three took it in their hands
spies4Singe: yes
Damon: I can't blame Zander for his vote. At least he was honest. The attempt blindside was pathetic.
spies4Singe: right
spies4Singe: they may very well be right on MAsaki
spies4Singe: but orthos would be after a trad as well at this point
spies4Singe: and would not be too concerned about accidentally killing a valued Cit
Damon: When in doubt - go to the Observation Thread. I'll pick up some Candy thing sfrom there to share.
Damon: That's how I'm thinking.
spies4Singe: they didnt debate the risk vs reward
Damon: At all. Itw as their way or the freeway
Damon: I don't think this has a place in the actual discussion but it's something that jumped out to me a little bit ago and I wanted to point it out to you.
Damon: In 'The Cain train....again' Candy posted (Reply #1) this: "Go to Cain's "Just Like to Say" thread. He faked his convo." - this is part of your arguement
spies4Singe: yeah
Damon: Then you replied.. (#2) and said: "That's an awfully bold statement. When you and I went over it this afternoon, I could have sworn your conclusion was "might have been fake"."
spies4Singe: yeah
Damon: She was almost too willing to believe the worst of Cain, as she is with Masaki, but the difference is that she actively hunted Cain throughout that Episode and was out in the open. Why the sudden change to shadow strategizing?
spies4Singe: cause she got burned
spies4Singe: she's trying to pretend the Cain thing was good
Damon: I commented in my Observation Thread that I had to question her DESIRE to hunt cain.
Damon: What bothers me is she'll never admit she's in the wrong.
spies4Singe: well, considering she knew he had a protective role
spies4Singe: that would explain the desire
Damon: Exactly
spies4Singe: only she and johan knew
Damon: And her excuse now is what? She didn't belive the role?
spies4Singe: and how on earth did she convince johan to vote cain lol
spies4Singe: yes, she doesnt believe the role
Damon: Because he was her slave voter?
spies4Singe: apparently
Damon: Like half of the cast.
spies4Singe: we'll see how she responds tomorrow
spies4Singe: odds are it'll be battle stations
Damon: I'm sure it'll be another load of rubbish.
spies4Singe: rather than discussion
spies4Singe: and she hannah and summer will go into the war room
spies4Singe: and zander
spies4Singe: and see how they can dredge up enough votes
spies4Singe: at exile 9-2
spies4Singe: thing is, 2 of them are likely cits
spies4Singe: but which two?
Damon: It's hard to seperate them from each other and their special alliance. Simply because they're all peons and pawns of Candy and rarely listen to reason or participate in discussion.
Damon: At least open discussion.
Damon: How can you be so certain of such a large group of people? I don't understand why they;re cofortable lockin themselves away with 4 people when there are sitll 3 spies in the game. You can never be THAT certain of that many people.
spies4Singe: i imagine the spies have a decent idea who each other are now
spies4Singe: and yes
spies4Singe: i asked all of them that tonight
Damon: Rubbish answeR?
spies4Singe: "are all 3 spies in the leon voting contingent?"
Damon: I bet they answerd yes.
spies4Singe: nope
spies4Singe: they all said probably not
Damon: LOL
spies4Singe: yeah
Damon: They're viewin the world through rose colored glasses.
spies4Singe: implying they're blindly wagoning with people they know are liekly spies
spies4Singe: my guess is hannah is the naive one
spies4Singe: and zander is being taken in by flattery
Damon: Making Summer and Candy thel ikely Spies.
spies4Singe: and summer and candy are the spies
Damon: I can see that.
spies4Singe: i have asked them all game why they trusted each other
Damon: I wouldn't write off Hannah that easly but Summer does seem a bit more likely than the rest. They all have suspicions on them.
spies4Singe: they would NEVER say
spies4Singe: yes, hannah's logic is shoddy and somewhat spyish
spies4Singe: cain was a bad cit but needed to die
spies4Singe: leon is a bad cit and should be kept alive
Damon: What do you think will be the likely outcome of the next Exile? I'm gone Sat/Sun.
spies4Singe: i think we'll know by the end of tomorrow
spies4Singe: faizah, kip, masaki, you, me, bunni
spies4Singe: 6
Damon: Tomorrow is Saturday
spies4Singe: well, today :-)
Damon: You think Faizah would vote with us?
spies4Singe: faizah wants to talk
spies4Singe: she sees the issues with that bloc
Damon: Since when?
spies4Singe: and she talked to masaki and found him Cittish
spies4Singe: tonight after exile
Damon: Glad to hear it.
spies4Singe: well, she's a suspect too i suppose
Damon: I'm not convinced this block is without Spies but I do believe the other has at least 2. Better chances over here.
Damon: Too much of a sheep role.
spies4Singe: i'm getting better vibes off of you
spies4Singe: i keep asking myself
spies4Singe: "is he this good"
Damon: I just needed to speak more.
spies4Singe: well, some people can fake Cittishness
spies4Singe: so i am still wary, but your desire says a lot
Damon: My open desire in a non single minded way? Thanks
spies4Singe: righto
spies4Singe: you come across as non manipulative
spies4Singe: and with nothing to hife
spies4Singe: de
Damon: Now that I've figured out how to get AIM at work this will be a far more successful bid for activity.
spies4Singe: hehe
spies4Singe: try not to get fired :-)
Damon: I don;t need to manipulate. If I see something I'll share it.
Damon: They like me. Wouldn't fire me over a little AIM.
spies4Singe: smart people
spies4Singe: candy is going to flip
Damon: Flip? Her vote?
spies4Singe: flip her lid
spies4Singe: go bonkers
spies4Singe: if she is an ortho
spies4Singe: she has a role most likely
spies4Singe: if we run her up she will claim it
Damon: An Ortho Role?
spies4Singe: yes
Damon: It's likely.
spies4Singe: and this will be the excuse
spies4Singe: for why summer
Damon: It won't be pretty, this round, I think.
spies4Singe: and maybe hannah and zander trust her
spies4Singe: so i guess it's best that we make up our minds fast
spies4Singe: shall we encourage the 6 to state intent
Damon: Gordy will likely vote wit htheir block?
spies4Singe: i think he's gone
Damon: I think we should encourage the dissenters to join in discussion. The more minds the better. The more discussion the more likely it is a Spy slips up.
spies4Singe: right
Damon: That would be helpful.
spies4Singe: even if we catch a candyspy
spies4Singe: gotta think of next steps
spies4Singe: which will require seeing how people reacted to this situation
Damon: IF Candy is the Spy the next one from the Orthos is likely in her group of followers.
spies4Singe: that's so risky
Damon: I don't think that the other Ortho would be Kip, Masaki, myself or you.
spies4Singe: but possible
Damon: Just from our interactions. Few as they are.
spies4Singe: Kip hasnt been manipulative
spies4Singe: I also dont think old Kip would have bailed as a spy
Damon: Me neither.
spies4Singe: he started out enjoying the game, then got vored
spies4Singe: bored
Damon: And not just because the same reflects on old Damon
spies4Singe: and left right when the spies were scoring a huge advantage
spies4Singe: why quit when your team's up 3-nil?
Damon: Exactly
spies4Singe: also
spies4Singe: have you ever noticed how long it takes certain people to reply to things
spies4Singe: candy hesitates often
spies4Singe: as if she's calculating the correct response
spies4Singe: and if she cant get it
spies4Singe: she tosses out a DEAL WITH IT
spies4Singe: or WHATEVER
spies4Singe: i will be kinda shocked if she's a Cit
Damon: That's what I have been saying.
Damon: When you came after me, or when Naomi did, I was quick to get my responses out.
Damon: Zander seems to think that was Gordy's last round. Good. He wasn't at all helpful.
Damon: At least according to his away message.
Damon: Did you see Candy's reponses to my thread about the Kool-Aid, though? It was the same "Deal with it" and "whatever" attitude you've mentioned she exhibits when she can't quite calculate a proper response.
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Singe: and wow:
spies4Singe: "(5:23:39 AM) spies4Candy: 12 minutes
(5:23:50 AM) spies4Candy: I want to do a blindside
(5:24:09 AM) spies4hannah: on?
(5:24:12 AM) spies4Candy: Mistaki
(5:24:23 AM) spies4hannah: well i am already voting him actually"
Damon: Where did that just come from?
Damon: I see.
Damon: Well if it wasn't common knowledge I was in Europe it now is. haha
spies4Singe: heh
Damon: Actually. Was it?
spies4Singe: you've hinted at it i believe, publicly
Damon: I know I've told you and Kip.
Damon: I'm going to grab lunch. Will see you later?
spies4Singe: yes
spies4Singe: have a good one
spies4Singe: and if you're a cit
spies4Singe: smile big
Damon: Hopefully not too soon. You should get some sleep.
spies4Singe: we're on their tails
Damon:
Damon: Take care.
spies4Singe: you as well
Damon: Vaarwel

[Kate (Damon)]

Damon: I'm back.
spies4Singe: heya
spies4Singe: hammering on hannah a bit :-)
Damon: Having fun? Is she on AIM or just the board? And don't you sleep?
spies4Singe: i do need to sleep :-)
spies4Singe: but i smell blood
spies4Singe: she's on IM
Damon: Great white?
spies4Singe: yeah i think i'm part GW
spies4Singe: tonight at least
Damon: There is something about being on the hunt that makes you want to stick around and watch the conclusion.
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Singe: and there's more to the story than meets the eye :-)
Damon: Like what?
spies4Singe: hopefully i can share something gordy told me... soon
Damon: I'm patient.
spies4Singe: it's about the protections Cain made
Damon: Now you've got my interest.
Damon: She's telling me that she also thinks one of Summer/Zander/Candy is a Spy.
Damon: I can't tell if she's trying to say things I want to hear though.
spies4Singe: oh my god i may have caught her
Damon: Hannah or Candy?
spies4Singe: "
spies4Singe (6:29:52 AM): if you were an ortho would you have chosen Addy out of those 6?

spies4hannah (6:31:16 AM): if i had known of her role, probably. if not, then no

spies4hannah (6:31:29 AM): but why would spies themselves be on the list...? i dont get it

spies4Singe (6:30:36 AM): which spies"
spies4Singe:
i gave her a list of six
spies4Singe:
and she's saying the spies themselves are on thte list
spies4Singe:
how does she know that
Damon: Did you ask her?
spies4Singe:
yes :-)
spies4Singe:
long pause
Damon: She's still talking to me.
Damon: Do you think she meant why would the suspected spies (like Candy) be on that list?
spies4Singe:
yes could be
Damon: But it is suspicious.
spies4Singe:
nite, i think my eyes nearly closed just now
Damon: It's time for you to sleep.
spies4Singe:
see if you can press the offensive before the bad guys can get their stories together
Damon: I'll work on it. Work caught up to me though.
spies4Singe:
good luck
spies4Singe:
by the way
Damon: Weltrusten.....goodnight
spies4Singe:
what kind of work do you do?
Damon: That's for you to find out after the game
spies4Singe:
aww
spies4Singe:
i work for the american arm of a dutch consulting company :-)
spies4Singe:
doubt i know of you in real life but you never know :-)
Damon: I'm impressed you picked up on the Dutch
spies4Singe:
i just started
spies4Singe:
hanging around all these tall programmers im bound to learn a thing or two :-)
Damon: We'll have to share a conversation later.
spies4Singe:
yup
spies4Singe:
nite :-)
Damon: Dag

[Kate (Damon)]

Damon: Hello Hannah
spies4hannah: hi
spies4hannah: singe is grilling me, u are welcome to as well. I am an open book.
Damon: I will once I finish my lunch
spies4hannah: lol
spies4hannah: ok
Damon: A little late but I had a busy morning.
Damon: That was an unsatisfying lunch
Damon: I suppose it's easy for me to tell you now that when we were in that first family I trusted you and Cain because of the bond. I'm not ready to write you off but things are becoming a little out of hand with Queen Candy and her Court that it's hard to really remind myself that you were someone I trusted.
spies4hannah: well i do not consider myself part of her court! yes i have defended her before, and do still trust her somewhat, but she doesnt influence my voting.
Damon: It's hard to seperate you because so many others are in the same boat of listening to Candy as some kind of Gospel Queen. I'm just explaining this from my point of view so you don't think I've gone looney.
spies4hannah: no i understand it, but thus i am explaining MY point of view too.
spies4hannah: when singe went away candy kind of stepped up to take a leadership role
Damon: And gathered herself something of an army.
Damon: The thing is, the thing that really strikes me as odd, is that so many people trust her but she also 'trusts' so many people. Stastically there's got to be a Spy in that group.
spies4hannah: yes i agree there too. i am pretty sure now that at least one of summer candy and zander are a spy
Damon: Agreed.
Damon: I still maintain Candy is one of my top suspects. Might be stubborn of me, I'm willing to admit that, but there's enough evidence there that I feel it's not without reason.
spies4hannah: yes i agree she is looking more and more suspicious. HOWEVER it could all be a setup....
spies4hannah: i really wish i had won that mini mole game
spies4hannah: then i could have gotten to investigate
Damon: Who won?
spies4hannah: candy!
Damon: Fuck
Damon: I mean....
spies4hannah: yes, if she is a spy, those points wont help us at all
Damon: May help to get the last Trad but no the Orthos.
Damon: And we'll have to wait 2 rounds to hear about it.
spies4hannah: i came so close to winning, i had to pick from 50 50 ad i got it wrong was seriously bummed
Damon: That is a bummer.
Damon: Work is picking up. I'm going to dissapear for a little.
spies4hannah: ok

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Masaki: Ok
spies4Masaki: Candy's gotta go this time
Damon: You think I'd argue that?
spies4Masaki: Nope
spies4Masaki: I just felt like saying it
Damon: I have absolutely every intention of voting her. Too bad we can't accuse her and turn that nasty little trick back on her. The good news is they can't do it to us either.
spies4Masaki: She threatened me last night after the exile
Damon: She did not!
Damon: How childish.
spies4Masaki: yup
Damon: What did she say?
spies4Masaki: She said that because she won 310 points from the challenge, and that she could buy investigations/immunities, that I'd better reconsider ignoring her.
spies4Masaki: Told her to fuck off and do whatever she wanted.
spies4Masaki: Well maybe not fuck off, but I wanted to
Damon: You should've. Or said "Bite Me" or "Whatever"
Damon: The sad thing is at this point she could be flat out lying and everyone would believe her.
spies4Masaki: I know...
spies4Masaki: Well we still have the advantage
Damon: Faizah's considering and so is Hannah.
Damon: There are holes getting poked in her helm.
spies4Masaki: Right
spies4Masaki: We have 5 votes against her as it is
spies4Masaki: She has 4 against me
spies4Masaki: And there are 3 tossup
spies4Masaki: Well 2
spies4Masaki: I have Hannah on the definite Masaki vote list
spies4Masaki: Leon and Faizah are tossups
spies4Masaki: My problem : I still can be accused by whatever tossup voters she pulls in
Damon: This is getting ridiculous. I want to expose her and make all these players feel like fools.
Damon: How did they find out anyways???
spies4Masaki: I know, man... I mean I'm going to be shocked at this point if she's a Citizen. She is doing all of this the wrong way.
spies4Masaki: She's trying to save her own ass
spies4Masaki: Trying to take people out by stealing votes, and doing it behind their backs
Damon: She's going about it ocmpletely the wrong way and she calls me the dumb player.
spies4Masaki: And she totally set Singe up with the Johan thing and tried to turn it back onto him
Damon: That's how it's looking at the moment.
Damon: Sorry - work is catching up to me.
spies4Masaki: It's cool
spies4Masaki: Real life comes first.
spies4Masaki: I'm writing up my final words
spies4Masaki: I made the topic last night when Kip told me they were voting me and throwing accusation votes my way, so figure I might as well just write up the final words now that the topic is there
Damon: That was a cheap way to try and get their way. I'm not sold on you being a Citizen, let's be honest, but I would never resort to those kind of chilidish tantrum tactics.
spies4Masaki: And that's why I trust you more than others, Damon
spies4Masaki: You don't suck up to me
Damon: Where would be the purpose?
spies4Masaki: And I do not think Hannah is the most likely Spy candidate in their batch
spies4Masaki: She did tell me she planned on voting me
spies4Masaki: Summer and Candy played dirty pool
spies4Masaki: They did what you're not doing
spies4Masaki: Sucking up
Damon: Her and Zander are the two least likelies. Most would be Summer and Candy.
Damon: They play dirty and then they rationalize playing dirty.
spies4Masaki: Summer came as a huge shock to me
spies4Masaki: Man I don't even know what to think anymore
spies4Masaki: I mean for the love of god, Gordy was a Citizen and he was one of the conspirators
spies4Masaki: What the hell
spies4Masaki: He couldn't even give me a reason for why he did that.
Damon: Because he's one of Candy's litte minions.
Damon: For a while I thought I was the only one in shock of her controlling that block of votes.
Damon: She's the one screwing up this game if she's a Citizen. The cloak and daggers belongs in reality TV not in a Mafia game.
Damon: There's no use for it in a Mafia game.
spies4Masaki: haha yeah
spies4Masaki: I'm really happy I didn't go last night
spies4Masaki: It would've been the second time Spies blindsided me
spies4Masaki: I would like to go for a valid reason for once
Damon: You deserve a valid reason.
Damon: I don't think it's asking for too much.
Damon: Why did you block Zander?
Damon: Done here and going out. I'll check in before I leave tomorrow morning in case things change in the meantime.

Damon: Hello
spies4Zander: Howdy
Damon: How're you?
spies4Zander: Meh, doing okay
spies4Zander: could be better
spies4Zander: how about you?
Damon: Work is kicking my ass today.
spies4Zander:
Damon: Rather dissapointed I missed so much last night. I slept straight through the alarm. Or rather rolled over and wondered why the hell it was going off at 3am
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: Impressive
spies4Zander: Yeah I was not there either and I'm very sad - the Mole is my favorite game/ tv show
Damon: I'm not familiar with it.
spies4Zander: Ah! It's quite fun
Damon: I tried to read the transcript but I didn't quite understand what ws going on.
Damon: What do you think will be the likely outcome of this next one? Are you goin to vote for Masaki again?
spies4Zander: I'm going to vote for whomever I suspect the most, again
spies4Zander: and if that happens to be Masaki at that point in time, then yes
Damon: That's what I assumed but I meant specifically.
Damon: Sorry but I'm away again this weekend, you understand? I'm trying to feel the waters before I go.
spies4Zander: No, no problem at all
spies4Zander: Right now Masaki remains my top suspect
spies4Zander: if he would unblock me then I'd love to talk to him and let him change that
spies4Zander: But after the clusterfuck of evidence being brought to the burg's attention against... basically everyone, I'm not sure what to think anymore
Damon: He blocked you?
spies4Zander: mmhmm
Damon: There's a lot going on. Evidence is good but there's a lot to wade through and you've got to pick and choose and make priorities.
Damon: That's where I'm standing.
Damon: Done here and going out. I'll check in before I leave tomorrow morning in case things change in the meantime.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Singe: well, damon, big news lol
spies4Damon: What's the news?
spies4Damon: I just got home.
spies4Singe: Candy claimed Fatemeker
spies4Singe: read her post
spies4Damon: Why am I not inclined to believe her?
spies4Singe: we have no choice it seems
spies4Singe: gordy brokered it all
spies4Damon: Now what?
spies4Singe: we listen
spies4Singe: and reevaluate
spies4Damon: I have to vote tomorrow morning before I leave.
spies4Singe: the kip vote is a rough one
spies4Singe: because i dont see him as a spy
spies4Damon: Wait? Kip??
spies4Damon: Since when?
spies4Singe: yeah candy's post explains it
spies4Damon: I
spies4Damon: I'm still working my way there.
spies4Singe: kip claims to know a confirmed citizen
spies4Singe: candy wants to know if kip's a spy
spies4Singe: who's lying
spies4Damon: BRB until I'm done reading.
spies4Singe: k
spies4Damon: Why Kip?
spies4Damon: I can't vote him, he's my brother, and I'm fairly convinced he's a Cit.
spies4Singe: The argument is that Kip's death either confirms a Cit
spies4Singe: or gives us two spies
spies4Damon: Two spies?
spies4Singe: kip plus the person he's lying about
spies4Damon: Who is the person?
spies4Singe: the person named in the coded message kip posted
spies4Damon: I gathered as much.
spies4Damon: Kip isn't that dumb.
spies4Singe: i would tend to agree
spies4Damon: To risk himself and another Spy
spies4Damon: I don't want to play Candy's game where we vote someone out on a whim to satisfy her theories.
spies4Damon: BRB While I pack for my holiday. I need time to think too lol
spies4Singe: ok
spies4Damon: Ok. Round 1: Damon vs. Daypack - Daypack wins.
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Singe: FIGHT
spies4Damon: I'd put my money on the Daypack. It's a mean one.
spies4Singe: looks like bunni doesnt want kip out either
spies4Damon: Who is a more reasonable target? Because I don't believe Kip is a Spy and I'm not voting for him just to solve Candy's theory.
spies4Singe: i am ordering suspects
spies4Singe: i guess masaki is high now
spies4Damon: spies4Summer: Bunni's post is giving me a headache
spies4Summer: If I wasn't voting Kip, I'd vote for her
spies4Damon: I thought you werern't sure you were voting for Kip.
spies4Damon: You're high on my list still lol
spies4Damon: I really hope someone Imprisons Candy next. I'd hate to lose the Fatemaker but we'll lose the person who has this game by the balls.
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Damon: Did Kip give Candy the code to his Post?
spies4Singe: gordy did, she says
spies4Damon: I don't understand why he would encode a post, give the code to a few people, and then make that post be fake to begin with. None of it makes sense from either the POV of a Cit (to be lying) or a spy.
spies4Singe: i tend to agree
spies4Damon: I think I'm just going to have to sleep on it and hope that something happens over night to make everything make sense again.
spies4Singe: hehe
spies4Singe: i cant believe all that last night was for nada
spies4Singe: not quite nada, got some data on hannah and summer
spies4Damon: That's true.
spies4Damon: Keep me in the loop?
spies4Singe: yes
spies4Singe: will do

spies4masaki: holy shit
spies4masaki: You see Candy's revelation?
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4masaki: out of our hands now
spies4masaki: if she's telling the truth, we'll likely win
spies4masaki: if not, well, like i said
spies4masaki: out of our hands
spies4Damon: Fuck me standing. I feel topsy turvy now
spies4masaki: hehe
spies4Damon: BRB While I pack for my holiday. I need time to think too lol
spies4Damon: Ok. Round 1: Damon vs. Daypack - Daypack wins.
spies4masaki: haha
spies4Damon: I'm gonna go. Keep me in the loop?
spies4masaki: Will do

spies4Summer: Hi Damon
spies4Damon: Hello Summer
spies4Summer: How are you?
spies4Damon: Just getting home to hear about everything.
spies4Summer: Me too
spies4Summer: What do you think of it?
spies4Damon: I'm literally reading the threads now. BRB Until I'm done.
spies4Damon: Alright. I've read now.
spies4Damon: My mind is spinning.
spies4Summer: Mine as well
spies4Damon: I feel like I'm in a snow globe and I just got shook up
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: What do you make of it?
spies4Summer: You posted last episode that she was your biggest spy candidate
spies4Damon: I find it hard to believe but the evidence is overwhelming.
spies4Damon: And my opinion stands that she makes a piss poor Cit.
spies4Summer: Why?
spies4Damon: Everything about her game play stank of Spy or at least of a bitch with a sense of entitlement.
spies4Summer: I can name a few of those
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: Are you all right?
spies4Damon: What do you mean?
spies4Summer: You seem tense?
spies4Summer: Shook up :-)
spies4Damon: That sounds like a very poor intro to a cheap porno movie.
spies4Damon: Are you going to offre me a backrub now?
spies4Summer: Oh baby you know it
spies4Summer: ... I can't believe I just typed that
spies4Damon: Well it lightened my mood.
spies4Summer: Thank you!
spies4Damon: My biggest Spy candidate just annoncec she was a Cit with a powerful role. And in the process pointed a finger at my most trusted Cit as a likely Spy.
spies4Damon: Talk bout role reversals.
spies4Summer: Do you think voting for Kip is the right move?
spies4Damon: How would you be?
spies4Damon: I don't. And not because I trust him.
spies4Summer: I trust him too, actually - this is the hard part for me
spies4Damon: I just don't want to play Candy's game where we all fall in line like ducks and vote her way to satisfy her theory.
spies4Damon: I can't vote Kip anyways. So it's back to the drawing board for me and figuring out who else was high on my list of targets.
spies4Summer: Oh right!
spies4Damon: Anyone see Leon or is this going to be anothre idled out vote?
spies4Summer: I am hoping that if it comes down to that, Sam will force Leon's imprisonment
spies4Summer: We've already had 2 citizens expelled and 2 forced exiles
spies4Damon: I still think he's a bit scummy.
spies4Summer: Well you had a good point that Emma was an inactive spy, so why not Leon
spies4Damon: BRB While I pack for my holiday. I need time to think too lol
spies4Summer: Oh :-(
spies4Damon: Activity does not a Spy make. Inactivity does not a Citizen make.
spies4Damon: Won't be long. It's only an overnight.
spies4Summer: I know ... I'm just sad because we never talk anymore and you said I was the only person you don't actually suspect
spies4Summer: Anyway I think a forced imprisonment is the right choice for Sam to make but it's his call
spies4Summer: We know now that all of the Kiyoshi voters were citizens
spies4Summer: Which means that the spies have no problem with voting together to carry out an agenda
spies4Summer: And Leon didn't vote for Beverly - I still think the last Traditionalist is on that side of the vote, again, because both spy groups have shown they will vote together
spies4Damon: Ok. Round 1: Damon vs. Daypack - Daypack wins.
spies4Summer: Yay :-)
spies4Damon: You'r rooting against me? That hurts
spies4Summer: You will learn and prove victorious in round 2 :-)
spies4Summer: It was a learning experience
spies4Damon: Now where were we before the mean daypack interrupted? Ah yes.. something about a backrub I believe?
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: If Singe had been included in the script-writing, it would have taken a different turn
spies4Summer: He posted "BAD, BAD SUMMER."
spies4Damon: What kind of turn?
spies4Summer: :-(
spies4Damon: Yes. A sad face is descriptive.
spies4Summer: Will you be back for Saturday's exile?
spies4Damon: Nope.
spies4Damon: I'll have to vote tomorrow morning.
spies4Summer: Bunni's post is giving me a headache
spies4Summer: If I wasn't voting Kip, I'd vote for her
spies4Damon: I thought you werern't sure you were voting for Kip.
spies4Summer: I posted my vote a few minutes ago
spies4Summer: It could change but I doubt it will
spies4Summer: Think about it this way
spies4Summer: We either get a confirmed citizen or a spy
spies4Damon: I don't see that as a win win.
spies4Summer: Why not?
spies4Damon: If we lose Kip we lose someone who's been an active participant.
spies4Summer: If Kip is a spy that's fantastic
spies4Damon: And if he's a Cit that's rubbish.
spies4Summer: If Kip isn't a spy Candy confirms that he was telling the truth about someone who has the power to protect her from imprisonment
spies4Damon: The only thing against Kip is this latest debacle. I still have at least 3 other candiates ranked higher than him with that included. Significantly higher.
spies4Summer: Well you can't vote for Kip anyway
spies4Damon: And you lose a good Cit in the process.
spies4Damon: All of this centers around Candy, or don't you see that?
spies4Summer: Yes, and I'm fine with that because her role has checked out with everything that's gone on in this game so far
spies4Damon: Isn't anyone else tired of marching to the beat of her drummer?
spies4Damon: That doesn't mean her theories and opinions are automatically validated.
spies4Summer: Do you have a better theory?
spies4Damon: About Kip and Candy? No. I have better suspects though.
spies4Summer: I don't see how you can beat "We get a confirmed citizen with a role or we get a spy"
spies4Damon: I don't see why you'd throw Kip under the bus simply to prove her theory.
spies4Summer: Because we're down to 12 people
spies4Summer: And 3 are spies
spies4Damon: But what do I matter? I can't even vote him anyways.
spies4Summer: If she's right, we get the 2nd spy out next
spies4Summer: Make your vote count anyway
spies4Summer: Vote for one of your suspects
spies4Summer: I have to go
spies4Summer: I'll talk to you soon?
spies4Damon: Probably not since I'll be gone this weekend. But enjoy your's.

[Kate (Damon)]

To Kip from Damon:

What's Going on?
« Message sent on Today at 5:31pm » [Reply]

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Alright Brother,

What's going on? Why not share that cod with me? What's this about the Role Investigation? You know that I trust you and I thought you trusted me but this puts everything into a new light. I can't vote you and I wouldn't vote you if I could. I've been making my case around the Burg for you as best as I can. As a Spy it wouldn't make sense for you to lie especially if it was to cover another Spy. As a cit there's no sense in you lying either. Let me know what's going on about this drama and especially about the vote. I want you in this game because I do trust you even if you apparently don't trust me.


Damon

Kip to Damon

Re: What's Going on?
« Message sent on Yesterday at 11:15pm » [Reply]

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Gordy came to me saying the Orthodoxy chose me for a "prize" and that the Fatemaker wanted to give it to me. The prize was a Citizen Role Investigation. He made me promise to investigate someone who was claiming a role. I did as asked and the investigation turned up positive, that said player had a CITIZEN ROLE. I told only Gordy and the player he asked me to pick. Gordy then told the Fatemaker, which is now revealed to be Candy. I never told you or anyone else, because the only people I knew to be 100% confirmed Citizens are the person I IDed and now Candy. I trust you a lot more than everyone, but you could be playing me. Any other questions?

To Kip from Damon

Re: What's Going on?
« Message sent on Today at 1:16am » [Reply]

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Here's my leap of faith, bro: I told Sam I wanted my vote to be the same as your's while I'm away. Check with him to see if he went with that decision. If not my list was Faizah, Leon and then Singe. You shouldn't be made a martyr for Candy's causes and I'm in full belief you're a Citizen. Don't prove me wrong and turn me into a fool. Have a great weekend.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4kip: damon
spies4kip: sam will not let you vote along side me
spies4Damon: You sure?
*** Auto-response from spies4kip: New and improved... and away. Back later!
spies4kip: i highly doubt it
spies4Damon: I've got to be out of my house in 5 minutes. Find a solution and quick.
spies4kip: masaki
spies4kip: thats who im going to push for
spies4Damon: I'll go cange my post now
spies4kip: ok
spies4Damon: Done. I have to go. Good luck.
spies4kip: thanks
spies4kip: ttyl
spies4Damon: Dag

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4kip: damon!!! :-(
spies4Damon: Kip!
spies4Damon: You didn't go!
spies4kip: i will
spies4kip: it tied
spies4kip: and singe is forced to vote for me
spies4kip: due to families
spies4Damon: What does that mean?
spies4Damon: For the revote?
spies4kip: so unless i can change someones opinion, im done
spies4kip: well summer, candy, hannah, faizah, masaki all voted me
spies4Damon: Who voted whom?
spies4Damon: No surprise there.
spies4kip: me you leon bunni and zander voted masaki
spies4kip: singe voted faizah
spies4kip: 5-5-1 tie
spies4kip: cuz of families, me and you are forced to vote masaki
spies4Damon: Guess we know who's part of the cool clique.
spies4kip: singe and masaki must vote me
spies4kip: candy summer hannah faizah all vote me too, 5-4 i go
spies4Damon:
spies4Damon: I thought Faizah was leaning towards Masaki? A fake out?
spies4kip: obviously
spies4kip: masaki was leaning towards faizah too
spies4kip: *rolls eyes*
spies4kip: i need you to answer this for me though
spies4kip: damon, who are your top three spy suspects (excluding me)?
spies4kip: assuming i turn up citizen
spies4Damon: Singe, Leon.. was Candy I'd prelace it with Hannah now
spies4Damon: I believe you're a Citizen.
spies4kip: and why them?
spies4Damon: Reading through the forum now.
spies4Damon: I'll give yo my best answer in the state I am in.. but to explain I have had no sleep in the last 48 hours that's worth mentioning.
spies4kip: ouch :-(
spies4Damon: Singe- frequently ocmes off as too helpful, has taken charge of the Burg several times, but to his credit usually is spot on with the Spies. There's the whole Johan thing and that's part of it. Then with Leon it goes along the lines of Angelica's subject changing faiscos and his well timed MIA. And Hannah has rubbed me the wrong way for some time. I know I have more in my little tick lists but too tired to open it unless you insist.
spies4kip: thats good enough
spies4kip: your pm before you left though, mentioned faizah
spies4Damon: For playing the 'I'm a dumb sheep' Card
spies4kip: kk :-)
spies4kip: im just asking everyone this question
spies4kip: and posting everyones combined answers right before sam announces vote
spies4Damon: Have many said me?
spies4kip: none yet
spies4kip: but you're the 4th
spies4Damon: I expect some flack for standing up for you, lol
spies4kip: lol
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spies4Damon: I don't even have the energy to finish reading the board. Is there anything that absolutely should not wait until tomorrow?
spies4kip: not that i kno of
spies4Damon: I've revoted though I didn't need to. And now I'm going to bed. Best wishes and good luck. For what it's worth I hope you didn't pull my leg this whole time because I was counting on us to be the Brotherhood Citizens.
spies4kip: i was honest with ya man
spies4kip: thanks for the support to
spies4kip: it means a lot
spies4Damon: I think Candy's on a power trip. That's what all of this is about.
spies4kip: yeah sam
spies4kip: e
spies4Damon: If there's any last things you want to share just PM me. But I don't expect anything from you.
spies4kip: i really got nothing to hide
spies4kip: if anything ill post it in the burg
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Damon: veel geluk