Conversations, Round 9

[Summer]

spies4Summer (9:10:55 PM): Good evening Masaki
spies4Masaki (9:11:03 PM): hey
spies4Summer (9:11:12 PM): How are you?
spies4Masaki (9:11:16 PM): Not too great
spies4Summer (9:11:21 PM): Oh no
spies4Summer (9:11:25 PM): What's wrong?
spies4Masaki (9:11:39 PM): You probably already know
spies4Masaki (9:11:43 PM): But Candy wants me exiled
spies4Summer (9:11:54 PM): I've heard rumors, yes
spies4Summer (9:12:07 PM): Does she think you're going to imprison her?
spies4Masaki (9:12:21 PM): Well that was the first thing she asked me
spies4Summer (9:12:27 PM): Oh gosh
spies4Summer (9:12:32 PM): That girl has no limits
spies4Masaki (9:12:34 PM): Anyway
spies4Masaki (9:12:37 PM): I'm sure you'll be voting me too
spies4Summer (9:12:43 PM): Why would you say that?
spies4Masaki (9:12:49 PM): Well if it comes down to Candy and me
spies4Masaki (9:12:54 PM): You've made it clear you trust her over me
spies4Summer (9:13:02 PM): Why would it be a choice between you and her?
spies4Masaki (9:13:14 PM): Because I'm fed up with people blindly following her
spies4Masaki (9:13:17 PM): I'm making a case on her
spies4Summer (9:13:21 PM): Why not you and someone else who people actually suspect?
spies4Masaki (9:13:27 PM): Who is there?
spies4Masaki (9:13:28 PM): Leon?
spies4Masaki (9:13:32 PM): That's the best alternative I've heard in a while
spies4Summer (9:13:35 PM): There are 3 spies out there, Masaki
spies4Summer (9:13:39 PM): Who do you suspect?
spies4Summer (9:13:43 PM): Not who are you afraid of
spies4Summer (9:13:45 PM): Who do you suspect?
spies4Masaki (9:13:51 PM): I suspect Candy, Leon is a possible partner for her that I find plausible
spies4Masaki (9:14:06 PM): I'm not afraid of Candy
spies4Masaki (9:14:08 PM): She can have me exiled
spies4Summer (9:14:13 PM): I didn't mean it like that, sorry
spies4Masaki (9:14:19 PM): But I'm not the only picture that's out there
spies4Masaki (9:14:24 PM): The big picture is that the Spies are caught
spies4Summer (9:14:25 PM): I agree
spies4Masaki (9:14:26 PM): If me going is what it takes
spies4Masaki (9:14:27 PM): so be it
spies4Summer (9:14:30 PM): Never forget that there are 3 spies
spies4Masaki (9:14:35 PM): But I'm putting my case out there before that happens
spies4Summer (9:14:39 PM): All right Masaki
spies4Summer (9:14:44 PM): So let's work together and find a way out of this
spies4Masaki (9:14:48 PM): Ain't a way out
spies4Summer (9:14:54 PM): I'd rather not have it come down to a choice between the two of you
spies4Masaki (9:15:02 PM): I'd rather not as well, but that's how it is
spies4Summer (9:15:07 PM): It doesn't have to be
spies4Masaki (9:15:10 PM): Unless you've got some hardcore proof against someone else
spies4Summer (9:15:16 PM): Sadly, I don't
spies4Masaki (9:15:16 PM): Candy's the only person I can relaly make a case against
spies4Masaki (9:15:19 PM): Leon I could make a crummy one
spies4Summer (9:15:25 PM): But I would love to talk things out with you
spies4Summer (9:15:27 PM): Compare notes
spies4Summer (9:15:45 PM): If you have the time, I mean
spies4Masaki (9:15:54 PM): Sure
spies4Masaki (9:15:58 PM): What questions do you have?
spies4Summer (9:16:10 PM): Well if we have time to kill, let's be thorough
spies4Summer (9:16:25 PM): Let's work our way across the families
spies4Summer (9:16:37 PM): I haven't compared notes with anyone in a while
spies4Summer (9:16:47 PM): So my brain could really use someone to talk to
spies4Summer (9:17:06 PM): Hannah's first then
spies4Masaki (9:17:36 PM): Hannah?
spies4Masaki (9:17:41 PM): Only thing I can think of against Hannah....
spies4Summer (9:17:44 PM): Yes, she's in family 1
spies4Masaki (9:18:02 PM): Is really a void point
spies4Summer (9:18:05 PM): She had some conflicts with Kip last round
spies4Summer (9:18:21 PM): But she has been fairly conflict free for a while
spies4Summer (9:19:05 PM): Adelaide accused her of being a spy for the "Don't idle out Emma" thing but that was pretty lowkey
spies4Masaki (9:19:26 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (9:19:31 PM): That was the void point I was talking about
spies4Masaki (9:19:35 PM): I have reason to trust Hannah
spies4Masaki (9:19:52 PM): Can't get into it right now but I will tell someone before exile
spies4Summer (9:19:53 PM): Can you say more or should I let that pass?
spies4Summer (9:19:55 PM): All right
spies4Summer (9:20:05 PM): Are you sure of your reasons?
spies4Masaki (9:20:11 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (9:20:49 PM): I'm not sure about her affiliation
spies4Summer (9:21:04 PM): We haven't talked extensively - most of what I know of her is through her posts
spies4Summer (9:21:14 PM): I'm lucky to get a few lines in on exile day
spies4Masaki (9:22:56 PM): Yeah only talked to her briefly last night but it was basically about how she couldn't see the chat
spies4Summer (9:23:13 PM): Do you trust her because of something she did or something you've heard?
spies4Masaki (9:24:04 PM): Something someone else did
spies4Masaki (9:24:05 PM):
spies4Summer (9:24:33 PM): All right
spies4Masaki (9:24:53 PM): I'm going to tell Singe before exile, so if it needs to be made public, it will be
spies4Masaki (9:25:05 PM): (hopefully)
spies4Summer (9:26:36 PM): Okay
spies4Summer (9:26:52 PM): Just don't put her in danger
spies4Masaki (9:29:07 PM):
spies4Summer (9:31:40 PM):
spies4Masaki (9:31:47 PM): ?
spies4Summer (9:32:09 PM): Well doesn't mean "I won't"
spies4Masaki (9:32:20 PM): Of course I won't
spies4Masaki (9:32:51 PM): Just figured you'd think that was obvious
spies4Masaki (9:32:54 PM):
spies4Summer (9:34:10 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (9:34:13 PM): Is anything obvious?
spies4Summer (9:34:24 PM): Like people ranking me as the third most secure in my opinions?
spies4Summer (9:34:27 PM): That was a huge surprise
spies4Masaki (9:35:24 PM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (9:35:34 PM): I got #6 I think
spies4Masaki (9:35:42 PM): I guess that kind of squashes Zander's theory
spies4Summer (9:35:51 PM): Why? You're in the middle
spies4Masaki (9:36:00 PM): Why single me out then?
spies4Summer (9:36:07 PM): I don't know
spies4Masaki (9:36:10 PM): Leon's much worse
spies4Masaki (9:36:17 PM): He asked me who I was voting episode 3
spies4Summer (9:36:18 PM): I agree
spies4Masaki (9:36:19 PM): "i guess ill do that"
spies4Summer (9:36:28 PM): So he's a bandwagoner?
spies4Masaki (9:36:36 PM): From what I can tell, he is
spies4Masaki (9:36:52 PM): He's just been less vocal, so less of a target
spies4Summer (9:38:06 PM): Isn't that a survival strategy?
spies4Masaki (9:38:22 PM): Yes
spies4Masaki (9:38:32 PM): The problem is there are a lot of people doing it
spies4Masaki (9:38:40 PM): Abrams, Faizah, Leon, just to name a few
spies4Masaki (9:38:50 PM): I don't know as much about the other two because I hardly have the opportunity to speak with them
spies4Summer (9:41:47 PM): That is definitely a problem
spies4Summer (9:41:52 PM): What do you think of Faizah?
spies4Masaki (9:42:01 PM): I think she's a bandwagoner quite frankly
spies4Masaki (9:42:07 PM): She does not offer much of her own
spies4Masaki (9:42:17 PM): But conveniently knows how to vote
spies4Summer (9:43:36 PM): That's a good point
spies4Summer (9:43:51 PM): I am less inclined to think of her as a Traditionalist spy
spies4Summer (9:44:11 PM): Her conversations with Beverly do indicate that Beverly's agenda was to court Faizah and her vote
spies4Masaki (9:44:37 PM): I'd think of Faizah and Leon as potential Orthodoxy
spies4Masaki (9:44:46 PM): I really don't know what to think about Abrams
spies4Masaki (9:44:51 PM): He seems less attatched to the rest of the world
spies4Summer (9:44:56 PM): Do you remember how much of a beating I took when I accused Faizah of being a spy?
spies4Masaki (9:44:55 PM): So he's a tossup
spies4Masaki (9:45:10 PM): Not in particular. What are you referring to?
spies4Summer (9:46:04 PM): Some of it is in my government file
spies4Summer (9:46:06 PM): The Summer Diet
spies4Summer (9:46:11 PM): Other posts as well
spies4Summer (9:46:16 PM): She's protected
spies4Masaki (9:47:21 PM): Reading now
spies4Summer (9:49:20 PM): I remember feeling relieved when Beverly said she wasn't going to start a brigade against me
spies4Summer (9:49:23 PM): Now I feel naive
spies4Masaki (9:49:58 PM): hmm
spies4Masaki (9:50:32 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (9:50:39 PM): It's funny seeing Bev's capslock again
spies4Masaki (9:50:53 PM): Anyway
spies4Masaki (9:51:19 PM): :Well, if you were on AIM instead of just ghostin' the board.....:
spies4Summer (9:51:20 PM): So if you think Faizah and Leon are Orthodoxy spies, let's focus on this
spies4Masaki (9:51:26 PM): You're on more than she is
spies4Summer (9:51:41 PM): What do we have to tie them together?
spies4Masaki (9:51:49 PM): Nothing
spies4Masaki (9:51:52 PM): Literally
spies4Masaki (9:51:59 PM): I couldn't tie them together based on conversations
spies4Masaki (9:52:02 PM): Maybe off stuff in the Burg
spies4Masaki (9:52:09 PM): But why are you so adament about ignoring Candy?
spies4Summer (9:52:41 PM): Because I don't think you're a major spy candidate, and if it comes down to you or her I'll have to make a decision I dont' like
spies4Summer (9:52:49 PM): So why reach that point?
spies4Masaki (9:52:56 PM): Because we're more dangerous
spies4Summer (9:53:05 PM): Says you
spies4Masaki (9:53:20 PM): Leon is not a very good Spy if he is indeed one
spies4Summer (9:53:36 PM): Does my reasoning make sense to you though Masaki?
spies4Masaki (9:53:42 PM): Hmm?
spies4Masaki (9:53:50 PM): About what?
spies4Summer (9:54:01 PM): About not wanting it to come down to a decision between 2 people I don't want to vote out
spies4Masaki (9:55:00 PM): Why do you not want to vote either of us out?
spies4Masaki (9:55:17 PM): Maybe I got the false impression, but I seem to recall thinking you thought of me as a valid spy candidate
spies4Summer (9:55:25 PM): Everyone's valid, yes
spies4Summer (9:55:29 PM): I did read the post though
spies4Summer (9:55:32 PM): Where you outted Angelica
spies4Summer (9:55:36 PM): And I changed my mind
spies4Masaki (9:55:46 PM): That would only cover me for not being Orthodoxy
spies4Summer (9:55:52 PM): True
spies4Summer (9:55:55 PM): But that lowers you down to 1/3
spies4Summer (9:56:05 PM): And there are people who I have 3 chances for
spies4Masaki (9:56:07 PM): Although I would argue my other actions would cover me for Traditionalist
spies4Masaki (9:56:28 PM): Question
spies4Masaki (9:56:42 PM): Why does your gut say Candy is not Orthodoxy? You agreed that my scenario is plausible
spies4Summer (9:57:04 PM): Hold on one moment, someone's at my door
spies4Masaki (9:57:13 PM): Alright
spies4Summer (10:19:29 PM): I'm back
spies4Masaki (10:19:35 PM): welcome back
spies4Summer (10:19:38 PM): Sometimes I love living in a dorm
spies4Summer (10:19:43 PM): Sometimes I don't
spies4Masaki (10:19:46 PM): hehe
spies4Summer (10:20:03 PM): Have you ever lived in one?
spies4Masaki (10:21:40 PM): A dorm? Nope
spies4Masaki (10:21:44 PM): But I know plenty of people who do
spies4Summer (10:21:50 PM): Like me
spies4Masaki (10:22:06 PM): I didn't know you lived in one until....3 minutes ago
spies4Summer (10:22:28 PM): Yep
spies4Masaki (10:22:33 PM): How you liking that?
spies4Summer (10:23:13 PM): Well I often feel guilty because I tend to hole myself up in my room and study
spies4Masaki (10:23:27 PM): Guilty why?
spies4Summer (10:23:36 PM): Well it makes me feel antisocial
spies4Summer (10:23:40 PM): And left out
spies4Summer (10:23:50 PM): But when people do come by and talk I really like it
spies4Masaki (10:24:10 PM): YEah I bet living in a dorm is probably distracting
spies4Masaki (10:24:25 PM): Which would make studying hard, I'd think
spies4Summer (10:25:40 PM): The dorm is very new. The construction crew did a good job making the walls and doors relatively soundproof.
spies4Summer (10:25:50 PM): When you close your door, no one knows you're there
spies4Masaki (10:26:26 PM): ahh
spies4Masaki (10:26:29 PM): Well that's good then
spies4Masaki (10:26:42 PM): But still, I think I'd probably be twitching knowing that there's stuff going on right outside
spies4Summer (10:28:15 PM): You could leave your door open
spies4Summer (10:28:23 PM): Some of the girls almost never close theirs
spies4Masaki (10:29:18 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (10:29:22 PM): Yeah but I mean
spies4Masaki (10:29:30 PM): If I was trying to study or something
spies4Masaki (10:29:34 PM): Knowing there's stuff happening
spies4Masaki (10:29:38 PM): It would be restless
spies4Summer (10:30:30 PM): Well if you were on an all girls floor, yes, I think you would be restless
spies4Masaki (10:30:37 PM): hahahaha
spies4Masaki (10:30:40 PM): you know it!
spies4Summer (10:30:45 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (10:32:29 PM): So how do Leon and Faizah fit together?
spies4Masaki (10:32:41 PM): Both play similarly
spies4Masaki (10:32:47 PM): I'll go look at voting patterns
spies4Summer (10:32:48 PM): Under the radar
spies4Summer (10:32:50 PM): All right
spies4Masaki (10:33:12 PM): My guess is that early on at least, they did not vote similarly
spies4Masaki (10:33:16 PM): I doubt Spies would
spies4Summer (10:33:51 PM): I'm not entirely convinced on this
spies4Summer (10:34:10 PM): The first round's exile votes have shown a clear agenda
spies4Masaki (10:34:55 PM): A lot of votes were tossed around
spies4Masaki (10:35:00 PM): Leon voted Beverly with my family
spies4Masaki (10:35:04 PM): Faizah voted Martha
spies4Masaki (10:35:09 PM): But I guess both work towards the same goal
spies4Summer (10:35:29 PM): Voting for Beverly meant not voting for Kiyoshi
spies4Masaki (10:35:32 PM): Right
spies4Summer (10:35:33 PM): It works out to the same thing
spies4Masaki (10:35:41 PM): Leon couldn't vote Martha but did not vote Kiyoshi
spies4Summer (10:35:44 PM): I had the choice of voting for Martha or someone else since I couldn't vote Kiyoshi
spies4Summer (10:35:52 PM): I chose to vote for someone else
spies4Masaki (10:36:37 PM): Exile 2...
spies4Masaki (10:36:41 PM): Leon voted Hannah
spies4Masaki (10:36:43 PM): Faizah voted Madison
spies4Summer (10:37:24 PM): That is a split vote
spies4Summer (10:37:40 PM): If their votes didn't matter, the split vote theory would make sense
spies4Masaki (10:37:52 PM): They were split in exile 3
spies4Masaki (10:37:54 PM): Leon voted Jeremiah
spies4Masaki (10:37:57 PM): Faizah voted Madison
spies4Masaki (10:38:11 PM): In both cases, they were on the leading wagon
spies4Masaki (10:38:19 PM): Exile 4 was Angelica's exile
spies4Masaki (10:38:21 PM): Faizah did not vote
spies4Summer (10:38:40 PM): Which I will say confuses me
spies4Masaki (10:38:41 PM): Leon voted Angelica
spies4Summer (10:38:45 PM): She and I talked about this in exile 3
spies4Summer (10:38:49 PM): That you could place your vote ahead of time
spies4Masaki (10:39:03 PM): The thing is she didn't get penalties for not posting conversations
spies4Summer (10:39:05 PM): It's even in the burg
spies4Masaki (10:39:06 PM): So it's not as if she was absent
spies4Summer (10:39:10 PM): Right
spies4Masaki (10:39:31 PM): Cain was talking to me about that as well
spies4Masaki (10:39:37 PM): I honestly forgot that she didn't vote
spies4Masaki (10:39:58 PM): Both voted Naomi over Beverly
spies4Summer (10:40:20 PM): Why did Leon vote the way he did?
spies4Masaki (10:40:25 PM): Although Faizah couldn't vote Bev, she still claims she believed Bev
spies4Summer (10:40:28 PM): Oh right I remember
spies4Summer (10:40:32 PM): Leon "didn't want to take a chance"
spies4Summer (10:40:36 PM): Sigh
spies4Masaki (10:40:55 PM): Both voted Naomi in episode 6
spies4Masaki (10:41:30 PM): And neither could vote at the Trial
spies4Masaki (10:41:36 PM): I don't think I'd call that convenient though
spies4Masaki (10:41:47 PM): I seem to recall that being more other people picking than them plotting that
spies4Summer (10:42:40 PM): Right
spies4Summer (10:42:50 PM): The district attorneys
spies4Masaki (10:43:00 PM): Leon voted me
spies4Masaki (10:43:02 PM): Faizah voted Cain
spies4Summer (10:43:36 PM): Leon also couldn't vote for Cain
spies4Masaki (10:43:42 PM): Oh, hmm
spies4Summer (10:43:45 PM): And he didn't choose to be in a family with Cain
spies4Masaki (10:43:58 PM): Good find
spies4Summer (10:44:03 PM): Though it is an extremely beneficial move
spies4Summer (10:44:09 PM): Now he's free to vote for whoever he wants
spies4Summer (10:44:20 PM): Which means that if another Orthodoxy spy is in trouble, he can vote for whoever he needs to to save them
spies4Masaki (10:44:27 PM): It'sboth beneficial and detrimental
spies4Masaki (10:44:48 PM): While he can vote anyone
spies4Masaki (10:44:52 PM): He no longer has that safety
spies4Masaki (10:45:09 PM): Example would be me being in Candy's family
spies4Summer (10:45:18 PM): Is that why you chose her?
spies4Summer (10:45:21 PM): Or did she choose you?
spies4Masaki (10:45:24 PM): I'm not in her family
spies4Masaki (10:45:26 PM): I'm saying if we were
spies4Summer (10:45:29 PM): Last time, I mean
spies4Masaki (10:45:29 PM): I'm in Singes
spies4Masaki (10:45:32 PM): Oh
spies4Masaki (10:45:39 PM): She just hopped in
spies4Masaki (10:45:43 PM): I wanted in with Zander and Singe
spies4Masaki (10:45:48 PM): Singe went elsewhere though
spies4Summer (10:45:57 PM): Why Zander and Singe?
spies4Masaki (10:46:10 PM): We were on the same level earlier on
spies4Masaki (10:46:16 PM): Though Singe didn't trust Zander enough
spies4Masaki (10:52:41 PM): Hmm
spies4Summer (10:53:02 PM): I have an idea I'm investigating
spies4Masaki (10:54:05 PM): Oh?

[Summer]

spies4Summer (10:55:10 PM): I put Singe, Candy, and Damon in my top 3 for "most certain"
spies4Summer (10:55:47 PM): I reread my rankings and my brain started humming
spies4Masaki (10:55:55 PM): I put you as #3
spies4Masaki (10:55:57 PM): Damon #5
spies4Summer (10:56:00 PM): Did you?
spies4Masaki (10:56:06 PM): Yea
spies4Summer (10:56:11 PM): My ranking definitely surprised me
spies4Summer (10:56:20 PM): Pleasantly so, but a surprise still
spies4Summer (10:56:35 PM): Who did you have in your first two, if I may ask?
spies4Masaki (10:56:41 PM): #1 was Singe
spies4Masaki (10:56:44 PM): #2 was Candy
spies4Summer (10:56:58 PM): I should have known
spies4Masaki (10:57:18 PM): The people towards the bottom didn't really matter what order they went in
spies4Masaki (10:57:23 PM): They just had to be in the lower half
spies4Masaki (10:57:34 PM): Anyway, what's your idea?
spies4Summer (10:57:40 PM): When I play Mafia I almost always contribute a lot but in this game contribution seems to equate with being Scummy and most people prefer private conversations and cloak and dagger strategies. It's hard to be one of the lone rangers who would rather play out in the open and it leaves me unbalanced. Do I post more and put a target on myself from 3 sides at once? Or do I sit on knowledge, listen and act?
spies4Summer (10:57:57 PM): Damon asked that
spies4Summer (10:58:03 PM): I found it 2 seconds ago
spies4Summer (10:58:09 PM): ... Why isn't he doing either?
spies4Summer (10:58:35 PM): How could I consider him so certain?
spies4Summer (10:58:54 PM): How can he strike me as the third most certain person here?
spies4Summer (10:59:09 PM): He never asks questions, Masaki
spies4Summer (10:59:18 PM): Have you noticed this?
spies4Masaki (10:59:38 PM): Well with the rare conversations I have, he tends to be helpful
spies4Masaki (10:59:48 PM): As for whether he asks questions or not, I don't really know - I'd have to check that out
spies4Summer (10:59:51 PM): Yes he seems eager and interested
spies4Summer (10:59:54 PM): But certain
spies4Summer (11:00:07 PM): His posts are mainly 3 things
spies4Summer (11:00:11 PM): Irrelevant conversation, which is fine
spies4Summer (11:00:14 PM): Saying he'll be away
spies4Summer (11:00:17 PM): And defending himself
spies4Summer (11:00:40 PM): This isn't sitting right with me
spies4Masaki (11:00:52 PM): I did notice he always posts saying he'll be away
spies4Masaki (11:01:07 PM): And defensive of his playstyle
spies4Summer (11:01:36 PM): But he himself is admitting that's not what he normally does
spies4Summer (11:01:36 PM): When I play Mafia I almost always contribute a lot but in this game contribution seems to equate with being Scummy and most people prefer private conversations and cloak and dagger strategies. It's hard to be one of the lone rangers who would rather play out in the open and it leaves me unbalanced. Do I post more and put a target on myself from 3 sides at once? Or do I sit on knowledge, listen and act?
spies4Masaki (11:01:59 PM): Yeah so he's not living up to the contribution he is claiming, that's what you're saying
spies4Summer (11:02:05 PM): No ...
spies4Summer (11:02:11 PM): I think I just realized what I'm thinking
spies4Masaki (11:02:25 PM): *confused*
spies4Summer (11:02:55 PM): I'm having a really hard time finding the words
spies4Masaki (11:03:46 PM): Start small then
spies4Masaki (11:03:55 PM): Which part of this is standing out to what you're thinking?
spies4Summer (11:04:10 PM): All right
spies4Summer (11:04:19 PM): He's the type of player that gathers information, then acts
spies4Masaki (11:04:22 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (11:04:36 PM): He's not gathering information
spies4Summer (11:04:40 PM): From the burg
spies4Summer (11:04:42 PM): Or conversations
spies4Summer (11:04:47 PM): He posts to say he's not here
spies4Summer (11:04:50 PM): He posts to defend himself
spies4Masaki (11:04:49 PM): Maybe gathering, but not asking
spies4Summer (11:05:03 PM): And he posts "obvious" stuff
spies4Summer (11:05:15 PM): But he's not gathering information
spies4Summer (11:05:34 PM): But he's still here and he's still voting
spies4Summer (11:05:45 PM): I wish I could say this more eloquently
spies4Masaki (11:05:55 PM): His playstyle is not matching what he claims it is
spies4Summer (11:05:59 PM): I think he's asking his questions somewhere else.
spies4Summer (11:06:13 PM): He's not really eager for information when he talks to me or when he posts
spies4Summer (11:06:21 PM): He's so SURE
spies4Summer (11:06:33 PM): I think someone's filling him in
spies4Summer (11:06:55 PM): This is coming completely from my instincts
spies4Masaki (11:07:03 PM): That'd require him to be Orthodoxy
spies4Summer (11:07:15 PM): I suppose it would
spies4Summer (11:07:27 PM): He hasn't stepped up now that Beverly and Naomi aren't here
spies4Masaki (11:07:28 PM): Because he has been doing this all throughout the game
spies4Masaki (11:07:42 PM): And even though the Spies are communicating
spies4Masaki (11:07:46 PM): Well....
spies4Masaki (11:07:54 PM): I guess it's possible they started after Naomi left
spies4Masaki (11:08:05 PM): I just doubt that scenario
spies4Summer (11:08:19 PM): I think he would have gone public to fulfill his need for information if he was the last spy left
spies4Summer (11:08:38 PM): This just isn't sitting right with me
spies4Masaki (11:08:54 PM): Moreso than Leon/Faizah?
spies4Masaki (11:08:57 PM): A lot isn't sitting right with me
spies4Masaki (11:09:02 PM): I just can't pick what I want to go after
spies4Masaki (11:09:13 PM): Part of me still wants to go after Candy
spies4Masaki (11:09:20 PM): If she is a Spy, she is the biggest threat this game has
spies4Masaki (11:09:31 PM): *sigh*
spies4Masaki (11:09:40 PM): I'm fucked either way
spies4Summer (11:09:45 PM): Don't say that
spies4Summer (11:09:57 PM): Do you remember your critique?
spies4Masaki (11:10:02 PM): Which one?
spies4Masaki (11:10:06 PM): The drunken fatemaker?
spies4Summer (11:10:12 PM): One moment
spies4Masaki (11:10:12 PM): Or the people saying I'm hateful?
spies4Summer (11:10:32 PM): You're very likely a spy, Masaki. To survive, you'll need to pretend to care about people and start pretending to play proactively. If, on the off chance that you're a citizen, you're going to need to catch a spy soon on a theory that you put together yourself.
spies4Masaki (11:10:51 PM): Catching a Spy won't help me
spies4Summer (11:10:56 PM): It works wonders
spies4Masaki (11:11:00 PM): Everyone thinks I am a Traditionalist
spies4Masaki (11:11:04 PM): "naturally he would want to catch them"
spies4Summer (11:11:19 PM): I don't think you believe that.
spies4Masaki (11:11:20 PM): Catching the real Trad, as Cain is now gone, I don't know
spies4Summer (11:11:29 PM): If you can't do it Masaki, who can?
spies4Summer (11:11:35 PM): You're one of the smartest people here
spies4Masaki (11:11:42 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (11:11:56 PM): Look at it this way
spies4Masaki (11:12:04 PM): It's a 1/12 shot from my point of view
spies4Masaki (11:12:14 PM): Well
spies4Masaki (11:12:16 PM): 1/11
spies4Masaki (11:12:24 PM): (i think)
spies4Summer (11:12:30 PM): Minus Singe or Hannah?
spies4Masaki (11:12:33 PM): Gordy
spies4Masaki (11:12:35 PM): Hannah
spies4Masaki (11:12:35 PM): me
spies4Summer (11:12:54 PM): That would make it 1/10
spies4Masaki (11:13:02 PM): There are 14 players still
spies4Masaki (11:13:06 PM): Gordy filled in the gap
spies4Summer (11:13:12 PM): All right
spies4Masaki (11:13:16 PM): Anyway
spies4Masaki (11:13:21 PM): I am at a loss for the Trads now
spies4Summer (11:13:30 PM): Why is 1/11 impossible?
spies4Masaki (11:13:36 PM): Not impossible
spies4Masaki (11:13:49 PM): Ok I take it back
spies4Summer (11:13:51 PM): I guarantee you'd be considered a hero if you caught a spy
spies4Masaki (11:13:52 PM): It is 1/10
spies4Masaki (11:13:56 PM): Only because of imprisonment though
spies4Summer (11:14:00 PM): Oh right
spies4Summer (11:14:01 PM):
spies4Summer (11:14:13 PM): How depressing
spies4Summer (11:14:25 PM): Be more out there, man. You're highly logical and seem to spot patterns in behavior that other people miss.
spies4Masaki (11:14:36 PM): Either Singe or Zander wrote that one
spies4Masaki (11:14:37 PM): I can tell
spies4Summer (11:14:57 PM): It's good advice
spies4Masaki (11:15:58 PM): Well I've been trying to be more active in the Burg
spies4Masaki (11:16:14 PM): But, I dunno
spies4Masaki (11:16:19 PM): I got a lot of enemies now
spies4Masaki (11:18:24 PM): Hmm I wonder who accused me
spies4Masaki (11:18:29 PM): Zander swears it isn't him
spies4Masaki (11:19:32 PM): apparently my identity got out early on
spies4Masaki (11:19:41 PM): I told Kip #1
spies4Summer (11:19:57 PM): Oh no
spies4Masaki (11:19:57 PM): Because I figured out who he was because he left his avatar on regular AIM on for his Kip IM
spies4Masaki (11:20:03 PM): Figured I'd play fair
spies4Masaki (11:20:11 PM): Then Singe somehow finds out
spies4Masaki (11:20:18 PM): And then Zander
spies4Masaki (11:20:20 PM): haha
spies4Summer (11:20:29 PM): Do you think Singe tattled?
spies4Masaki (11:20:31 PM): Nah
spies4Masaki (11:20:41 PM): Singe told me, but he has never played Spies before
spies4Masaki (11:20:45 PM): So he'd have no reason to test it
spies4Masaki (11:20:54 PM): He knows me from another site
spies4Summer (11:21:04 PM): Are you two friends there?
spies4Masaki (11:21:08 PM): I dunno
spies4Masaki (11:21:12 PM): He didn't tell me who HE was
spies4Masaki (11:21:15 PM): Only that he knew me
spies4Summer (11:21:49 PM): Maybe he likes you
spies4Summer (11:21:52 PM): Secretly
spies4Summer (11:21:54 PM): In that way
spies4Masaki (11:21:58 PM): he does to an extent
spies4Summer (11:22:02 PM): Oh
spies4Masaki (11:22:07 PM): Remember when he tricked people about the investigation?
spies4Summer (11:22:18 PM): And he said he loved you too much to try and fool you
spies4Masaki (11:22:34 PM): sorta
spies4Masaki (11:22:37 PM): how'd you know about that ?
spies4Summer (11:23:02 PM): You posted it publically
spies4Masaki (11:23:18 PM): [Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:21:15 PM] spies4Masaki: Why didn't you try pressuring me?
[Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:22:50 PM] spies4Singe: because i have respect for you lol
[Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:23:05 PM] spies4Singe: if i have to catch you i'd rather it not be cheap
[Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:23:10 PM] spies4Masaki: haha
[Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:23:16 PM] spies4Masaki: Play dirty Singe
[Monday, 10-22-2007, 21:23:21 PM] spies4Masaki: There's no honor in this game
spies4Summer (11:23:29 PM): He doesn't want to be cheap
spies4Summer (11:23:39 PM): That's cute
spies4Masaki (11:24:37 PM): I think he liked my encryption idea
spies4Summer (11:24:48 PM): What encryption idea?
spies4Masaki (11:24:59 PM): Well that convo was right after Gordy got his investigation
spies4Masaki (11:25:12 PM): But the big debate before was how to use the investigation if a Citizen was caught
spies4Masaki (11:25:17 PM): So, you know, Spies didn't find out
spies4Masaki (11:25:25 PM): He was going to tell 2 people the name of the Citizen
spies4Masaki (11:25:27 PM): In case one was a Spy
spies4Masaki (11:25:32 PM): I told him, better way to do it
spies4Masaki (11:25:42 PM): Would be to encrypt a message with the name of the Citizen, and give the key to the Citizen
spies4Masaki (11:25:53 PM): So if Singe was imprisoned, the Citizen could produce the key to unlock the message and prove their innocence
spies4Masaki (11:25:59 PM): Foolproof way to handle it
spies4Summer (11:26:26 PM): Interesting
spies4Summer (11:26:29 PM): And clever
spies4Masaki (11:29:22 PM): Yea too bad it never got used
spies4Summer (11:29:33 PM): Oh no
spies4Summer (11:29:36 PM): I'm glad it never got used
spies4Masaki (11:29:37 PM): haha
spies4Summer (11:29:39 PM): Getting a spy out was way better
spies4Masaki (11:29:39 PM): well true
spies4Masaki (11:29:41 PM): but you know
spies4Masaki (11:29:43 PM): ego thing
spies4Summer (11:30:35 PM): It was a great idea
spies4Summer (11:33:21 PM): Oh also
spies4Summer (11:33:23 PM): You can't vote Bunni
spies4Summer (11:33:25 PM): So 1/10
spies4Summer (11:33:27 PM): 1/9
spies4Masaki (11:33:30 PM): Well
spies4Masaki (11:33:37 PM): That doesn't lower the probability of her being the Spy I mean
spies4Summer (11:33:40 PM): I forgot about that
spies4Summer (11:33:58 PM): Right but it means that if you need to nail a spy to save your butt - and I think you do - you have a 2/9 or a 3/9 shot of doing it
spies4Masaki (11:34:39 PM): You really don't think I should go against Candy, eh?
spies4Masaki (11:34:46 PM): I'm not afraid of her
spies4Summer (11:35:43 PM): It's not a question of being afraid
spies4Summer (11:35:51 PM): It's a question of 1) Finding the spies
spies4Summer (11:35:59 PM): 2) Making people realize you're capable of catching spies
spies4Summer (11:36:17 PM): 3) Preventing a lose-lose exile scenario
spies4Masaki (11:36:31 PM): Not necessarily lose-lose
spies4Masaki (11:36:38 PM): I think Candy is very possibly the last Orthodoxy
spies4Masaki (11:36:41 PM): Err
spies4Summer (11:36:43 PM): I wouldn't want to vote either of you out
spies4Masaki (11:36:43 PM): One of the Orthodoxy
spies4Summer (11:36:45 PM): Oh boy
spies4Masaki (11:36:48 PM): Freudian slip?
spies4Masaki (11:36:49 PM):
spies4Summer (11:36:58 PM): Who's the second Orthodoxy Masaki?
spies4Masaki (11:37:08 PM): If Candy
spies4Masaki (11:37:10 PM): Leon probably
spies4Summer (11:37:58 PM): Don't make that kind of contigency
spies4Masaki (11:38:19 PM): Hmm?
spies4Summer (11:39:19 PM): It will rain tomorrow if it's cloudy today
spies4Summer (11:39:24 PM): What if it's not cloudy today?
spies4Masaki (11:40:34 PM): Could stil lrain tomorrow
spies4Summer (11:41:34 PM): Leon still could be a spy, yes
spies4Masaki (11:43:29 PM): Yeah, I know
spies4Masaki (11:43:32 PM): but I think Candy would reinforce that
spies4Masaki (11:43:51 PM): I dunno, you're one of the few who will support her questionlessly
spies4Masaki (12:09:31 AM): So of these people
spies4Masaki (12:09:35 AM): Who would you suggest we go after?
spies4Masaki (12:09:38 AM): Faizah?
spies4Summer (12:31:18 AM): I'm sorry Masaki
spies4Summer (12:31:20 AM): Real life emergency
spies4Masaki (12:31:25 AM): Real life comes first
spies4Summer (12:31:32 AM): Crisis averted for now
spies4Masaki (12:31:38 AM): Flooded dorm?
spies4Summer (12:31:58 AM): Next door neighbor having a mental breakdown
spies4Summer (12:32:08 AM): She's a wonderful girl but she has problems
spies4Masaki (12:32:34 AM): ahhh damn
spies4Summer (12:32:54 AM): Well ... she's a wonderful girl and she has problems
spies4Summer (12:33:18 AM): So where were we
spies4Summer (12:33:28 AM): I don't support anyone questionlessly
spies4Summer (12:34:12 AM): As far as my major spy suspects go ...
spies4Masaki (12:35:00 AM): I dunno you seem sold on Candy being Cit
spies4Summer (12:35:20 AM): And you
spies4Summer (12:35:46 AM): I've looked at the facts and I do the best I can
spies4Masaki (12:35:51 AM): It's fine
spies4Summer (12:35:55 AM): You wouldn't exile Singe
spies4Summer (12:36:02 AM): Are you supporting him questionlessly?
spies4Masaki (12:36:10 AM): There isn't much on Singe
spies4Masaki (12:36:13 AM): There is stuff on Candy
spies4Masaki (12:36:14 AM): But like I said
spies4Masaki (12:36:16 AM): It's fine
spies4Summer (12:36:40 AM): What do you suggest?
spies4Masaki (12:37:27 AM): I suggest I think about this
spies4Masaki (12:37:56 AM): But like I said
spies4Masaki (12:37:59 AM): If I'm exiled
spies4Masaki (12:38:01 AM): Remember what I said
spies4Masaki (12:38:06 AM): Don't blindly follow her to the end of the game
spies4Summer (12:38:23 AM): All right
spies4Masaki (12:38:32 AM): For now though
spies4Masaki (12:38:36 AM): I need to log off
spies4Masaki (12:38:43 AM): Take care Summer!
spies4Summer (12:38:50 AM): Good night Masaki

[Summer]

spies4Summer (9:24:11 PM): Hi Gordy!
spies4Gordy (9:24:39 PM): img98.imageshack.us/img98/2167/singepwndyu6.gif
spies4Gordy (9:24:39 PM): o]0
spies4Gordy (9:24:42 PM): o
spies4Gordy (9:24:47 PM): hi
spies4Gordy (9:24:49 PM): summer
spies4Gordy (9:24:54 PM): nice
spies4Gordy (9:24:55 PM): to
spies4Gordy (9:24:57 PM): see you
spies4Gordy (9:24:59 PM): again
spies4Gordy (9:25:00 PM): 1
spies4Summer (9:25:02 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Gordy (9:25:07 PM): typing w one hand sorry
spies4Gordy (9:25:08 PM):
spies4Summer (9:25:12 PM): GAS <3
spies4Gordy (9:25:16 PM): <3 sum
spies4Summer (9:25:20 PM):
spies4Gordy (9:25:27 PM): anything new?
spies4Summer (9:25:36 PM): I'm still in shock that Angelica kissed you and killed you
spies4Summer (9:25:54 PM): I was so naive
spies4Summer (9:26:12 PM): I just realized why you're typing with one hand
spies4Summer (9:26:16 PM): We can talk later ....
spies4Gordy (9:26:32 PM): o.o
spies4Gordy (9:26:36 PM): no go on
spies4Gordy (9:26:40 PM): i a m l
spies4Gordy (9:26:43 PM): eaving at 7pm
spies4Gordy (9:26:56 PM): this
spies4Gordy (9:27:00 PM): may be our only cjance
spies4Gordy (9:27:02 PM): to talk
spies4Gordy (9:27:03 PM): tonght
spies4Summer (9:27:07 PM): All right
spies4Summer (9:27:17 PM): I do have a lot I want to ask you!
spies4Summer (9:27:39 PM): What's the story with the Singe and the anvil photochop?
spies4Gordy (9:28:09 PM): i am sick of people drinking singe's koolaid
spies4Gordy (9:28:20 PM): they trat him like a god'
spies4Summer (9:28:28 PM): You think so too huh?
spies4Gordy (9:28:32 PM): LL says he
spies4Gordy (9:28:36 PM): is the last trad
spies4Summer (9:28:47 PM): .... For real?
spies4Gordy (9:28:51 PM): speculation
spies4Gordy (9:28:54 PM): because everyone
spies4Gordy (9:28:58 PM): trusts singe
spies4Summer (9:29:01 PM): That would be a nightmare!!!
spies4Gordy (9:29:01 PM): yet never imp
spies4Gordy (9:29:26 PM): let's say he was the trad with naomi
spies4Summer (9:29:33 PM): Okay
spies4Gordy (9:29:34 PM): naomi voted to imp me
spies4Gordy (9:29:41 PM): singe was away on vacation
spies4Gordy (9:29:49 PM): so he`couldnt vote for someone elsr
spies4Gordy (9:29:59 PM): so only naomi's vote to imp me counted
spies4Gordy (9:30:17 PM): or something to that effect
spies4Gordy (9:30:26 PM): and youd think that
spies4Gordy (9:30:31 PM): if cain was`the trad
spies4Gordy (9:30:36 PM): he'd try saving me from imp
spies4Gordy (9:30:47 PM): because we were close
spies4Summer (9:30:52 PM): All right
spies4Summer (9:31:10 PM): So you think the last spy couldn't be someone who would say "Let's not imprison Gordy"
spies4Gordy (9:32:03 PM): bev had a noose around me
spies4Gordy (9:32:09 PM): if naomi was`exiled over bev
spies4Gordy (9:32:19 PM): bev would have kept me safe from imp
spies4Gordy (9:32:27 PM): and use me to sniff out orthos
spies4Summer (9:32:32 PM): To continue milking you for information?
spies4Summer (9:32:37 PM): So you really did have a role
spies4Gordy (9:32:37 PM): yE
spies4Gordy (9:32:42 PM): well yes
spies4Summer (9:32:45 PM): Oh god
spies4Gordy (9:33:00 PM): LL loves you
spies4Summer (9:33:04 PM): So the spies really did take you out for that reason
spies4Summer (9:33:05 PM): Me?
spies4Summer (9:33:11 PM): No one notices me, Gordy
spies4Gordy (9:33:18 PM): wuthiout bev, the trads had no use for me
spies4Summer (9:33:26 PM): I got 1 critique. Nobody knows I'm even here
spies4Gordy (9:33:31 PM): so the last trad has gotta be someone im not close to
spies4Gordy (9:33:34 PM): LOL
spies4Gordy (9:33:35 PM): <3
spies4Summer (9:33:37 PM): That would make sense
spies4Summer (9:33:41 PM): Someone who had no use for you
spies4Gordy (9:33:45 PM): singe
spies4Gordy (9:33:49 PM): is still my guess
spies4Summer (9:33:57 PM): How could you have helped sniff out Orthodoxy spies?
spies4Gordy (9:35:10 PM): i told bev that "I had one inv to use as a reward for being imprsoned
spies4Summer (9:37:01 PM): So Naomi knew you wouldn't tell her
spies4Summer (9:37:04 PM): Ohhhhhh
spies4Summer (9:37:08 PM): This is all making so much sense
spies4Gordy (9:37:11 PM): Angie
spies4Gordy (9:37:15 PM): 's team imprisoned me
spies4Gordy (9:37:20 PM): the night no one was imp'ed
spies4Gordy (9:37:27 PM): and then Naomi, thanks to Jer blabbing to her about my role
spies4Gordy (9:37:31 PM): imprisoned me the next round
spies4Gordy (9:37:36 PM): so I shot in the foot by Jer since round 3
spies4Gordy (9:37:55 PM): and I LOATHED naoi
spies4Gordy (9:38:10 PM): so it made perfect sense she'd choose to imp me along with someone else who voted for me, or couldn't voted at all (singe)
spies4Summer (9:38:26 PM): Instead of trying to use you for information
spies4Gordy (9:38:28 PM): yes
spies4Gordy (9:38:31 PM): she knew I hated her guts
spies4Summer (9:38:33 PM): No WONDER the Traditionalist wanted to keep Beverly in
spies4Gordy (9:38:43 PM): yes, they culd have milked me for al my worth
spies4Summer (9:38:53 PM): Singe has been counterarguing this the whole time
spies4Gordy (9:38:52 PM): so it's only logical the last trad is someone I dislike
spies4Summer (9:39:06 PM): "Why would the spies care if Beverly went? She was doomed anyway"
spies4Summer (9:39:10 PM): And that's why they cared
spies4Summer (9:39:18 PM): Because they wanted to keep your relationship with Beverly
spies4Gordy (9:39:18 PM): the sole reason is because Bev had me and Cain wrapped around her finger
spies4Gordy (9:39:28 PM): selling us on the "pass the tiebreaker between me/bev/cain"
spies4Summer (9:39:38 PM): That's another reason why
spies4Gordy (9:39:37 PM): you nailed it summer
spies4Summer (9:39:41 PM): Gordy, you're a genius
spies4Summer (9:39:46 PM): That's it, isn't it
spies4Summer (9:39:53 PM): There really was a plan to keep Beverly in over Naomi
spies4Gordy (9:39:52 PM): she manipulated me
spies4Gordy (9:39:56 PM): I feel so awful I got played
spies4Summer (9:40:00 PM): And Singe didn't even vote Beverly or Naomi
spies4Summer (9:40:02 PM): He voted Leon
spies4Summer (9:40:08 PM): Because
spies4Summer (9:40:10 PM): Unlike Cain
spies4Gordy (9:40:10 PM): I'm telling you, it's possible Singe could be the hidden trad
spies4Summer (9:40:12 PM): In his words
spies4Summer (9:40:18 PM): He's not stupid enough to vote that way
spies4Summer (9:40:26 PM): Gordy, brilliant
spies4Summer (9:40:29 PM): Absolutely brilliant
spies4Summer (9:40:33 PM): You and the LL have it
spies4Gordy (9:40:38 PM): NO ONE will exile Singe at this rate, so you will need to blindside him sometime
spies4Summer (9:40:48 PM): Masaki's trying to blindside Candy
spies4Gordy (9:40:51 PM): he told me
spies4Gordy (9:40:56 PM): don't tell MAsaki what I told you
spies4Gordy (9:40:59 PM): please
spies4Summer (9:41:01 PM): I won't
spies4Gordy (9:41:04 PM): He has a history of blabbing
spies4Summer (9:41:10 PM): Masaki will need to be blindsided as well
spies4Summer (9:41:18 PM): Does everyone in the LL agree with you?
spies4Gordy (9:41:20 PM): I am keeping my mouth shut around him because I think he is a spy
spies4Summer (9:41:26 PM): Martha, Sherri, Ralph, Jeremiah ...
spies4Gordy (9:41:34 PM): my opinion on Singe is pretty much the same as LL: Singe is very likely a spy
spies4Summer (9:42:12 PM): Do you all have any other good pieces of evidence like that?
spies4Summer (9:42:21 PM): Things I haven't noticed?
spies4Gordy (9:43:12 PM): Singe
spies4Gordy (9:43:16 PM): was gone a long time
spies4Gordy (9:43:22 PM): so he's basing his evidence on old ass shit
spies4Gordy (9:43:28 PM): like Bev's exile
spies4Gordy (9:43:30 PM): he wasn't there for that
spies4Gordy (9:43:35 PM): so he pulls evidence from before that itme
spies4Gordy (9:43:58 PM): um I'm trying to remember what else LL said
spies4Gordy (9:44:09 PM): Addy hates Zander
spies4Gordy (9:44:13 PM): Martha too
spies4Summer (9:44:31 PM): I think right now Zander hates Zander
spies4Gordy (9:44:33 PM): Martha got "pwnd" by the spies because she was trying to target Angelica in round 1
spies4Gordy (9:44:41 PM): Zander loves Levi Kreiss
spies4Summer (9:45:16 PM): Oh my gosh
spies4Summer (9:45:20 PM): The guy from the Apprentice?
spies4Summer (9:45:25 PM): I have that song on my computer
spies4Summer (9:45:48 PM): I didn't know anyone else had ever heard of him
spies4Gordy (9:46:19 PM): LEvi was on the Apprentice?
spies4Summer (9:46:36 PM): Oh yes
spies4Gordy (9:46:41 PM): season 4?
spies4Summer (9:46:43 PM): There was an episode in Randall's season
spies4Gordy (9:46:47 PM): ooooooh
spies4Summer (9:46:53 PM): He sang this great song
spies4Gordy (9:46:54 PM): I was thinking Zander's gay
spies4Summer (9:46:56 PM): "Nothing can be everything"
spies4Gordy (9:47:06 PM): I think I know what episode you're talking about, the one where Clay was fired
spies4Summer (9:47:10 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (9:47:14 PM): That's the one
spies4Gordy (9:47:15 PM):
spies4Gordy (9:47:20 PM): Zander loves Levi
spies4Summer (9:47:24 PM): Doesn't Cain's picture look like Clay?
spies4Gordy (9:50:12 PM): kinda
spies4Gordy (9:50:23 PM): I wanted Cain so badly, but he rejetced my advances
spies4Gordy (9:50:30 PM): anyways, it sucks Cain was exield as a cit
spies4Summer (9:50:34 PM): Cain will see the error of his ways
spies4Gordy (9:50:37 PM): he was a bad cit
spies4Summer (9:50:42 PM):
spies4Gordy (9:50:44 PM): it's true
spies4Gordy (9:50:48 PM): but I liked him
spies4Summer (9:50:49 PM): I regret my vote now knowing that he was a citizen
spies4Summer (9:50:53 PM): At the time it seemed like the right choice
spies4Summer (9:50:59 PM): Does the LL really notice me, let alone love me?
spies4Gordy (9:53:39 PM):
spies4Gordy (9:53:47 PM): you campaigned for Cain. I hate you
spies4Gordy (9:53:58 PM): I actually made a hate thread for you in LL because I was bored
spies4Gordy (9:54:01 PM): but eveyrone lieks you
spies4Gordy (9:54:02 PM):
spies4Gordy (9:54:15 PM): I made a Cain love thread too
spies4Gordy (9:54:18 PM): if that helps
spies4Summer (9:54:35 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (9:54:46 PM): It's nice to be liked or even hated I guess
spies4Gordy (9:56:31 PM): we love you
spies4Gordy (9:56:34 PM): ignore my hate thread
spies4Gordy (9:56:40 PM): I was a bored man
spies4Gordy (9:56:45 PM): but LL is lively
spies4Gordy (9:56:53 PM): the sad thing is that GRACE is more active than dAmon
spies4Gordy (9:56:58 PM): very sad indeed
spies4Summer (9:57:23 PM): I know you have to go Gordy but someone's at my door
spies4Summer (9:57:35 PM): I'm not ignoring you
spies4Gordy (9:57:58 PM): O.o

[Summer]

spies4Summer (10:21:34 PM): Hi Faizah
spies4Faizah (10:22:58 PM): Hey!
spies4Faizah (10:23:02 PM): Can you change your font?
spies4Faizah (10:23:08 PM): Masaki is running scared
spies4Faizah (10:23:38 PM): He was telling me how Candy suspected him, then when I said I did too (because of the Bev thing mainly) he has sent me no joke, like 10 paragraphs as to why he isnt a spy
spies4Summer (10:24:12 PM): Anything good?
spies4Summer (10:24:17 PM): OH right font
spies4Summer (10:24:20 PM): Sorry
spies4Summer (10:24:25 PM): Did he say anything good?
spies4Summer (10:24:30 PM): He seems in panic mode
spies4Faizah (10:24:29 PM): ummm lemme see
spies4Summer (10:24:34 PM): I'm trying to calm him down
spies4Faizah (10:24:54 PM): spies4Masaki: There's a difference between believing Candy used the investigation, and believing Beverly was a Spy
spies4Summer (10:24:58 PM): His response is to go after her instead of the spies, and I told him I didn't want it to come down to a Masaki against Candy exile
spies4Faizah (10:25:09 PM): I thought that was weird, because who EVER doubted Candy used the investigation??? why would anyone doubt that
spies4Faizah (10:25:47 PM): ps I told him I was on the phone if he asks why I am not talking to him
spies4Faizah (10:25:48 PM): hahaha
spies4Summer (10:25:58 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (10:26:07 PM): He's pretty fixated on it
spies4Summer (10:26:11 PM): I've given it some thought
spies4Summer (10:26:21 PM): He thinks that she's an Orthodoxy spy and that's how she knew - BUT
spies4Summer (10:26:38 PM): If she was an Orthodoxy spy, why would she go after a Traditionalist when it was Beverly's team's turn to imprison next?
spies4Summer (10:26:46 PM): It was unnecessarily risky for a team that's down to 2 people
spies4Faizah (10:26:47 PM): She wouldnt
spies4Faizah (10:26:54 PM): Plus it hurts the spies numbers all together
spies4Faizah (10:27:02 PM): And I dont think she would be willing to risk that
spies4Summer (10:27:11 PM): I can see her risking it as a desperate citizen
spies4Summer (10:27:17 PM): But as a spy, there would be no reason for her to be desperate
spies4Faizah (10:27:19 PM): I can see her risking it later down the road
spies4Summer (10:27:22 PM): There's plenty of time to plot and scheme
spies4Faizah (10:27:28 PM): but at that point, the spies still needed to try and work together best they could
spies4Summer (10:27:37 PM): That's another good point
spies4Summer (10:27:47 PM): Even if Masaki's a spy, there are still 2 other spies to target
spies4Summer (10:27:54 PM): I'd rather have him be productive
spies4Faizah (10:28:01 PM): Thats what I told Candy last night
spies4Faizah (10:28:10 PM): I was like, ok...Cain AND Masaki are pretty much toast
spies4Faizah (10:28:21 PM): but we need to be thinking now about PAST them, and the other spies(spy)
spies4Faizah (10:28:30 PM): Because its getting down to the nitty gritty!
spies4Summer (10:28:31 PM): Exactly
spies4Faizah (10:28:38 PM): I still think we will win, but they are going to get sneakier and sneakier
spies4Faizah (10:28:42 PM): Like Leon
spies4Summer (10:28:48 PM): There are only 10 citizens left
spies4Faizah (10:28:48 PM): I have been trying to do my research on him lately
spies4Summer (10:28:51 PM): We've gone from 22 to 10
spies4Summer (10:28:58 PM): There's very little room for mistakes
spies4Summer (10:29:08 PM): Good girl
spies4Faizah (10:29:09 PM): And I told Candy that after a while, I may start suspecting Singe
spies4Summer (10:29:11 PM): What have you found on Leon?
spies4Faizah (10:29:13 PM): and my reason for this IS:
spies4Faizah (10:29:19 PM): Why wouldnt the spies imprison him???
spies4Faizah (10:29:28 PM): He is the closest thing to a citizen that we pretty much have
spies4Faizah (10:29:33 PM): So why are they letting him stick around?
spies4Summer (10:29:45 PM): You should talk to Gordy
spies4Faizah (10:29:52 PM): I tried, he wont talk anything but craziness
spies4Summer (10:29:59 PM): Oh
spies4Faizah (10:29:59 PM): fish guts and vaginas
spies4Faizah (10:30:01 PM): blahblahblah
spies4Summer (10:30:03 PM): Ohhhh
spies4Summer (10:30:04 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (10:30:13 PM): Angelica said it best
spies4Summer (10:30:18 PM): He's so distracted by shiny objects
spies4Faizah (10:30:20 PM): Yes
spies4Faizah (10:30:24 PM): What was he saying about Singe?
spies4Summer (10:31:09 PM): That the imprisoned and exiled players also want to know why Singe hasn't been imprisoned
spies4Faizah (10:31:24 PM): But I guess on the other hand it could be a massive set up
spies4Faizah (10:31:35 PM): And I guess you could also use that strategy for Candy, as in why hasnt she been imprisoned
spies4Faizah (10:31:36 PM): SOOOO
spies4Faizah (10:31:37 PM): lol
spies4Faizah (10:31:43 PM): maybe it isnt that sound
spies4Faizah (10:31:55 PM): But when it comes to Leon, I think he is a prime candidate for Spyness
spies4Faizah (10:31:55 PM): haha
spies4Summer (10:32:07 PM): I agree
spies4Summer (10:33:21 PM): I should read over my conversations with him
spies4Summer (10:33:30 PM): I am pretty sure, though, that I won't find anything
spies4Faizah (10:34:00 PM): I have like next to no convos with him
spies4Faizah (10:35:08 PM): I also think a spy could be someone lying very low
spies4Faizah (10:35:25 PM): I mean, sure...there have been some loud spies, but who is to say there is ONE spy who no one suspects, you know?
spies4Faizah (10:35:36 PM): someone like Damon or Kip or someone like that
spies4Faizah (10:35:39 PM): Its so hard right now.
spies4Summer (10:36:10 PM): I have been thinking a lot about Damon
spies4Summer (10:36:16 PM): And his connections to Beverly and Naomi
spies4Summer (10:36:42 PM): Naomi might have thought accusing Damon was a good way to secure his "innocence"
spies4Faizah (10:36:50 PM): yea
spies4Faizah (10:36:54 PM): but it was so last minute
spies4Summer (10:37:05 PM): And Beverly certainly made a show of fighting with him
spies4Faizah (10:37:04 PM): therefore almost looked like scrambling
spies4Faizah (10:37:12 PM): but yea, she could have been protecting him for later on
spies4Faizah (10:37:22 PM): like now, when we are looking all over for mistakes
spies4Summer (10:38:15 PM): She knew she'd be grilled about her Damon vote if she made it through
spies4Summer (10:38:22 PM): But I don't think she expected to make it through
spies4Faizah (10:38:32 PM): I dont either
spies4Faizah (10:38:38 PM): she was smart, and I think she knew her goose was cooked
spies4Summer (10:39:34 PM): Well this is an excellent example of WIFOM isn't it
spies4Summer (10:39:54 PM): Did Naomi accuse Damon because she suspected him of being an Orthodoxy spy or because she wanted to protect a fellow spy?
spies4Faizah (10:39:54 PM): ok
spies4Faizah (10:40:04 PM): If I tell you something do you SWEAR not to tell it
spies4Faizah (10:40:07 PM): I mean like sweeeeear
spies4Faizah (10:40:08 PM): haha
spies4Faizah (10:40:13 PM): Because it could so be used against me
spies4Summer (10:40:41 PM): I promise
spies4Faizah (10:41:01 PM): Beverly had sent me an IM right before she was exiled
spies4Faizah (10:41:12 PM): and it was simple, non CAPS, non crazy
spies4Faizah (10:41:43 PM): "Mistaki is spy....do with this what you will."
spies4Summer (10:41:50 PM): What?
spies4Faizah (10:41:53 PM): Now....she could have been totally BSing me
spies4Summer (10:41:55 PM): How would she know that?
spies4Faizah (10:42:06 PM): no idea, like I say....a major part of me thinks it bull
spies4Faizah (10:42:11 PM): but if he does go, and is a spy.....
spies4Faizah (10:42:12 PM): lol
spies4Faizah (10:42:18 PM): She might have known alot more
spies4Summer (10:42:20 PM): Isn't it weird how someone AGREEING with you makes it harder for you to believe something?
spies4Summer (10:42:30 PM): She might have
spies4Faizah (10:42:38 PM): Well, I dont know why she would have done it just to screw me over
spies4Faizah (10:42:42 PM): or lead me in the wrong direction
spies4Faizah (10:42:51 PM): because she had to know I would try to get him out
spies4Faizah (10:42:55 PM): then set me up for the fall?
spies4Faizah (10:43:02 PM): I dont know, I have ran 500 scenarios through my head
spies4Faizah (10:43:08 PM): And I just needed to tell it to someone I trusted
spies4Faizah (10:43:09 PM): haha
spies4Summer (10:43:12 PM): How do you "feel" about it Faizah?
spies4Faizah (10:43:13 PM): It has been driving me nuts
spies4Faizah (10:43:17 PM): I FEEL PISSED
spies4Faizah (10:43:17 PM): haha
spies4Summer (10:43:22 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Faizah (10:43:42 PM): But if he is Trad
spies4Faizah (10:43:43 PM): wtf???
spies4Faizah (10:43:51 PM): Why would she out a fellow spy to me???
spies4Faizah (10:43:55 PM): like in her own damn group.
spies4Faizah (10:44:00 PM): It has drove me literally insane
spies4Summer (10:44:40 PM): It's another Beverly mind game
spies4Summer (10:44:45 PM): I
spies4Summer (10:44:53 PM): I'm almost envious of her ability to manipulate
spies4Faizah (10:45:15 PM): *sigh*
spies4Faizah (10:45:49 PM): *pulls out hair*
spies4Summer (10:46:10 PM): Are you still "on the phone"?
spies4Faizah (10:46:15 PM): to him, yes.
spies4Faizah (10:46:15 PM): lol
spies4Summer (10:46:19 PM): Just wondering
spies4Faizah (10:46:18 PM): in all reality...no
spies4Summer (10:46:44 PM): He told me Candy was like "Go ahead and imprison me" to him
spies4Summer (10:46:52 PM): Which made me laugh
spies4Faizah (10:46:51 PM): LOL
spies4Faizah (10:47:00 PM): Candy is so ballsy
spies4Faizah (10:47:01 PM): I love her
spies4Summer (10:47:07 PM): She is!
spies4Summer (10:47:11 PM): I'm confused though Faizah
spies4Faizah (10:47:16 PM): how come
spies4Summer (10:47:17 PM): How did I end up as #3 on the "Certain" list?
spies4Faizah (10:48:00 PM): I put you as #3
spies4Faizah (10:48:02 PM): hahahaha
spies4Faizah (10:48:24 PM): Candy as 1
spies4Faizah (10:48:26 PM): Adelaide as 2
spies4Summer (10:48:45 PM): I had Singe, Candy, and Damon in my top 3
spies4Faizah (10:49:25 PM): I dont think Damon is very sure of what he knows
spies4Faizah (10:49:26 PM): haha
spies4Faizah (10:49:30 PM): Singe and Candy yes, Damon, not so much
spies4Faizah (10:49:38 PM): I think you are people just have to talk to you one on one to know that
spies4Summer (10:49:53 PM): That's why I'm surprised
spies4Summer (10:50:05 PM): I didn't know enough people had talked to me enough to know
spies4Summer (10:50:15 PM): Sometimes I feel like a big wimp
spies4Faizah (10:50:22 PM): Why?
spies4Faizah (10:50:25 PM): I hated you
spies4Faizah (10:50:27 PM): then loved you
spies4Faizah (10:50:29 PM): haha
spies4Faizah (10:50:33 PM): I think you are a great player
spies4Summer (10:50:37 PM): Really?
spies4Faizah (10:50:38 PM): you just HAVE to get to know you personally
spies4Summer (10:50:43 PM): Don't tell the spies
spies4Faizah (10:50:43 PM): kinda like me
spies4Summer (10:50:49 PM): Yes I think that's a fair comparison
spies4Faizah (10:50:51 PM): half the people I havent spoken with
spies4Faizah (10:50:54 PM): and they probably dont like me
spies4Summer (10:51:00 PM): I like you
spies4Summer (10:51:06 PM): But I do think it takes time to get to know you
spies4Faizah (10:51:09 PM): Yea
spies4Summer (10:51:25 PM): As for Damon, I think he seems very sure of himself
spies4Summer (10:51:26 PM): He shows up
spies4Summer (10:51:28 PM): Answers a few questions
spies4Summer (10:51:32 PM): Votes, and leaves
spies4Faizah (10:51:34 PM): hahahah
spies4Faizah (10:51:35 PM): yea
spies4Faizah (10:51:38 PM): He is weird.
spies4Summer (10:51:43 PM): He never asks questions
spies4Summer (10:51:47 PM): Have you noticed that?
spies4Summer (10:51:53 PM): He answers them, but he never asks them
spies4Faizah (10:52:01 PM): He never defends himself either
spies4Summer (10:52:07 PM): He did to Naomi
spies4Faizah (10:52:14 PM): yea but that could have been BS
spies4Summer (10:52:18 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (10:52:39 PM): I'm looking at his past posts now
spies4Faizah (10:53:14 PM): brb
spies4Faizah (10:53:17 PM): FOR REAL THIS TIME
spies4Faizah (10:53:17 PM): haha
spies4Faizah (11:19:32 PM): Im going to bed girl
spies4Faizah (11:19:34 PM): I will ttyl
spies4Faizah went away at 11:19:48 PM.
spies4Summer (11:19:51 PM): Good night

[Summer]

spies4Bunni (11:16:20 PM): summer!
spies4Summer (11:16:30 PM): Hello Bunni
spies4Summer (11:16:31 PM): How are you?
spies4Bunni (11:16:38 PM): just great. how are you?
spies4Summer (11:17:49 PM): A little tired but good!
spies4Summer (11:18:06 PM): Back to school Monday
spies4Bunni (11:18:12 PM): ><
spies4Bunni (11:18:18 PM): i hate schoolllll.
spies4Bunni (11:18:24 PM): i want it to be the holidays already.
spies4Bunni (11:20:18 PM): so, what did you think about cain being a cit?
spies4Summer (11:20:41 PM): I was surprised and disappointed
spies4Bunni (11:21:00 PM): yeah. he was on my list, but not on the top.
spies4Summer (11:21:16 PM): I'm sorry to say he was at the top of mine
spies4Bunni (11:21:23 PM): i voted him instead of my #1 choice because i knew there were going to be masaki votes.
spies4Bunni (11:21:30 PM): and i didn't think masaki was a spy.
spies4Summer (11:21:33 PM): Cain played a very bad game
spies4Summer (11:21:42 PM): Masaki is certain he'll be exiled next
spies4Bunni (11:21:41 PM): true.
spies4Bunni (11:22:04 PM): in all honesty, i think candy should go.
spies4Bunni (11:22:17 PM): she's the top of my list.
spies4Summer (11:22:39 PM): I don't think she'll make it past imprisonment
spies4Summer (11:22:51 PM): So for me it's a moot point
spies4Bunni (11:22:52 PM): oh really?
spies4Bunni (11:23:32 PM): trads have inprisonment this time, yah?
spies4Summer (11:23:42 PM): Yes
spies4Bunni (11:23:44 PM): ok
spies4Summer (11:23:52 PM): I don't think they've forgotten how she went after Naomi and Beverly
spies4Bunni (11:23:53 PM): well, she might not then.
spies4Summer (11:24:11 PM):
spies4Summer (11:24:18 PM): Why do you suspect her?
spies4Bunni (11:24:49 PM): i think she's an ortho. she's had way too many fishy reward type things going on around her.
spies4Summer (11:25:03 PM): Just one
spies4Summer (11:25:08 PM): The exile immunity
spies4Bunni (11:25:14 PM): and she just happens to know bev's a spy very soon after angelica says she knows two.
spies4Bunni (11:25:22 PM): naomi and another.
spies4Summer (11:25:29 PM): I've been making this point
spies4Summer (11:25:45 PM): If she was an Orthodoxy spy, why would she come forward when it was the Traditionalists' turn to imprison next?
spies4Summer (11:26:03 PM): The Orthodoxy group was down to 2
spies4Summer (11:26:09 PM): That's a huge risky move to take for a 2 member group
spies4Bunni (11:26:27 PM): well, everyone thought that cain was the last trad spy.
spies4Bunni (11:26:36 PM): so, maybe she was banking on that, too.
spies4Summer (11:26:43 PM): No not exile
spies4Summer (11:26:44 PM): Imprisonment
spies4Bunni (11:26:43 PM): and then the orthos would always have imprisonment.
spies4Bunni (11:27:01 PM): she started the whole masaki thing before evile.
spies4Bunni (11:27:05 PM): exile
spies4Summer (11:27:10 PM): What Masaki thing?
spies4Summer (11:27:15 PM): She didn't vote Masaki
spies4Bunni (11:27:15 PM): wanting to vote him.
spies4Summer (11:27:19 PM): She voted Cain
spies4Bunni (11:27:22 PM): or suspecting him, rather.
spies4Summer (11:27:33 PM): I don't remember her posting that she suspected Masaki
spies4Bunni (11:27:36 PM): she didn't post that.
spies4Summer (11:27:37 PM): Did I miss it?
spies4Bunni (11:27:40 PM): she never really posts anything like that.
spies4Bunni (11:27:46 PM): it all goes on behind the scenes.
spies4Summer (11:27:50 PM): What do you mean?
spies4Bunni (11:27:56 PM): okay.
spies4Bunni (11:28:24 PM): from what i can guess, candy has a group of people under her, that she trusts.
spies4Bunni (11:28:38 PM): like, the 2 people that she told about bev supposedly.
spies4Bunni (11:29:00 PM): and she feeds them ideas and such.
spies4Bunni (11:29:05 PM): and they go spread them.
spies4Bunni (11:29:12 PM): ala Zander.
spies4Summer (11:29:26 PM): I thought Zander seemed pretty sincere though?
spies4Bunni (11:29:30 PM): oh he does.
spies4Bunni (11:29:38 PM): but candy influences him.
spies4Bunni (11:29:46 PM): he asked me if i got a pm the other dya.
spies4Bunni (11:29:55 PM): beacuse apparently he did
spies4Bunni (11:30:20 PM): i don't see why he'd ask me that unless it said something like - you are one of a trusted few - or something.
spies4Summer (11:30:29 PM): Oh wow
spies4Bunni (11:30:35 PM): i think she's setting people up to take the fall for her.
spies4Summer (11:30:56 PM): For exile?
spies4Bunni (11:31:02 PM): Yes.
spies4Bunni (11:31:09 PM): Don't say anything about it and watch.
spies4Summer (11:31:15 PM): All right
spies4Bunni (11:31:18 PM): See if Zander or someone posts something about Masaki.
spies4Bunni (11:31:25 PM): And see if Candy has anything to add to it.
spies4Summer (11:31:30 PM): He's already made 40 posts on Masaki
spies4Summer (11:31:32 PM): *Giggle*
spies4Bunni (11:31:37 PM): well, yeah. haha
spies4Summer (11:31:50 PM): What would Candy posting about Masaki prove?
spies4Bunni (11:31:59 PM): i don't think she WILL post much, is the point.
spies4Bunni (11:32:14 PM): that way, if he goes and is a cit, she can be like, "oh, it was zander and not me."
spies4Bunni (11:32:24 PM): "he's the one that started it all"
spies4Bunni (11:32:32 PM): because she talks in sneakier ways than in the burg.
spies4Summer (11:32:39 PM): I strongly doubt Zander will be exiled
spies4Bunni (11:32:54 PM): maybe not. but it'll also keep eyes off her, you see?
spies4Bunni (11:33:07 PM): and leave her to continue to do what she wants.
spies4Summer (11:33:11 PM): People want Zander exiled?
spies4Bunni (11:33:12 PM): i just REALLY thinks she's a spy.
spies4Bunni (11:33:14 PM): no.
spies4Bunni (11:33:15 PM): not now.
spies4Bunni (11:33:30 PM): but if masaki goes and is a cit, then zander looks pretty bad.
spies4Bunni (11:33:35 PM): do you see?
spies4Summer (11:34:13 PM): Yes that would look bad
spies4Summer (11:35:37 PM): Definitely
spies4Bunni (11:36:24 PM): i just think candy is like a pupeteer.
spies4Bunni (11:36:49 PM): and it's not like she doesn't want to put herself out there.
spies4Bunni (11:36:57 PM): cause look at the ranking results.
spies4Bunni (11:37:02 PM): she's #1 on opinions.
spies4Summer (11:37:13 PM): Yes
spies4Bunni (11:37:15 PM): it's this shady behind-the-door dealings i think she's involved in that worries me.
spies4Bunni (11:37:39 PM): why do that? just seems like spy behavior to me.
spies4Summer (11:38:07 PM): Because there are 3 spies who want her out
spies4Summer (11:38:21 PM): She clearly suspects you
spies4Summer (11:38:27 PM): So why would she include you in her plans?
spies4Bunni (11:38:35 PM): she hasn't included me.
spies4Bunni (11:38:55 PM): she trusted me up til the point i said i didn't trust her.
spies4Summer (11:38:58 PM): Right, you said she had a trusted thing or something and Zander had to tell you about it
spies4Bunni (11:39:10 PM): well, i only can INFER this.
spies4Bunni (11:39:18 PM): i don't know what the pm actually said.
spies4Bunni (11:39:32 PM): just my deductions.
spies4Summer (11:39:38 PM): Oh all right
spies4Summer (11:39:50 PM): I misunderstood
spies4Bunni (11:40:14 PM): oh, i'm sorry. i prolly said something confusinglike.
spies4Bunni (11:40:16 PM): i do that. ><
spies4Summer (11:40:19 PM): Operating in private has been very effective for the spies
spies4Bunni (11:40:26 PM): obviously.
spies4Summer (11:41:03 PM): We really should try what works
spies4Summer (11:41:10 PM): I don't have anything private to reveal
spies4Summer (11:41:21 PM): But if I did I probably would operate privately as well and see how it went
spies4Bunni (11:42:20 PM): i guess.
spies4Summer (11:42:43 PM): Oh no
spies4Summer (11:42:44 PM): Emergency
spies4Bunni (11:42:48 PM): what's wrong?
spies4Summer (11:42:51 PM): RL
spies4Bunni (11:42:59 PM): utoh! bye! i hope everything's okay!

[Summer]

spies4Singe (12:45:46 AM): damn... did you get to talk to gordy today?
spies4Summer (12:45:59 AM): Hi Singe
spies4Summer (12:46:01 AM): How are you doing?
spies4Singe (12:46:01 AM): looks like i missed him
spies4Summer (12:46:04 AM): I'm fine, thanks for asking
spies4Singe (12:46:08 AM): i'm good, in a hotel room
spies4Singe (12:46:19 AM): and yeah, hi, how are you
spies4Summer (12:46:36 AM): I'm glad to hear you're doing well
spies4Singe (12:46:38 AM): i'm in work mode, sorry, late night
spies4Summer (12:46:44 AM): To answer your question, I talked to Gordy briefly today
spies4Singe (12:47:03 AM): does he seem interested in participating and helping?
spies4Summer (12:47:17 AM): He seemed distracted by bright shiny objects
spies4Singe (12:47:19 AM): yeah
spies4Singe (12:47:24 AM): that was my worry
spies4Summer (12:47:46 AM): Worry?
spies4Summer (12:47:57 AM): Do you regret your decision to bring Gordy back?
spies4Singe (12:48:07 AM): yeah, i knew he could either get involved for a week or just show up and goof off
spies4Singe (12:48:15 AM): my decision?
spies4Summer (12:48:27 AM): Can't blame a girl for trying
spies4Singe (12:48:31 AM): by the way, who got imprissed tonight?
spies4Summer (12:48:38 AM): Imprisonment is tomorrow night
spies4Singe (12:48:39 AM): oh
spies4Singe (12:48:41 AM): right
spies4Summer (12:49:27 AM): I get the days mixed up sometimes too
spies4Singe (12:49:55 AM): tuesday is tomorrow lol
spies4Singe (12:50:08 AM): i got to Los Angeles last night so that felt like Monday
spies4Singe (12:50:22 AM): so i have a question for you
spies4Summer (12:50:29 AM): Why am I not surprised?
spies4Singe (12:50:48 AM): It'd be a real shame if we were both Cits and never worked together before one of us got axed.
spies4Singe (12:51:35 AM): Do you have any ideas how we can build some trust? I honestly can't say I trust you, and that's probably a mutual feeling.
spies4Summer (12:52:05 AM): The best way to earn trust, of course, is to get a spy together
spies4Summer (12:52:12 AM): Nothing builds solidarity like a spy exile
spies4Singe (12:52:45 AM): well, i voted leon
spies4Singe (12:52:54 AM): other than him, i dont have a real strong vibe on anyone
spies4Singe (12:53:03 AM): and my vibe on him is pretty weak
spies4Summer (12:53:44 AM): I'm pretty tired of hearing that from people
spies4Summer (12:53:51 AM): There are 3 spies out there and the same names keep getting circulated
spies4Singe (12:54:21 AM): damn, 2 mins phone
spies4Summer (1:12:41 AM): I have to go
spies4Summer (1:12:47 AM): Good night Singe

[Summer]

spies4Summer (11:03:36 PM): Hi Bunni
spies4Bunni (11:03:44 PM): hey summer.
spies4Summer (11:03:54 PM): How are you?
spies4Bunni (11:03:58 PM): i'm good. how about you?
spies4Summer (11:04:15 PM): I'm all right
spies4Summer (11:04:25 PM): I apologize for leaving so abruptly last night
spies4Bunni (11:04:37 PM): that's okay.
spies4Bunni (11:04:41 PM): was everything alright?
spies4Summer (11:04:47 PM): No but hopefully they will be
spies4Summer (11:05:04 PM): One of the girls in my floor has depression and she sometimes sinks low
spies4Summer (11:05:14 PM): Last night she had an episode
spies4Summer (11:05:26 PM): So I had to go take care of her
spies4Bunni (11:05:38 PM): aw
spies4Bunni (11:05:44 PM): well, you're a good friend.
spies4Summer (11:06:01 PM):
spies4Bunni (11:06:08 PM): i hope she's ok.
spies4Bunni (11:06:29 PM): so, i was thinking after you left about what we were talking about.
spies4Bunni (11:06:37 PM): and i thought that maybe you would have gotten a pm, too.
spies4Bunni (11:06:59 PM): because candy seems to value you.
spies4Summer (11:07:23 PM): I didn't receive a PM from her
spies4Summer (11:07:39 PM): So no
spies4Bunni (11:07:41 PM): okay.
spies4Bunni (11:07:49 PM): well, i don't even know that it was from HER.
spies4Bunni (11:07:52 PM): i just speculated.
spies4Summer (11:08:08 PM): Oh, then I'm as clueless as you
spies4Bunni (11:08:31 PM): just seems odd.
spies4Bunni (11:08:39 PM): these backdoor dealings and such.
spies4Bunni (11:08:51 PM): why not share it with the whole town if you really have something to say.
spies4Bunni (11:09:03 PM): unless you're doing something sneaky.
spies4Summer (11:09:23 PM): Do you really agree with that?
spies4Bunni (11:09:44 PM): well, i don't think that came out how i wanted it too
spies4Bunni (11:10:02 PM): i just think that these pms to only certain people are odd.
spies4Bunni (11:10:08 PM): is what i mean to say.
spies4Summer (11:10:25 PM): I'm not sure what you mean
spies4Bunni (11:10:36 PM): okay. i'm sorry.
spies4Bunni (11:10:39 PM): i'm not making myself clear.
spies4Summer (11:10:44 PM): It's okay!
spies4Bunni (11:10:45 PM): i'm really tired, so haha
spies4Bunni (11:10:59 PM): i'll try to think of a way to explain it better later. haha
spies4Summer (11:11:05 PM): All right
spies4Summer (11:11:21 PM): I'm reading the fatemaker thread now
spies4Summer (11:11:27 PM): What's your speculation?
spies4Bunni (11:11:51 PM): i think that's a heck of a lot of decisions they got to make if that is a role.
spies4Summer (11:11:59 PM): One every episode, it seems
spies4Summer (11:12:16 PM): The spies and the fatemaker receive a question every round. Each spy group gives 1 name. The fatemaker gets to choose.
spies4Bunni (11:12:54 PM): hm?
spies4Summer (11:13:02 PM): That's what Gordy posted
spies4Summer (11:13:07 PM): It's at the top
spies4Bunni (11:13:12 PM): yeah.
spies4Summer (11:13:20 PM): Do you think someone's lying to Gordy?
spies4Bunni (11:13:21 PM): i don't know how he knows all this.
spies4Summer (11:13:28 PM): Bunni, he's a confirmed citizen
spies4Summer (11:13:33 PM): No citizen has any reason to lie to him
spies4Bunni (11:13:39 PM): i know.
spies4Bunni (11:13:53 PM): but the thing is, he'll never tell who it is.
spies4Bunni (11:13:56 PM): so we won't know.
spies4Summer (11:13:59 PM): Would you?
spies4Bunni (11:14:13 PM): no.
spies4Summer (11:14:19 PM): If the spies knew who it was, they'd imprison the person
spies4Bunni (11:14:23 PM): i know.
spies4Bunni (11:14:31 PM): i don't expect him to.
spies4Summer (11:14:35 PM): Well you and Damon and Leon seem to doubt this information
spies4Summer (11:14:39 PM): Is there something I'm missing?
spies4Summer (11:14:46 PM): What looks wrong?
spies4Bunni (11:15:07 PM): i don't 100% doubt it, i just find it odd that one person's role gives them that much power.
spies4Bunni (11:15:19 PM): are there roles like that a lot in these games?
spies4Summer (11:15:32 PM): I've looked over past roles in the games
spies4Summer (11:15:38 PM): There hasn't been a Fatemaker role before
spies4Summer (11:15:46 PM): But it does fit the pattern of "here's a benefit, but here's the catch"
spies4Summer (11:15:58 PM): Unlike say Ralph's "mirrorman"
spies4Bunni (11:16:09 PM): Ahhh Ralph.
spies4Bunni (11:16:11 PM): lol
spies4Summer (11:16:14 PM):
spies4Bunni (11:16:31 PM): well, who knows, it could be true.
spies4Summer (11:16:41 PM): Maybe it's not!
spies4Summer (11:16:48 PM): Maybe you and Leon and Damon have caught onto something I haven't noticed
spies4Summer (11:16:52 PM): Better safe than sorry
spies4Bunni (11:17:17 PM): yeah.
spies4Bunni (11:17:28 PM): better not to just blindly believe something without delving deeper into it.
spies4Bunni (11:18:12 PM): and we're left another day waiting to see what happens with imprisonment.
spies4Summer (11:18:18 PM): I know
spies4Summer (11:18:21 PM): That's uncomfortable
spies4Summer (11:18:33 PM): I don't like the nervous anticipation
spies4Bunni (11:18:37 PM): haha
spies4Bunni (11:19:18 PM): have you done your interviews yet?
spies4Summer (11:19:25 PM): No
spies4Summer (11:19:31 PM): I haven't seen Damon or Leon online
spies4Summer (11:19:50 PM): Or my subjects Abrams and Hannah
spies4Summer (11:19:57 PM): What about you?
spies4Bunni (11:20:48 PM): well, johan is supposed to be on soon to interview me.
spies4Bunni (11:21:09 PM): and i'm trying to set up things with the other two.
spies4Summer (11:21:37 PM): Who do you have?
spies4Bunni (11:21:37 PM): but i doubt candy'll try to get on.
spies4Bunni (11:21:45 PM): i may just have to pm her.
spies4Summer (11:21:57 PM): She's usually online late at night - that's when I always catch her
spies4Summer (11:22:10 PM): I will have to PM Hannah and Abrams
spies4Bunni (11:22:19 PM): how late?
spies4Bunni (11:22:27 PM): later than me, obviously. lol
spies4Summer (11:22:29 PM): Oh gosh
spies4Summer (11:22:34 PM): Yes, probably, if you haven't seen her
spies4Summer (11:22:49 PM): There are quite a few players I rarely catch online
spies4Summer (11:22:59 PM): I don't know if it's because they're not on, or if I'm not on enough, or if we just have different hours
spies4Bunni (11:23:22 PM): yeah.
spies4Bunni (11:23:25 PM): i mean, i see you a lot.
spies4Bunni (11:23:30 PM): and i used to see candy a lot.
spies4Bunni (11:23:33 PM): and naomi
spies4Bunni (11:23:40 PM): and masaki
spies4Bunni (11:23:44 PM): and zander
spies4Bunni (11:23:53 PM): and kips away a lot. -.-
spies4Summer (11:23:54 PM): Yeah!
spies4Bunni (11:24:10 PM): and faizah always seems to be leaving when i talk to her
spies4Summer (11:36:49 PM): Have you thought about exile, since it's the day after tomorrow?
spies4Summer (11:37:06 PM): I rather like that we're moving faster
spies4Bunni (11:37:37 PM): i'm waiting to see what happens with imprisonment.
spies4Bunni (11:37:43 PM): before i make up my mind.

[Summer]

spies4Masaki (11:29:17 PM): Gordy's post clears a lot of things up
spies4Masaki (11:29:26 PM): esp. w/ regards to candy's exile immunity
spies4Summer (11:29:27 PM): Hi Masaki
spies4Masaki (11:29:31 PM): hey
spies4Masaki (11:29:33 PM):
spies4Summer (11:29:34 PM): What do you mean?
spies4Summer (11:29:45 PM): Yes, now we know it came from a citizen
spies4Masaki (11:29:53 PM): more importantly
spies4Masaki (11:29:57 PM): we know it didn't come from the box
spies4Masaki (11:30:17 PM): that has been bothering me ever since she received it
spies4Masaki (11:30:24 PM): until now
spies4Summer (11:32:21 PM): Right
spies4Summer (11:32:28 PM): It also means it wasn't an orthodoxy spy power
spies4Summer (11:34:10 PM): What do you think about the validity of the description?
spies4Masaki (11:37:38 PM): Validity?
spies4Summer (11:38:28 PM): Well Leon, Damon, and Bunni all seem to have doubts
spies4Summer (11:38:35 PM): Bunni says it's too much power?
spies4Masaki (11:40:46 PM): Fools
spies4Masaki (11:40:56 PM): Ok first of all the description matches perfectly with a bunch of things
spies4Masaki (11:41:07 PM): First off
spies4Summer (11:41:12 PM): I told Bunni that it matches the "here's the benefit, but here's the catch" setup
spies4Summer (11:41:19 PM): As opposed to say "mirrorman"
spies4Masaki (11:41:23 PM): Well despite that
spies4Summer (11:41:32 PM): No, as in, it makes sense
spies4Masaki (11:41:44 PM): Angelica told us about that investigation from the fatemaker episode she was exiled
spies4Masaki (11:41:48 PM): coincides perfectly with what gordy says
spies4Masaki (11:41:50 PM): secondly
spies4Masaki (11:42:04 PM): My critique was definitely written by either the fatemaker or someone who knows how it works
spies4Masaki (11:42:13 PM): Remember the line that comments on the fatemaker being the schism maker
spies4Summer (11:42:13 PM): Ohhh right
spies4Summer (11:42:16 PM): Yes!
spies4Masaki (11:42:17 PM): also coincides with what gordy is saying
spies4Summer (11:44:42 PM): Thirdly?
spies4Masaki (11:45:26 PM): Well, if there is a thirdly
spies4Masaki (11:45:35 PM): It's that Gordy is not lying because he is a confirmed Citizen
spies4Summer (11:45:50 PM): Which definitely helps
spies4Summer (11:46:16 PM): I think Bunni is playing stupid with this, which bothers me
spies4Summer (11:46:44 PM): spies4Bunni (11:13:21 PM): i don't know how he knows all this.
spies4Summer (11:13:28 PM): Bunni, he's a confirmed citizen
spies4Summer (11:13:33 PM): No citizen has any reason to lie to him
spies4Masaki (11:46:56 PM): Whoa, she doubts it?
spies4Summer (11:47:09 PM): spies4Bunni (11:11:51 PM): i think that's a heck of a lot of decisions they got to make if that is a role.
spies4Masaki (11:47:16 PM): Ok honestly the people who doubt it are going to be people I keep an eye on
spies4Masaki (11:47:32 PM): They might be trying to play dumb because Spies know about it
spies4Summer (11:47:34 PM): spies4Bunni (11:13:53 PM): but the thing is, he'll never tell who it is.
spies4Bunni (11:13:56 PM): so we won't know.
spies4Masaki (11:47:35 PM): ahead of time
spies4Summer (11:47:52 PM): Yes, I agree
spies4Summer (11:49:01 PM): Logic says that if the premises at the top are true, this has to be the fatemaker conveying information to Gordy
spies4Summer (11:49:02 PM): Because
spies4Summer (11:49:12 PM): Look at a decision like this
spies4Summer (11:49:17 PM): 5:
Who gets exile V immunity?
Traditionalists: Give it to Candy
Orthodoxy: Give it to Abrams
Fatemaker chose Candy
spies4Summer (11:49:24 PM): We all know Candy received it
spies4Summer (11:49:36 PM): But a Traditionalist spy would not know who the Orthodoxy selected (Abrams)
spies4Summer (11:49:49 PM): 7:
Who will be removed from the jury?
Traditionalists: Remove Masaki
Orthodoxy: Remove Cain
Fatemaker chose Cain
spies4Summer (11:49:55 PM): We all know Cain was removed
spies4Summer (11:50:06 PM): But an Orthodoxy spy would not know who the Traditionalists selected (you)
spies4Masaki (11:51:09 PM): right
spies4Masaki (11:51:16 PM): definitely right
spies4Masaki (11:51:20 PM): Because if the real fatemaker saw this
spies4Masaki (11:51:24 PM): They would go to Gordy
spies4Summer (11:51:26 PM): Exactly
spies4Masaki (11:51:27 PM): And ask who told them that
spies4Masaki (11:51:31 PM): Good call
spies4Masaki (11:51:43 PM): well
spies4Masaki (11:51:44 PM): hang on
spies4Masaki (11:51:51 PM): not necessarily true
spies4Masaki (11:51:55 PM): Remember one thing
spies4Summer (11:52:00 PM): They all talk
spies4Masaki (11:52:01 PM): The spies can now communicate
spies4Summer (11:52:04 PM): I forgot about that
spies4Masaki (11:52:18 PM): but well still
spies4Masaki (11:52:26 PM): The real fatemaker would know they never went to gordy
spies4Summer (11:52:35 PM): Right
spies4Masaki (11:52:44 PM): and could possibly prove their identity somehow
spies4Masaki (11:52:53 PM): So I think it's safe to assume it's legit
spies4Summer (11:53:12 PM): So the Traditionalist spies wanted to remove you from the jury
spies4Summer (11:53:20 PM): And the Orthodoxy spies wanted to give you the tiebreaker permanently
spies4Masaki (11:54:29 PM): yeah
spies4Masaki (11:54:31 PM): seems so
spies4Masaki (11:54:37 PM): should I be flattered?
spies4Masaki (11:54:39 PM):
spies4Summer (11:54:56 PM): Well what do you make of it?
spies4Masaki (11:55:11 PM): Well I never indicated I would vote guilty on bunni
spies4Masaki (11:55:19 PM): So why they chose me I don't know
spies4Masaki (11:55:33 PM): As for the extra vote, again, no idea
spies4Masaki (11:55:38 PM): But if you look at it
spies4Masaki (11:55:56 PM): Cain and I were chosen the last two times
spies4Masaki (11:56:00 PM): But in opposite orders
spies4Summer (11:56:08 PM): Right
spies4Summer (11:56:15 PM): Who are you closest to, Masaki?
spies4Summer (11:56:26 PM): Who would want you to hold the tiebreaker and use it in case it was needed?
spies4Masaki (11:56:37 PM): Hmmmm
spies4Masaki (11:56:50 PM): Well if we're going by trust here
spies4Masaki (11:56:55 PM): I'd have to say Kip, Bunni, and maybe Singe
spies4Summer (11:56:59 PM): People who think you trust them
spies4Masaki (11:57:07 PM): Those three, then
spies4Summer (11:57:52 PM): You would also have had an extra vote
spies4Summer (11:58:05 PM): Who did you want to exile last episode?
spies4Masaki (11:59:14 PM): If it came to a tie?
spies4Masaki (11:59:25 PM): Or if I could just pick and choose to exile someone of my own free will?
spies4Masaki (11:59:44 PM): Well last episode I began to distrust Candy
spies4Masaki (11:59:51 PM): The whole exile immunity started plaguing me
spies4Summer (11:59:55 PM): I mean think of it like you're an outsider
spies4Summer (12:00:06 AM): What agenda did you appear to promote?
spies4Summer (12:00:19 AM): An "exile Candy" campaign?
spies4Masaki (12:00:38 AM): Not quite at that point no
spies4Masaki (12:00:57 AM): I began that more towards the end of the episode, after the extra vote was announced
spies4Masaki (12:01:03 AM): But I still had that falling out with her
spies4Masaki (12:01:09 AM): And people did know about it
spies4Masaki (12:01:13 AM): But I did want Cain out as well
spies4Masaki (12:01:57 AM): Probably the only two people I really had much to say about suspicion wise in a meaningful way
spies4Summer (12:02:06 AM): My thought is this - out of Kip, Singe, and Bunni, the people you trust, were any of them contemplating exiling Candy as well?
spies4Summer (12:02:22 AM): Giving you the tiebreaker and the extra vote - who stood to benefit if you're not a spy?
spies4Summer (12:02:29 AM): I'm thining someone you trust
spies4Summer (12:02:34 AM): And someone who wanted to exile Candy
spies4Summer (12:02:54 AM): Does that make sense?
spies4Masaki (12:03:38 AM): Yes
spies4Masaki (12:03:47 AM): Kip and Bunni both _still_ want to go after her as of last night
spies4Masaki (12:03:56 AM): I haven't talked to them though since then
spies4Masaki (12:04:04 AM): Singe is iffy
spies4Masaki (12:04:13 AM): He is getting fed up with Candy but I don't think he'd be willing to go after her
spies4Summer (12:04:30 AM): Well I'm thinking more in terms of "Who is an Orthodoxy spy?"
spies4Masaki (12:04:38 AM): Yes I see what you're saying
spies4Masaki (12:04:49 AM): You're thinking someone wanted me to push Candy
spies4Masaki (12:04:56 AM): That could very well be the case
spies4Summer (12:04:57 AM): And keep them safe down the line
spies4Summer (12:05:00 AM): With the tiebreaker
spies4Summer (12:06:09 AM): Are you being played, Masaki?
spies4Masaki (12:06:21 AM): Probably
spies4Masaki (12:06:32 AM): Bunni though
spies4Masaki (12:06:41 AM): If she's really playing me she's damn good at it
spies4Masaki (12:06:45 AM): She really does seem clueless
spies4Masaki (12:07:03 AM): I dunno I mean it could be something else too :-(
spies4Summer (12:07:22 AM): Keep it in consideration.
spies4Summer (12:07:37 AM): If it was my name up there, I would be reconsidering who I trust
spies4Summer (12:09:04 AM): I also think Bunni knows exactly what she is doing.
spies4Masaki (12:11:10 AM): Really?
spies4Masaki (12:11:16 AM): I should probably keep an eye on her then
spies4Masaki (12:11:30 AM): she claims she is new to mafia games
spies4Summer (12:11:55 AM): That doesn't mean she's new to acting!
spies4Masaki (12:16:25 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (12:22:46 AM): Hey
spies4Masaki (12:23:06 AM): Do you think I should hold off on posting the OBVIOUS reasons why we should believe Gordy, or let the people who you questioned answer first?
spies4Masaki (12:23:16 AM): err
spies4Masaki (12:23:17 AM): or = and
spies4Summer (12:23:48 AM): I didn't actually address Leon, Bunni, and Damon in my post, so I don't think they'll actually answer
spies4Summer (12:24:13 AM): Please, by all means, if you trust Bunni, ask her
spies4Summer (12:24:22 AM): Maybe she's reluctant to speak to me
spies4Masaki (12:27:19 AM): She made a new post
spies4Masaki (12:27:26 AM): Right before I posted mine
spies4Summer (12:28:59 AM): "Ok people, please stop ignoring the obvious."
spies4Masaki (12:28:59 AM):
[Wednesday, 11-14-2007, 00:29:11 AM] spies4Bunni: so, imprisonment postponed!
[Wednesday, 11-14-2007, 00:29:15 AM] spies4Bunni: i wanna know if candy went!
spies4Summer (12:29:29 AM): Oh, so that's why she wants to wait until imprisonment's over to say who she wants to exile
spies4Summer (12:29:55 AM): She just desperately wants Candy out of the game, whether by imprisonment or exile
spies4Masaki (12:30:00 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (12:30:08 AM): She's been hating on her for a while
spies4Masaki (12:30:11 AM): to me at least
spies4Summer (12:30:29 AM): Catfights
spies4Masaki (12:31:38 AM): [Wednesday, 11-14-2007, 00:30:12 AM] spies4Summer: "Ok people, please stop ignoring the obvious."
spies4Masaki (12:31:40 AM): Hmmm???
spies4Summer (12:31:46 AM): It made me smile
spies4Masaki (12:32:40 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (12:45:36 AM): Looks like you got your wish with Damon
spies4Summer (12:45:49 AM): What do you mean?
spies4Masaki (12:45:54 AM): He's on the spotlight
spies4Masaki (12:46:19 AM): If he doesn't answer my questions be tomorrow evening, I'm going to be pretty upset with the situation
spies4Summer (12:48:16 AM): - 1 part not wanting to give the Spies a heads up that I could be on their tail."
spies4Summer (12:48:44 AM): I'm sorry, but that is ludicrous
spies4Masaki (12:51:06 AM): Now Bunni is claiming that I made a good point on the fatemaker thing :-)
spies4Summer (12:54:55 AM): Uh oh is my IM still working?
spies4Summer (12:55:05 AM): Looks like it is, never mind

[Summer]

spies4hannah (11:37:54 PM): hey
spies4Summer (11:37:57 PM): Hi Hannah
spies4Summer (11:38:00 PM): Are you on invisible?
spies4hannah (11:38:07 PM): no...
spies4Summer (11:38:07 PM): Oh never mind
spies4hannah (11:38:13 PM): lol
spies4hannah (11:38:16 PM): i just logged on
spies4Summer (11:38:16 PM): I just didn't see you sign on
spies4Summer (11:38:45 PM): How are you?
spies4hannah (11:39:16 PM): i am alright, but am just finding this game immensely frustrating at the moment. prob cos we getting so close to finishing it
spies4hannah (11:39:19 PM): and u?
spies4Summer (11:39:33 PM): Well I just realized I don't have my interview questions ready yet for you
spies4Summer (11:39:51 PM): I'm supposed to interview you
spies4hannah (11:39:57 PM): yeah i know
spies4Summer (11:40:03 PM): I'm also frustrated
spies4Summer (11:40:13 PM): Right now there are 2 groups of people
spies4Summer (11:40:23 PM): Really suspicious people and people who are never around
spies4Summer (11:40:49 PM): And it looks like the next exile is going to end badly
spies4hannah (11:41:02 PM): yeah i am also worried that will happen.
spies4hannah (11:42:46 PM): how long do u think it'll take to get ur questions ready?
spies4Summer (11:43:00 PM): I would like to do a good, thorough job
spies4Summer (11:43:18 PM): Not to sound like a huge procrastinator, but would tomorrow be okay?
spies4Summer (11:43:26 PM): If you don't know if you'll be on, I could try PMing the questions to you
spies4hannah (11:43:47 PM): what time tomorow?
spies4Summer (11:44:27 PM): I have a study group on Wednesdays at night, so it would have to be after 9 CST
spies4hannah (11:45:59 PM): okay let me think for a second
spies4hannah (11:50:09 PM): okay tomorrow night should be fine, can u do later than 9 cST?
spies4Summer (11:50:13 PM): Yes
spies4hannah (11:51:46 PM): okay, how is 10:30 CST?
spies4Summer (11:52:54 PM): I can do that
spies4hannah (11:53:10 PM): okay then
spies4hannah (11:53:11 PM): :-)
spies4Summer (11:53:55 PM): What do you think of the fatemaker post?
spies4hannah (11:54:27 PM): it rings true, especially since remember when we did critiques? masaki got one from "the fatemaka"
spies4Summer (11:54:39 PM): The fatemaka who is also the schism maka
spies4hannah (11:58:29 PM): why do u think the trad spies wanted to remove masaki from the jury?
spies4Summer (11:58:41 PM): I'm talking about this with him now
spies4Summer (11:59:32 PM): If Bunni was the Traditionalist, she'd want to remove someone who would vote guilty, perhaps
spies4Summer (11:59:39 PM): Masaki says he never indicated he wanted to vote guilty
spies4hannah (11:59:47 PM): yeah and cain said he would vot innocent i think
spies4Summer (12:01:26 AM): I think the Orthodoxy group wanted to play up appearances
spies4hannah (12:19:08 AM): if both spy groups wanted to remove someone who they thought would vote innocent, it means they were prob hoping for a guilty vote on bunni, which kind of makes her look cleared
spies4Summer (12:20:08 AM): Except only 3 people voted guilty and no one seemed to try hard
spies4Summer (12:20:16 AM): Try hard to get a guilty verdict, I mean
spies4hannah (12:20:33 AM): yeah thats true
spies4hannah (12:32:53 AM): so who would u most like to see exiled this round?
spies4Summer (12:33:52 AM): She's immune
spies4hannah (12:34:05 AM): haha
spies4Summer (12:34:12 AM): In reality?
spies4Summer (12:34:59 AM): I'm willing to let Gordy make the call
spies4hannah (12:36:32 AM): yeah i really want to chat to gordy, hear all about the losers lounge
spies4Summer (12:36:44 AM): He represents Martha, Lise, Sherri, himself, Jeremiah, Ralph, Adelaide, and Lloyd
spies4Summer (12:36:56 AM): Between the 8 of them, I'm sure they have a good idea
spies4hannah (12:37:18 AM): yeah. altho apparently martha suspects me in the losers lounge :-) lol
spies4Summer (12:37:28 AM): Really?
spies4hannah (12:37:50 AM): thats what gordy saud to zander apparently
spies4Summer (12:38:21 AM): As an Orthodoxy or a Traditionalist?
spies4hannah (12:38:41 AM): i dunno
spies4hannah (12:39:04 AM): (7:11:30 AM) spies4Zander: He also said Martha super suspects you in the loser's lounge, I think
spies4hannah (12:39:06 AM): thats all he said

[Summer]

spies4Summer (12:03:05 AM): Hi Zander
spies4Zander (12:03:08 AM): Hey sexy
spies4Summer (12:03:15 AM): That's a first!
spies4Zander (12:03:27 AM): lol
spies4Summer (12:03:34 AM): The closest anyone's come so far to saying I wasn't ugly was Johan who said I didn't need to go on the Summer Diet
spies4Zander (12:03:52 AM): Oh well... He was lying and I was too
spies4Summer (12:04:01 AM):
spies4Zander (12:04:06 AM): How's it going?
spies4Zander (12:04:31 AM): *PS I hate Sam for making me interview DUMBRUMS aka Abrams and Damon*
spies4Zander (12:04:39 AM): Neither one is ever here or talks.
spies4Summer (12:04:42 AM): Damon is interviewing me, and I have to interview Abrams
spies4Summer (12:09:38 AM): Who gets to interview you?
spies4Summer (12:10:00 AM): Also, you may think I'm ugly, but my raccoon is adorable.
spies4Zander (12:11:36 AM): ummm
spies4Zander (12:11:39 AM): Kip interviewed me...
spies4Zander (12:11:45 AM): and I have to check who else interviews me
spies4Zander (12:12:04 AM): Leon
spies4Zander (12:12:09 AM): who had plenty of time to do it earlier today but didn't
spies4Summer (12:12:13 AM): Oh no
spies4Summer (12:12:31 AM): I imagine it will be awkward
spies4Zander (12:12:44 AM): Not as bad as Kip demanding that I was the fatemaker for some reason
spies4Summer (12:13:18 AM): He thinks you are the fatemaker?
spies4Summer (12:13:52 AM): That would simultaneously confuse and interest me
spies4Zander (12:13:55 AM): lmao
spies4Zander (12:14:10 AM): I told him "Kip if I were the fatemaker, I wouldn't tell you, and if I weren' the fatemaker, I would say no also. So no"
spies4Zander (12:14:18 AM): and he just kept bugging me
spies4Summer (12:14:30 AM): On the one hand, I would see you choosing Candy for an exile immunity because Faizah showed me your "let's have an alliance to exile Naomi" PM where you said you trusted her
spies4Zander (12:14:34 AM): My official statement for the future Zander Press Release is NO, I'm not the fucking fatemaker
spies4Summer (12:14:39 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (12:15:10 AM): On the other hand, Bunni said that Candy sent you some sort of "I trust you, keep this quiet" PM and you told Bunni about it? She wasn't sure and neither am I
spies4Zander (12:15:53 AM): I told Bunni?
spies4Summer (12:16:12 AM): That's what she said last night
spies4Zander (12:16:13 AM): I told Bunni that Candy and I trusted one another, but I don't think I mentioned the PM
spies4Zander (12:16:29 AM): OOOOOOOOOOh wait
spies4Zander (12:16:35 AM): Yeah I asked Bunni if she got a PM this round
spies4Zander (12:16:43 AM): cause I wasn't sure if candy had contacted her
spies4Zander (12:16:50 AM): since Candy was trying to tell a bunch of people how to vote
spies4Summer (12:17:01 AM): Really?
spies4Zander (12:17:08 AM): Yeah, you didn't get the PM?
spies4Summer (12:17:17 AM): No
spies4Zander (12:17:22 AM): wow
spies4Zander (12:17:32 AM): I thought Candy trusted you from that conversation that you me Candy and Hannah had
spies4Summer (12:17:47 AM): Maybe she already told me what she had to say when we talked?
spies4Zander (12:22:48 AM): mmm...
spies4Zander (12:22:49 AM): maybe
spies4Zander (12:23:03 AM): gahh... my roommates are bugging me. I'll be back later
spies4Zander (12:23:06 AM): sorry

[Summer]

spies4Singe (12:30:56 AM): hi summer
spies4Summer (12:31:03 AM): Hi Singe!
spies4Singe (12:31:05 AM): how are you tonight? long day at work/school?
spies4Summer (12:31:16 AM): Yes, very
spies4Singe (12:31:30 AM): same here, how's a bubble bath sound lol
spies4Summer (12:31:41 AM): No bathtubs in the dorm!
spies4Singe (12:31:50 AM): oh man that sucks :/
spies4Summer (12:32:04 AM): I don't know if I'd want to bathe in a dorm bathtub
spies4Singe (12:32:09 AM): yeah seriously
spies4Singe (12:32:32 AM): well if you're in school at least you have thanksgiving break coming up
spies4Summer (12:32:47 AM): I'm so relieved
spies4Summer (12:32:53 AM): I want to go home and relax
spies4Singe (12:33:00 AM): i bet
spies4Singe (12:33:05 AM): what year in school?
spies4Summer (12:33:38 AM): I'm a sophomore
spies4Singe (12:33:55 AM): hmm, not so bad i suppose
spies4Singe (12:34:17 AM): you've figured out the balance between study and fun by now
spies4Summer (12:34:33 AM): Not really!
spies4Summer (12:34:35 AM): I study too much
spies4Summer (12:34:41 AM): I'm reading homework right now as we speak
spies4Singe (12:34:57 AM): what subject?
spies4Summer (12:35:13 AM): Economics
spies4Summer (12:35:15 AM):
spies4Singe (12:35:39 AM): eww
spies4Singe (12:35:40 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (12:35:55 AM): You're away now right?
spies4Singe (12:36:03 AM): yeah i just started a new travel job
spies4Summer (12:36:04 AM): You were on a plane
spies4Summer (12:36:08 AM): Oh, how exciting
spies4Singe (12:36:11 AM): kinda
spies4Singe (12:36:20 AM): my friends are scattered all over the country
spies4Singe (12:36:28 AM): so now ill get to visit them for free :
)
spies4Summer (12:37:19 AM): That's great!
spies4Singe (12:38:13 AM): yeah i agree
spies4Singe (12:38:19 AM): but this is the first trip so im behaving myself
spies4Summer (12:38:27 AM):
spies4Summer (12:38:31 AM): You? behave yourself?
spies4Singe (12:38:35 AM): only two beers at dinner and limited flirting with the locals
spies4Singe (12:39:03 AM): they're sending me to the SF bay area for 3 weeks after thanksgiving
spies4Singe (12:39:08 AM): rough
spies4Summer (12:39:29 AM): And I suppose you work occasionally?
spies4Singe (12:39:45 AM): hmm
spies4Singe (12:39:52 AM): i suppose I owe them that much
spies4Singe (12:40:00 AM): wait, you're not my boss's daughter are you?
spies4Summer (12:40:54 AM): You never know!
spies4Singe (12:41:06 AM): are you still having fun with the game?
spies4Singe (12:41:14 AM): we've hit a bit of a lull i think
spies4Summer (12:41:40 AM): I'm starting to lose sight of the fun part. This is the most anxious I've felt all game.
spies4Singe (12:42:30 AM): cause you're waiting for the hammer to fall?
spies4Singe (12:42:37 AM): i dont think you're THE top target
spies4Singe (12:42:43 AM): but then again neither was adelaide
spies4Summer (12:42:48 AM): Well the combination of that plus the rankings
spies4Singe (12:42:56 AM): heh you and i were like 7/8
spies4Summer (12:42:57 AM): I had no idea I was perceived in those kind of ways
spies4Singe (12:43:18 AM): i'd say it's basically accurate
spies4Singe (12:43:23 AM): from my perspective
spies4Summer (12:43:35 AM): You really think I'm a bigger target than you?
spies4Singe (12:43:48 AM): i've said before, you're probably more vocal and more insightful than you've let on
spies4Singe (12:44:01 AM): yeah i do think you're a bigger target than me, primarily cause you've been reticent
spies4Singe (12:44:10 AM): and people have trouble getting a read on you
spies4Singe (12:44:41 AM): i got really lucky to strike just the right tone this game and people for the most part see me as a cit
spies4Summer (12:44:53 AM): Summer, Kip, and Singe are vocal, but they have the respect of a lot of people.
spies4Singe (12:44:57 AM): in a lot of mafia games i attract suspicion lol for behaving close to the same way
spies4Summer (12:44:59 AM): I wasn't aware that I did
spies4Singe (12:45:02 AM): oh yeah
spies4Singe (12:45:11 AM): i respect you a lot, i just dont expect you to tell me shit lol
spies4Summer (12:45:27 AM): And here I am under the impression that no one respects me
spies4Singe (12:45:27 AM): ever since day one
spies4Singe (12:45:32 AM): bah
spies4Singe (12:45:49 AM): i loved doing the challenge with you, if i hadnt been rushed i think we'd have won
spies4Summer (12:46:00 AM): And if we had only had a third warm body
spies4Singe (12:46:01 AM): you're obviously very capable
spies4Singe (12:46:07 AM): yeah no shit huh
spies4Singe (12:46:20 AM): there are a few things that make me think you could be a spy
spies4Singe (12:46:25 AM): so i cant clear you
spies4Singe (12:46:39 AM): i would like to, cause you'd be fun to work with +Cit
spies4Singe (12:47:05 AM): but i just dont have enough to work with. then again, candy's had diarreah of the mouth and i still dont know her alignment
spies4Summer (12:47:15 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Singe (12:47:18 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (12:47:24 AM): Aren't you supposed to be one of the most certain people here?
spies4Summer (12:47:26 AM): Oh wait, I am too
spies4Singe (12:47:38 AM): the only person ive been certain of all game
spies4Singe (12:47:41 AM): relatively speaking
spies4Singe (12:47:43 AM): was adelaide
spies4Singe (12:47:57 AM): and after her, maybe cain after i REALLY read up on him
spies4Singe (12:48:21 AM): oh, gordy says he's got his eye on me
spies4Singe (12:48:28 AM): i'm not impressed...
spies4Singe (12:48:52 AM): as a cit, i kind of feel like someone who was out of the game for two weeks should have a lot of good info to work with
spies4Summer (12:49:00 AM): Yes
spies4Singe (12:49:01 AM): but his read is terrible
spies4Summer (12:49:21 AM): He's not here as himself though
spies4Summer (12:49:32 AM): He's here on the behalf of Lloyd, Martha, Jeremiah, Ralph ...
spies4Singe (12:49:52 AM): does this make you sad at all:
spies4Singe (12:49:54 AM): "And just no one really suspects Summer, but she doesnt really do much with the time she's had either."
spies4Summer (12:50:06 AM): Yes, it depressed me
spies4Singe (12:50:08 AM): you've told me that you work hard, but more in PMs
spies4Singe (12:50:22 AM): so i guess it's just a perception thing
spies4Summer (12:50:43 AM): Who said that?
spies4Singe (12:50:58 AM): im stuck on italics, that was me
spies4Summer (12:51:08 AM): control+i
spies4Singe (12:51:24 AM): i hope you find your voice if you are a cit
spies4Singe (12:51:34 AM): and decide to make it heard more loudly
spies4Summer (12:51:41 AM): Also PMs?
spies4Summer (12:51:47 AM): I don't really send PMs
spies4Singe (12:51:47 AM): or at least talk to me more
spies4Singe (12:51:52 AM): i mean IM]
spies4Summer (12:51:59 AM): Yes

[Summer]

(12:50:29 AM) You have just entered room "spies4."
(12:50:32 AM) spies4Bunni has entered the room.
spies4Masaki (12:50:37 AM): Well at least we know they work again
spies4kip (12:50:49 AM): yeah thats always good
spies4Summer (12:50:52 AM): Yay
spies4Summer (12:50:58 AM): Hi Kip
(12:51:08 AM) spies4Singe has entered the room.
spies4Masaki (12:51:15 AM): Singeinator
spies4kip (12:51:22 AM): hi summer
spies4Bunni (12:51:26 AM): hey people
spies4Summer (12:51:30 AM): What is on tonight's agenda?
spies4kip (12:51:34 AM): dunno
spies4kip (12:51:37 AM): i just got on
spies4Masaki (12:51:38 AM): Discussing stuff?
spies4Masaki (12:51:41 AM): There's a lot to talk about
spies4kip (12:51:52 AM): *checks burg*
spies4Singe (12:52:00 AM): i hay
spies4Singe (12:52:09 AM): let's gas Damon
spies4Summer (12:52:18 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Bunni (12:52:19 AM): >_> <_<
spies4Singe (12:52:23 AM): 10 votes and out
spies4Singe (12:52:27 AM): buh bye noble boy
spies4Singe (12:52:46 AM): can anyone list one pro-Cit thing he's done?
spies4Bunni (12:52:51 AM): i thought you believed candy and leon to be a spy before, singe?
spies4Masaki (12:52:57 AM): Hmmm
spies4Masaki (12:52:57 AM): In PARTICULAR? no
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): i kinda do, bunni
spies4Masaki (12:54:16 AM): We've had some chats, he seems to be a logicalguy
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): that's one theory
spies4kip (12:54:16 AM): i wont vote for damon
spies4kip (12:54:16 AM): i refuse
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): i voted for leon the last two times, bun
spies4kip (12:54:16 AM):
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): why, kip?
spies4kip (12:54:16 AM): family hehehee
spies4Bunni (12:54:16 AM): yeah. i know, singey.
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): haha
spies4Bunni (12:54:16 AM): kip... ><
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): gordy suspects me
spies4Masaki (12:54:16 AM): Gordy is weird like that
spies4Singe (12:54:16 AM): i almost fell out of my seat
spies4kip (12:54:21 AM): gordy.... sigh
spies4kip (12:54:31 AM): i hate how he posts random crap sometimes lol
spies4Masaki (12:54:57 AM): btw
spies4Bunni (12:55:01 AM): why does everyone love gordy in the...whatchamadingle?
spies4Singe (12:55:06 AM): he made a gif of me smashed by an anvil
spies4Singe (12:55:08 AM): and milk
spies4Bunni (12:55:13 AM): omg that was scary!
spies4Bunni (12:55:16 AM): the milk thing.
spies4Singe (12:55:17 AM): i loled
spies4kip (12:55:22 AM): it was funny
spies4Bunni (12:55:28 AM): he has a lot of time on his hands.
spies4Singe (12:55:33 AM): good for him :>
spies4Masaki (12:55:39 AM): I'm a bit more inclined to believing Candy now that we know where her exile immunity came from
spies4Singe (12:55:46 AM): we do?
spies4Masaki (12:55:49 AM): Yes
spies4Singe (12:55:51 AM): oh, fatemaker?
spies4Masaki (12:55:53 AM): Yes :-)
spies4Singe (12:55:56 AM): how does gordy know that?
spies4Singe (12:56:01 AM): it was impressive detail
spies4Masaki (12:56:01 AM): Fatemaker musta told him
spies4Singe (12:56:08 AM): oh shit
spies4Masaki (12:56:13 AM): Give em one good reason not to - he's confirmed
spies4Singe (12:56:17 AM): so once gordy got back in the game
spies4Singe (12:56:25 AM): fatemaker trusted him, awesome
spies4Masaki (12:56:31 AM): Well he's confirmed
spies4Singe (12:56:36 AM): yeah
spies4Masaki (12:56:37 AM): Imprisoned as Citizen
spies4Masaki (12:56:38 AM): resurrected
spies4kip (12:56:39 AM): fatemaker could have lied
spies4Singe (12:56:40 AM): that's cool
spies4Singe (12:56:48 AM): should ALL the roles blab to him?
spies4Masaki (12:56:52 AM): Fatemaker, meaning, not the fatemaker?
spies4kip (12:56:53 AM): yes, and no
spies4Singe (12:56:57 AM): it would be nice to know what we have out there
spies4kip (12:57:07 AM): itd be nice to kno yeah,
spies4Masaki (12:57:08 AM): Kip - what do you mean by lying?
spies4kip (12:57:10 AM): but not who there are
spies4kip (12:57:19 AM): well maybe the fatemaker is gone, and someone is pretending?
spies4Masaki (12:57:34 AM): Hmmm
spies4Masaki (12:57:38 AM): But
spies4Bunni (12:57:42 AM): remember ralph... I HAVE A ROLE.
spies4Masaki (12:57:44 AM): That would require that whoever is claiming the role KNEW that
spies4Singe (12:57:44 AM): how about if the fatemaker tells gordy the next choice
spies4Masaki (12:57:46 AM): hahaha
spies4Bunni (12:57:46 AM): ><
spies4Singe (12:57:48 AM): BEFORE
spies4Bunni (12:57:50 AM): haha
spies4Singe (12:57:51 AM): the choice happens
spies4kip (12:57:53 AM): i wanna kno everything this person told gordy, not who they are, but what they said
spies4Masaki (12:58:19 AM): That could indicate who they are
spies4Singe (12:58:24 AM): bunni i really hope you're town
spies4Singe (12:58:30 AM): you're quiet but pretty clever
spies4Masaki (12:58:47 AM): "I HAVE A ROLE" - funniest line in the game
spies4Singe (12:58:49 AM): and i've gotten a cit vibe from you since the start of the game
(12:59:12 AM) You have just entered room "spies4."
spies4Summer (12:59:19 AM): Oh good I can type again
spies4Summer (12:59:29 AM): Why would you want to know more Kip?
spies4Summer (12:59:37 AM): Like what more is there for us to know?
spies4Bunni (12:59:38 AM): i thought you'd logged off ages ago, summer. ><
spies4Summer (12:59:44 AM): No, my computer froze
spies4kip (1:00:34 AM): well gordy answered my question in the topic
spies4Singe (1:00:40 AM): masaki, how are you gonna prove your alignment to people?
spies4kip (1:00:46 AM): i wanted to kno if the spies could pick within their own groups
spies4Singe (1:00:49 AM): you're like #2 on the chopping block
spies4kip (1:00:57 AM): for names to give the fatemaker
spies4kip (1:01:31 AM): masaki is #2? who's #1? damon?
spies4Singe (1:01:32 AM): i doubt it kip
spies4Singe (1:01:36 AM): leon
spies4kip (1:01:40 AM): oh leon
spies4kip (1:01:43 AM): im for a leon exile
spies4Bunni (1:02:02 AM): i just want to see what happens at imprisonment.
spies4Bunni (1:02:11 AM): before i decide about imprisonment.
spies4Singe (1:02:13 AM): when is it?
spies4Bunni (1:02:17 AM): i mean, exile.
spies4Summer (1:02:20 AM): Tomorrow night
spies4Singe (1:02:25 AM): wasnt it tonight?
spies4Masaki (1:02:25 AM): Short of roleclaiming, what do you want, Singe?
spies4Summer (1:02:33 AM): Surely you have a suspect list longer than 1 person
spies4Masaki (1:02:46 AM): I've given better ideas for the good of the Citizens than half the burg, at least
spies4Masaki (1:02:51 AM): They've just not been noted for the most part.
spies4Singe (1:03:11 AM): so if I reread your posts
spies4Singe (1:03:15 AM): they'll ooze cit?
spies4Masaki (1:03:24 AM): Think about a couple of the things I've done
spies4Masaki (1:03:37 AM): Encrypted investigation
spies4Masaki (1:03:41 AM): I exposed Angelica as a liar
spies4Summer (1:03:41 AM): Masaki was the one to nail Angelica on her lie
spies4Singe (1:03:45 AM): yeah
spies4Masaki (1:03:59 AM): And what suspicions come my way?
spies4Singe (1:04:01 AM): so he's relatively clear if the last trad dies and its not him
spies4Masaki (1:04:07 AM): The only one I can really think of is my vote for Naomi over Beverly
spies4Bunni (1:04:15 AM): but they were both spies
spies4Masaki (1:04:15 AM): And that is fueled by Candy getting pissed over it
spies4Singe (1:04:19 AM): my suspicions of you are more general tone, masaik
spies4Masaki (1:04:20 AM): Candy = influence
spies4Summer (1:04:25 AM): But there was a priority on both sides, Bunni
spies4Bunni (1:04:26 AM): so i don't see what the problem is there. with nai over bev.
spies4Summer (1:04:34 AM): The Orthodoxy knew Naomi was a spy and just guessed on Beverly
spies4Singe (1:04:35 AM): i agree bunni
spies4Singe (1:04:42 AM): i dont get the whole preference thing there
spies4Summer (1:04:44 AM): The Traditionalists wanted to keep Beverly over Naomi
spies4Summer (1:04:51 AM): Both sides would have wanted Naomi exiled over Beverly
spies4Summer (1:05:08 AM): There's more wiggle room on the orthodoxy side though
spies4Masaki (1:05:10 AM): Well if my suspicions are on a mild tone, I don't understand why with my contribution level, I am next on the chopping block
spies4kip (1:05:10 AM): one thing t onote about masaki, the trad spies did pick him to be removed from the jury, would spies pick a fellow spy from their group? (doesnt mean he cant be ortho)
spies4Masaki (1:05:28 AM): To be fair Kip
spies4Masaki (1:05:36 AM): That's kinda WIFOMish
spies4Singe (1:05:43 AM): i dont think they can pick themselves
spies4kip (1:05:49 AM): gordy said they could
spies4Singe (1:05:52 AM): really?
spies4Summer (1:05:52 AM): Gordy said they can pick anyone for any reason
spies4kip (1:05:53 AM): and if they cant pick themselves
spies4kip (1:05:56 AM): then masaki cant be a spy
spies4Singe (1:05:56 AM): wow
spies4kip (1:05:59 AM): cuz he was picked by both
spies4Masaki (1:06:04 AM): Well
spies4Masaki (1:06:08 AM): That would be one hell of a role then
spies4kip (1:06:12 AM): ortho wanted to give him the extra vote last round
spies4Masaki (1:06:19 AM): It would serve investigatively as well, which would be way unbalanced
spies4kip (1:06:26 AM): yeah
spies4Singe (1:06:42 AM): is gordy supposedly the reason for the missed kill?
spies4Masaki (1:06:49 AM): He claims he is, yes
spies4Bunni (1:07:37 AM): i'm really sorry, guys, but i have to be up early, so i'm going to bed. :-(
spies4Summer (1:07:49 AM): Good night Bunni
spies4Masaki (1:07:50 AM): kk
spies4kip (1:07:51 AM): aw, night bunni
spies4Masaki (1:07:52 AM): bye
spies4Bunni (1:08:06 AM): night burgers. ;-)
spies4Singe (1:08:11 AM): nite bun
spies4Singe (1:08:15 AM): <3
spies4kip (1:08:25 AM): singe and bunni, sitting in a tree
spies4Singe (1:08:28 AM): so how'd the missed kill work?
(1:08:30 AM) spies4Bunni has left the room.
spies4Masaki (1:08:43 AM): Apparently if he was targetted for imprisonment
spies4Masaki (1:08:52 AM): it blocked it and triggered a role or something
spies4Masaki (1:09:11 AM): Because he'd been working from episode 3-5 to get targetted
spies4Masaki (1:09:27 AM): Then suddenly he got worried about being imprisoned and starts saying he did something to someone else
spies4Singe (1:09:57 AM): and triggered what, an investigation?
spies4Singe (1:10:01 AM): the death of a spy?
spies4Masaki (1:10:07 AM): Death of a spy I doubt
spies4Singe (1:10:07 AM): has he told us?
spies4Masaki (1:10:10 AM): No
spies4Masaki (1:10:13 AM): He told one person
spies4Singe (1:10:14 AM): why not lol
spies4Masaki (1:10:15 AM): not me
spies4Masaki (1:10:21 AM): Beats me
spies4kip (1:10:23 AM): ugh he prolly told candy
spies4Singe (1:10:24 AM): why in gods green earth wouldnt he tell
spies4kip (1:10:26 AM): which means we'll never know
spies4Summer (1:10:30 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Singe (1:10:43 AM): raargh
spies4Singe (1:10:49 AM): all these secrets give me hives
spies4Singe (1:10:52 AM): i need a secret
spies4Singe (1:10:57 AM): quick, someone send me one
spies4kip (1:11:01 AM): i have a secret
spies4Singe (1:11:08 AM): i swear i am the most out of the loop person in the burg
spies4kip (1:11:11 AM): hey
spies4Summer (1:11:12 AM): Right
spies4kip (1:11:14 AM): im out of the loop too
spies4Summer (1:11:15 AM): definitely not Leon or Abrams
spies4Summer (1:11:19 AM): Definitely you
spies4kip (1:11:24 AM): leon and abrams dont care though
spies4Singe (1:11:47 AM): no i mean i always hear shit like 8thhand
spies4Singe (1:11:53 AM): GORDY HAS A ROLE OMG
spies4Singe (1:11:56 AM): DONT U KNOW
spies4Masaki (1:12:00 AM): "I HAVE A ROLE!!!"
spies4Singe (1:12:00 AM): um
spies4Masaki (1:12:10 AM): spies4Ralph (6:14:00 PM): I HAVE A ROLE!!!! and i need to be imprisoned not exiled
spies4Masaki (1:12:14 AM): best line ever
spies4Singe (1:12:14 AM): fucking ralph
spies4kip (1:12:20 AM): <3 ralph
spies4Summer (1:12:21 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Singe (1:12:24 AM): what a nincompoop
spies4kip (1:12:29 AM): stop giggling
spies4Singe (1:12:30 AM): lol
spies4Singe (1:12:33 AM): i miss the guy
spies4Masaki (1:12:36 AM): Ralph was awesome
spies4Summer (1:13:00 AM): Oh he was?
spies4Masaki (1:13:12 AM): He was funny
spies4kip (1:13:14 AM): its a mystery *ghost*
spies4Summer (1:13:21 AM): stop ghosting
spies4kip (1:13:23 AM): hey singe, wanna share secrets
spies4Masaki (1:13:54 AM): guys
spies4kip (1:14:01 AM): gals
spies4Masaki (1:14:06 AM): something just happened
spies4kip (1:14:10 AM): whatwhatwhat
spies4Masaki (1:14:11 AM): you're not gonna believe this
spies4kip (1:14:17 AM): did you get a role?
spies4Masaki (1:14:20 AM): Abrams posted in the Burg
spies4Summer (1:14:22 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (1:14:32 AM): omg who had 1:15am on the 14th in the pool
spies4Summer (1:14:40 AM): 11:50 PM
spies4kip (1:14:46 AM): way off
spies4Summer (1:14:47 AM): As usual it was less than 5 words
spies4kip (1:14:55 AM): whatd he say?
spies4Summer (1:15:02 AM): "3 of us"
spies4Singe (1:15:07 AM): ...
spies4kip (1:15:08 AM): oh, that
spies4kip (1:15:12 AM): about leon
spies4Masaki (1:15:25 AM): Inactives are killing us this time
spies4Singe (1:15:30 AM): abrams better be a citizen with the most powerful role ever
spies4kip (1:15:31 AM): happens in every spies
spies4Summer (1:15:31 AM): I agree
spies4kip (1:15:33 AM): cept the 1st
spies4Singe (1:15:41 AM): or ill strangle him myself
spies4Masaki (1:15:42 AM): Barely any last game
spies4kip (1:15:48 AM): jordan
spies4Masaki (1:15:53 AM): haha oh yeah
spies4Masaki (1:15:56 AM): that idiot
spies4Summer (1:15:56 AM): We should make a petition begging the spies to eliminate the players who aren't interested so we could have a worthwhile game
spies4Masaki (1:15:58 AM): we needed him
spies4kip (1:16:23 AM): i guess masaki was in 3rd spies game
spies4Masaki (1:16:29 AM): yes
spies4kip (1:16:29 AM): im out the loop cuz someone knows his ID
spies4Masaki (1:16:34 AM): you do
spies4Masaki (1:16:35 AM): :-)
spies4kip (1:16:40 AM): i didnt use it though
spies4Masaki (1:16:42 AM): or at least your predecessor does
spies4kip (1:16:53 AM): the only thing old kip left me
spies4Singe (1:17:00 AM): hey im doing my part
spies4Masaki (1:17:02 AM): so it WAS you
spies4kip (1:17:05 AM): but i didnt use it
spies4Singe (1:17:08 AM): im trying to run damon up
spies4kip (1:17:09 AM): someone else knows it too
spies4kip (1:17:16 AM): cuz oldkip PMed them it
spies4kip (1:17:20 AM): but i wont rat them out
spies4Singe (1:17:26 AM): i already did
spies4Masaki (1:17:26 AM): I already know
spies4Masaki (1:17:31 AM): Singe :-)
spies4Singe (1:17:32 AM): i told masaki i know
spies4kip (1:17:35 AM): darn lol
spies4Summer (1:17:36 AM): So I'm the only one in here who doesn't know
spies4Summer (1:17:39 AM):
spies4Singe (1:17:40 AM): or think i know, thanks to old kip
spies4Masaki (1:17:43 AM): And Zander knows also
spies4Masaki (1:17:48 AM): Meaning everyone knows
spies4Summer (1:17:54 AM):
spies4kip (1:18:01 AM): well if zander knows it candy does
spies4Summer (1:18:01 AM): I don't
spies4Singe (1:18:01 AM): summer, masaki is Tiger Woods
spies4kip (1:18:11 AM): cuz hes her front runner in her little "group" of players
spies4Masaki (1:18:17 AM): But I know who Zander is
spies4Masaki (1:18:19 AM): So it's all good
spies4Masaki (1:18:22 AM): It's kind of funny we're on the outs
spies4Singe (1:18:32 AM): he called me an idiot
spies4Masaki (1:18:38 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:18:40 AM): pot meet kettle
spies4Singe (1:18:41 AM): if he only knew
spies4Singe (1:18:47 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:18:51 AM): summer, you wanna kno?
spies4kip (1:18:53 AM):
spies4Summer (1:18:56 AM): Not particularly
spies4kip (1:19:00 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (1:19:06 AM): So Kip played in #3?!
spies4kip (1:19:11 AM): possible
spies4Masaki (1:19:14 AM): That means yes
spies4kip (1:19:20 AM): no it means possible
spies4Masaki (1:19:28 AM): Nah you'd say no if you hadn't :-)
spies4kip (1:19:36 AM): or id say possible
spies4Masaki (1:19:41 AM): I doubt it!
spies4kip (1:19:45 AM): possible
spies4Masaki (1:19:47 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (1:20:02 AM): well i know you're more than likely not one of the spies
spies4kip (1:20:09 AM): oh i have a PM!
spies4Masaki (1:20:10 AM): 3 of them i already know who they are
spies4Masaki (1:20:17 AM): (not this game last game)
spies4Summer (1:20:18 AM): You already know the 3 spies?
spies4kip (1:20:21 AM): oh its from candy...
spies4Masaki (1:20:29 AM): From last game
spies4kip (1:20:30 AM): about interviews
spies4Masaki (1:20:33 AM): ewww
spies4Masaki (1:20:37 AM): You have to interview her?
spies4kip (1:20:44 AM): she interviews me
spies4Masaki (1:20:46 AM): EWWW
spies4Masaki (1:20:47 AM): Even worse
spies4kip (1:20:50 AM): i interview.... masaki and zander
spies4kip (1:20:52 AM): should be fun!
spies4Masaki (1:20:58 AM): I already did one of mine
spies4Masaki (1:21:00 AM): Hannah
spies4Masaki (1:21:04 AM): I think I do Gordy as well
spies4kip (1:21:08 AM): lucky
spies4kip (1:21:14 AM): well depends...
spies4kip (1:21:17 AM): if he tells you stuff
spies4Masaki (1:21:22 AM): He calls me Masakunt
spies4kip (1:21:24 AM): or if he calls you a fugly bitch
spies4Masaki (1:21:24 AM): Bastard
spies4Summer (1:21:28 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (1:21:34 AM): He calls me Summewhore
spies4kip (1:21:43 AM): i wonder what he calls me
spies4kip (1:21:50 AM): im prolly not worthy
spies4kip (1:22:25 AM): any predictions for imprisonment?
spies4Masaki (1:22:39 AM): Yeah
spies4Masaki (1:22:40 AM): Not Damon
spies4Summer (1:22:44 AM): Or Leon
spies4kip (1:22:45 AM): or leon
spies4kip (1:22:46 AM): or masaki
spies4kip (1:22:53 AM): or gordy!
spies4Summer (1:22:58 AM): Or Bunni
spies4Masaki (1:23:01 AM): Yeah
spies4kip (1:23:02 AM): wow
spies4Masaki (1:23:02 AM): Not Bunni
spies4Masaki (1:23:07 AM): I'm willing to bet on that one
spies4kip (1:23:12 AM): 9 left
spies4kip (1:23:21 AM): not abrams
spies4kip (1:23:24 AM): or johan or faizah
spies4Masaki (1:23:40 AM): Not Sam
spies4kip (1:23:55 AM): sooo... hannah, kip, masaki, singe, summer, zander, candy
spies4Summer (1:24:01 AM): You already said not Masaki
spies4Summer (1:24:02 AM): BRB
spies4kip (1:24:07 AM): oh yeah
spies4kip (1:24:33 AM): candy, hannah, kip, singe, summer, zander =-O 50% chance its someone in here now
spies4Masaki (1:25:31 AM): Hold on!
spies4Masaki (1:25:40 AM): The Traditionalists imprisoned emma right??
spies4Singe (1:25:43 AM): kip aint dyin
spies4Singe (1:25:51 AM): no i think sam gassed emma
spies4Masaki (1:25:54 AM): that means I so want to be imprisoned by them
spies4Masaki (1:26:11 AM): She's hot
spies4Singe (1:26:22 AM): she's the hottest 11 yr old ive ever seen
spies4Masaki (1:26:26 AM): !
spies4kip (1:26:30 AM): ?
spies4Singe (1:26:33 AM): give my regards to the warden, homey
spies4Masaki (1:26:41 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:26:49 AM): that was creppy
spies4kip (1:26:56 AM): and why wont i die?
spies4Singe (1:27:00 AM): it was a joke lol
spies4Singe (1:27:06 AM): and you're not a threat
spies4Singe (1:27:13 AM): perceived
spies4kip (1:27:21 AM): and you are? mr out of the loop
spies4Singe (1:27:26 AM): whose turn coming up, trads?
spies4kip (1:27:31 AM): yea
spies4Masaki (1:27:32 AM): Yup
spies4Singe (1:27:32 AM): i never said i was
spies4Singe (1:27:38 AM): someone obv thinks im in the clear
spies4Masaki (1:27:47 AM): You're flat in the middle
spies4Singe (1:27:47 AM): from the rankings
spies4Masaki (1:27:52 AM): I'm like
spies4Masaki (1:27:53 AM): #3
spies4Singe (1:27:57 AM): one person said its clear sailing for singe
spies4Singe (1:28:02 AM): no you're #1
spies4Singe (1:28:06 AM): cain's dead lol
spies4Singe (1:28:08 AM): you're next
spies4Masaki (1:28:14 AM): Hrm I thought I was 3
spies4Masaki (1:28:25 AM): oh fuck
spies4Masaki (1:28:26 AM): you're right
spies4Masaki (1:28:26 AM): haha
spies4Masaki (1:28:29 AM): no
spies4Masaki (1:28:30 AM): Candy
spies4Masaki (1:30:17 AM): singe rocks for mocking hannah lingo
spies4Singe (1:30:21 AM): masaki, you asked me why the bev-damon fights looked fake
spies4Masaki (1:30:34 AM): Iasked what about them looked fake
spies4Singe (1:30:37 AM): they got into it WAY too fast when he entered the game
spies4Masaki (1:30:37 AM): Meaning, what stuck out to you
spies4Singe (1:30:52 AM): it was like his ONLY contribution
spies4Singe (1:30:56 AM): to the game
spies4Singe (1:31:01 AM): BEV YOU SUCK YOU DIRTY WHORE
spies4Singe (1:31:08 AM): and he posted like 4 messages to that effect
spies4Singe (1:31:13 AM): what an utter waste of energy
spies4Singe (1:31:23 AM): unless he was a sloppy newbie spy trying to distance
spies4Summer (1:31:28 AM): Cain's as well
spies4Singe (1:33:05 AM): but yeah i also thought the bev-masaki and bev-someone else fights looked fake
spies4Singe (1:33:11 AM): so whatever, minor point
spies4Masaki (1:33:27 AM): Godzilla
spies4Masaki (1:33:37 AM): Bevzilla
spies4kip (1:33:41 AM): what about the masaki-candy fights?
spies4kip (1:33:42 AM): fake?
spies4Summer (1:33:58 AM): Oh no, not those again
spies4kip (1:34:13 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:34:18 AM): MASAKI'S TO PROUD!
spies4Masaki (1:34:22 AM): She didn't like me trying to lure her into House V
spies4Masaki (1:34:31 AM): Ok best bev line
spies4Singe (1:34:37 AM): candy's fights are all bluster
spies4Masaki (1:34:37 AM): SHUT THE FUCK UP MISTAKI U TRIPOLAR SHITHEAD
spies4kip (1:34:38 AM): *shudder* would anyone masaki?
spies4Singe (1:34:43 AM): TRIPOLAR LOL
spies4kip (1:34:52 AM): haha
spies4Summer (1:34:52 AM): Oh god
spies4Summer (1:34:54 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (1:34:57 AM): yeah cuz she was bipolar
spies4Masaki (1:35:00 AM): That's where the name Mistaki came from
spies4kip (1:35:09 AM): sigh
spies4kip (1:35:17 AM): seems like everyone has awesome nicknames
spies4kip (1:35:22 AM): im so out of the loop
spies4kip (1:35:30 AM): woe is me
spies4Summer (1:35:34 AM): My recent favorite is King Singe
spies4Summer (1:35:41 AM):
spies4kip (1:35:42 AM): hehe
spies4Singe (1:35:43 AM): she used that on me last night
spies4Singe (1:36:04 AM): after i railed her for being wrong on Cain
spies4kip (1:37:12 AM): lol
spies4kip (1:37:19 AM): she was off on that one
spies4kip (1:37:26 AM): she'll spin it though

[Summer]

spies4Summer (1:38:00 AM): So come on
spies4Summer (1:38:05 AM): The 4 of us are smart
spies4Summer (1:38:09 AM): Who are the spies, guys?
spies4kip (1:38:15 AM): masaki summer and singe.
spies4kip (1:38:17 AM): oh wait...
spies4Summer (1:38:18 AM):
spies4kip (1:38:19 AM): crap
spies4Summer (1:38:37 AM): Even the spies need to figure this one out eventually
spies4kip (1:38:42 AM): yea
(1:38:51 AM) spies4Masaki has left the room.
spies4kip (1:39:06 AM): i wonder where he's going...
spies4kip (1:39:10 AM): anyways... spies...
spies4Summer (1:39:23 AM): Yes
spies4Summer (1:39:35 AM): We know on one side there's Beverly, Naomi, and Emma
spies4kip (1:39:41 AM): and angelica on the other
spies4Summer (1:39:42 AM): Who fits in as the fourth?
spies4kip (1:40:02 AM): i honestly have no idea on the last traditional spy
spies4Summer (1:40:16 AM): Should I invite Johan?
spies4kip (1:40:18 AM): yeah
(1:40:27 AM) spies4Masaki has entered the room.
(1:40:27 AM) spies4Johan has entered the room.
spies4kip (1:40:28 AM): why not
spies4kip (1:40:31 AM): hey guys
spies4Johan (1:40:36 AM): Greetings
spies4Masaki (1:40:36 AM): damn power outage
spies4Summer (1:40:36 AM): Hi Johan and welcome back Masaki
spies4Masaki (1:40:40 AM): Anyway
spies4Summer (1:40:43 AM): We were just getting to the good part
spies4Masaki (1:40:46 AM): We were talking about Bev's TRIPOLAR SHITHEAD comment
spies4Summer (1:40:52 AM): No *Giggle*
spies4kip (1:40:52 AM): i honestly think abrams is a citizen 100%
spies4Summer (1:40:58 AM): We were talking about who the 3 spies are
spies4Summer (1:41:03 AM): I mean, that's why we're all here
spies4Summer (1:41:08 AM): And the spies have to figure it out eventually as well
spies4Summer (1:41:15 AM): So let's just talk about this and figure it out
spies4kip (1:41:22 AM): leon wouldnt be a shock for the last trad
spies4kip (1:41:46 AM): hes voted with a trad every exile
spies4Summer (1:41:48 AM): I feel like a lot of the Traditionalist actions would center around Beverly
spies4kip (1:41:53 AM): except when naomi went obviously
spies4Summer (1:41:56 AM): I completely see her as the leader, making the calls
spies4Summer (1:42:05 AM): Things like "Exile Martha"
spies4kip (1:42:14 AM): in fact leon voted with bev
spies4kip (1:42:15 AM): every time
spies4kip (1:42:19 AM): cept exile one
spies4kip (1:42:23 AM): he voted with naomi
spies4Summer (1:42:26 AM): When he couldn't vote with her
spies4Summer (1:42:29 AM): because of family restrictions
spies4kip (1:42:31 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:42:51 AM): I didn't notice that
spies4kip (1:42:51 AM): abrams is the only living person to vote kiyoshi
spies4kip (1:43:01 AM): everyone else who did is a cit
spies4Summer (1:43:12 AM): I don't see Abrams as a Traditionalist, using that as one piece of evidence
spies4kip (1:43:20 AM): i dont see him as a spy period
spies4kip (1:43:22 AM): using that
spies4Summer (1:43:26 AM): Neither do I, actually
spies4kip (1:43:30 AM): its obvious the spies didnt want to vote the inactives out
spies4Summer (1:43:35 AM): Angelica made it clear she would vote for Abrams
spies4kip (1:43:45 AM): as did bev, right?
spies4Summer (1:43:49 AM): Beverly actually tried to save Naomi by telling people they should vote for Abrams instead
spies4kip (1:44:03 AM): ok
spies4kip (1:44:48 AM): only thing about leon being a spy
spies4kip (1:44:51 AM): and a trad spy at that
spies4kip (1:44:59 AM): all 4 trads were in exile 3 group 1
spies4kip (1:45:03 AM): if he is
spies4Summer (1:45:09 AM): That's the fatemaker's call
spies4kip (1:45:12 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:45:18 AM): what are the odds though lol
spies4Summer (1:45:20 AM): spies4Angelica (9:17:31 PM): Go after Damon. It's really weird that he was replaced whereas Kiyoshi was pulled and Grace idled.
spies4kip (1:45:35 AM): for that matter go after kip
spies4Masaki (1:45:37 AM): if all 4 were int he same group
spies4kip (1:45:38 AM):
spies4Masaki (1:45:43 AM): it means they probably led the charge against jeremiah
spies4Masaki (1:45:49 AM): 4 out of what was it
spies4Masaki (1:45:50 AM): 12?
spies4Summer (1:45:51 AM): Not necessarily
spies4Summer (1:45:54 AM): Emma was in the group
spies4Summer (1:45:58 AM): And she didn't vote at all
spies4Masaki (1:45:59 AM): oh yeah
spies4kip (1:46:02 AM): well only masaki and bunni were left in exile3-1
spies4kip (1:46:05 AM): who didnt vote jer
spies4Summer (1:46:10 AM): Bunni didn't know though
spies4Summer (1:46:17 AM): She was on vacation
spies4Summer (1:46:20 AM): She voted Hannah and left
spies4kip (1:46:21 AM): oh yeah
spies4kip (1:46:23 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (1:46:40 AM): From what I've seen, Beverly and Naomi took the backseat on that one
spies4Summer (1:46:45 AM): They let Candy do the dirty work for them
spies4Summer (1:46:56 AM): But they definitely went along with it
spies4kip (1:47:12 AM): i wouldnt be at all surprised if candy was a spy
spies4Summer (1:47:19 AM): She can't be a Traditionalist one
spies4kip (1:47:22 AM): no
spies4kip (1:47:24 AM): no way
spies4kip (1:47:32 AM): but it wouldnt shock me
spies4kip (1:47:35 AM): if shes an ortho
spies4Summer (1:47:54 AM): I'm now more certain Damon's not an Orthodoxy spy
spies4Summer (1:47:58 AM): After Angelica said
spies4Summer (1:47:59 AM): spies4Angelica (9:17:31 PM): Go after Damon. It's really weird that he was replaced whereas Kiyoshi was pulled and Grace idled.
spies4Summer (1:48:05 AM): spies4Gordy (9:17:45 PM): that's true, but I can't vote aganst Hannah's family
spies4Summer (1:48:12 AM): spies4Angelica (9:18:11 PM): Gordy, I'd rather you vote someone in my family than get Imprisoned!
spies4kip (1:48:57 AM): damons votes: idle. bev, jer, ang, bev, naomi, inno, cain
spies4Summer (1:49:10 AM): spies4Angelica (9:26:14 PM): I'm going to try and push Hannah and Damon into voting Candy if I can.
spies4Masaki (1:49:41 AM): When was that?
spies4Summer (1:49:47 AM): Exile 3
spies4Masaki (1:49:57 AM): That's BS
spies4Masaki (1:50:02 AM): Angelica was behind Jeremiah going
spies4Summer (1:50:07 AM): Not at first
spies4Summer (1:50:20 AM): This conversation was right after schisms were announced
spies4Masaki (1:50:23 AM): Oh
spies4Summer (1:50:23 AM): And the imprisonment 3 was posted
spies4Summer (1:50:25 AM): Like RIGHT after
spies4Summer (1:50:37 AM): Gordy was concerned he'd leave
spies4Masaki (1:50:44 AM): Yeah he was, I remember that
spies4Summer (1:50:49 AM): So Angelica wanted him to go after Damon or Candy to save himself
spies4Summer (1:51:04 AM): We brought up Leon
spies4kip (1:51:06 AM): he eventually voted candy
spies4Summer (1:51:06 AM): She changed the subject
spies4Summer (1:51:16 AM): spies4Summer (9:30:10 PM): What are the chances Leon will go?
spies4Summer (1:51:21 AM): spies4Angelica (9:30:37 PM): Sorry, was checking the forum, lemme catch up.
spies4Summer (1:51:26 AM): spies4Angelica (9:31:11 PM): Leon who? :/
spies4Summer (1:51:37 AM): spies4Gordy (9:33:48 PM): Leon's gone UTR sadly. And since the divide people will want to target the loud ones
spies4Summer (1:51:43 AM): spies4Angelica (9:35:07 PM): He was kind of loud about voting Beverly at the first Exile.
spies4Summer (1:51:59 AM): And then she maneuvered the conversation to talk about Beverly
spies4Masaki (1:52:10 AM): Leon is looking pretty good right about now
spies4Summer (1:52:24 AM): Oh yes
spies4Summer (1:52:29 AM): She does it again later
spies4Summer (1:52:36 AM): I talked about this
spies4Summer (1:52:37 AM): spies4Summer (9:38:19 PM): Do you realize that if Martha's family had voted Kiyoshi instead of Beverly that Martha would have stayed?
spies4Summer (1:52:45 AM): So we talked about you, Naomi, and Leon
spies4Summer (1:52:47 AM): At the end she goes
spies4Summer (1:52:51 AM): spies4Angelica (9:40:03 PM): I knew there was something about Naomi and Masaki I didn't like! Haha!
spies4Masaki (1:53:12 AM): What was that?
spies4Summer (1:53:32 AM): spies4Summer (9:38:42 PM): Leon's family could have voted Kiyoshi
spies4Summer (1:53:36 AM): spies4Summer (9:38:57 PM): But they threw their votes onto Beverly instead
spies4Summer (1:53:43 AM): spies4Angelica (9:39:05 PM): You're right! All three did!
spies4Summer (1:53:49 AM): spies4Gordy (9:39:05 PM): That makes sense
spies4Summer (1:53:55 AM): spies4Summer (9:39:16 PM): So Martha was exiled
spies4Summer (1:53:59 AM): spies4Summer (9:39:20 PM): Mission accomplished
spies4Summer (1:54:03 AM): spies4Angelica (9:39:48 PM): Wow. I never thought about that.
spies4Masaki (1:54:05 AM): Why the hell did she only mention us two then?
spies4Summer (1:54:08 AM): spies4Angelica (9:40:03 PM): I knew there was something about Naomi and Masaki I didn't like! Haha!
spies4Summer (1:54:30 AM): spies4Summer (9:40:35 PM): If I was in that group, I'd cast my vote for one of those 3
spies4Summer (1:54:34 AM): spies4Angelica (9:41:15 PM): They're all together with Gordy. :/
spies4Summer (1:54:46 AM): And then she changed the subject
spies4kip (1:56:20 AM): hrm
spies4kip (1:56:39 AM): what you think that all means summer?
spies4Summer (1:57:11 AM): My guess is that since she couldn't actually vote, it would have been foolish of her to tell Gordy to vote for one of her 2 fellow spies
spies4kip (1:57:25 AM): k
spies4Summer (1:57:34 AM): So given those circumstances, she would not have told Gordy to vote for Damon or Candy if they were spies with her
spies4kip (1:57:43 AM): makes sense
spies4Summer (1:57:44 AM): Also her ignoring Leon is weird
spies4kip (1:58:57 AM): so leon looks good for both groups
spies4Masaki (1:59:16 AM): looks better for orthodoxy from all of that
spies4Masaki (2:00:04 AM): also, there's adelaide's imprisonment
spies4Masaki (2:00:11 AM): And his reaction to the fake investigation
spies4Masaki (2:00:21 AM): Adelaide was imprisoned by the Orthodoxy
spies4kip (2:00:26 AM): yeah adelaide mentioned stuff on leon she was gonna post
spies4Masaki (2:00:31 AM): Right after saying she had something on Leon
spies4kip (2:00:31 AM): but she never got around to it
spies4Singe (2:02:56 AM): has leon done anything pro-cit?
spies4Singe (2:02:58 AM): at all?
spies4kip (2:03:01 AM): no idea
spies4Masaki (2:03:03 AM): No
spies4Masaki (2:03:07 AM): To give you an example
spies4Summer (2:03:08 AM): Leon hasn't done anything.
spies4Summer (2:03:09 AM): Period.
spies4Masaki (2:03:12 AM): Exile 3
spies4Singe (2:03:16 AM): johan just posted about candy
spies4Masaki (2:03:18 AM): When my vote was still on Jeremiah
spies4Singe (2:03:20 AM): er damon
spies4Masaki (2:03:24 AM): Asked who I was voting
spies4Masaki (2:03:34 AM): I didn't even give him a reaosn before he said "ill go with that"
spies4Masaki (2:03:36 AM): !!!!!!
spies4Johan (2:03:58 AM): I did?
spies4Masaki (2:03:59 AM): I guess he did a good job as prosecutor
spies4Summer (2:04:21 AM): Hi Johan
spies4Johan (2:04:33 AM): Salutations, Summer!
spies4kip (2:04:55 AM): spies4Leon (9:18:35 PM): and Zander's case against him is extremly 100% rightspies4Leon (9:18:53 PM): and Masaki went into uber-defense mode as soon as Zander posted his thing
spies4Summer (2:04:55 AM): What are your thoughts on Leon, Johan?
spies4Johan (2:05:52 AM): I think Leon is perfect middle of road person, and yet... I cannot see him as Ortho, at all, and it doesn't look likely as Traditional.
spies4kip (2:06:06 AM): spies4Leon (9:19:08 PM): think about itspies4Leon (9:19:10 PM): Last roundspies4Leon (9:19:24 PM): "We cant get rid of Cain, he's probably a cit"
spies4kip (2:06:08 AM): spies4Leon (9:19:31 PM): This round now that he's a targetspies4Leon (9:19:40 PM): "CAIN'S A SPY, WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HIM, NOW!"spies4kip (9:19:54 PM): masaki said cain was a cit?
spies4Masaki (2:06:08 AM): Can't see him as Ortho?
spies4kip (2:06:20 AM): spies4kip (9:20:34 PM): i thought masaki was the one with the idea of keeping cain to hunt orthosspies4Leon (9:20:34 PM): it worked, but unfortunatly for families, i cantspies4kip (9:20:40 PM): cuz he was the trad
spies4kip (2:06:29 AM): spies4Leon (9:20:44 PM): hmm, well idkspies4Leon (9:20:50 PM): I just listened to what Zander said
spies4Masaki (2:06:31 AM): Dude wtf
spies4Masaki (2:06:35 AM): I never said Cain was probably a Cit
spies4Masaki (2:07:15 AM): Convenient of him to say that after I talked to him about why he was saying I never contributed
spies4Johan (2:07:20 AM): Well, I can see him as such But not probable
spies4kip (2:07:36 AM): he then goes on to say hes making a case against faizah
spies4Masaki (2:09:57 AM): [Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:54:49 PM] spies4Leon: What are your thoughts about Faizah?[Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:54:54 PM] spies4Masaki: Lurker central
spies4Summer (2:10:09 AM): She is though
spies4Summer (2:10:15 AM): Did you pay attention to her in the mini mafia game?
spies4Masaki (2:10:21 AM): No
spies4Summer (2:10:23 AM): Read it
spies4Masaki (2:10:24 AM): I was bum rushed first day
spies4Masaki (2:10:27 AM): So I left :-)
spies4Masaki (2:10:39 AM): I know she is
spies4Summer (2:10:41 AM): She took charge and took names and kicked butt
spies4Masaki (2:10:43 AM): I was the one who said it in that convo
spies4Summer (2:10:55 AM): And that's how she behaved as a citizen
spies4Masaki (2:11:06 AM): Hmm interesting
spies4Masaki (2:11:31 AM): Interesting find
spies4Summer (2:11:32 AM): She usually knew in the first minute of each round who she was voting for
spies4Masaki (2:12:01 AM): [Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:25 PM] spies4Masaki: That's actually something Candy said about you, too[Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:31 PM] spies4Masaki: Said you were "doing angelica's dirty work"
spies4Masaki (2:12:06 AM): [Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:42 PM] spies4Leon: how?[Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:49 PM] spies4Leon: i never spoke to Angie[Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:49 PM] spies4Leon: once[Saturday, 11-10-2007, 15:56:51 PM] spies4Leon: lol
spies4Masaki (2:13:25 AM): What was Leon's role in the mini mafia?
spies4Summer (2:13:29 AM): Mafia
spies4Summer (2:13:46 AM): He, Madison, and Zander were the mafia
spies4Masaki (2:13:52 AM): Which one was last to die?
spies4Summer (2:13:55 AM): Zander
spies4Masaki (2:14:00 AM): Which was first?
spies4Summer (2:14:03 AM): Leon
spies4kip (2:14:08 AM): spies4Leon (10:41:00 PM): after I thought about itspies4Leon (10:41:02 PM): I figuredspies4kip (10:41:09 PM): adelaide though!?
spies4kip (2:14:08 AM): spies4Leon (10:41:17 PM): yeahspies4Leon (10:41:22 PM): she had her suspicionsspies4Leon (10:41:32 PM): and every once in a whilespies4Leon (10:41:33 PM): were right
spies4kip (2:14:13 AM): spies4kip (10:41:42 PM): which seemed to be directed soley at the trads thoughspies4Leon (10:41:45 PM): yeahspies4Leon (10:41:53 PM): but who knows
spies4kip (2:14:17 AM): he then signs off
spies4Masaki (2:18:25 AM): Well folks
spies4Masaki (2:18:31 AM): Looking like Leon might be an Ortho
spies4kip (2:18:42 AM): its a distinct possibility
spies4Masaki (2:18:45 AM): But I'd like to speak with him
spies4Masaki (2:18:55 AM): See if I can weasle any inconsistencies with Angelica out of him
spies4Summer (2:19:05 AM): They never even said hi?
spies4Masaki (2:19:12 AM): He claims he never spoke to her
spies4Summer (2:19:16 AM): How did Bunni never say hi to Angelica either?
spies4kip (2:19:19 AM): i highly doubt they've never spoke
spies4kip (2:19:28 AM): ive seen everyone at least once so far
spies4Masaki (2:19:31 AM): Bunni says she was gon earlier in the game
spies4kip (2:19:32 AM): and ive been here 10 days
spies4Masaki (2:19:38 AM): So it's at least conceivably possible with her
spies4Summer (2:19:46 AM): Bunni was gone in episode 3 for a while
spies4Summer (2:19:56 AM): She forgot to vote in the first exile, but she was here
spies4kip (2:20:08 AM): was she on a lot thn?
spies4Summer (2:20:23 AM): It's Bunni
spies4Masaki (2:20:35 AM): ??
spies4Summer (2:20:41 AM): I'm trying to find a way to say this
spies4Summer (2:20:44 AM): Bunni wouldn't be on a lot
spies4Summer (2:20:46 AM): Or a little
spies4Summer (2:20:50 AM): She'd be in the middle because that's how she is
spies4Summer (2:21:14 AM): That's why she's the most 50-50 spy-citizen person here
spies4Masaki (2:21:38 AM): Yea and?
spies4Masaki (2:21:51 AM): *waits for the kicker*
spies4Summer (2:21:58 AM): That's all
spies4Masaki (2:22:04 AM): Well what's that mean?
spies4kip (2:22:23 AM): that shes in the middle
spies4Summer (2:22:33 AM): Yes
spies4Masaki (2:23:01 AM): heh
spies4Masaki (2:26:24 AM): anyway i gotta head out
spies4Summer (2:26:27 AM): Me too
spies4Masaki (2:26:33 AM): we should get another chat going tomorrow
spies4Masaki (2:26:36 AM): a lot more happens this way
spies4kip (2:26:59 AM): true
spies4kip (2:27:08 AM): easier to compare notes and such
spies4Masaki (2:27:18 AM): yea
spies4kip (2:27:21 AM): well take care masaki and summer
spies4Masaki (2:27:21 AM): anyway see you guys tomorrow
(2:27:25 AM) spies4Masaki has left the room.
spies4kip (2:27:25 AM): i should be heading out as well
spies4Summer (2:27:31 AM): Good night!
spies4kip (2:27:37 AM): night singe and johan as well
spies4kip (2:27:41 AM): if you're still here

[Summer]

spies4Summer (10:18:53 PM): Hi Candy
spies4Candy (10:19:02 PM): Summer
spies4Summer (10:19:07 PM): How are you?
spies4Candy (10:19:12 PM): SAFE
spies4Summer (10:19:23 PM): That's great
spies4Summer (10:19:25 PM): I have to check
spies4Candy (10:19:35 PM): You aren't
spies4Candy (10:19:40 PM): It's down to you, Abrams, Johan and Faizah
spies4Summer (10:19:46 PM): Oh my god
spies4Summer (10:19:52 PM): Please tell me you're kidding
spies4Candy (10:20:01 PM): Sorry kid
spies4Summer (10:20:11 PM): Oh my god
spies4Candy (10:20:37 PM): I really hope it's not you
spies4Summer (10:20:47 PM): Me too Candy
spies4Summer (10:21:11 PM): I think I'm going to be sick
spies4Candy (10:21:34 PM):
spies4Summer (10:22:02 PM): I was in a group chat last night with some players
spies4Summer (10:22:12 PM): Masaki, Singe, Kip, and Johan
spies4Summer (10:22:21 PM): I brought up the topic of who the spies are
spies4Summer (10:22:27 PM): I wonder if I'm getting imprisoned for it
spies4Candy (10:22:42 PM): Stop
spies4Candy (10:22:51 PM): You have to contribute
spies4Candy (10:22:59 PM): If you do make it through keep working hard
spies4Candy (10:23:04 PM): It's the only way we'll get the spies
spies4Summer (10:23:11 PM):
spies4Summer (10:23:24 PM): I am trying, Candy
spies4Candy (10:23:38 PM): I know
spies4Candy (10:23:44 PM): You could make it through
spies4Summer (10:24:44 PM): If I go, Leon's going to look really bad
spies4Summer (10:24:57 PM): Most of what I said was about him
spies4Summer (10:25:16 PM): Oh my god no no no
spies4Summer (10:32:12 PM): Candy I am having a heart attack
spies4Summer (10:47:00 PM): I'm so relieved
spies4Candy (10:47:05 PM): Congrats
spies4Summer (10:47:21 PM): spies4Johan (10:33:50 PM): By the way, if I am imprisoned, Singe must be exiled. If he is a citizen then Candy is for certain a spy. This I promise you from the depths of my heart.
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spies4Summer (2:41:21 AM): You need to talk to Zander and tell him to calm down
spies4Candy (2:41:28 AM): What's he doing?
spies4Summer (2:42:08 AM): He's raving in chat

[Summer]

spies4Summer (10:27:33 PM): Hi Johan
spies4Summer (10:27:42 PM): Are you as nerve wracked as I am right now?
spies4Johan (10:27:54 PM): Greetings, Summer, and... YES! May we pray that Abrams is out the door
spies4Johan (10:28:12 PM): With every passing minute I grow more afraid that my time is up, I am sure you must feel the same
spies4Summer (10:28:20 PM): I do
spies4Summer (10:30:50 PM): WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG
spies4Johan (10:31:07 PM): I KNOW! I keep refreshing... perhaps both of our faces will be gone in a minute,...
spies4Johan (10:31:24 PM): Oh...no. It is one of us, my dear
spies4Summer (10:31:27 PM): NO
spies4Summer (10:31:34 PM): This isn't fair
spies4Summer (10:31:51 PM): Abrams doesn't do anything!
spies4Johan (10:32:12 PM): No, not at all... But I would like to say farewell to you, as this will be our last time to speak... I am sorry that we could not speak more, you are very nice and also fun to talk to I hope that if I am gone you will excel for the rest of the game
spies4Summer (10:32:28 PM): Oh my god. It really is our last time to speak
spies4Summer (10:32:37 PM): I wish you the best of luck Johan
spies4Johan (10:32:37 PM): Yes... so heartbreaking to think of
spies4Johan (10:32:49 PM): Many thanks Perhaps one of us will go on to be victorious
spies4Johan (10:33:50 PM): By the way, if I am imprisoned, Singe must be exiled. If he is a citizen then Candy is for certain a spy. This I promise you from the depths of my heart.
spies4Summer (10:34:02 PM): All right
spies4Johan (10:39:29 PM): I wish you the best of luck, Summer, I, the former Priest who brought Gordy back, bid you a final farewell, may you catch the remaining spies
spies4Summer (10:39:52 PM): What?
spies4Summer (10:39:59 PM): You brought Gordy back?
spies4Johan (10:40:25 PM): Yes... I wove a dangerous web this round, and I lost.

[Summer]

spies4Faizah (10:32:22 PM): Good luck babe!
spies4Faizah (10:32:26 PM): Its you or Johan
spies4Summer (10:32:42 PM): This isn't fair Faizah
spies4Summer (10:32:44 PM): This isn't fair at all
spies4Faizah (10:32:58 PM): Johan still might go
spies4Faizah (10:33:04 PM): no one really suspects him
spies4Faizah (10:33:06 PM): and he is idle
spies4Faizah (10:33:08 PM): *prays*
spies4Summer (10:33:11 PM): Abrams doesn't do ANYTHING!
spies4Faizah (10:33:16 PM): Nope
spies4Summer (10:33:20 PM): I'm so upset
spies4Faizah (10:35:25 PM): brb hun
spies4Faizah (10:36:40 PM): back
spies4Faizah (10:36:53 PM): why does he draw it out like this???
spies4Summer (10:37:05 PM): I don't know
spies4Summer (10:37:09 PM): But I'm almost in tears
spies4Summer (10:37:17 PM): It's a game ... I need to "deal with it" ...
spies4Faizah (10:37:20 PM): Oh Summer!!! Dnt do that
spies4Faizah (10:37:33 PM): Lets put it this way
spies4Faizah (10:37:40 PM): at this point, an imprisonment is alot of respect
spies4Faizah (10:37:49 PM): Because you are a helpful citizen and all that jazz you know?
spies4Faizah (10:37:58 PM): Its stupid people like Abrams who will make it to the end, but have nothing to show for it
spies4Faizah (10:38:10 PM): YOUR SAFWE
spies4Faizah (10:38:12 PM): JOHAN WENT
spies4Summer (10:38:21 PM): Are you serious?
spies4Faizah (10:38:49 PM): YES!!!!!!!!!!
spies4Faizah (10:38:51 PM):
spies4Faizah (10:40:27 PM): Double exile coming up!!!!
spies4Faizah (10:40:29 PM): Thats exciting
spies4Summer (10:41:38 PM): I need a moment to collect myself
spies4Faizah (10:41:53 PM): Well, I dont think you are going ANYWHERE in either of the two next exiles
spies4Faizah (10:41:57 PM): so welcome to the Final 11!
spies4Faizah (10:41:58 PM):
spies4Summer (10:42:38 PM): For real?
spies4Summer (10:42:44 PM): It's that small already?
spies4Faizah (10:42:49 PM): 13
spies4Faizah (10:42:51 PM): minus Gordy 12
spies4Faizah (10:42:57 PM): afte two exiles, 10
spies4Summer (10:43:39 PM): That's really depressing
spies4Faizah (10:44:00 PM): Surely we wont miss fire on BOTH exiles.
spies4Summer (10:44:12 PM): I really hope we don't and I don't think we will
spies4Faizah (10:44:15 PM): Im hoping we at least have 1 spy down at least by Sunday
spies4Faizah (11:00:14 PM): ok
spies4Faizah (11:00:19 PM): so apparently Johan had a role
spies4Faizah (11:00:24 PM): and knows Candy OR Singe is a spy
spies4Faizah (11:00:28 PM): and thinks its Singe
spies4Faizah (11:00:32 PM): *head spins*
spies4Summer (11:00:54 PM): He told me the same thing
spies4Summer (11:01:05 PM): My reply is I'm afraid of a perfect double exile setup for the spies
spies4Faizah (11:01:23 PM): but why would Johan purposely screw us?
spies4Faizah (11:01:29 PM): he was a cit
spies4Summer (11:02:43 PM): Faizah, if you were eliminated right now, would you tell us to go after certain people?
spies4Summer (11:03:00 PM): And if you were wrong, could we say you were purposely trying to screw us?
spies4Faizah (11:03:17 PM): I probably would
spies4Faizah (11:03:25 PM): BUT I guess we need to wait until his "role" is made public
spies4Summer (11:04:53 PM): Gordy's posted
spies4Faizah (11:07:46 PM): hmmm
spies4Faizah (11:07:50 PM): That doesnt explain much
spies4Faizah (11:07:51 PM): ahah
spies4Summer (11:07:55 PM): What?
spies4Faizah (11:08:00 PM): his post
spies4Faizah (11:08:07 PM): about the Singe/Candy thing
spies4Faizah (11:35:09 PM): im going to bed
spies4Faizah (11:35:10 PM): night girl!
spies4Faizah (11:35:15 PM): PM me if you hear anything?
spies4Summer (11:35:17 PM): Good night Faizah!
spies4Summer (11:35:19 PM): Yes, absolutely

[Summer]

spies4gordy (10:34:05 PM): any last words for me?
spies4Summer (10:34:13 PM):
spies4Summer (10:34:16 PM): I'm having a heart attack
spies4gordy (10:34:21 PM):
spies4gordy (10:34:27 PM): tell me in case you're imprisoned
spies4gordy (10:34:29 PM): please
spies4gordy (10:34:30 PM): whatever you know
spies4Summer (10:34:43 PM): I don't know any secrets
spies4Summer (10:34:53 PM): I've posted most of my theories
spies4gordy (10:35:00 PM): who is your top suspect?
spies4Summer (10:35:06 PM): As of last night, Leon
spies4gordy (10:35:10 PM): Leon? Why?!
spies4Summer (10:35:13 PM): I went through those chats we had with Angelica
spies4gordy (10:35:15 PM): I forgot about that fucker
spies4gordy (10:35:25 PM): he is an ortho maybe??
spies4Summer (10:35:35 PM): I was in a group chat with Masaki, Singe, Kip, and Johan
spies4gordy (10:35:43 PM):
spies4Summer (10:35:46 PM): And I brought up my Angelica points on Leon to them
spies4Summer (10:35:49 PM): And then I posted them
spies4gordy (10:36:04 PM):
spies4gordy (10:36:10 PM): I see. Cheer up
spies4Summer (10:36:27 PM): Gordy, this is horrible
spies4Summer (10:36:35 PM): I am not ready to leave
spies4gordy (10:36:36 PM):
spies4gordy (10:36:44 PM): me neither, although I'm dead alreayd L
spies4Summer (10:36:54 PM): That was really insensitive of me
spies4Summer (10:36:56 PM): I'm sorry
spies4Summer (10:36:57 PM): I forgot
spies4gordy (10:37:22 PM): LOL
spies4gordy (10:37:28 PM): Leon huh?
spies4gordy (10:37:31 PM): I'll make a note of that
spies4gordy (10:49:31 PM): you made it
spies4gordy (10:49:35 PM): johna of all people?
spies4gordy (10:49:39 PM): explain to me Summer
spies4gordy (10:49:41 PM):
spies4Summer (10:49:51 PM): I really have no idea
spies4Summer (10:49:55 PM): He and I rarely spoke
spies4gordy (10:50:39 PM): did he send you anything as his final words?
spies4Summer (10:50:45 PM): Yes
spies4gordy (10:50:48 PM): what is it?
spies4gordy (10:50:56 PM): we need to pool all our Johan love
spies4Summer (10:51:03 PM): He said that Singe has to be exiled, and if Singe comes up as a citizen, Candy needs to be exiled
spies4Summer (10:51:35 PM): I told Masaki that if both are actually citizens, it's the spies' ticket to an incredible double exile
spies4gordy (10:52:17 PM): you told Masaki?
spies4gordy (10:52:18 PM):
spies4gordy (10:52:21 PM): he is my spy suspect
spies4gordy (10:52:38 PM): then again, if Masaki turns up cit, we know Zander was pushing for Masaki's exile forever
spies4Summer (10:54:48 PM): It could be a citizen pushing for a citizen though
spies4gordy (10:55:34 PM): that's true...
spies4gordy (10:55:54 PM): so the question is WHY was Johan imprisoned
spies4gordy (10:56:00 PM): over Candy, Zander, Masaki, aka the loud ones?
spies4gordy (10:56:07 PM): something iss trange
spies4Summer (10:56:23 PM): When I saw it was down to me, Abrams, and Johan, I thought for sure I was going
spies4Summer (10:56:33 PM): I didn't think anyone even remembered either were still in the game
spies4gordy (10:56:55 PM): I thought Abrams would be forefully removed
spies4Summer (10:56:59 PM): I did too, actually
spies4gordy (10:57:03 PM): this sucks
spies4gordy (10:57:10 PM): we lost someone trying to help, unlike Abrams
spies4Summer (10:57:42 PM): Was he?
spies4gordy (10:58:23 PM): Johan was a good citizen compared to Abrams
spies4gordy (10:58:28 PM): he was easy to talk to, share ideas
spies4gordy (10:58:34 PM): Abrams just says "meh"
spies4gordy (10:58:45 PM): what a dumb fucktard I hate him
spies4gordy (10:58:49 PM): worst citizen ever

[Summer]

spies4Masaki (10:41:03 PM): ...
spies4Masaki (10:41:04 PM): wtf
spies4Summer (10:41:12 PM): I almost cried
spies4Masaki (10:41:14 PM): Johan isn't making sense
spies4Summer (10:41:16 PM): I'm ashamed to admit it
spies4Masaki (10:44:34 PM): Johan is saying to exile Singe, and if Singe is not a Spy, to exile Candy...
spies4Masaki (10:44:41 PM): Which goes against everything he's been saying before...
spies4Summer (10:46:11 PM): He told that to me too
spies4Summer (10:48:22 PM): And if neither are spies, the spies have a ticket to a free double exile
spies4Summer (10:48:30 PM): This episode is going to be downright brutal
spies4Masaki (10:48:49 PM): *sigh*
spies4Masaki (10:48:53 PM): I don't know how we can even pull it off
spies4Masaki (10:48:57 PM): Singe will be hard enough
spies4Masaki (10:48:59 PM): but Candy?
spies4Masaki (10:49:03 PM): Might as well forget that
spies4Masaki (10:49:39 PM): then again, Johan was one of her allies
spies4Masaki (11:12:15 PM): Summer
spies4Masaki (11:12:19 PM): I'm going to post what Johan said
spies4Masaki (11:12:23 PM): But can you back it up for me?
spies4Summer (11:14:00 PM): Sure
spies4Masaki (11:53:26 PM): Ok posted
spies4Masaki (11:53:37 PM): and I don't like Singe's response of "it would be stupid of me to imprison him"
spies4Masaki (11:53:49 PM): He could've had that response ready and done it anyway
spies4Masaki (11:54:05 PM): But whatever, I want to hear what Gordy says first.
spies4Summer (11:57:22 PM): Yes I agree that it does sound planned
spies4Summer (11:57:30 PM): It's a HUGE decision though
spies4Masaki (11:57:50 PM): I know
spies4Masaki (11:58:03 PM): I don't know about Candy, her story seems to check out
spies4Summer (12:00:16 AM): Spies from both sides gave anti-Candy messages
spies4Summer (12:00:18 AM): I find that interesting
spies4Masaki (12:00:39 AM): how do they know it was from both sides?
spies4Masaki (12:00:45 AM): timing?
spies4Summer (12:01:22 AM): I have no idea
spies4Summer (12:01:29 AM): Johan said that
spies4Masaki (12:01:39 AM): it must have been timing, then
spies4Masaki (2:41:42 AM): What's not fair?
spies4Summer (2:42:28 AM): Well yes she told you to tell everyone, but not in the context you've said
spies4Masaki (2:42:44 AM): Huh?
spies4Masaki (2:43:24 AM): He's trying to say I spun it all like it was a plan
spies4Masaki (2:43:27 AM): Candy wanted me to relay her messages
spies4Masaki (2:43:39 AM): so whatever
spies4Masaki (2:48:14 AM): Man
spies4Masaki (2:48:33 AM): He's way out of line, so why are you getting on my case?
spies4Masaki (2:48:38 AM): Seriously...
spies4Masaki (2:50:55 AM):
spies4Summer (2:51:23 AM): Why is he so upset about this?
spies4Masaki (2:51:32 AM): He's been going nuts ever since Madison left
spies4Summer (2:51:38 AM): I suppose so
spies4Masaki (2:51:46 AM): I talked to him the night she left
spies4Masaki (2:51:54 AM): He was all saying he wanted to be imprisoned and such

[Summer]

spies4hannah (11:32:10 PM): hey
spies4Summer (11:32:19 PM): Oh hi!
spies4Summer (11:32:32 PM): I really need to go to the bathroom and then we'll start?
spies4hannah (11:32:41 PM): no prob
spies4hannah (11:41:12 PM): hey u there?
spies4Summer (11:45:30 PM): Yes
spies4Summer (11:45:40 PM): I lost the piece of paper where I wrote down my questions for you but I just found it!
spies4hannah (11:45:44 PM): lol
spies4Summer (11:45:54 PM): I put it in the wrong binder
spies4Summer (11:47:20 PM): Are you ready?
spies4hannah (11:47:35 PM): yup
spies4Summer (11:47:42 PM): All right!
spies4Summer (11:47:54 PM): Hannah, one question I'd like to ask you is, how did you end up in a family with Faizah and Beverly?
spies4Summer (11:47:58 PM): How did you become a diva?
spies4hannah (11:50:36 PM): alright. basically at the point in the game when we had to pick second families i chatted to faizah ALOT, and felt that we clicked well in terms of coming up with theories, and thus i trusted her, so i joined in a family with her, and well bev came along with her. Ever since beverly being exiled Faizah and i dont chat as much, i think it has to do with the fact that she trusted bev so completely and is now wary of trusting ppl too much.
spies4Summer (11:51:20 PM): How did Beverly's exile affect who you trust?
spies4hannah (11:53:58 PM): well I wasn't 100% sure but I was pretty sure she was a citizen, so when she was a confirmed spy it got me thinking that firstly, me, as well as other ppl of the burg, shudnt trust so easily. For example, Gordy trusted beverly too and told her some info about his role. I am now trying to base my trust for ppl on facts that accumulate to show me i can trust them.
spies4hannah (11:55:53 PM): <done>
spies4Summer (11:56:30 PM): You're good
spies4hannah (11:56:57 PM): lol
spies4Summer (11:57:06 PM): Gordy has just revealed that the last 3 imprisonments (4 if you include the no-imprisonment) targeted citizens with roles. Do you think the spies are still working to eliminate spies?
spies4hannah (12:00:10 AM): Well, before it was said that they had roles, I thought they were very odd ppl to have been targeted, other than gordy who almost everyone knew had a role. Adelaide because she seemd very citizeny, and Johan was so quiet he didnt seem a threat. But now that gordy has said that they had roles it makes more sense. The scary question is of course, how did the spies find out about these roles. I think that citizens with roles are a much larger threat to the spies at this stage than other spies, thus while i think the spies will try to target other spies, their priorities i think lie in citizens who are threats to them.
spies4hannah (12:01:13 AM): <done>
spies4Summer (12:01:48 AM): I would agree with that
spies4Summer (12:01:56 AM): Who do you think is being used?
spies4hannah (12:03:14 AM): hmmm. The first person that springs to mind is Kip. he seems to be eager to blindly agree with most of what Singe says. Now why i dont necessarily think Singe is a spy, I just thought this was odd. Some ppl claim that Candy is using ppl, and i suppose i can sort of see why they see that, but i dont think she is.
spies4hannah (12:04:08 AM): <done>
spies4Summer (12:05:01 AM): Gordy claims that the Fatemaker gave Angelica an advantage on the group challenge. Why did your group perform so poorly?
spies4hannah (12:06:44 AM): i was very disappointed in that challenge. At that time it was still the old Damon playing, and he wasnt online enough for us even to arrange a time to do the challenge with him there. We did arrange a time with cain, and then Cain just didnt show up, so we were forced to do it with two ppl. So many of the activities required three ppl to do, and we just couldnt do them.
spies4Summer (12:07:52 AM): Tell me about former family alliances. Angelica mentioned that your family had one with Gordy's. Do you think any of it was spy-motivated?
spies4hannah (12:12:29 AM): Very early on in the game, i think it was on the second day already, Ralph approached me and said we should join in an alliance with his family and beverly's family because "the first round is more like survivor than spies" and at that point both his family and beverly's family were pushing for abrams exile. Then bev and martha had their fight, and we all switched to martha. After that, we remained in a type of alliance with ralphs family and started getting close to gordy. To be honest, i really dont know if it was spy motivated or not. Ralph gordy and maddy have all turned out to be citizens, and the last member of that family is zander who i dont personally suspect. of the original diva family, lloyd was inno, bev a trad spy, and faizah and bunni are still alive. and from my original family, angie an ortho spy cain innocent, and me and damon still alive. Gordy did tell angie he had a role however, and i think this is why she wanted to keep him close.
spies4hannah (12:13:31 AM): done
spies4Summer (12:13:40 AM): You're a great interviewee Hannah
spies4Summer (12:13:52 AM): What diva forum secrets can you share with us?
spies4hannah (12:14:48 AM): sadly very little. we pretty much made a total of three posts overall in our family forum, and most of it was Bev saying how awesome divas are and celebrating that her and faizah and bunni won that mini mafia game.
spies4Summer (12:15:13 AM): Could you make up something juicy?
spies4Summer (12:15:22 AM): I'm kidding
spies4hannah (12:15:32 AM): lol
spies4Summer (12:16:12 AM): Was there a question you hoped I'd ask?
spies4hannah (12:16:54 AM): no question in particular, no.
spies4hannah (12:18:33 AM): do u have more questions?
spies4Summer (12:19:38 AM): Hmm
spies4Summer (12:19:44 AM): It's a wrap!
spies4Summer (12:19:49 AM): Thank you for your time Hannah
spies4hannah (12:19:49 AM): cool thanks
spies4hannah (12:19:54 AM): no prob

[Summer]

spies4kip (11:51:33 PM): hey
spies4Summer (11:52:38 PM): Hello Kip
spies4Summer (11:52:45 PM): I almost cried tonight
spies4Summer (11:52:49 PM): I really thought my number was up
spies4kip (11:54:20 PM): 50./50 it seemed
spies4kip (11:54:24 PM): but johan? had a role?
spies4kip (11:54:30 PM): i knew he was a citizen, but a role is shocking
spies4kip (11:54:57 PM): and gordy has more information on all this? its crazy
spies4kip (11:57:30 PM): singe a spy? hard to believe
spies4Summer (11:57:41 PM): You know what's even harder to believe?
spies4Summer (11:57:52 PM): That even though so many people trust him, he was so low on the "in danger" list
spies4Summer (11:58:07 PM): It's such a great position to be in and I think he's capable of putting himself there
spies4Summer (11:58:22 PM): Also, this is the perfect round for Gordy to be here
spies4kip (11:58:31 PM): exactly

[Summer]

spies4Summer (2:36:08 AM): Hi Zander ... listen ... if you're drunk this might not be the best time to be in chat
spies4Summer (2:36:29 AM): They're pretty hungry for a scapegoat tonight
spies4Zander (2:36:40 AM): i knwo they are summer but you knwo me i have nothing to hide
spies4Zander (2:36:45 AM): they can bandaegon all they want
spies4Zander (2:36:57 AM): i know masaki is a spy and i know candy and singe are trying to set me up just cause johan told me yesterday and its bs
spies4Summer (2:37:26 AM): Singe may be trying to set you up, but I don't think Candy is
spies4Zander (2:37:27 AM): im not a fucking spy and this game sukcks and i ve alwsays worked hard and now im just fucking going to go awhen all these shithead inactives sit here and accuse me and its such bullshit
spies4Zander (2:37:32 AM): i shouldnt be upset right now but i am
spies4Zander (2:37:37 AM): uim ficuking upset beyond words
spies4Summer (2:37:39 AM): I know
spies4Zander (2:37:43 AM): i always work hard in sams games
spies4Summer (2:37:50 AM): You have worked hard in this one
spies4Zander (2:37:57 AM): and now these alssoholes try to pinpoitn me for nothing when i go out of my way to work hard
spies4Zander (2:38:18 AM): im getting way too emitoin right now
spies4Summer (2:38:19 AM): That's why this might not be the best time to tell them
spies4Summer (2:38:26 AM): I believe you
spies4Summer (2:38:39 AM): But you should make your case when you're at 100%
spies4Summer (2:38:48 AM): Not when you're sad and vulnerable
spies4Summer (2:39:03 AM): And drunk
spies4Zander (2:40:26 AM): I made my case against masaki days ago though
spies4Zander (3:10:32 AM): thanks for beign the only one without their head up their ass
spies4Summer (3:11:23 AM): It's one of the benefits that comes with being a girl.
spies4Zander (3:12:10 AM): apparently
spies4Summer (3:42:37 AM): He called my case above average. I'm not sure if I should be pleased or disgusted.
spies4Zander (3:43:06 AM): both?
spies4Zander (3:43:12 AM): irgh aim still too drunk to deal with this right now
spies4Zander (3:43:23 AM): summer i trust ou do you trust mecause apparently people are lying to my face when they say they do
spies4Zander (3:43:36 AM): the only people i think are citz right now are you hannah and candy and nobody really seems to agree
spies4Zander (3:43:43 AM): but i do i trust you all cause im still here
spies4Zander (3:43:47 AM): if you were spies idb e gone for usre
spies4Summer (3:44:01 AM): That's not certain
spies4Summer (3:44:09 AM): But I do trust you at the moment
spies4Summer (3:44:20 AM): I think the spies have been irresponsible with their imprisonment choices.
spies4Summer (3:44:26 AM): And it will cost them the game.
spies4Zander (3:45:11 AM): im so tired summer
spies4Zander (3:45:16 AM): tired in life and tired of this game lol
spies4Zander (3:45:20 AM): can i tell you a secret
spies4Summer (3:45:24 AM): Yes
spies4Summer (3:45:31 AM): But only if you want to.
spies4Zander (3:45:31 AM): iw as hoping hid be impresioned tonight or this comign week
spies4Zander (3:45:34 AM): i still kind fo hope i am
spies4Zander (3:45:47 AM): i love spie and i love sam and everyone here even though i cact like ajekr
spies4Summer (3:45:51 AM): This game is incredibly stressful.
spies4Zander (3:45:55 AM): but every week those i trust or like a lot are taken away fro mem
spies4Zander (3:46:06 AM): it shouldnt be making me sad in real life but it is
spies4Zander (3:46:17 AM): i have very good rea l life cfriendships too thats why its weird lool
spies4Zander (3:46:21 AM): but i got very attached to madison
spies4Summer (3:46:46 AM): Well in a game that is heavily communications-focused, it can happen
spies4Summer (3:46:56 AM): In theory we all talk to each other all the time
spies4Summer (3:47:09 AM): Relationships are normal
spies4Zander (3:47:17 AM): Summer if youre a spy do me a favor and imprsion me lol i wont tell
spies4Summer (3:47:45 AM):
spies4Zander (3:47:46 AM): i just need stress relief. i push hard and everyone dislikes me. i yell and deveryone dislikes me. yet if i ever laid low everyone would yell at me and dislike me and suspect me and want to get rid of me
spies4Summer (3:47:55 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (3:47:59 AM): It's funny when you say it that way
spies4Summer (3:48:05 AM): Cheer up
spies4Summer (3:48:19 AM): We're still here and we still have a chance to win
spies4Zander (3:48:42 AM): We don't just hav ea chance to win, we have th eodds to win, right?
spies4Summer (3:49:11 AM): Nope!
spies4Summer (3:49:16 AM): The odds are against us
spies4Zander (3:49:30 AM): hgow?
spies4Zander (3:49:35 AM): ont we outnumber the spies like a lot
spies4Summer (3:50:13 AM): According to Singe's calculations, if we exile the last Traditionalist, the Orthodoxy have a 60% chance of beating us
spies4Zander (3:50:29 AM): but what if we exile an otrhto
spies4Summer (3:50:29 AM): I've never put much faith in the odds though
spies4Zander (3:50:33 AM): also that calcuation is bs
spies4Zander (3:50:42 AM): it rules out personal feeling snad intersctions
spies4Zander (3:50:44 AM): which are huge
spies4Zander (3:50:48 AM): we can win this. i know we can
spies4Summer (3:51:04 AM):

[Summer]

spies4Masaki (11:59:55 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Singe (11:59:55 PM) has entered the room.
spies4hannah (11:59:55 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Summer (11:59:55 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Masaki (12:00:08 AM): Candy was having problems joining earlier so she might not show
spies4kip (12:00:20 AM) has entered the room.
spies4hannah (12:01:07 AM): hi guys. summer and i are just doing our interview so we mite be a bit quiet in here fornow.
spies4Summer (12:01:12 AM): Yes, sorry
spies4Singe (12:01:49 AM): ill wait to tell my story til you girls are free
spies4hannah (12:01:59 AM): thanks, we'll be quick i think.
spies4Singe (12:02:03 AM): take your time
spies4kip (12:02:09 AM): k
spies4Singe (12:02:09 AM): and i really enjoyed your two interviews hannah
spies4hannah (12:03:31 AM): thanks
spies4kip (12:03:50 AM): im being interviewed now btw as well
spies4kip (12:03:52 AM): by candy
spies4hannah (12:04:03 AM): i am so glad johan and i did the interview before his imprisonment
spies4Singe (12:04:55 AM): you guys know now that johan had a role
spies4Singe (12:05:12 AM): i found out about it last night at midnight, so like 12 hours ago i think, let me post the first PM
spies4Singe (12:06:56 AM): ill post this also
spies4Singe (12:07:15 AM): Alas, but no, she has passed with flying colors thus far, I would like to tell you all of my role and what it entails but I would prefer doing that in IMs if possible.I told Candy of the role that I have
spies4Singe (12:07:22 AM): (that's johan)
spies4Singe (12:07:45 AM): (Which is still insignificant however I beefed it up a bit) and I then wait to see as she does with it. As a spy it would make sense for her to want to be rid of citizens with roles and yet she has surely had an opportunity
spies4Singe (12:07:51 AM): to get rid of me and has not done so yet. I think that given what I told her of my role that she would have gotten rid of me by now if she were a spy. Of course this does not clear Candy at all, and it definitely shouldn't be looked
spies4Singe (12:08:07 AM): at that way... But it does make me feel a little bit more safe of her for right now.Nobody else in this game has any idea of my having a role also, something I would like to remain that way I was testing Candy
spies4Singe (12:08:14 AM): to see how well she'd keep that a secret, also.
spies4Singe (12:08:29 AM): that was nov 9th
spies4Singe (12:08:50 AM): this is oct 29:
spies4Singe (12:09:04 AM): "Hello my good friend, I would like to talk to you for you are one whom I believe can be trusted within the Burg. Perhaps this is foolish of me to think so?"
spies4Singe (12:09:15 AM): "But regardless I choose to do so for we must place our faith in someone.I think that Candy is suspicious. I have talked to her more than anyone else in this game"
spies4Singe (12:09:24 AM): ", and while I feel that she is a citizen, I also believe that she is a good suspect as well.So I have set her up. Please say NOTHING of this to ANYBODY"
spies4Singe (12:09:33 AM): "not even those whom you trust, or else if she is a spy it will not be proven as others will know of what I do.What I can tell you is that if I am imprisoned, Candy is a spy. If I am not imprisoned"
spies4Singe (12:09:43 AM): then I think that she may be trusted. If you wish to learn more then I will do my best to be online in AIM some time late tonight.You have no reason to trust me, of course
spies4Singe (12:09:57 AM): but perhaps this will assist you in creating a network of citizens whom you may trust. I am not sure of your trusted friends in this game thus far, but in an attempt to make up for my lack of activity I am hoping to help
spies4Singe (12:10:05 AM): those however I can.I can also understand how you could view this as one spy trying to "clear" another spy into your list of trusted people.
spies4Singe (12:10:13 AM): May I hope that by talking we can move past that, for it is not the case.Finally, I have a role, but it is of little signifigance to the game.
spies4Singe (12:10:20 AM): You probably will not believe me, given the enormous number of made up roles in past games, but I would be glad to talk about this in AIM any time.Have a good day my friend.
spies4Singe (12:10:26 AM): In the most highest regards,Johan.
spies4Singe (12:10:51 AM): then he AOL IMed me the details of his role last night
spies4Singe (12:11:00 AM): and i got this pm at 1 this afternoon:
spies4Singe (12:11:22 AM): (posting it in the burg)
spies4Masaki (12:12:53 AM): By the way, Candy cannot join the chat
spies4Masaki (12:12:57 AM): I am relaying everything to her
spies4Masaki (12:13:07 AM): And I'll post any response she wants to send
spies4Masaki (12:13:10 AM): (here)
spies4hannah (12:16:15 AM): ZANDERRR LIESSSS [image] , LOOK THROUGH HANNAH AND ZANDER'S POSTS THEY ARE ALL STYLE AND NO SUBSTANCE. THEY CREATE FAKE FIGHTS AND THINK MASAKI IS THE LAST TRAD. LOOOOOOOK

Yours,
readcarefullyghostly [image]
spies4hannah (12:16:17 AM): lol
spies4hannah (12:16:23 AM): beverly by any chance?
spies4Masaki (12:16:32 AM): No
spies4Singe (12:16:32 AM): or not
spies4Summer (12:16:33 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Masaki (12:16:36 AM): Bev would call me Mistaki
spies4Masaki (12:16:42 AM): well maybe not
spies4hannah (12:17:20 AM): i dont think masaki is the last trad
spies4hannah (12:17:27 AM): i think he mite be an ortho
spies4Masaki (12:17:49 AM): Yay
spies4Masaki (12:17:55 AM): I have one MasakiIsAnOrtho fan
spies4hannah (12:18:24 AM): lol
spies4hannah (12:19:24 AM): lol "gordy wasnt here to hear this"....what manipulation
spies4Summer (12:20:11 AM): Yay
spies4Masaki (12:20:11 AM): ok if those dead people were smart
spies4Masaki (12:20:23 AM): they would have sent some kind of code before the first spy was eliminated
spies4Masaki (12:20:28 AM): so that Johan could decipher which was which
spies4Masaki (12:20:38 AM): soe ach time they sent a message, they sent the code
spies4Summer (12:21:44 AM): Problem
spies4Summer (12:21:55 AM): Let's say you were imprisoned Masaki
spies4Summer (12:22:01 AM): How would you have sent a code to Johan?
spies4Summer (12:22:06 AM): You don't know who you're communicating with
spies4Masaki (12:22:16 AM): No
spies4Masaki (12:22:24 AM): The first three episodes, only citizens were eliminated
spies4Summer (12:22:30 AM): I'm also sure that Sam places restrictions on what can or can't be sent
spies4Masaki (12:22:34 AM): So Johan knows any messages he receives are from citizens
spies4Summer (12:22:38 AM): Yes
spies4Masaki (12:22:40 AM): So they should have THEN sent him a code
spies4hannah (12:23:02 AM): how on earth did johan accidentally send a message to singe that was meant for candy but was about singe?
spies4Masaki (12:23:05 AM): "any message you receive from us in the future, will begin with the word "whattup!"
spies4Summer (12:23:17 AM): I'm sure that Sam wouldn't have allowed them to send that, Masaki
spies4Masaki (12:23:23 AM):
spies4kip (12:23:28 AM): yeah
spies4kip (12:23:29 AM): now
spies4Masaki (12:23:41 AM): They coulda kept their typing pattern consistent at least!
spies4kip (12:23:42 AM): im sure if the cits tohught of just starting every thing with whattup
spies4kip (12:23:46 AM): then johan would kno
spies4Masaki (12:23:48 AM): Always end with a wink or something
spies4kip (12:23:55 AM): cuz if he gets 20 before a spy goes all starting with whattup
spies4kip (12:24:02 AM): the next one is from a cit too
spies4Masaki (12:24:06 AM): right
spies4Masaki (12:24:09 AM): well maybe sam did filter them
spies4Masaki (12:24:10 AM): who knows
spies4kip (12:24:17 AM): but i doubt they'd be like "we'll say this everytime"
spies4Masaki (12:24:32 AM): thing is
spies4Masaki (12:24:43 AM): They didn't even keep their typing patterns consistent
spies4Masaki (12:24:46 AM): The last one was def. from a cit
spies4Masaki (12:24:52 AM): BEcause it was before Angelica was eliminated
spies4Summer (12:25:10 AM): Which one?
spies4Masaki (12:25:32 AM): the last one of singe's first post
spies4kip (12:28:48 AM): eyah
spies4Singe (12:29:25 AM): ok that's enough for now
spies4Singe (12:29:29 AM): you all reading?
spies4Masaki (12:29:46 AM): Read already
spies4Masaki (12:29:48 AM): talking to candy
spies4Masaki (12:29:52 AM): &relaying
spies4Masaki (12:29:52 AM):
spies4hannah (12:30:06 AM): which one was before angi'es exile?
spies4Masaki (12:30:15 AM): the last one on the first post
spies4Masaki (12:30:31 AM): it refers to Angelica's deal, so it has to be.
spies4Summer (12:30:37 AM): Is Candy saying anything?
spies4Masaki (12:31:03 AM): Only thing she's really said
spies4Masaki (12:31:11 AM): Is that she had a code worked out in case she was imprisoned/exiled
spies4Masaki (12:31:26 AM): And that certain players cannot send messages because they broke the rules or something
spies4hannah (12:31:47 AM): singe, who else knew about johans role except for u and candy?
spies4Singe (12:33:11 AM): gordy
spies4Singe (12:33:25 AM): and i want to hear from gordy who else he told
spies4Singe (12:33:42 AM): because as i said today he is a loudmouthed careless retard
spies4hannah (12:33:42 AM): omg gordy. gordy tells many ppl many things usually
spies4Singe (12:33:59 AM): he'd better tell us the truth
spies4Singe (12:34:08 AM): or else he will get me killed, i look fairly bad here
spies4Masaki (12:34:09 AM): ohhh shit
spies4Masaki (12:34:15 AM): I didn't see the last post
spies4Masaki (12:34:19 AM): THAT is what he was talking about
spies4Singe (12:34:36 AM): who
spies4Summer (12:34:37 AM): What last post?
spies4hannah (12:34:46 AM): what?
spies4Masaki (12:35:08 AM): Before Johan left, he said he made a mistake because he wrote the wrong name somewhere... now that I see that he sent you what he accidentally meant to send Candy, I understand what he was saying.
spies4Singe (12:35:14 AM): right
spies4Summer (12:35:24 AM): He put a name in the subject line and a name in the sender line
spies4Summer (12:35:35 AM): But reversed it
spies4Singe (12:35:51 AM): you guys all caught up?
spies4kip (12:35:56 AM): still reading
spies4Masaki (12:36:40 AM): Yeah I've got it
spies4kip (12:36:48 AM): "If we are in fact both citizens with roles then it is our utmost duty to form an alliance with which we can out both the final Trad. spy and the two remaining Ortho. spies. I hope that this may come into fruition."
spies4kip (12:36:54 AM): singe you have a role?
spies4Masaki (12:37:02 AM): Don't role fish
spies4Masaki (12:37:23 AM): That was just Johan rolefishing I think
spies4Summer (12:37:36 AM): *Giggle* "role fish"
spies4Singe (12:38:11 AM): back with chips and salsa
spies4hannah (12:38:15 AM): whew
spies4Singe (12:38:22 AM): obv that's a ton of crap
spies4Singe (12:38:25 AM): doh
spies4hannah (12:38:26 AM): that was a lot of reading
spies4Singe (12:38:30 AM): yeah
spies4Singe (12:38:41 AM): guess you're all caught up
spies4kip (12:38:46 AM): yeah done reading
spies4Singe (12:38:47 AM): um, what to discuss
spies4Singe (12:38:54 AM): any questions?
spies4Singe (12:39:07 AM): really crazy day
spies4Singe (12:39:17 AM): don't all ask at once
spies4kip (12:39:24 AM): is she buying a stairway to heaven?
spies4hannah (12:39:29 AM): did johan give u all the messages he received from the dead?
spies4Singe (12:39:36 AM): i doubt it
spies4Singe (12:39:39 AM): he didnt trust me
spies4kip (12:40:01 AM): so you want us to target candy?
spies4Singe (12:40:03 AM): no
spies4Singe (12:40:09 AM): i want everyone to use their heads
spies4Singe (12:40:24 AM): and i want gordy to log the fuck in
spies4hannah (12:40:33 AM): well obviously first order of business is finding out who knew about the role
spies4kip (12:40:46 AM): johan claims only candy and singe knew
spies4Summer (12:40:48 AM): Johan's messages seem fairly certain that only he, Candy, and Singe knew about the role
spies4hannah (12:40:48 AM): altho when gordy logs on he often puts himelf under "invisible"
spies4Singe (12:40:49 AM): yup
spies4Singe (12:40:54 AM): and gordy
spies4Summer (12:40:57 AM): However
spies4Singe (12:41:00 AM): so we NEED gordy in here
spies4Summer (12:41:16 AM): How did the Orthodoxy spies know about Adelaide?
spies4Summer (12:41:29 AM): Perhaps they knew of Johan through the same means
spies4Singe (12:41:29 AM): someone talked about them inving a role
spies4hannah (12:41:31 AM): candy thinks they may still have investigative powers
spies4Singe (12:41:50 AM): she said something like "they did 2 role invs and 1 spy inv"
spies4kip (12:41:51 AM): well if angelica had the double vote, they should have inv powers
spies4Singe (12:41:56 AM): right
spies4kip (12:42:05 AM): and the double votes stopped when ang went
spies4Summer (12:42:16 AM): I wasn't particularly close with Adelaide but she never hinted to me she had a role
spies4Summer (12:42:28 AM): And 3 citizens with roles in a row is too large of a coincidence for me to believe
spies4hannah (12:42:41 AM): yeah ia gree
spies4kip (12:42:43 AM): we know the spies can talk
spies4kip (12:42:47 AM): sam told us as much
spies4Summer (12:42:52 AM): Right
spies4Singe (12:42:55 AM): yeah they say cain had a role
spies4Summer (12:42:57 AM): So the spies either 1) Had a lucky guess
spies4kip (12:42:59 AM): these players have to be telling people
spies4Singe (12:43:00 AM): but he never told us he did
spies4kip (12:43:03 AM): and one of them is a spy
spies4Summer (12:43:04 AM): 2) Got inside information from the role holders themselves
spies4Summer (12:43:14 AM): Or 3) Have an ability to detect roles
spies4hannah (12:43:15 AM): if cain had a role and behaved like that then he really is the worst citi ever
spies4kip (12:43:39 AM): the odds of the orthos hitting 3 citz with roles in a row is hard to believe
spies4Singe (12:43:40 AM): before impris tonight candy accused me for 20 minutes of being the last trad
spies4Singe (12:43:54 AM): yelling, shouting
spies4kip (12:43:56 AM): thes players told someone
spies4kip (12:44:01 AM): and someone they told was a spy
spies4Singe (12:44:04 AM): i hope i have a record of it, masaki, please confirm this with her
spies4kip (12:44:06 AM): who then tol dthe other group
spies4kip (12:44:18 AM): the spies obviously dont care about imprisoning spies
spies4Singe (12:44:26 AM): please have candy confirm that she badgered me for 20 minutes about me being the last trad spy
spies4Singe (12:44:35 AM): right before johan got axed
spies4kip (12:44:41 AM): the spies are content with us exiling spies
spies4kip (12:44:49 AM): so they can pick and choose imprisonment victems
spies4kip (12:45:04 AM): and it sucks cuz we cant do anything about it, cuz if we see a spy we have to take them out
spies4hannah (12:45:49 AM): masaki, candy says say what she said to say about cain
spies4Masaki (12:45:57 AM): I am hold up
spies4Masaki (12:46:04 AM): I told Candy what you asked me to have her confirm, singe
spies4Masaki (12:46:05 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:12 AM] spies4Candy: Tell this to them
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:21 AM] spies4Candy: He was tight with Gordy and Bev
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:25 AM] spies4Candy: Gordy knows NOTHING of a role
spies4Singe (12:46:32 AM): ask her if she yelled at me for 20 minutes about me being the last trad spy
spies4Masaki (12:46:32 AM): god dammit
spies4Masaki (12:46:39 AM): I did ask her
spies4Singe (12:46:40 AM): right before tonight's impris
spies4Masaki (12:46:42 AM): Waiting for a response
spies4Singe (12:46:46 AM): is she avoiding answering?
spies4Masaki (12:46:56 AM): She's not typing, that's all I know
spies4Masaki (12:46:59 AM): No response yet
spies4kip (12:47:01 AM): shes posting our interview i think
spies4Singe (12:47:03 AM): heh
spies4Masaki (12:47:06 AM): She badgered me the other day as well
spies4Singe (12:47:10 AM): well think about htis
spies4Masaki (12:47:12 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:50 AM] spies4Candy: And then this
spies4Masaki (12:47:15 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:51 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Beverly (6:50:04 PM): CAIN ITS OK SAM ISNT ON U CAN STAY ON A LITTLE BIT
spies4Beverly (6:50:18 PM): DO U HAVE ANY GOODBYES
spies4kip (12:47:18 AM): candy told me johan was one of the two she told about bev
spies4Masaki (12:47:19 AM): spies4Cain (6:50:22 PM): aww that fcuking sucks
spies4Beverly (6:50:32 PM): ITS NOT LIKE U HAD A ROLE
spies4Cain (6:50:48 PM): yea but i wanted to play
spies4Masaki (12:47:22 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:44:54 AM] spies4Candy: Tell them that
spies4Masaki (12:47:25 AM): This is NOT in response to you, Singe
spies4Masaki (12:47:28 AM): Still waiting for a response
spies4Singe (12:47:47 AM): if i was the last trad
spies4kip (12:47:50 AM): spies4kip (12:32:07 AM): candy, johan had a lot of trust in you
spies4kip (12:32:13 AM): was he one of the two you told about bev?
spies4Candy (12:32:14 AM): Yep
spies4kip (12:47:51 AM): spies4Candy (12:33:00 AM): No point in holding that back now
spies4kip (12:33:13 AM): so he was?
spies4Candy (12:33:31 AM): Yep
spies4Singe (12:47:59 AM): killing johan after all that happened today would have been suicide
spies4Singe (12:48:12 AM): i am now admittedly thet prime suspect in his death
spies4Singe (12:48:16 AM): with candy #2
spies4hannah (12:48:19 AM): or it couls be the WIFOM theory
spies4Singe (12:48:24 AM): right
spies4hannah (12:48:35 AM): (7:53:34 AM) spies4Candy: Badgering?
(7:53:37 AM) spies4Candy: I didn't BADGER him
(7:53:39 AM) spies4Candy: I RIPPED INTO HIM
(7:53:50 AM) spies4hannah: lol
spies4Singe (12:48:35 AM): but at least think it all the way through
spies4hannah (12:48:47 AM): there u go she confirms it
spies4Singe (12:48:52 AM): ok
spies4Singe (12:49:00 AM): so it's on the record
spies4Singe (12:49:08 AM): she thinks im trad not ortho
spies4Singe (12:49:15 AM): why wouldnt i be a possible ortho?
spies4Masaki (12:49:23 AM): How did she badger you?
spies4Masaki (12:49:25 AM): What'd she say?
spies4Singe (12:49:30 AM): YOU LIE
spies4Singe (12:49:32 AM): YOU LIE
spies4Masaki (12:49:33 AM): Because she did this to me on Monday/Tuesday
spies4Singe (12:49:36 AM): BLAH BLAH BLAH
spies4Singe (12:49:42 AM): YOU'RE GOING DOWN
spies4Masaki (12:49:44 AM): Basically taunting me, telling me to imprison her and such
spies4hannah (12:50:10 AM): (7:54:37 AM) spies4Candy: Tell him this
(7:54:46 AM) spies4Candy: IF HE WANTS ME TO BRING UP WHY I RIPPED INTO HIM I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO OBLIGE
spies4Singe (12:50:20 AM): tell her to get her sorry ass in here
spies4Singe (12:50:23 AM): i have NOTHING to hide
spies4Masaki (12:50:29 AM): Sent
spies4Masaki (12:50:45 AM): She's typing a resposne
spies4Masaki (12:50:48 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:50:51 AM] spies4Candy: Tell him "We're sorry but we're currently experiencing technical difficulties"
spies4hannah (12:50:56 AM): someone invite her again
spies4Masaki (12:51:03 AM): Done
spies4Masaki (12:51:23 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:51:15 AM] spies4Masaki: Hannah asked me to try inviting you again
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:51:22 AM] spies4Candy: What's the room name again
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:51:26 AM] spies4Masaki: toolshed
spies4Masaki (12:51:42 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:51:37 AM] spies4Candy: Could not get information on chat room sent by inviter 'spies4kip'.
Please ask the inviter to try again later.
spies4Masaki (12:51:47 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:51:40 AM] spies4Candy: <HR>Could not get information on chat room sent by inviter 'spies4Masaki'.
Please ask the inviter to try again later.
spies4Singe (12:52:02 AM): if she is a cit
spies4kip (12:52:03 AM):
spies4hannah (12:52:08 AM): try logging out and logging back in
spies4Singe (12:52:11 AM): she is going to lose us this game by being hardheaded
spies4Singe (12:52:20 AM): just like she did with cain
spies4Masaki (12:52:22 AM): She already tried that Hannah
spies4Singe (12:52:29 AM): she didnt listen to any opposing arguments
spies4Singe (12:52:50 AM): question is though is she a cit or a spy? gordy and johan trusted her
spies4Singe (12:53:04 AM): but how could a cit act so terribly
spies4hannah (12:53:37 AM): i dont see whats so terrible about it?
spies4Summer (12:53:46 AM): She's exiled 2 spies so far
spies4Summer (12:53:50 AM): She seems to be doing better than you
spies4Masaki (12:53:50 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:53:22 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Candy: You keep doing that
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:53:24 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Candy: "If you are a citizen, you better do what I tell you to do"
spies4Masaki (12:53:53 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:53:28 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Candy: I've already told you that I'm not your puppet to jerk around
spies4Masaki (12:53:57 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:53:31 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Candy: I will make my own decisions
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 00:53:36 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Candy: I don't need you to tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing
spies4Masaki (12:53:58 AM): Sent
spies4Masaki (12:54:02 AM): One was via investigation
spies4Masaki (12:54:09 AM): Err
spies4Masaki (12:54:10 AM): woops
spies4Singe (12:54:15 AM): how has candy exiled two spies?
spies4Summer (12:54:21 AM): She made the call on Naomi
spies4kip (12:54:21 AM): i count bev
spies4Singe (12:54:22 AM): she got an inv
spies4kip (12:54:27 AM): she made the call?
spies4Singe (12:54:28 AM): so she is MOST LIKELY not a trad
spies4Singe (12:54:44 AM): gordy got Ang
spies4Singe (12:54:49 AM): sam got emma
spies4kip (12:54:50 AM): from what i saw, half the burg thought naomi was a spy
spies4hannah (12:54:53 AM): singe u have to admit cain looked seriously bad
spies4Singe (12:55:01 AM): yes hannah but i posted evidence
spies4Summer (12:55:01 AM): Yes, in a group chat with several people, including Adelaide and Zander, we were going back and forth on Naomi and Cain and she made the call
spies4kip (12:55:12 AM): everyone though both were spies
spies4Singe (12:55:18 AM): ang caught naoimi
spies4kip (12:55:23 AM): she said to vote naomi cuz as long as she was there votes would be split
spies4Singe (12:55:23 AM): candy did not
spies4kip (12:55:25 AM): which was true
spies4Singe (12:55:39 AM): so summer, andy caught a trad and voted a trad
spies4kip (12:55:47 AM): if people wanted cain to go, the vote woulda been like 7-6 cain over naomi
spies4Singe (12:55:56 AM): so how does that make her any less ortho?
spies4kip (12:56:03 AM): it doesnt make her less ortho
spies4Summer (12:56:04 AM): My point is, she's not a Traditionalist and her intentions seem genuine
spies4Singe (12:56:10 AM): genuine?
spies4kip (12:56:21 AM): for all i kno you could all be fucking spies
spies4Summer (12:56:25 AM): We can't
spies4Summer (12:56:28 AM): There are 5 of us here
spies4kip (12:56:32 AM): 3 of you
spies4hannah (12:56:33 AM): there are only 3 spies left
spies4kip (12:56:36 AM): whatever
spies4kip (12:56:39 AM): you kno what i meant
spies4Summer (12:56:42 AM): Yes, sorry
spies4Singe (12:57:07 AM): i sent this to candy today:
spies4kip (12:57:14 AM): the fact is candy caught bev, and wsa right on naomi
spies4kip (12:57:19 AM): but a lot of people were right on naomi
spies4Singe (12:57:21 AM): "Well, Johan has probably informed you of his fuckup at this point, so I know that I'm your top exile target. Good to see your instincts haven't improved since the Cain exile."
spies4kip (12:57:32 AM): just cuz she was the one that said "ok lets vote naomi this time" doesnt mean it was her
spies4Singe (12:57:33 AM): "If you are a Cit (of which I am uncertain) and you Exile ME, you will probably be ridiculed after the game for the dumbest move in the game bar none."

[Summer]

spies4Singe (12:57:42 AM): "I have been 100% honest with you, and you have apparently lied through your teeth to me about your intentions."
spies4Singe (12:57:47 AM): etc etc and she never replied
spies4Singe (12:57:51 AM): she is NOT sincere
spies4Summer (12:58:03 AM): That's your opinion
spies4Singe (12:58:04 AM): she is overladen with ego and thinks inflexibly
spies4kip (12:58:26 AM): i have to side with singe here
spies4kip (12:58:31 AM): i love what candys done
spies4kip (12:58:36 AM): but she's very strong willed
spies4Summer (12:58:45 AM): Yes she is
spies4kip (12:58:48 AM): and it can be grating
spies4hannah (12:58:49 AM): yes but too many ppl arent strong willed enough
spies4kip (12:59:01 AM): if everyone was, we'd never vote
spies4kip (12:59:06 AM): cuz no one would settle
spies4hannah (12:59:07 AM): the fact that she is willing to stick her neck out makes a difference
spies4kip (12:59:15 AM): and others havent?
spies4Summer (12:59:22 AM): She's the #1 target for imprisonment and exile
spies4Singe (12:59:26 AM): on the Cain exile:
spies4Singe (12:59:27 AM): "Give yourself a big fat tick for voting for Cain too. I'm proud of the case I made against him even if it was wrong. It was coherent and thorough and helped cement my reputation as a player."
spies4hannah (12:59:27 AM): thats not what i am saying
spies4Singe (12:59:31 AM): TOTAL denial
spies4Summer (12:59:36 AM): Bunni has immunity
spies4Singe (12:59:39 AM): it was NOT thorough
spies4Summer (12:59:41 AM): How has she stuck her neck out?
spies4kip (12:59:46 AM): bunn is not a spy
spies4Singe (12:59:47 AM): she accused Cain of falsifying logs
spies4hannah (12:59:49 AM): i am saying that by being this way she is REALLY sticking her neck out
spies4Summer (12:59:51 AM): She's also not helpful
spies4kip (12:59:54 AM): i dont care what people think
spies4Singe (12:59:58 AM): people, candy accused a CIT of falsifying logs
spies4hannah (1:00:05 AM): how do u know she is not a spy?
spies4Masaki (1:00:06 AM): sorry guys
spies4hannah (1:00:09 AM): that was to kip?
spies4Masaki (1:00:11 AM): i'm rushing copy/pasting this for Candy
spies4Singe (1:00:13 AM): do you understand the seriousness of that?
spies4kip (1:00:13 AM): my gut
spies4kip (1:00:19 AM): and its been right so far
spies4Masaki (1:00:23 AM): so i'm having trouble keeping up on the reading
spies4hannah (1:00:24 AM): well ur gut isnt going to convince me
spies4kip (1:00:37 AM): im not trying to convince you hannah
spies4Summer (1:00:37 AM): Guys stop
spies4Summer (1:00:41 AM): We have a vote tomorrow
spies4Masaki (1:00:46 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:00:23 AM] spies4Candy: The timestamps speak for themselves
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:00:33 AM] spies4Candy: And I commented on why I thought they were falsified
spies4Summer (1:00:47 AM): Unless you're trying to say "exile Candy" drop it
spies4Summer (1:00:56 AM): The exile is our first priority
spies4kip (1:00:58 AM): right now im voting leon
spies4kip (1:01:04 AM): barring what gordy says
spies4hannah (1:01:15 AM): okay. so if not candy and if not singe, and if gordy never tells us who he told, then who?
spies4Singe (1:01:19 AM): i am saying that unless gordy tells us he told someone else
spies4Singe (1:01:22 AM): about johan
spies4Singe (1:01:29 AM): i am 99.5% sure candy is a spy
spies4kip (1:01:30 AM): i said i was voting leon then
spies4hannah (1:01:35 AM): but singe they could have inved
spies4Summer (1:01:37 AM): Johan seemed to think YOU were a spy
spies4Singe (1:01:44 AM): no he didnt
spies4Singe (1:01:48 AM): read carefully smart gitrl
spies4Summer (1:01:56 AM): Did you even read the message he missent?
spies4Singe (1:02:01 AM): ...
spies4Singe (1:02:08 AM): hellooooo
spies4Summer (1:02:09 AM): Who do you think he was playing, Singe?
spies4Summer (1:02:10 AM): You or her?
spies4Summer (1:02:21 AM): Because he sticks up for her over and over and over again in those PMs
spies4Singe (1:02:33 AM): ok summer its your funeral
spies4kip (1:02:45 AM): he lied to singe i case singe was a spy
spies4hannah (1:02:47 AM): how is that helpful?
spies4kip (1:02:50 AM): not because singe is a spy
spies4kip (1:03:09 AM): theres a lot of grey
spies4hannah (1:03:30 AM): alright so once again, if not candy or singe, then who? aside from kip who has already answered
spies4Singe (1:03:31 AM): he was talking about candy having a role, not me, to whoever asked:
spies4Singe (1:03:34 AM): "This is to protect you more as he will not see you as "confirmed" to me, someone with a role."
spies4Masaki (1:03:50 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:03:47 AM] spies4Candy: My vote is for Leon right now as well
spies4Singe (1:04:04 AM): ask candy why johan said i was their #1 exile target
spies4Singe (1:04:06 AM): that lying ho
spies4hannah (1:04:07 AM): no he was saying that he had a role
spies4hannah (1:04:20 AM): me, someone with a role
spies4Masaki (1:04:31 AM): Asking her now
spies4Masaki (1:04:36 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:04:38 AM] spies4Candy: He really wants me to say the answer to that question?
spies4hannah (1:04:39 AM): in other words, he felt that who he thought was confirmed helf wait because he had a role
spies4Masaki (1:04:40 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:04:43 AM] spies4Candy: Ask him if he's sure
spies4hannah (1:05:16 AM): i personally think leon does look suspivious but is just another citizen following in the ridiculous playstyle of jeremiah ralph and cain
spies4kip (1:05:30 AM): then my bad
spies4Singe (1:05:38 AM): the spy who set up tonight is sophisticated
spies4Masaki (1:05:42 AM): Singe she is IMing you
spies4kip (1:05:50 AM): but i wont blindly follow people attacking singe or candy
spies4Masaki (1:06:30 AM): and guys personally i don't even know what to think give me until tomorrow to think it over, i haven't even had the chance to read half the shit you've said in here
spies4Masaki (1:06:59 AM): but at first singe looked really bad after johan left, but after seeing that it was all a setup, I'm not even sure anymore
spies4Masaki (1:07:13 AM): I want to see what Gordy has, because it sounds like he has more for us
spies4kip (1:07:28 AM): whats gordy waiting for though?
spies4Masaki (1:07:50 AM): Said he wanted to wait until he could get online again, so sounded like he had to get off
spies4hannah (1:08:08 AM): i have a feeling this exile is going to end badly
spies4Singe (1:08:23 AM): masaki
spies4Masaki (1:08:27 AM): Yes?
spies4Singe (1:08:28 AM): how do you KNOW you can trust me
spies4kip (1:08:28 AM): at least we have to to correct whatever we fuck up
spies4Singe (1:08:36 AM): that this is a setup
spies4kip (1:08:36 AM): two*
spies4Masaki (1:08:39 AM): I don't know I can trust you
spies4Singe (1:08:52 AM): "spies4Masaki: but at first singe looked really bad after johan left, but after seeing that it was all a setup, I'm not even sure anymore"
spies4Masaki (1:09:16 AM): Yeah, and?
spies4kip (1:09:32 AM): how do you know its a set up
spies4Masaki (1:09:34 AM): No
spies4Masaki (1:09:39 AM): Johan was setting Singe up
spies4Masaki (1:09:43 AM): To test him
spies4Masaki (1:09:47 AM): What I'm saying is
spies4Masaki (1:10:03 AM): Candy knew about it, but didn't know about Johan sending him the message, so it makes HER look bad
spies4Masaki (1:10:17 AM): Otherwise we probably never would've heard about that side of the story, and singe probably would've been exiled
spies4hannah (1:10:35 AM): knew about what?
spies4Masaki (1:10:45 AM): Johan sending that message to Singe by mistake
spies4hannah (1:10:59 AM): no, what makes candy look bad?
spies4Masaki (1:12:11 AM): Well to me, it looks possible that Candy waited until Johan told his role to Singe, because she would know in that scenario that Johan would suspect Singe if he were Imprisoned(it was the entire point of their setup)
spies4Masaki (1:12:30 AM): But what bothers me is that it was the Traditionalist's turn to imprison
spies4Masaki (1:12:46 AM): I simply don't see Candy as Traditionalist AT ALL
spies4Masaki (1:12:46 AM): So this leaves me fairly torn
spies4Singe (1:12:56 AM): one poss is that candy is ortho
spies4kip (1:12:58 AM): then who is the trad
spies4Singe (1:13:00 AM): learned about johan ep 5
spies4Singe (1:13:06 AM): and told the trad in a spy comm
spies4Singe (1:13:09 AM): BUT
spies4Singe (1:13:15 AM): why kill johan who was her ally
spies4Singe (1:13:18 AM): makes no sense
spies4Masaki (1:14:45 AM): well like i said, the motivation would be to set you up
spies4Masaki (1:14:59 AM): though why not just imprison you instead, i don't know
spies4Summer (1:15:14 AM): And if we exiled Singe and he was a citizen, like Johan said, she's next to go.
spies4Summer (1:15:23 AM): It's like claiming a false investigation
spies4Masaki (1:15:47 AM): Well then guys what the fuck happened here?
spies4Summer (1:15:56 AM): 3 options
spies4Masaki (1:16:01 AM): for all we know this could've just been a random ass imprisonment
spies4hannah (1:16:09 AM): and if theyve both ben set up, then we lose TWO very helpful citizens in a row
spies4Singe (1:16:12 AM): yes, if i die, candy will likely go next
spies4Summer (1:16:15 AM): 1) Random
spies4Summer (1:16:18 AM): 2) Spy power
spies4kip (1:16:20 AM): theres nothing random about it
spies4Summer (1:16:21 AM): 3) Singe or Candy
spies4kip (1:16:23 AM): its to convientent
spies4Summer (1:16:36 AM): Since they knew about Adelaide I am banking on a spy power
spies4Summer (1:16:45 AM): You think Johan was random? Adelaide was too
spies4kip (1:16:48 AM): or johan told the wrong person
spies4Masaki (1:17:00 AM): Johan claims only 2 people knew
spies4Summer (1:17:02 AM): Johan's PMs indicate that he didn't tell anyone but Gordy, Candy, and Singe
spies4Masaki (1:17:04 AM): I don't think he'd forget that.
spies4kip (1:17:06 AM): or johan told someone who leaked it
spies4hannah (1:17:21 AM): yes ppl but lets not forget gordy could have told ppl
spies4Summer (1:17:27 AM): All right
spies4Masaki (1:17:29 AM): Well that's what I'm saying
spies4Masaki (1:17:32 AM): Let's wait on Gordy
spies4kip (1:17:33 AM): i dont think gordy would tell anyone but the fatemaker
spies4hannah (1:17:33 AM): OR it could have been found out thru an invest
spies4Summer (1:17:34 AM): Has Gordy leaked information to anyone here?
spies4Masaki (1:17:44 AM): No
spies4kip (1:17:46 AM): no
spies4Summer (1:17:48 AM): Not to me
spies4hannah (1:18:06 AM): no
spies4Singe (1:18:20 AM): i have things for gordy to tell the fatemaker
spies4Singe (1:18:26 AM): to release after i die
spies4Summer (1:18:42 AM): That would be foolish to tell us
spies4Singe (1:18:44 AM): so fatemaker, be sure to ask gordy for those before the exile
spies4Summer (1:18:55 AM): If any of us are spies and you go and someone posts something, now we all know it's the fatemaker
spies4Summer (1:19:04 AM): Brilliant idea
spies4Singe (1:19:14 AM): ok scratch that
spies4hannah (1:20:04 AM): okay bed time for me.
spies4Summer (1:20:12 AM): Good night Hannah
spies4kip (1:20:21 AM): night
spies4Masaki (1:20:25 AM): bye H
spies4Singe (1:20:47 AM): lesson to be learned
spies4Singe (1:20:47 AM): johan made a mistake
spies4Singe (1:20:50 AM): it's probably why he died
spies4kip (1:20:54 AM): dont make mistakes?
spies4Singe (1:20:58 AM): right
spies4Singe (1:21:04 AM): don't trust people like that
spies4kip (1:21:18 AM): every game has had issues with people leaking roles
spies4Masaki (1:21:18 AM): Is that a confession?
spies4Singe (1:21:23 AM): for god's sake he trusted Candy at Episode 5
spies4Singe (1:21:30 AM): enough to tell her his role
spies4Singe (1:22:06 AM): and he hinted to me that he had a role on Oct. 29th
spies4Singe (1:22:07 AM): even though apparently he has been unsure about me
spies4Singe (1:22:07 AM): (or Candy put doubts in his head between then and now)
spies4Singe (1:22:46 AM): remember:
spies4Singe (1:22:46 AM): "Finally, I have a role, but it is of little signifigance to the game. You probably will not believe me, given the enormous number of made up roles in past games, but I would be glad to talk about this in AIM any time."
spies4Singe (1:22:46 AM): i've known johan had a role for over two weeks
spies4Singe (1:23:17 AM): also from that oct 29th pm:
spies4hannah (1:23:19 AM): sorry before bed, didnt u just say that u only found out about his role 24 hrs ago?
spies4Singe (1:23:19 AM): "What I can tell you is that if I am imprisoned, Candy is a spy. If I am not imprisoned, then I think that she may be trusted."
spies4Singe (1:23:29 AM): i got the details 24 hrs ago
spies4Summer (1:23:35 AM): Why wait so long?
spies4Singe (1:23:41 AM): cause i was on vaca
spies4Singe (1:23:46 AM): then started a new job
spies4Summer (1:24:06 AM): It's surprising you didn't follow up on it though
spies4Singe (1:24:14 AM): let me look for the PM
spies4Singe (1:24:45 AM): on nov 9th i finally replied to that message
spies4Singe (1:24:48 AM): "Johan,How'd this plan work out for you? Still find Candy suspicious?Singe"
spies4Singe (1:24:58 AM): Re: Greetings, Singe« Message sent on Nov 9, 2007, 3:02pm »
spies4Singe (1:25:10 AM): 'his response:
spies4Singe (1:25:24 AM): "Alas, but no, she has passed with flying colors thus far, I would like to tell you all of my role and what it entails but I would prefer doing that in IMs if possible. "
spies4Singe (1:25:36 AM): etc (it's posted in the burg)
spies4hannah (1:26:06 AM) has left the room.
spies4kip (1:26:12 AM): you waited ten days?
spies4Singe (1:26:24 AM): i got back from the islands nov 5th
spies4Singe (1:26:33 AM): started a new travel job nov 7th
spies4Summer (1:26:50 AM): You know what boggles my mind
spies4Summer (1:26:56 AM): How this is so interesting to me
spies4Singe (1:27:01 AM): what is
spies4kip (1:27:03 AM): i agree summer
spies4Summer (1:27:06 AM): But players like Abrams, Leon, Bunni, whatever couldn't be bothered with it
spies4Singe (1:27:08 AM): haha
spies4kip (1:27:09 AM): its like a mystery novel
spies4Singe (1:27:15 AM): they MAY be interested, we'll see
spies4kip (1:27:17 AM): WHO DONE IT!
spies4Singe (1:27:29 AM): bunni thinks im a Cit
spies4Masaki (1:27:30 AM): heh
spies4Singe (1:27:30 AM): so hopefully she'll take an interest
spies4kip (1:27:44 AM): she been on tonight?
spies4Singe (1:27:45 AM): this afternoon
spies4Singe (1:27:53 AM): i told her i was mad at gordy
spies4kip (1:27:54 AM): so she missed it all?
spies4Singe (1:28:04 AM): think so
spies4Summer (1:28:06 AM): She posted in response to Candy's interview, so she's been here
spies4Summer (1:28:13 AM): Not around imprisonment time though
spies4kip (1:28:23 AM): ah
spies4Masaki (1:28:24 AM): Yeah I talked to her either today or yesterday
spies4Masaki (1:28:32 AM): Anyway guys
spies4kip (1:28:32 AM): she was in the chat last night
spies4Masaki (1:28:38 AM): I think I'll post this
spies4Summer (1:28:42 AM): All of this?
spies4Masaki (1:28:45 AM): No reason this chat should be kept secret
spies4Summer (1:28:46 AM): Would you read it?
spies4Masaki (1:28:46 AM): why not?
spies4Summer (1:29:02 AM): If it makes you happy, go for it!
spies4Masaki (1:29:03 AM): Well, what is there to be lost by posting it? The evidence is there
spies4Singe (1:29:09 AM): why is sam rushing things
spies4kip (1:29:16 AM): rushing?
spies4Singe (1:29:16 AM): exile TOMORROW?
spies4Summer (1:29:19 AM): Because it's already day 39
spies4kip (1:29:23 AM): imp was supposed to be yesterday
spies4Singe (1:29:26 AM): i know
spies4Summer (1:29:26 AM): And we're only halfway through
spies4kip (1:29:35 AM): exile on sat as well
spies4Masaki (1:29:36 AM): game's almost over
spies4Masaki (1:29:47 AM): 13 players
spies4kip (1:29:47 AM): i say we exile both singe and candy haha
spies4kip (1:29:49 AM):
spies4Masaki (1:29:52 AM): 3 will be gone by the end of this episode
spies4Masaki (1:29:54 AM): gordy, and 2 exiles
spies4Summer (1:29:58 AM): 4
spies4Summer (1:29:59 AM): Johan
spies4Masaki (1:30:03 AM): 13
spies4Masaki (1:30:05 AM): 14 with Johan
spies4kip (1:30:08 AM): down to 10
spies4Masaki (1:30:11 AM): 13 - 3 : 10
spies4kip (1:30:16 AM): hopefully AT LEAST 2 spies
spies4Summer (1:30:17 AM): So what about exile?
spies4Masaki (1:30:28 AM): Oh god I don't know
spies4Summer (1:30:35 AM): Has anyone actually been against the idea of exiling Leon?
spies4kip (1:30:42 AM): doesnt appear so
spies4Masaki (1:30:44 AM): Umm
spies4Masaki (1:30:51 AM): I don' think so
spies4Summer (1:30:51 AM): Just wondering.
spies4kip (1:31:00 AM): well some players wanted masaki
spies4Singe (1:31:03 AM): i will try to post a COMPLETE summary of all evidence tonight and tomorrow
spies4kip (1:31:08 AM): but now i think that blew over
spies4Singe (1:31:08 AM): for everyone
spies4Singe (1:31:21 AM): we need to look for players who have done NOTHING pro-Cit
spies4Singe (1:31:27 AM): i think Leon may be one lol
spies4Masaki (1:31:35 AM): Faizah, Leon, Abrams
spies4kip (1:31:45 AM): singe... its hard to look for pro cit stuff here
spies4kip (1:31:49 AM): cuz theres three groups
spies4Summer (1:31:51 AM): Did anyone else think Abrams was going to be tossed out for inactivity when it came down to his picture, mine, and Johan's?
spies4Singe (1:31:52 AM): at least TRYING
spies4Singe (1:32:04 AM): haha you must have been nervous summ
spies4Summer (1:32:10 AM): I was actually almost in tears
spies4kip (1:32:14 AM): doing sometihng procit could also be proortho
spies4Summer (1:32:39 AM): I made the remarkably insensitive comment to Gordy that I didn't want to be imprisoned
spies4Singe (1:32:39 AM): sure
spies4Singe (1:33:18 AM): by the way, just so you all know
spies4Singe (1:33:18 AM): gordy has been "trying to trap me"
spies4Singe (1:33:18 AM): like i tried to trap leon
spies4Masaki (1:33:22 AM): Hm?
spies4Singe (1:33:26 AM): he seems to really think i am a spy
spies4Masaki (1:33:33 AM): Weird
spies4Masaki (1:33:36 AM): You weren't on his list
spies4Singe (1:33:50 AM): he says consensus in the LL is that im a likely spy candidate
spies4Singe (1:34:08 AM): he told me if i imprissed one of three people he wouldnt tell the burg i was a spy
spies4Masaki (1:34:24 AM): haha what? Which 3?
spies4Singe (1:34:28 AM): it was a list of like Leon, Abrams, Faizah" or some three inactives
spies4Singe (1:34:40 AM): but anyhow he can bring it public for all i care
spies4Singe (1:35:04 AM): by the way what was the deal with addy's role
spies4Singe (1:35:07 AM): Dreamcatcher
spies4kip (1:35:18 AM): "dream up suspect lists"
spies4Summer (1:35:19 AM): Your guess is as good as mine
spies4Masaki (1:35:19 AM): Apparently she got a list of suspects
spies4Masaki (1:35:24 AM): WHICH GORDY FORGOT THE NAMES OF
spies4Masaki (1:35:29 AM): All he remembered was Abrams
spies4kip (1:35:32 AM): ...
spies4Summer (1:36:15 AM): Would you really have preferred that Johan brought Adelaide back?
spies4Summer (1:36:34 AM): I already know Singe's answer
spies4kip (1:37:32 AM): i wouldve picked lise
spies4Singe (1:37:34 AM): yeah i think so, she paid more attention
spies4Singe (1:37:40 AM): but she was crackpot lol
spies4Singe (1:37:50 AM): but probably more cautious about secrets
spies4Singe (1:37:58 AM): by the way this is also important
spies4kip (1:38:13 AM): what is
spies4Singe (1:38:41 AM): i forget who, gordy or johan, said something about who the spies couldnt imprison in Addy's impris
spies4Singe (1:38:49 AM): because of immunity
spies4Singe (1:39:05 AM): like 7 people were immune
spies4kip (1:39:10 AM): from imp?
spies4Singe (1:39:14 AM): yes
spies4Summer (1:39:17 AM): In the burg?
spies4kip (1:39:19 AM): how
spies4Singe (1:39:25 AM): i dont know
spies4kip (1:39:26 AM): did 7 people get immune?
spies4Masaki (1:40:44 AM): Do we know who?
spies4Singe (1:41:21 AM): looking for my notes
spies4Singe (1:41:34 AM): i pasted the list on a work laptop
spies4Singe (1:42:31 AM): Faizah, Johan, Cain, Leon, Abrams, Damon, Singe were immune
spies4Summer (1:43:08 AM): Someone thinks you're pretty worthless Singe
spies4Singe (1:43:35 AM): someone protected me
spies4Singe (1:43:52 AM): i think gordy knows the details
spies4Singe (1:44:14 AM): but that means the spies had to choose from a SMALL group for that impris
spies4Singe (1:44:20 AM): was that the ortho exile?
spies4kip (1:44:46 AM): yeah
spies4kip (1:44:50 AM): last one was ortho
spies4Singe (1:45:03 AM): OK so the orthos chose from {Summer, Candy, Masaki, Kip, Adelaide, Zander}
spies4Singe (1:45:10 AM): and chose Adelaide
spies4Masaki (1:45:12 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:44:57 AM] spies4Masaki: Not sure if 24 hours will be enough time for me to make a decision over this new shit
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:45:05 AM] spies4Candy: Deal with it
spies4Singe (1:45:36 AM): masaki you're sure tied into candy
spies4Masaki (1:45:53 AM): She's asking me who everyone's voting for
spies4Singe (1:46:00 AM): why doesnt she ask
spies4Masaki (1:46:07 AM): I dunno
spies4Masaki (1:46:12 AM): She's scared though
spies4kip (1:46:19 AM): why
spies4Singe (1:46:31 AM): she was scared of me imprissing her tonight
spies4Singe (1:47:00 AM): summer what do you think of that spy impris choice
spies4Singe (1:47:08 AM): {Summer, Candy, Masaki, Kip, Adelaide, Zander}
spies4Singe (1:47:15 AM): and they chose Adelaide
spies4kip (1:47:16 AM): ade over candy?
spies4Summer (1:47:19 AM): Role
spies4Summer (1:47:22 AM): She had one
spies4Summer (1:47:24 AM): Candy didn't
spies4kip (1:47:35 AM): role is one scenario
spies4Summer (1:47:37 AM): Or at least Johan says she doesn't
spies4Singe (1:47:51 AM): johan didnt trust me
spies4Singe (1:48:01 AM): im not sure he would have told me either way

[Summer]

spies4Masaki (1:48:13 AM): ok guys
spies4Masaki (1:48:19 AM): Candy is now saying someone else knew about Johan's role
spies4Singe (1:48:23 AM): what
spies4Singe (1:48:25 AM): the
spies4Singe (1:48:26 AM): fuck
spies4kip (1:48:29 AM): who
spies4kip (1:48:31 AM): details!
spies4Singe (1:48:39 AM): why has she held this back
spies4Masaki (1:48:45 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:47:21 AM] spies4Masaki: Well, here is how I'm looking at it
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:47:30 AM] spies4Masaki: Only you three knew about Johan's role, right?
spies4Masaki (1:48:48 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:47:47 AM] spies4Masaki: You didn't tell anyone else, Gordy didn't tell anyone else, and Johan didn't tell anyone else?
spies4Masaki (1:48:52 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:48:04 AM] spies4Candy: Oh shit
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:48:13 AM] spies4Candy: One other person knew
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:48:28 AM] spies4Candy: Johan told them before he resurrected Gordy
spies4Masaki (1:48:56 AM):
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:48:35 AM] spies4Candy: I totally forgot
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:48:47 AM] spies4Candy: I completely totally forgot
spies4Singe (1:49:01 AM): ,,.....
spies4Singe (1:49:03 AM): @#$@#RE
spies4Singe (1:49:08 AM): who
spies4kip (1:49:17 AM): zander.... $50 on zander
spies4Singe (1:49:20 AM): lolol
spies4Singe (1:49:24 AM): no
spies4Masaki (1:49:27 AM):
[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:49:27 AM] spies4Candy: Uh tell him to calm the fuck down and I'll pull it up
spies4Singe (1:49:29 AM): johan didnt trust zander
spies4kip (1:49:33 AM): candy did
spies4Singe (1:49:43 AM): naw
spies4kip (1:49:59 AM): and johan told you he suspected damon and zander cuz you id
spies4Singe (1:50:24 AM): "If you are citizen then you must prove it by helping find out the Ortho spies (Whom I believe must be a combination of Hannah, Zander, Damon, Leon), who have been elusive throughout the entire game."
spies4Masaki (1:50:30 AM): Zander
spies4Singe (1:50:35 AM): haha
spies4Singe (1:50:41 AM): the plot thickens
spies4Masaki (1:50:43 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:50:22 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Zander: Oh well, at least Gordy is back
spies4Candy: Which is so kickass
spies4Zander: and AMAZING
spies4Zander: props to Johan for bringing him back
spies4Masaki (1:51:19 AM): Timing is still a factor
spies4Masaki (1:51:27 AM): Why now?
spies4kip (1:51:29 AM): tell him biggest suspects are Damon and Zander. This I think he wanted to hear, so I gave it to him

spies4Masaki (1:51:40 AM): Asking her when he found out about the role
spies4kip (1:51:59 AM): invite zander in here
spies4kip (1:52:01 AM): hes on
spies4kip (1:52:04 AM): why isnt he in here
spies4Masaki (1:52:06 AM): I already have
spies4Masaki (1:52:13 AM): Invited again
spies4Masaki (1:52:49 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:51:42 AM] spies4Masaki: When did Zander find out about the role?

[Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:52:46 AM] spies4Candy: Exile 8
spies4Masaki (1:52:56 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:52:54 AM] spies4Candy: Johan was afraid Gordy wouldn't believe him
spies4Singe (1:53:02 AM): why on earth did johan trust zander
spies4Masaki (1:53:04 AM): Zander is not responding to my IM's nor the invite
spies4Masaki (1:53:16 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:53:06 AM] spies4Candy: So he dropped a hint about past players coming back
spies4Masaki (1:53:31 AM): [Thursday, 11-15-2007, 01:53:29 AM] spies4Candy: spies4Johan: Uhoh, yes... he guessed to me that you knew of this... I think my response was "whatever do you mean?" and yet it was an obviousl conclusion I fear
spies4Masaki (1:54:18 AM): spies4Candy: spies4Johan: Yes, that would be important... I have given Zander an inkling of what may be to come, though, as I would like more than 1 witness should Gordy be suspicious of my claim to be the Priest
spies4Singe (1:54:57 AM): now we need to know if Zander told anyone
spies4Masaki (1:54:58 AM): Ok also weird
spies4Masaki (1:55:07 AM): why the hell did Johan leave Zander off the hitlist?
spies4Masaki (1:55:11 AM): He said go after Candy and Singe
spies4Masaki (1:55:12 AM): Not Zander
spies4Summer (1:55:18 AM): He probably forgot as well
spies4kip (1:55:20 AM): johan didnt spell it out to zander
spies4kip (1:55:31 AM): maybe zander didnt put two and two together?
spies4Summer (1:55:38 AM): spies4Zander: props to Johan for bringing him back
spies4Summer (1:55:45 AM): Seems like he figured it out
spies4Singe (1:55:45 AM): johan wasnt SUPER sharp
spies4Singe (1:55:56 AM): but he made a few trap attempts
spies4kip (1:55:59 AM): maybe johan didnt tell zander the details like he told candy and singe though
spies4kip (1:56:04 AM): the talking to dead players and everything
spies4Masaki (1:56:09 AM): I don't know - I'd have thought Johan would suspect anyone who knew about the role
spies4Summer (1:56:11 AM): Would a spy really need those details?
spies4Masaki (1:56:19 AM): Especially Zander as well since he had just found out
spies4Summer (1:56:35 AM): Well what day was exile 8?
spies4Summer (1:56:39 AM): Sunday
spies4Singe (1:56:40 AM): trial
spies4Summer (1:56:44 AM): It's Wednesday now
spies4Summer (1:56:51 AM): No the trial was episode 7
spies4Singe (1:56:55 AM): ah right
spies4Masaki (1:56:58 AM): Cain was ep 7
spies4Singe (1:56:58 AM): cain was 8
spies4Masaki (1:56:59 AM): 8
spies4Summer (1:57:09 AM): Yes
spies4Summer (1:57:16 AM): Cain was episode 8
spies4Summer (1:57:27 AM): Remember, he didn't get to vote n the trial
spies4Summer (1:57:32 AM): So his exile was after the trial
spies4Summer (1:57:51 AM): It's possible both Johan and Candy forgot Zander knew
spies4Masaki (1:58:22 AM): Personally I'd remember sometihng like that
spies4Masaki (1:58:25 AM): But I guess it is possible
spies4Summer (1:58:30 AM): Well Johan doesn't mention it in his PMs
spies4Summer (1:58:38 AM): And Candy says she "totally forgot"
spies4kip (1:59:05 AM): maybe johan had reason to think zander isnt a spy
spies4kip (1:59:18 AM): that we're unaware of
spies4Singe (1:59:27 AM): he would have told candy
spies4Singe (1:59:32 AM): he apparently trusted her a lot
spies4Masaki (1:59:39 AM): I could understand Candy forgetting
spies4Masaki (1:59:41 AM): Johan, however...
spies4kip (1:59:58 AM): i dont see candy forgetting
spies4kip (2:00:02 AM): candy and zander are tight
spies4kip (2:00:07 AM): according to zander anyway
spies4Masaki (2:00:13 AM): Easy way to find out would be to talk to Zander I guess
spies4kip (2:00:50 AM): brb i need a drink
spies4Summer (2:01:22 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (2:03:52 AM): back
spies4Masaki (2:04:01 AM): Ok so apparently
spies4Masaki (2:04:08 AM): Zander, Singe, Candy, and Johan knew of Johan's role
spies4kip (2:04:15 AM): and gordy
spies4Summer (2:04:22 AM): And possibly investigative spies
spies4Masaki (2:04:22 AM): Zander and Singe both learned of it between last imprisonment and this one.
spies4Masaki (2:04:42 AM): Johan was imprisoned
spies4kip (2:04:51 AM): assuming none of them were said investigative spies
spies4Masaki (2:05:00 AM): "I HAVE A ROLE!!!"
spies4Masaki (2:05:44 AM): We got any proof/indication of investigative spies other than other funky powers being seen?
spies4Masaki (2:05:59 AM): i mean role investigation
spies4kip (2:06:09 AM): just what ang said
spies4kip (2:07:12 AM): ive never been glad to have a friend cancel on me before
spies4kip (2:07:21 AM): cuz otherwise i wouldve missed this
spies4Singe (2:07:53 AM): do you guys think cain could have POSSIBLY had that role?
spies4Singe (2:08:01 AM): why didnt he claim if he did
spies4Singe (2:08:10 AM): he knew he was getting exiled
spies4Masaki (2:08:18 AM): Cain has Ralphitus
spies4kip (2:08:32 AM): no one wouldve bought it
spies4Singe (2:10:52 AM): abrams sucks
spies4kip (2:11:02 AM): hello left feild
spies4Summer (2:11:04 AM): Cain did not have a role. That much is obvious.
spies4kip (2:11:13 AM): and yeah i doubt cain had a role
spies4Singe (2:11:18 AM): why did thte cits seem to think he did?
spies4Singe (2:11:29 AM): it's in johan's messages
spies4Summer (2:11:38 AM): It was a spy message
spies4kip (2:11:43 AM): most likely
spies4Singe (2:11:48 AM): how do you know, summ?
spies4Singe (2:11:59 AM): why would the spies protect cain?
spies4Summer (2:12:08 AM): Reverse psychology
spies4Summer (2:12:13 AM): And I know because the message is ridiculous
spies4kip (2:12:16 AM): cause dissention
spies4Summer (2:12:23 AM): "Candy has an alliance with Naomi and Angelica"
spies4Summer (2:12:28 AM): Gordy says the LL loves Candy
spies4kip (2:12:42 AM): whats johan to do with that message anyway singe?
spies4kip (2:12:46 AM): go tell people?
spies4kip (2:12:52 AM): but not tell how he knows?
spies4kip (2:12:54 AM): its bogus
spies4Singe (2:12:58 AM): hmm?
spies4kip (2:13:08 AM): johan cant do anything with the cain message
spies4kip (2:13:14 AM): he cant tell people cain has a role
spies4kip (2:13:20 AM): without compromising himself
spies4kip (2:13:31 AM): its prolly a spy ploy to get johan to reveal himself
spies4Singe (2:13:34 AM): why tell johan anything then
spies4kip (2:13:43 AM): so get him to slip
spies4Singe (2:13:44 AM): he was there to hold info til the right time then spill it
spies4Singe (2:13:52 AM): or us e it leak it to tilt things over time
spies4Singe (2:16:47 AM): i'll tell you this much, i sure didnt trust Johan 100% today
spies4kip (2:17:26 AM): you can never trust 100%
spies4kip (2:17:33 AM): unless you get confirmation from sam
spies4Singe (2:17:45 AM): i mean, "priest"
spies4Singe (2:17:54 AM): we know both groups of spies are religious nuts
spies4Singe (2:18:12 AM): i was thinking Ortho spy role as a serious possibility
spies4Masaki (2:18:18 AM): Next game should incorporate the Westboro Baptist Church
spies4Singe (2:18:26 AM): lol
spies4kip (2:18:29 AM): lol
spies4Singe (2:18:39 AM): but why the fuck would an ortho risk telling me their role
spies4kip (2:18:55 AM): theres really no need for them to do so
spies4Singe (2:19:02 AM): and then the "mistake" message looked like a cit
spies4Singe (2:19:23 AM): "And in the mean time it gives us many more chances to see Singe in action and gather evidence, one way or the other."
spies4Singe (2:19:39 AM): "He says he wishes to talk to you however of my role, so I must tell you what I have told him now as he does not know my entire role and things could get slippery if he hears the wrong things:"
spies4Singe (2:19:52 AM): he sounded kinda Cittish
spies4Summer (2:26:10 AM): I don't get the Baptist church joke?
spies4Summer (2:26:27 AM): I do remember my first conversation with Martha where she asked me if I was a good Christian
spies4Zander (2:26:28 AM) has entered the room.
spies4Singe (2:26:55 AM): hey
spies4kip (2:27:08 AM): hi zander
spies4Summer (2:27:25 AM): Hi Zander
spies4Masaki (2:28:58 AM): yo
spies4Zander (2:29:07 AM): hi
spies4Zander (2:29:13 AM): i'm drunk so i dont even want to talk here
spies4kip (2:29:19 AM): uhh
spies4kip (2:29:24 AM): dont drive
spies4Summer (2:30:21 AM): Oh no
spies4kip (2:30:25 AM): and thats a shame, cuz we had some things to ask you zander
spies4Zander (2:31:10 AM): i dont drive i live in an apt and i drank there
spies4Zander (2:31:16 AM): I'm sure you did.
spies4kip (2:31:18 AM): alone?
spies4Zander (2:31:29 AM): no, with roommates. im not a n alcoholic you dick
spies4kip (2:31:40 AM): someones got a potty mouth
spies4Zander (2:31:45 AM): ask me
spies4Zander (2:31:49 AM): what you want to asm me
spies4kip (2:32:06 AM): did you kno of johans role before tonight?
spies4Zander (2:32:30 AM): he talked to me - all i knew was that he said gordy would be brought back and that was minutes before it happend
spies4kip (2:32:48 AM): no other details at all?
spies4Zander (2:33:09 AM): none
spies4Zander (2:33:22 AM): let me check if i have the chat but my computer is so poor i wouldnt be surprised if i dont
spies4kip (2:37:42 AM): anyone else?
spies4Masaki (2:37:47 AM): hmm?
spies4kip (2:37:55 AM): anything to ask zander?
spies4Singe (2:37:57 AM) has left the room.
spies4Zander (2:38:54 AM): i know what youre trying to dmasaki and its not going to work
spies4Masaki (2:39:05 AM): What?
spies4Zander (2:39:11 AM): youre a fucking spy and until you get edliminated by either orthos, trads or whatever the fuck spy youre NOT youre getting my exile vote
spies4Masaki (2:39:21 AM): umm ok?
spies4Zander (2:39:42 AM): yeah shut up, youre the worst spy there fever fucking was. try and pin johan shit on me again. you take eveyrtihngn you see and run with it
spies4Masaki (2:39:54 AM): dude
spies4Masaki (2:39:58 AM): Candy is the one who brought it up
spies4Masaki (2:40:02 AM): So blame her
spies4Zander (2:40:03 AM): AND YOU RAN WITH IT
spies4Masaki (2:40:10 AM): She told me to tell everyone, dumbass
spies4Zander (2:40:12 AM): WHY? CAUSE YOU KNOW I THINK YOURE A SPY
spies4Masaki (2:40:16 AM): good for you
spies4Summer (2:40:19 AM): Masaki that's not fair
spies4Masaki (2:40:31 AM): What's not fair?
spies4Zander (2:41:02 AM): this game has tgurned from something i loved to somethuing ifucking hate because all my friends and close trusted comapnions keep leaving and you asshoels keep thinking is tsm e
spies4Zander (2:41:04 AM): FUCK ALL OF YOU
spies4Zander (2:41:08 AM): i'm DONE with thise bullshit
spies4Masaki (2:41:22 AM): good
spies4Masaki (2:41:27 AM): you're not helping anyone
spies4Zander (2:42:37 AM): EXCEPT FOR ALL OF US CITIZEN IN THINKING YOURE APSY
spies4Masaki (2:42:58 AM): k
spies4Zander (2:43:52 AM): yeah fucking k
spies4Zander (2:44:06 AM): Masaki you think you're damn clever
spies4Masaki (2:44:21 AM): sometimes
spies4Zander (2:44:24 AM): I knew Johan told me he could bring someone back from the dead
spies4Zander (2:44:29 AM): why? cause he truste dme and i truste dhim
spies4Zander (2:44:31 AM): why? cause of Candy
spies4Zander (2:44:33 AM): we both trusted her
spies4Zander (2:44:39 AM): that's all he told me
spies4Masaki (2:44:47 AM): And your point is what?
spies4Zander (2:44:53 AM): AND YOURE' spy ass is on ethe line so you reach for anything you have to try and keep yourself safe
spies4Zander (2:44:56 AM): EXAMPLE: CAIN
spies4Zander (2:45:15 AM): i knew he wasn't guilty and he went and wasnt
spies4Zander (2:45:17 AM): SURPRISE
spies4Zander (2:45:20 AM): guess who the fuck i voted for
spies4Zander (2:45:21 AM): a spy
spies4Masaki (2:45:36 AM): and guess who your girlfriend candy voted for
spies4Masaki (2:45:38 AM): Cain
spies4Zander (2:45:40 AM): so go ahead and vote me on ridiculous evidence that you tried to set me up with in the first place, you traditionalist spy asshole
spies4kip (2:45:45 AM): pardon, but right now there are bigger fish to fry than masaki zander
spies4Zander (2:45:59 AM): and who the hell is that
spies4Masaki (2:46:00 AM): Oh I tried setting you up did I?
spies4Masaki (2:46:02 AM): Go ahead and explain how
spies4Masaki (2:46:07 AM): Go for it, whever everyone can hear you
spies4kip (2:46:15 AM): and the reason i asked you about the johan tihng was cuz he said he only told singe and candy
spies4Masaki (2:46:16 AM): I'm posting this, so be careful, boy.
spies4Summer (2:46:24 AM): "Boy"?
spies4kip (2:46:26 AM): but candy said you knew about it so, so i was wonder if johan tol dyou
spies4Zander (2:46:44 AM): SOMEHOW KYOU KNOEW ABOUT JOHAN AND FRAMED ME. I KNOW YOU DID. ITS HAT YOU VE BEENW AITING FOR FOR SINCE I MAEDE MY POST
spies4Masaki (2:46:45 AM): He's acting like a kid, so I'll treat him like one.
spies4Zander (2:46:54 AM): ALL YOU CAN DO IS FRAME OTHER PEOPLE MASAKI
spies4Zander (2:47:00 AM): IT WORKED WITH CAIN AND YOU WANT IT TO WORK WITH ME
spies4Zander (2:47:01 AM): BUT IT WONT
spies4Masaki (2:47:06 AM): How did I frame Cain?
spies4Zander (2:47:08 AM): CAUSE PEOPEL KNOW I M A CIT AND PEOPE MKNOW YOURE A SPY
spies4kip (2:47:09 AM): masaki isnt even involved here zander, calm down
spies4Masaki (2:47:10 AM): How did I frame you?
spies4Zander (2:47:17 AM): YOU ARE PUSHING AS HARD AS YOU CAN HERE MASAKI
spies4Masaki (2:47:22 AM): And how did I find out about Johan?
spies4Masaki (2:47:26 AM): How did I find out you knew about his role?
spies4Zander (2:47:30 AM): YOU WOULDNT EVEN BE INVOLVED INF I DIDNT MAKE A BURG POST
spies4Masaki (2:47:32 AM): You can't answer for anything
spies4Zander (2:47:36 AM): I DIDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT BEING AN ACTUAL ROLE
spies4kip (2:47:45 AM): thats what we wanted to know
spies4Zander (2:47:46 AM): FROM WHAT HE TOLD ME I THOGUTH IT WAS YOUR BEST FUCKING FRIEND THE FATEMAKER GIVING HIM SOMETHING
spies4Masaki (2:47:47 AM): Ok, so again, how did I frame you.
spies4kip (2:47:47 AM): thanks zander
spies4Zander (2:48:04 AM): FOR WHAT
spies4kip (2:48:14 AM): for answering my question
spies4Zander (2:48:15 AM): letting masaki be an asshole to me and tryot take suspicion off himself
spies4Zander (2:48:17 AM): whats your question
spies4kip (2:48:22 AM): on what you knew about johans role
spies4kip (2:48:26 AM): which wasnt any of the details
spies4kip (2:48:31 AM): like he told candy and singe
spies4kip (2:48:37 AM): you just knew the gordy part
spies4Zander (2:48:38 AM): I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT
spies4kip (2:48:40 AM): I KNOW
spies4Zander (2:48:50 AM): SO WHY DID YOU MAKE ME GET MAD -
spies4kip (2:48:52 AM): i was waiting for you to shut up to thank you
spies4Zander (2:48:54 AM): listen while im drunk i will say my peace
spies4kip (2:48:57 AM): i didnt say anything to you -.-
spies4Zander (2:49:00 AM): Masak i sia spy and im alsmost fully sure
spies4Zander (2:49:07 AM): and i wil l never stop until hes exiled
spies4kip (2:49:09 AM): ok just calm down
spies4Zander (2:49:12 AM): whether i be impriseoned or what
spies4Zander (2:49:23 AM): so trust me, i know that hes guilty of some sketchy bs going on here
spies4Zander (2:49:25 AM): dont listen to him
spies4Zander (2:49:25 AM): ever
spies4Zander (2:49:29 AM): ive been following him all game
spies4kip (2:49:37 AM): he had nothing to do with this zander
spies4Singe (2:49:43 AM) has entered the room.
spies4Zander (2:49:49 AM): then who did
spies4kip (2:49:51 AM): we were all here, talking about the shit that happened tonight
spies4kip (2:49:56 AM): and who knew about johans role
spies4kip (2:49:59 AM): and candy said you did
spies4kip (2:50:02 AM): so we wanted to ask
spies4Zander (2:50:06 AM): and you come to me when i knew the most limited amount of shit ever
spies4kip (2:50:06 AM): to see how much you knew
spies4Zander (2:50:07 AM): ?
spies4kip (2:50:17 AM): limited?
spies4Masaki (2:50:20 AM): We came to you to see if Candy's story checked out
spies4Masaki (2:50:33 AM): AND
spies4kip (2:50:33 AM): we just wanted to know what he told you
spies4Masaki (2:50:37 AM): To ask if you DID tell anyone else
spies4kip (2:50:40 AM): cuz johan claimed he only told two people
spies4Summer (2:50:51 AM): Three (Gordy)
spies4Zander (2:50:52 AM): HOLD ON I HAVE EVIDENCE
spies4kip (2:50:59 AM): well gordy doesnt count
spies4Zander (2:51:00 AM): I finally found it
spies4Zander (2:51:06 AM): brb i have to pee
spies4Summer (2:51:13 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (2:51:14 AM): dont break the seal ><
spies4kip (2:51:37 AM): sigh, now he'll be leaving every five minutes to pee
spies4Summer (2:51:51 AM): He's not a girl
spies4Zander (2:51:56 AM): Kip darling i broke th eseel 3 hours ago
spies4kip (2:52:18 AM): i thought you were peeing
spies4kip (2:52:26 AM): and definately not a girl
spies4Zander (2:52:40 AM): i'm not a girl and obvious as suchh i pee quick when drukn
spies4Masaki (2:52:47 AM): ok so where is the evidence
spies4Zander (2:53:00 AM): shut up spy, wait
spies4kip (2:53:05 AM): haha
spies4Summer (2:53:26 AM): *Giggle*

[Summer]

spies4Zander (2:53:28 AM): spies4Johan (10:49:20 PM): So Zander, before the exile truly begins, I have a question I would like to ask you.. if you do not mind of coursespies4Zander (10:49:57 PM): surely
spies4Zander (2:53:50 AM): spies4Johan (10:50:43 PM): How would you feel if we were able to talk to a previous citizen and gain information from them? Do you think that such a thing could be the turning point in this game?
spies4Zander (2:54:00 AM): spies4Zander (10:51:08 PM): I'd be for itspies4Zander (10:51:21 PM): although I think some people might think it was like cheating or something...
spies4Zander (2:54:16 AM): spies4Johan (10:52:31 PM): Well, if it were not cheating, then, it would be very fun, yes? Sometimes having a little fun is good for the Burg.
spies4Zander (2:54:24 AM): Just something to think about I can have idea of how this may happen which is all okay with Sam, but please speak nothing of this for now
spies4Zander (2:54:31 AM): spies4Zander (10:52:47 PM): Sure thingspies4Zander (10:52:52 PM): but yeah if you can do it I want to
spies4Zander (2:54:51 AM): spies4Zander (10:53:01 PM): It will probably help us a crapload
spies4Zander (2:55:05 AM): spies4Johan (10:54:02 PM): Well, then that I can help with Perhaps together we may change this game, if you are willing, although it will be risky for both of us in terms of spies imprisoning us,
spies4Zander (2:55:13 AM): but it may be that we may have a former citizen to talk to very soon, and you are one of 2 people I have a good feeling about enough to give heads up on it
spies4Zander (2:55:22 AM): spies4Zander (10:55:00 PM): Awesome! Thanks for letting me knowspies4Zander (10:55:11 PM): I'm guessing the other one is Candy
spies4Zander (2:55:28 AM): spies4Zander (10:55:31 PM): And I obviously don't care about sticking my neck out... I've already done it enough this week lol
spies4Zander (2:55:39 AM): spies4Johan (10:55:42 PM): Yes, of course, good perception on that and well, that may be for the best then
spies4Zander (2:55:45 AM): spies4Zander (10:56:17 PM): Well, she seems to trust both of us very much and even though I had you in my radar for a while, she seems very adamant about your innocence lol
spies4Zander (2:55:55 AM): spies4Zander (10:56:29 PM): Though she really won't come right out and say it a lot spies4Zander (10:56:38 PM): She keeps saying "There are people you don't know about that you can trust"
spies4Zander (2:56:01 AM): spies4Johan (10:57:05 PM): Yes.. she says very similar things to me also, actually, perhaps she referse to the both of us to each other? This could be possible
spies4Zander (2:56:14 AM): spies4Zander (10:57:15 PM): That's what I thought spies4Johan (11:01:04 PM): Yes, as did I we may only hope that good things are to come, then
spies4Zander (2:56:29 AM): spies4Johan (11:01:04 PM): Yes, as did I we may only hope that good things are to come, thenspies4Zander (11:01:26 PM): If we're the right people of course
spies4Singe (2:56:32 AM): a sledgehammer to the head is to come, johan
spies4Zander (2:56:38 AM): spies4Johan (11:04:08 PM): Well, with that we may only trust each other I guess, although trust in this game is one step short of insanityspies4Zander (11:26:56 PM): You picked Gordy?
spies4Zander (2:56:46 AM): spies4Johan (11:27:44 PM): Picked? Why whatever do you mean? Yes, well, it would make sense to bring back someone who has close ties with many different people, yes?spies4Zander (11:28:00 PM): Including revealed spies. I love it
spies4Zander (2:56:53 AM): spies4Zander (11:28:10 PM): I mean I would have loved to see Madison come back, but Gordy's just as good spies4Zander (11:28:24 PM): You picked someone active
spies4Zander (2:57:03 AM): spies4Johan (11:29:02 PM): Yes exactly And that was the plan... Someone active enough to make a big impact in a short time..spies4Zander (11:29:35 PM): Did Candy have anything to do with your decision?
spies4Zander (2:57:25 AM): spies4Johan (11:31:45 PM): We talked about it, yes I actually was considering bringing back Angelica just to really confuse the spies, but that would not have helped.
spies4Zander (2:57:35 AM): spies4Zander (11:32:09 PM): lolspies4Zander (11:32:14 PM): So you just got a gift or something?spies4Zander (11:32:46 PM): It's so random that you got to do it lol
spies4kip (2:57:45 AM): why the hell would johan say he only told candy and singe then.... no way he could forget an entire conversation like this
spies4Zander (2:57:51 AM): spies4Zander (11:32:09 PM): lolspies4Zander (11:32:14 PM): So you just got a gift or something?spies4Zander (11:32:46 PM): It's so random that you got to do it lol
spies4Zander (2:57:57 AM): Candy, and Gordy, at least not until after this episode, then I won't care as much, but as for now... It is my duty to learn as much as I can
spies4Zander (2:58:08 AM): Well kip darling, in a brief time out, there's no way i coudl MAKE SHIT UP LIKE THIS
spies4kip (2:58:25 AM): i didnt say you were
spies4Masaki (2:58:28 AM): yeah obviously
spies4Summer (2:58:31 AM): spies4Johan (11:31:45 PM): We talked about it, yes I actually was considering bringing back Angelica just to really confuse the spies, but that would not have helped.
spies4Zander (2:58:32 AM): spies4Zander (11:34:33 PM): No problem, I wouldn't want to put you in that risk anyway lol
spies4Zander (2:58:46 AM): spies4Johan (11:35:40 PM): I thank you for this Risk it not my strong point, at least not in this game. I try to lurk as it lets me learn things without people knowing that I learn them
spies4Zander (2:58:54 AM): spies4Zander (11:36:06 PM): It's respectable as long as you are active in your own wayspies4Zander (11:36:17 PM): I figure I'll get Imprisoned this round, but oh well
spies4Zander (2:59:03 AM): spies4Johan (11:37:07 PM): Yes, I like to think of it as such I call it... inactively active. And why do you believe this??spies4Zander (11:37:25 PM): Well everyone seems to think I'm right about Masaki, especially now lol
spies4Zander (2:59:09 AM): spies4Zander (11:37:51 PM): Whether it's his choice or other spies or whatever, I think I'll get Imprisoned to frame someone or just to get me out
spies4Zander (2:59:29 AM): spies4Johan (11:38:40 PM): Hmm, this could be, however I think they will only do this if it seems that Masaki is for certain the one to go, as they could then imprison you and let it be blamed all on him,
spies4Zander (2:59:35 AM): rather than someone else who might be linked to another spyspies4Zander (11:39:02 PM): That's what I'm kinda worried about
spies4Zander (2:59:59 AM): spies4Zander (11:39:21 PM): Hopefully I stay around though. I'm having fun and I really think I'm right on this one
spies4Zander (3:00:07 AM): spies4Johan (11:40:05 PM): Yes, I think you are also, Masaki has to be a spy.. Let us hope you remain to see him go, no?spies4Zander (11:46:26 PM): Absolutely.
spies4Singe (3:00:15 AM): lol
spies4Zander (3:00:20 AM): DID YOU READ THAT ASSHOLE? THE END OF THE CONFESATION. RECENTLY IMPRISONED JOHAN SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A SPY.
spies4Singe (3:00:21 AM): busted, Masaki
spies4Singe (3:00:32 AM): u r spy
spies4Zander (3:00:33 AM): spies4Johan signed off at 1:06:45 AM.spies4Johan signed on at 11:33:20 PM.
spies4Zander (3:00:38 AM): oh, also, that's the last part
spies4Zander (3:00:42 AM): but id dint think that was necessaryu
spies4Zander (3:00:47 AM): but if that helps masaki then there you go kthanks~!
spies4kip (3:00:54 AM): lol
spies4Zander (3:00:55 AM): fuckheaad
spies4Singe (3:00:57 AM): zander who are the orthos
spies4Zander (3:01:07 AM): i dont know i just know masaki is a spy
spies4Zander (3:01:15 AM): i'm thonking leon is one and the others i dunno
spies4Singe (3:01:26 AM): so masaki is the trad?
spies4Zander (3:01:29 AM): maybe damon, maybe kip, i thought psosibly johan before this round, maybe you, maybe faizah
spies4Masaki (3:01:32 AM): dude
spies4Masaki (3:01:35 AM): just post it in the burg
spies4Zander (3:01:40 AM): i truly think he is a spy and if he is i truly think he's the trad
spies4Zander (3:01:48 AM): BUT MASAKI YOU SAI DYOU WOULD POST EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE BRUG
spies4Singe (3:01:48 AM): so he killed johan
spies4Zander (3:01:50 AM): ARE YOU AFRAI DNOW
spies4Masaki (3:01:57 AM): not really
spies4Masaki (3:01:58 AM): heh
spies4Zander (3:01:59 AM): clearly you are
spies4Singe (3:02:01 AM): Masaki, why did you kill Johan
spies4Zander (3:02:01 AM): post it, bithc
spies4Masaki (3:02:07 AM): I will
spies4Zander (3:02:14 AM): so why tell me to
spies4Masaki (3:02:20 AM): i said the conversation
spies4Zander (3:02:20 AM): cause you know its against sam's rules
spies4kip (3:02:23 AM): why would masaki want to kill johan?
spies4Masaki (3:02:41 AM): It's against the rules to post long conversations with eliminated spies
spies4Zander (3:02:43 AM): masaki probably knew at lest that johan trusted candy
spies4Masaki (3:02:44 AM): not citizns
spies4Zander (3:02:57 AM): I am BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that candy is cit
spies4Zander (3:03:13 AM): i am 96% SURE masaki si a spy
spies4Zander (3:03:18 AM): ignore me againa dn exile a citizen again
spies4Zander (3:03:28 AM): clearly nobody cares anymore
spies4Singe (3:03:28 AM): and bunni, tight?
spies4Singe (3:03:35 AM): masaki, bunni, leon?
spies4Zander (3:03:35 AM): i dont trust bunni, but im not sure on her
spies4Singe (3:03:36 AM): ok
spies4Zander (3:03:42 AM): masaki damon and leon are my top three right now
spies4Masaki (3:03:48 AM): kk
spies4Singe (3:04:06 AM): i am amazed that you trust candy so much
spies4Zander (3:04:13 AM): singe if you are that upset that i dislike bunni, then get over it
spies4Zander (3:04:16 AM): i dont think shes helpful
spies4Summer (3:04:21 AM): You're obsessed, Singe. It's all you talk about anymore.
spies4Zander (3:04:25 AM): i think with our "evidence" against Damon its that same that was about bunni
spies4Singe (3:04:25 AM): what
spies4Zander (3:04:28 AM): you are a hypocrite
spies4Zander (3:04:30 AM): you are zealous
spies4Zander (3:04:36 AM): you dont care and you dont analyze
spies4Masaki (3:04:40 AM): wtf?
spies4Masaki (3:04:45 AM): Singe doesn't analyze?
spies4Masaki (3:04:47 AM): Are you insane?
spies4Singe (3:04:50 AM): damon said the same thing
spies4Zander (3:04:50 AM): clearly not about bunni
spies4Zander (3:04:53 AM): and shut the fuck up spy
spies4Zander (3:04:55 AM): nobody said you could talk
spies4Masaki (3:05:00 AM): I invited you in here.
spies4Singe (3:05:10 AM): people trust candy too mcuh
spies4Zander (3:05:16 AM): and i just outed you as a spy by both my words and johans
spies4Singe (3:05:20 AM): dont drink the koolaid
spies4Zander (3:05:21 AM): I TRUST CANDY CAUSE I HAVE DAMN GOOD REASON TO
spies4Masaki (3:05:23 AM): Actually
spies4Masaki (3:05:27 AM): Johan said he trusted me before he left
spies4Zander (3:05:29 AM): I'M NOT DRINKING KOOLAID, I'M USING MY FUCKING BRAIN
spies4Zander (3:05:40 AM): start trying
spies4Singe (3:05:46 AM): johan trusted candy
spies4Zander (3:05:48 AM): start posting thoughts publically, Spy Masaki
spies4Singe (3:05:48 AM): and he's dead
spies4Zander (3:06:06 AM): And singe go tell that to your darling Bunni
spies4Zander (3:06:10 AM): who has yet to post her thoughts
spies4Zander (3:06:12 AM): cause she never will
spies4Singe (3:06:13 AM): bunni has a nice tiara
spies4Zander (3:06:15 AM): cause she's a coaster
spies4Zander (3:06:25 AM): bunni has a nice way of not doing annytihng and making it to the dngeagame
spies4Singe (3:06:38 AM): we get two exiles
spies4Zander (3:06:42 AM): i dar eyou all to exile / imprison me. and when we lose i will laugh in your face
spies4Singe (3:06:49 AM): who are everyone's top two right now
spies4Zander (3:06:51 AM): ive done nothing but help
spies4Singe (3:06:58 AM): zander you've gottne like 1 vote
spies4Singe (3:07:01 AM): this entire game
spies4Singe (3:07:08 AM): why are you so retardedly defensive
spies4Zander (3:07:10 AM): I JUST SAID I DARE YOU. THATS ALL
spies4Singe (3:07:18 AM): are you the mirrorman?
spies4Masaki (3:07:23 AM): seriously what the fuck is your problem?
spies4Zander (3:07:25 AM): I'm not retardedly defensive. you all attacked me tonight and proved hwy i shoudlnt have been
spies4Masaki (3:07:26 AM): calm the hell down
spies4Masaki (3:07:30 AM): jesus christ
spies4Zander (3:07:34 AM): shut up spy
spies4Zander (3:07:36 AM): nobody was talking to you
spies4Masaki (3:07:41 AM): I'm talking to you, dickwad.
spies4Summer (3:07:44 AM): Hey
spies4Summer (3:07:46 AM): Lady present
spies4Masaki (3:07:55 AM): Get on his case for a change.
spies4Zander (3:07:55 AM): i dont care what anyone else thinks
spies4Zander (3:07:57 AM): I have a trust group
spies4Zander (3:08:01 AM): I know at least one person who is a spy
spies4Zander (3:08:09 AM): and when I start following the rest of you as closely as i've trailed masaki
spies4Zander (3:08:11 AM): just fucking wait
spies4Masaki (3:08:14 AM): Ok Zander, yet you can't prove a god damn thing.
spies4Zander (3:08:17 AM): DEUCES, jerks
spies4Singe (3:08:26 AM): if you guys are a scumpair
spies4Singe (3:08:30 AM): *applause*
spies4Zander (3:08:31 AM): I've proved everything I need to.
spies4Zander (3:08:38 AM): And if you don't get exiled, I will piss on your grave when you do
spies4Zander (3:08:42 AM) has left the room.
spies4Masaki (3:08:50 AM): Wow
spies4Masaki (3:08:51 AM): Just wow.
spies4Singe (3:08:51 AM): lol
spies4kip (3:08:53 AM): that was eventful
spies4Masaki (3:08:57 AM): Summer what the hell?
spies4Summer (3:08:59 AM): Oh right Singe. Zander and Masaki planned on drunk Zander havng a fake fight with Masaki.
spies4Masaki (3:09:02 AM): Why do you keep siding with him!!!
spies4kip (3:09:11 AM): maybe its fake drunk zander
spies4Summer (3:09:16 AM): I am not. I just don't like the word "dickwad".
spies4Masaki (3:09:20 AM):
spies4Masaki (3:09:25 AM): You got on my case 3 times
spies4Masaki (3:09:29 AM): And he was WAY out of line there
spies4kip (3:09:42 AM): what was unfair about what masaki said to zander?
spies4Summer (3:10:01 AM): He twisted it around
spies4Masaki (3:10:02 AM): There is no way in hell that Zander is being played by the guy I think he is
spies4Masaki (3:10:14 AM): I didn't twist anything
spies4Masaki (3:10:33 AM): Candy told me the things she wanted me to post
spies4Masaki (3:10:36 AM): And that was one of them
spies4kip (3:11:06 AM): brb time to "break the seal"
spies4Summer (3:11:40 AM): What does that mean?
spies4kip (3:12:34 AM): when you drink
spies4kip (3:12:40 AM): it makes you want to go to the bathroom
spies4kip (3:12:52 AM): but as soon as you do, you start having to go really frequently
spies4kip (3:13:22 AM): so by holding off, you dont have to run every 15 minutes, but as soon as you "break the sea;" oh well
spies4kip (3:13:29 AM): that was so weird explaining that...
spies4Summer (3:13:39 AM): Thank you.
spies4kip (3:13:55 AM): sarcasm?
spies4Summer (3:14:05 AM): No, thank you for answering my question.
spies4kip (3:14:13 AM): oh, well you're welcome
spies4kip (3:14:54 AM): so... johan posts that one of either candy or singe is a spy
spies4kip (3:14:55 AM): but not zander
spies4kip (3:14:59 AM): why?
spies4Summer (3:15:04 AM): Well he's a citizen
spies4Summer (3:15:07 AM): He has no reason to lie
spies4Summer (3:15:17 AM): So either it was intentional or he forgot
spies4Masaki (3:15:17 AM): Ok
spies4Masaki (3:15:19 AM): Blocked Zander
spies4Masaki (3:15:20 AM):
spies4kip (3:15:24 AM): he must have had a reason to trust zander
spies4kip (3:15:28 AM): or he forgot
spies4Masaki (3:15:31 AM): It takes a lot to get me to block someone
spies4kip (3:15:37 AM): but how can you forget a convo like that
spies4Summer (3:15:44 AM): Remember when Cain blocked Candy for a week?
spies4kip (3:15:53 AM): no
spies4Summer (3:16:05 AM): It was amusing.
spies4kip (3:16:19 AM): i doubt johan forgot

[Summer]

spies4Zander (3:16:27 AM) has entered the room.
spies4Summer (3:16:29 AM): All right
spies4kip (3:16:29 AM): he had to have had a reason to trust zander
spies4Zander (3:16:30 AM): yeah surprise spy masaki
spies4Zander (3:16:38 AM): i found an ivnite thing
spies4Zander (3:16:45 AM): masaki refused to invite me so ic ouldnt further incriminate him
spies4Masaki (3:17:01 AM): hahaha
spies4Singe (3:17:12 AM): zander please touch the tip of your nose with your finger
spies4Zander (3:17:14 AM): I already posted the conversation itn this chat. Johan adn i trusted each other caue of candy
spies4Zander (3:17:19 AM): check, singe
spies4Masaki (3:17:46 AM): Candy's trying to come
spies4kip (3:17:52 AM): no i meant as to why johan left your name off the list of people that are possible spies cuz he told them
spies4kip (3:18:03 AM): johan said it was prolly singe, or candy who were spies
spies4Zander (3:18:03 AM): i dont car heow drunk you thikn i am, i'm not stupid. masaki's a spy. there's a POWERFUL chance leon and damon are too. and if you ignore me again then go ahead nad mis-exile again, i don't care anymoe cause clearly some of you
spies4Zander (3:18:04 AM): dont care
spies4kip (3:18:11 AM): cuz they knew of his role
spies4kip (3:18:14 AM): but so did you
spies4Zander (3:18:14 AM): cause johan never gave me details
spies4Zander (3:18:20 AM): i thought johan had a gift
spies4kip (3:18:21 AM): alright
spies4Singe (3:18:23 AM): johan tried to trap candy first apparently
spies4Zander (3:18:24 AM): didnt you just read what i posted?
spies4kip (3:18:29 AM): i did read
spies4Zander (3:18:36 AM): and somehow you're still confused
spies4Zander (3:18:40 AM): wake up and smell teh cbeans kip
spies4kip (3:18:47 AM): im not asleep
spies4Singe (3:18:47 AM): johan told three people about his role
spies4Singe (3:18:56 AM): me and candy oct 29th
spies4Singe (3:19:01 AM): zander nov 10thish
spies4Singe (3:19:17 AM): someone killed johan cause of his role
spies4Singe (3:19:21 AM): 95% certain
spies4Zander (3:19:26 AM): So I'M a traditionalist. After poitnoing out that Masaki thought Cain was, basically the most incriminating thing agains tmyself I could do. Mmmk, thanks Singe.
spies4kip (3:19:27 AM): agreed
spies4kip (3:19:32 AM): why else kill johan
spies4Zander (3:19:56 AM): Cause he would never be eliminated? Probalby same idea as was with Adelaide?
spies4kip (3:20:03 AM): adelaide had a role too
spies4Summer (3:20:08 AM): But here
spies4Zander (3:20:09 AM): Am I the only person able to think about things in a versatile way
spies4Summer (3:20:12 AM): Here's the part that confuses me
spies4Summer (3:20:15 AM): There's 1 Traditionalist spy
spies4kip (3:20:21 AM): the last three imprisonments were for roles
spies4Summer (3:20:22 AM): Survival is top priority
spies4kip (3:20:27 AM): the spies didnt just GET LUCKY zander
spies4kip (3:20:29 AM): they knew
spies4Summer (3:20:33 AM): And the Traditionalist chose to remove .... someone who could receive messages?
spies4Singe (3:20:39 AM): right
spies4Summer (3:20:44 AM): Give me a berak
spies4Zander (3:20:47 AM): If I were a spy I would NEVER fucking throw myself out there in one or two weeks before basically doing something to frame myself too
spies4Summer (3:20:48 AM): break
spies4Singe (3:20:48 AM): that is verbatim candy's argument
spies4Singe (3:20:51 AM): summer
spies4kip (3:20:58 AM): thats prolly why johan went after gordy and adelaide
spies4Summer (3:21:04 AM): Well Gordy's role was a threat
spies4Summer (3:21:06 AM): He said investigations
spies4Masaki (3:21:10 AM): ok guys im out for the night
spies4kip (3:21:10 AM): they obviously dont kno who the FM is
spies4Masaki (3:21:12 AM): <3 Zander
spies4kip (3:21:15 AM): or theyd have went before
spies4Masaki (3:21:17 AM): I'll post your insanity tomorrow
spies4Zander (3:21:19 AM): This argument is honestly stupid - do you all genuinely suspect me for Johan leaving
spies4kip (3:21:24 AM): no i dont
spies4Zander (3:21:24 AM): I hope you do - it only incriminates you more
spies4Summer (3:21:25 AM): But if you know Johan's role isn't the fatemaker, why imprison Johan?
spies4Masaki (3:21:33 AM): And no dumbass we don't suspect you
spies4Masaki (3:21:35 AM): Well
spies4Summer (3:21:35 AM): Why not take your chances elsewhere?
spies4Masaki (3:21:38 AM): Maybe some
spies4Masaki (3:21:38 AM):
spies4Masaki (3:21:40 AM) has left the room.
spies4Zander (3:21:41 AM): Of course you woudl Masaki
spies4Zander (3:21:45 AM): andything to save yourself
spies4kip (3:21:54 AM): risk johan getting a good message from the cits?
spies4Zander (3:21:55 AM): Gordy teold me you wanted to blinsdide me or candy
spies4Zander (3:21:57 AM): how convenient
spies4Singe (3:22:00 AM): the fatemaker isnt that important is it?
spies4Zander (3:22:10 AM): accroding to gordy, johan couldnt tell who the msesages aerwe form
spies4kip (3:22:11 AM): depends what the FM has to give
spies4Zander (3:22:12 AM): but gordy could
spies4kip (3:22:22 AM): johan can guess though
spies4kip (3:22:25 AM): and if he guesses right
spies4kip (3:22:28 AM): bad day spies
spies4kip (3:22:35 AM): thats why the did him after gordy and ade
spies4Zander (3:22:38 AM): guesses are not fact. guesses are useless
spies4kip (3:22:40 AM): they dont kno the FM yet
spies4Summer (3:22:45 AM): His guesses are less threatening than nearly anyone else's guess
spies4Zander (3:22:47 AM): almost an OVERHWLEMING AMOUNT of you guessed Cain was a spy
spies4Zander (3:22:48 AM): surprise
spies4Summer (3:22:52 AM): Johan didn't have a lot of influence in this game
spies4Singe (3:22:54 AM): not me
spies4Zander (3:22:57 AM): not me
spies4kip (3:22:59 AM): i trusted johan
spies4Zander (3:23:03 AM): I trusted johan
spies4kip (3:23:05 AM): not 100%
spies4Zander (3:23:10 AM): most ly cause of candy, but i trusted him
spies4kip (3:23:11 AM): but more than others
spies4Zander (3:23:13 AM): before then i ssupected him
spies4Summer (3:23:15 AM): We've all named him as a lurker and an inactive
spies4Singe (3:23:23 AM): i had NO opinion of johan til he told me his role
spies4Summer (3:23:31 AM): It signifies to me that whoever the Traditionalist is:
spies4Summer (3:23:36 AM): 1) They're working with the Orthodoxy spies
spies4Summer (3:23:40 AM): 2) They're playing a horrible game
spies4kip (3:23:42 AM): everything about johan told me citizen
spies4Singe (3:23:46 AM): yeah they are
spies4Zander (3:23:49 AM): M.A.S.A.K.I
spies4Zander (3:23:51 AM): IS A TRADITIONALIST
spies4kip (3:23:54 AM): agreed on both counts summer
spies4Singe (3:23:55 AM): the orthos totally convinced the trad to kill johan
spies4kip (3:24:00 AM): yeah
spies4kip (3:24:09 AM): it gets rid of a role
spies4Singe (3:24:13 AM): but that implies they told them before today
spies4kip (3:24:17 AM): gets rid of a useless role but a tole
spies4Summer (3:24:19 AM): But it doesn't really help the Traditionalist go further in the game
spies4Zander (3:24:19 AM): Listen: If you look at even the evidence I posted about Masaki, one thing points to him not playing him a good game as a trad.... and if he's an ortho then I suck but whatever
spies4kip (3:24:27 AM): possilbly wastes the trads imp
spies4Zander (3:24:29 AM): He AND Naomi were the two to tear into Angelica's claims
spies4Zander (3:24:40 AM): to lose credibility to Agnelica
spies4Zander (3:24:49 AM): iv ealreayd looked back at the burg and this is fact
spies4Zander (3:24:53 AM): Candy was there too
spies4Zander (3:24:58 AM): and helped pull it apaprt
spies4Singe (3:25:01 AM): yeah that;s anti-ortho points for masaki
spies4Zander (3:25:03 AM): when Angelica called Naomi out
spies4Zander (3:25:14 AM): WHY would Masaki rush to Naomis adi
spies4Zander (3:25:26 AM): it's not anit-ortho points for masaki, it's trad-points for masaki
spies4Singe (3:25:38 AM): did he really rush to naomi's aid?
spies4kip (3:25:40 AM): why would the trads let masaki do it
spies4kip (3:25:44 AM): bev didnt
spies4kip (3:25:45 AM): emma didnt
spies4Summer (3:25:47 AM): Yes she did
spies4kip (3:25:55 AM): pardon, i was not her
spies4Zander (3:25:56 AM): masaki was not attacking angelica's logic because the REST OF US sat there going "well maybe she could help us"
spies4kip (3:26:02 AM): so my memory is off a bit
spies4Summer (3:26:10 AM): Beverly didn't rush to Naomi's aid in the thread, but she rushed to Naomi's aid elsewhere
spies4Zander (3:26:18 AM): why attakc soemone you know is a spy fighting spies if you think they have evidence or soething
spies4Zander (3:26:43 AM): REASON #1, BOB BARKER, BECUASE THEY WILL REVEAL STUFF ABOUT OTHER SPIES IF THEY HAVE IT, JUST FOR SELF-PERSEVATION WHICH IS WHAT HALF YOU JERK SSARE ODING RIGH TNOW
spies4Zander (3:26:43 AM): !
spies4Singe (3:27:19 AM): <-- jerk
spies4kip (3:27:24 AM): ^
spies4Zander (3:27:25 AM): So if you're a taridiontlaist spy who knows Agnelica is a spy (clearly ont he other team), and i've already pointed this out before in my masaki thread, then of course you do your best to prove angelica has no credibility
spies4Zander (3:27:33 AM): and to keep your fellow spies around
spies4Singe (3:27:43 AM): i would bury naomi
spies4Singe (3:27:47 AM): if i was a trad
spies4kip (3:27:50 AM): as would i
spies4Singe (3:27:52 AM): right after burying ang
spies4kip (3:27:54 AM): distance myself
spies4Summer (3:27:55 AM): I wouldn't
spies4Summer (3:28:00 AM): But I'm that kind of player
spies4Zander (3:28:05 AM): You cannot play psychology
spies4kip (3:28:08 AM): i wouldnt go all out
spies4kip (3:28:13 AM): but i wouldnt support her
spies4Zander (3:28:18 AM): reverse, inverse, double-back-around, THERE IS NO WAY TO ANALYZE THIS GAME
spies4Zander (3:28:23 AM): been there done that, wise up
spies4Summer (3:28:25 AM): Zander's right.
spies4Zander (3:28:32 AM): people will imprison to frame and unframe themselves
spies4Zander (3:28:39 AM): people will exile to frame and unframe themselves
spies4Zander (3:28:45 AM): people will set others upt ot clear themselve
spies4Zander (3:28:49 AM): everything is fair game
spies4Zander (3:28:57 AM): you post conversations and interactions and that's the BEST YOU CAN DO
spies4Singe (3:29:00 AM): after gordy and 2 exiles
spies4Singe (3:29:02 AM): how many remain
spies4Singe (3:29:04 AM): 11?
spies4kip (3:29:05 AM): 10
spies4Zander (3:29:07 AM): and when you post your feelings that is the BESTwe have to work with
spies4Singe (3:29:33 AM): we have to be very open about our votes for these exiles
spies4Singe (3:29:43 AM): ahead of time
spies4Zander (3:29:43 AM): analyzing motives is useless. Spies are smarter than that. They will rip you up and spit you out if all you care about is PSYCHOLOGY
spies4Summer (3:29:55 AM): That was Naomi's point as well
spies4Zander (3:30:01 AM): Well I'm voting Masaki. Who is a spy. Big surprise.
spies4Singe (3:30:12 AM): i sure hope you're a cop zander
spies4kip (3:30:23 AM): for all the reasons youve told us here and the burg, we know
spies4Zander (3:30:33 AM): and you still don't believe me
spies4Zander (3:30:36 AM): and you still won't vote masaki
spies4Singe (3:30:40 AM): it's not a believe thing
spies4Singe (3:30:47 AM): it's a proof thing
spies4Zander (3:30:47 AM): so kip, my brethren who has too long of hair, who ARE you voting for
spies4kip (3:30:49 AM): i dont expect anything less then to vote for your suspects
spies4Summer (3:30:51 AM): It's an ego thing.
spies4kip (3:30:53 AM): leon at the moment
spies4Singe (3:31:08 AM): summer, your ego says dont vote masaki?
spies4Zander (3:31:09 AM): then do it and if you're right which again i think ou're not, enjoy
spies4kip (3:31:21 AM): but im reserving judgement to hear what else gordy has to say
spies4Summer (3:31:27 AM): My ego says that I don't lose anything by voting with a theory that isn't mine
spies4Zander (3:31:36 AM): and when i vote masaki, and i am proven to be right that he is a spy, iw ill rejoice and you will slap yourselves. I think masaki is the trad
spies4Singe (3:31:52 AM): tell me this
spies4Zander (3:31:59 AM): he i smy #1 and has been for long
spies4Singe (3:32:03 AM): who has come up with a compelling argument about who the orthos are
spies4Zander (3:32:05 AM): i will not vote for someone who is not my 31 suspect
spies4Zander (3:32:12 AM): #1
spies4kip (3:32:12 AM): no one singe
spies4Zander (3:32:19 AM): fact
spies4Singe (3:32:19 AM): has anyone made a compelling case for orthos at all?
spies4Zander (3:32:37 AM): Earlier today I told someon cant remember who that i thougth faizah might be a spy, prbobably ortho
spies4Singe (3:32:38 AM): i thought MAYBE leon+candy for a singlular reason
spies4Singe (3:32:47 AM): their reaction to my fake inv
spies4Singe (3:33:00 AM): but that's weak sauce
spies4Zander (3:33:00 AM): voting history shows shse oted with angelica the whole time i think i could be wrong though
spies4Summer (3:33:09 AM): Beverly's reaction was pretty remarkable
spies4Singe (3:33:12 AM): yeah
spies4kip (3:33:21 AM): voting histor y shows leon voted with bev everytime
spies4kip (3:33:30 AM): except in exile 1 when he wasnt allowed too
spies4kip (3:33:34 AM): so he voted with naomi
spies4kip (3:33:43 AM): we can go back and forth on voting history all night
spies4kip (3:33:55 AM): i analyzed it back and forth, front and back
spies4Zander (3:34:03 AM): it's more useful than PSYCHOLOGICAL ANALYZARION
spies4Zander (3:34:05 AM): *tion
spies4kip (3:34:09 AM): agreed
spies4Singe (3:34:15 AM): i think tone is the way to go
spies4Singe (3:34:18 AM): to catch spies
spies4kip (3:34:20 AM): but if faizahs an ortho for that reason, leon is the trad
spies4Singe (3:34:33 AM): some people just sound sincere
spies4Zander (3:34:41 AM): tone? lol so clearly im oteither super spy or super citzen? cause iyell when im drunk
spies4kip (3:34:43 AM): and zander, would it shock you to hear leon gave me that exact reason on why faizah is an ortho
spies4Singe (3:34:50 AM): when you actually talk zander
spies4kip (3:34:50 AM): he voting with ang
spies4Singe (3:34:56 AM): i get a cit vibe off you
spies4kip (3:35:16 AM): im fairly certain zander is a cit
spies4Zander (3:35:18 AM): it actually does considering id ont trust him
spies4kip (3:35:21 AM): for reasons ive told him
spies4Zander (3:35:33 AM): he voted with me for masaki. why
spies4Singe (3:35:40 AM): top two exile choices for tomorrow, everyone?
spies4kip (3:35:46 AM): leon couldnt vote cain
spies4Zander (3:35:47 AM): why is he badneagongin on soemoen who gets 2 votes (not counting the random accusation that I asked singe about)
spies4Singe (3:35:52 AM): 1) Leon 2) Damon
spies4Zander (3:35:52 AM): hyeah so why masaki?
spies4Summer (3:35:53 AM): Masaki, Leon
spies4kip (3:35:57 AM): so he voted masaki cuz he agrees with you 100%
spies4Zander (3:36:00 AM): 1. Masaki, 2. Leon
spies4kip (3:36:05 AM): then he skewed every fact you posted back to me
spies4Zander (3:36:09 AM): well why does he agree with me 100%?
spies4Singe (3:36:10 AM): why masaki, summer?
spies4kip (3:36:12 AM): mixing up details and what not
spies4Zander (3:36:15 AM): He IMEd me and was like "PERFECT"
spies4Zander (3:36:18 AM): but I don't get why
spies4kip (3:36:25 AM): lemme find it
spies4Zander (3:36:36 AM): that's honestly one of the reasons why I suspect him
spies4Zander (3:36:39 AM): super-huge bandwagoning
spies4Summer (3:36:50 AM): I consider Masaki to be the anti-bandwagoner
spies4Zander (3:36:52 AM): if in the event that I'm wrong about Masaki being the TRAD., then it's Leon
spies4Summer (3:36:53 AM): Actually
spies4Zander (3:36:58 AM): but I'm honestly fairly sure both are spies
spies4Zander (3:37:07 AM): That's false summer
spies4Summer (3:37:11 AM): I think he made a big show with his votes in rounds 1, 2, and 3
spies4Zander (3:37:12 AM): he advocates against bandwagons but still does them
spies4Zander (3:37:21 AM): his actions and his claims are TOTALLY different
spies4Zander (3:37:38 AM): he claims to hold close to his convictions but has fully flipped strategies more than twice this game
spies4Zander (3:37:51 AM): (is it 3:36am for anyone ELSE HERE? didn't think so...)
spies4kip (3:37:54 AM): spies4Leon (9:20:44 PM): hmm, well idk
spies4Leon (9:20:50 PM): I just listened to what Zander said
spies4Zander (3:38:05 AM): worst idea ever
spies4kip (3:38:07 AM): spies4kip (9:17:50 PM): any reason why masaki?
spies4Leon (9:18:22 PM): becuz i cant vote Cain
spies4kip (9:18:37 PM): oh, families
spies4Leon (9:18:35 PM): and Zander's case against him is extremly 100% right
spies4Zander (3:38:19 AM): i think i'm right and if i'm not you can' tknow either. why follow someone 100%
spies4kip (3:38:23 AM): basically all he said
spies4Zander (3:38:23 AM): 100%s are STPID
spies4Zander (3:38:34 AM): unless you have a role and KNOW
spies4kip (3:38:42 AM): spies4kip (9:21:18 PM): zander makes some good points, but i think he's bought into the idea that theres no other alternative
spies4kip (9:21:26 PM): i hope hes right, i really do
spies4kip (9:21:38 PM): but we wont know until he goes
spies4kip (3:38:56 AM): spies4Leon (9:21:46 PM): yeah
spies4kip (9:21:53 PM): and i think cain is more suspicious

spies4kip (3:38:57 AM): spies4kip (9:22:00 PM): which is why im voting for him
spies4Leon (9:22:29 PM): yeah, they're both probably spies
spies4Leon (9:22:31 PM): do idc which goes
spies4Zander (3:39:06 AM): *sigh*
spies4Zander (3:39:12 AM): and I believe I told you i thought it was a setup
spies4Zander (3:39:18 AM): although i told that to almost everyone
spies4Zander (3:39:22 AM): and almost everyone still voted cain
spies4Zander (3:39:29 AM): which is why i'm still skeptical about a lot of you
spies4kip (3:39:38 AM): be skeptical
spies4kip (3:39:45 AM): otherwise you arent zander
spies4Zander (3:39:48 AM): when in fact if people had listened to me i'd be sure about a lot of people - but again, voting history is never for certain
spies4Summer (3:39:53 AM): I love how Leon ....
spies4Zander (3:39:59 AM): Everyone loves me, Kip
spies4Zander (3:40:00 AM): face it
spies4Summer (3:40:00 AM): Doesn't say why he thinks it's 100% right
spies4Zander (3:40:01 AM): you love me
spies4Summer (3:40:05 AM): I don't even think he read it, to be honest
spies4Zander (3:40:09 AM): i'm a self-righteous prick that hates everyone here, but you love me
spies4kip (3:40:27 AM): spies4Leon (9:18:53 PM): and Masaki went into uber-defense mode as soon as Zander posted his thing
spies4Zander (3:40:32 AM): FACT.
spies4Zander (3:40:44 AM): Masaki was not online as much as he has been the past week trhoughtout the entire GAME
spies4Summer (3:40:47 AM): No, think about this.
spies4Zander (3:40:51 AM): did anyone else notice that?
spies4Summer (3:41:04 AM): I haven't noticed that, no
spies4Zander (3:41:07 AM): Masaki also failed to defend some things - and instead focused on specifics

[Summer]

spies4kip (3:41:09 AM): spies4Leon (9:19:10 PM): Last round
spies4Leon (9:19:24 PM): "We cant get rid of Cain, he's probably a cit"
spies4kip (3:41:10 AM): spies4Leon (9:19:31 PM): This round now that he's a target
spies4Leon (9:19:40 PM): "CAIN'S A SPY, WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HIM, NOW!"
spies4kip (3:41:16 AM): spies4kip (9:19:54 PM): masaki said cain was a cit?
spies4Leon (9:20:09 PM): thats what Zander said
spies4Zander (3:41:23 AM): lmfao
spies4kip (3:41:25 AM): spies4Leon (9:20:25 PM): After I posted my 2 cents in Zander's thread, Masaki instantly tried to persuade me to vote Cain
spies4kip (9:20:34 PM): i thought masaki was the one with the idea of keeping cain to hunt orthos
spies4kip (3:41:31 AM): spies4kip (9:20:40 PM): cuz he was the trad
spies4Leon (9:20:44 PM): hmm, well idk
spies4Leon (9:20:50 PM): I just listened to what Zander said
spies4Singe (3:41:38 AM): let's gas Leon
spies4Singe (3:41:44 AM): but get EVERYONE on the record first
spies4Zander (3:41:55 AM): I'm voting Masaki. Leon could be stupid, but Masaki isn't. Masaki's a spy.
spies4Singe (3:41:59 AM): summer posted the case
spies4Singe (3:42:03 AM): it's above average
spies4Zander (3:42:12 AM): I've seen dumb citizens before. Masaki's not dumb. And masaki's not a citizen.
spies4Singe (3:42:14 AM): i dont have cold feet about it like i did with cain
spies4kip (3:42:39 AM): spies4Leon (10:40:56 PM): damn
spies4Leon (10:41:00 PM): after I thought about it
spies4Leon (10:41:02 PM): I figured
spies4kip (10:41:09 PM): adelaide though!?
spies4kip (3:42:39 AM): spies4Leon (10:41:17 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (10:41:22 PM): she had her suspicions
spies4Leon (10:41:32 PM): and every once in a while
spies4Leon (10:41:33 PM): were right
spies4kip (3:42:45 AM): spies4kip (10:41:42 PM): which seemed to be directed soley at the trads though
spies4Leon (10:41:45 PM): yeah
spies4Leon (10:41:53 PM): but who knows
spies4Leon signed off at 10:45:25 PM.
spies4Summer (3:43:10 AM): Does he ever have anything insightful to offer on anything?
spies4Singe (3:43:13 AM): no
spies4kip (3:43:14 AM): never
spies4Zander (3:44:12 AM): *Sigh*
spies4Zander (3:44:15 AM): i dont know what more i can do
spies4Zander (3:44:44 AM): it will apparently be weeks until masaki goes. yes i suspect leon but masaki remains my #1 and all i can do until he goes is point out how you are falling for EASIER targets every time
spies4kip (3:44:52 AM): spies4Leon (9:30:25 PM): was it you or Kip v1.0 who voted for me?
spies4kip (9:30:32 PM): old kip
spies4kip (9:30:36 PM): i came in after that exile
spies4kip (3:44:53 AM): spies4Leon (9:30:35 PM): could you check his confessional
spies4Leon (9:30:37 PM): and tell me why?
spies4kip (9:30:41 PM): for reasons?
spies4kip (9:30:42 PM): sure
spies4kip (3:45:30 AM): sigh, i wish kip wouldve left me with at least something to work with...
spies4Zander (3:46:38 AM): i dont get why he just quit
spies4Zander (3:46:45 AM): but hew as a rooten vag. anyway
spies4Zander (3:46:50 AM): at leats your kinda cool
spies4Zander (3:46:53 AM): but you still look weird
spies4Zander (3:46:58 AM): you ned a hiarcut and contacts
spies4kip (3:47:03 AM): so far old kip was 2-2 on spies (2 unknown)
spies4kip (3:47:14 AM): he nailed bev and naomi, off on ade and lloyd
spies4kip (3:47:20 AM): err
spies4kip (3:47:21 AM): wait
spies4kip (3:47:26 AM): he tohught bev and naomi were cits
spies4Singe (3:47:26 AM): zander when did you go from charming gentleman magician to boorish rude chav?
spies4kip (3:47:31 AM): and bev and lloyd werent
spies4kip (3:47:35 AM): ade and lloyd*
spies4Zander (3:48:11 AM): someone needed to step up after they left, face it
spies4Zander (3:48:28 AM): you're starting to follow my footsteps, singe boy, don't pretend like you're not
spies4Singe (3:48:32 AM): step up to fill the giant asshole void?
spies4Summer (3:48:42 AM): Again with the "boy" and please keep personal attacks to a minimum
spies4kip (3:49:01 AM): zander, be ready tomorrow
spies4Zander (3:49:13 AM): i'm not one that cares about people's feelinfs. i'm one that ceras about us winning
spies4kip (3:49:14 AM): im putting you under my white hot light
spies4Zander (3:49:22 AM): to see if im still drunk lol
spies4kip (3:49:33 AM): to interview you
spies4kip (3:49:39 AM): boy
spies4Zander (3:49:40 AM): you already did dint you
spies4Zander (3:49:42 AM): BOY BOY
spies4Summer (3:49:44 AM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (3:49:47 AM): no i didnt
spies4Zander (3:49:48 AM): LOOK SUMMER I SAID BOY
spies4kip (3:49:55 AM): GIRL!
spies4Zander (3:50:00 AM): and you still look-a-like a man but i love you
spies4kip (3:50:09 AM): ...
spies4Zander (3:50:17 AM): if I signed up as Miss Swan next game do you think id get approved
spies4kip (3:50:25 AM): summer, i have a hard time believing you ever giggle
spies4Singe (3:50:34 AM): i wonder who will be banned from next game
spies4Singe (3:50:40 AM): for incivility
spies4kip (3:50:52 AM): everyone who says he c-word
spies4Zander (3:51:08 AM): you will live with it. i know you will
spies4Singe (3:51:21 AM): poor lise
spies4Singe (3:51:25 AM): missed all this fun
spies4Summer (3:51:28 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Zander (3:51:36 AM): She was one of the first people I trusted too lol
spies4kip (3:51:40 AM): here in my car i feel safest of alli can lock all my doors and its the only way i live in cars
spies4Singe (3:51:40 AM): one of you lot likely ganked her
spies4Zander (3:51:46 AM): And guess who I told
spies4Zander (3:51:48 AM): MASAKI
spies4Singe (3:51:59 AM): masaki bomb!
spies4Singe (3:52:07 AM): *chugs*
spies4Zander (3:52:11 AM): is that like a racist Asian joke?
spies4Singe (3:52:16 AM): *chases with sapporo*
spies4kip (3:52:27 AM): malosaki coattail!
spies4Singe (3:52:39 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Summer (3:52:46 AM): Oh my gosh
spies4Zander (3:52:48 AM): Singe must be out o fhis mind if he thinks ill be banned fro mnext game
spies4Zander (3:52:50 AM): Sam is my lover
spies4Summer (3:52:53 AM): You're making fun of me
spies4kip (3:52:59 AM): *giggle*
spies4Singe (3:53:02 AM): gosh
spies4Singe (3:53:04 AM): <3
spies4Summer (3:53:15 AM):
spies4kip (3:53:19 AM):
spies4kip (3:53:43 AM): i thought masaki was gonna post this chat ><
spies4Zander (3:53:52 AM): And you believed him?
spies4Zander (3:53:57 AM): Kip darlng didnt ou learn
spies4Zander (3:54:00 AM): never trust a spy
spies4kip (3:54:07 AM): but i trust you
spies4kip (3:54:10 AM): OHHHHHHHHH
spies4kip (3:54:11 AM): burned
spies4Zander (3:54:13 AM): k bitches loev you all but i needsleep
spies4Singe (3:54:15 AM): drunk zander is convincing
spies4Zander (3:54:17 AM): OH SNAP YOU LONG HAIRED UGLY!
spies4Singe (3:54:25 AM): not convincing about masaki
spies4kip (3:54:27 AM): listen son
spies4Zander (3:54:32 AM): bring it bitch
spies4Zander (3:54:34 AM): i will shank you
spies4Singe (3:54:36 AM): but convincingly real and retarded
spies4kip (3:54:38 AM): go to bed sport
spies4Summer (3:54:39 AM): Shank?
spies4Zander (3:54:46 AM): singe im glad you think i'm retarted
spies4Singe (3:54:54 AM): just drunk
spies4Zander (3:54:55 AM): Shank = Shiv, Stab with random sharp object (not a knife)
spies4kip (3:55:06 AM): to be stabbed by a homemade knife.
spies4Zander (3:55:08 AM): i ma drunk. however that is ulnrelated to being reatrded
spies4Singe (3:55:10 AM): love the drama though
spies4Singe (3:55:15 AM): the LL will love you
spies4Singe (3:55:19 AM): MORE ZANDER!
spies4kip (3:55:20 AM): ok zander, go to bed tiger
spies4Zander (3:55:22 AM): i have nohting ot hide, if i i did a i would avoid the computer hwen i was sdrunk lol
spies4Singe (3:55:23 AM): RESSURECT ZANDER!
spies4Zander (3:55:27 AM): gordy already told me LL loves me
spies4Zander (3:55:32 AM): DEAL WITH IT JEALOUS WHORE
spies4Singe (3:55:38 AM): LL thinks im a dirtbag
spies4Zander (3:55:45 AM): yep, they think youre a spy
spies4Singe (3:55:48 AM): LL clearly needs a clue
spies4kip (3:55:49 AM): ll prolly doesnt kno who kip is
spies4Zander (3:55:53 AM): wouldnt be surprised if ou were but right now i dont think so
spies4Singe (3:56:12 AM): did me pegging cain correctly
spies4Singe (3:56:15 AM): mean ANYTHING?
spies4Summer (3:56:23 AM): Sure
spies4Zander (3:56:23 AM): What about me, bitch.
spies4Singe (3:56:27 AM): you too
spies4Zander (3:56:32 AM): yeah thats what i thoguth
spies4Zander (3:56:35 AM): <3 singe
spies4Zander (3:56:38 AM): <3 Summer
spies4Zander (3:56:43 AM): <3 Kip when he get a haircut
spies4Singe (3:56:48 AM): nite Z
spies4Summer (3:56:53 AM): Good night Zander
spies4kip (3:56:53 AM): night za
spies4Singe (3:56:54 AM): drink water take tylenol
spies4Zander (3:57:00 AM): <3 myself the most cause i'm almost never wrong exceptfor... when i am lol
spies4Singe (3:57:01 AM): hug a cat
spies4Zander (3:57:04 AM): please singe, i'm a pro
spies4Zander (3:57:07 AM): you wihs you could be me
spies4kip (3:57:10 AM): night MAGIC BOY
spies4Singe (3:57:14 AM): i have the cat
spies4Summer (3:57:15 AM): *Giggle*
spies4Singe (3:57:16 AM): and the water
spies4Zander (3:57:17 AM): MAGIC BOY WHOOOOOOOO
spies4Zander (3:57:21 AM): singe has a pussy
spies4Zander (3:57:28 AM): thus has spoken Zander the Daring
spies4Singe (3:57:29 AM): you heard it here first
spies4Singe (3:57:36 AM): bute retard
spies4Zander (3:57:38 AM): PRESTO. i'm naked
spies4Singe (3:57:38 AM): *nite
spies4Zander (3:57:51 AM): BUTE SINGE <3<3<3
spies4kip (3:57:52 AM): horrible mental image
spies4Singe (3:57:56 AM): its sark
spies4Singe (3:58:00 AM): dark
spies4Singe (3:58:23 AM): shoo begone
spies4kip (3:58:30 AM): begone demon
spies4Singe (3:58:40 AM): i love that demon started posting
spies4kip (3:58:41 AM): SHUN THE NONBELIEVER
spies4Singe (3:58:45 AM): when he was fake-attacked
spies4kip (3:58:51 AM): SHUUUUUUUN
spies4Summer (3:58:55 AM): Once you stop, he'll disappear
spies4Singe (3:59:04 AM): i already stopped
spies4Singe (3:59:09 AM): we'll see what he does
spies4Singe (3:59:22 AM): now faizah's gonna divert attention
spies4Singe (3:59:26 AM): with comments about race
spies4kip (3:59:31 AM): damons been talking to me...
spies4Singe (3:59:34 AM): and purses or some shit
spies4kip (3:59:36 AM): but i am in his familt
spies4kip (3:59:39 AM): family*
spies4Singe (4:00:05 AM): i hoped some lurking tards had good roles
spies4kip (4:00:11 AM): lol
spies4Singe (4:00:15 AM): looks like 2 did, spilled them, and got ganked for it
spies4Summer (4:00:22 AM): Who was the second?
spies4Singe (4:00:26 AM): cain
spies4Summer (4:00:40 AM): I think it is fairly obvious that Cain did not have a role.
spies4Singe (4:00:46 AM): i dont get you
spies4kip (4:00:51 AM): i dont get you
spies4kip (4:00:53 AM): mr singe
spies4Summer (4:01:00 AM): Neither Beverly nor Gordy seemed to know Cain had a role.
spies4Summer (4:01:08 AM): He trusted them implicitly
spies4Singe (4:01:10 AM): he would have told them?
spies4Summer (4:01:10 AM): He would have told them.
spies4Singe (4:01:20 AM): you sure?
spies4Summer (4:01:28 AM): In my opinion, yes.
spies4kip (4:01:35 AM): real question
spies4kip (4:01:38 AM): does it matter
spies4kip (4:01:42 AM): if cain had one or not?
spies4Singe (4:01:52 AM): gordy said the cits know about the immunity role and the johan message said cain has it
spies4Summer (4:01:55 AM): No because he was exiled, not imprisoned, by a majority larger than 3.
spies4Singe (4:02:19 AM): a crackpot message
spies4Singe (4:02:27 AM): from before naomi died
spies4Summer (4:02:32 AM): From a spy.
spies4kip (4:02:36 AM): what you can gain from cain is who voted him, who defended him, and who pushed for him
spies4Singe (4:02:37 AM): how do you know that
spies4Singe (4:02:44 AM): cits say dumb things too
spies4Summer (4:02:48 AM): For the third time tonight, that message was from a spy.
spies4Summer (4:02:57 AM): We've already discussed this.
spies4kip (4:03:00 AM): citz wouldnt send a message they thought might be false
spies4Singe (4:03:12 AM): you said cause it said ang+candy alliance ang+naomi alliance
spies4kip (4:03:18 AM): look at spies 3, the cits had a chance to send one, and they debated for days over what to write
spies4Summer (4:03:38 AM): As well as the tone
spies4kip (4:03:39 AM): to make sure it wasnt flawed
spies4Summer (4:03:56 AM): Well Kip what do you think?
spies4kip (4:04:04 AM): i dont think cain had a role
spies4Summer (4:04:04 AM): The LL people are saying Singe is a spy
spies4kip (4:04:12 AM): i dont buy that yet
spies4kip (4:04:32 AM): they dont know more than we do
spies4Singe (4:04:36 AM): i pored over the messages today
spies4Singe (4:05:06 AM): "Thank GOD you have this role. THANKS for sending in Gordy, we trained him well for what he needs to say when he enters. ALL HIS INFORMATION IS LEGIT. "
spies4Singe (4:05:08 AM): "You can FULLY trust EVERYTHING Gordy says. Also, what Gordy wasn't around for to here, we now know that CANDY is an ORTHODOXY SPY. If possible, get rid of her as soon as you possibly can. THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT."
spies4Singe (4:05:12 AM): Cit or Spy?
spies4kip (4:05:29 AM): the second one is spy
spies4Singe (4:05:35 AM): that's all one message
spies4kip (4:05:35 AM): according to what gordy said
spies4kip (4:05:40 AM): then spy
spies4kip (4:05:44 AM): gordy said LL loves candy
spies4kip (4:06:01 AM): doesnt mean its not true
spies4kip (4:06:07 AM): and what spy group
spies4Singe (4:06:15 AM): "So, Candy wins an Investigation, uses it on Beverly of all people, and decides not to tell anyone? Why? Both Candy and Beverly were part of Exile III-1. So why did she vote Jeremiah? Something here isn't adding up."
spies4Summer (4:06:18 AM): He said the spies are together in 1 LL
spies4kip (4:06:18 AM): so many questions
spies4Singe (4:06:19 AM): Cit or Spy
spies4kip (4:06:21 AM): and what ifs
spies4kip (4:06:34 AM): prolly spy as well
spies4kip (4:06:37 AM): cuz ll loves candy
spies4kip (4:06:52 AM): again, according to gordy
spies4Summer (4:06:59 AM): He would know
spies4kip (4:07:04 AM): who just cuz hes a cit, i dont trust
spies4kip (4:07:12 AM): hes extremely bias
spies4Summer (4:07:16 AM): Well I'm sure the LL people talk about the messages they've sent
spies4kip (4:07:23 AM): yeah
spies4Summer (4:07:34 AM): So he would have a good idea of who sent what
spies4Singe (4:07:51 AM): "Also, Citizens DID NOT send any messages during the Bunni Trial. You can be sure that one of the Spies sent you those notes."
spies4Summer (4:08:12 AM): Gordy can confirm that one
spies4kip (4:08:13 AM): itd be great if johan marked when they were sent to him
spies4Singe (4:08:38 AM): candy should have more messages
spies4Singe (4:08:46 AM): she should consider posting them all
spies4kip (4:09:00 AM): should and will arent the same
spies4kip (4:09:06 AM): candy reveals little
spies4kip (4:09:25 AM): and on that note, i must be going
spies4kip (4:09:29 AM): 4:10am
spies4Singe (4:09:29 AM): nite kip
spies4Summer (4:09:32 AM): I'm so tired
spies4Singe (4:09:35 AM): nite summ
spies4Summer (4:09:36 AM): Good night Singe and Kip
spies4Singe (4:09:41 AM): sweet dreams you two
spies4kip (4:09:42 AM): night both of you

[Summer]

spies4Summer (7:13:51 PM): Hi Kip
spies4kip (7:15:42 PM): hey summer
spies4kip (7:15:43 PM): whats up
spies4Summer (7:15:50 PM): Not much
spies4Summer (7:15:54 PM): How are you?
spies4kip (7:16:00 PM): doing alright
spies4kip (7:16:07 PM): just exile and all
spies4kip (7:16:13 PM): and you?
spies4Summer (7:16:26 PM): I'm almost glad we don't have 2 days to stew in exile anticipation
spies4kip (7:16:31 PM): yeah
spies4kip (7:16:35 PM): well we will after tonight lol
spies4Summer (7:16:38 PM): Yes
spies4kip (7:16:44 PM): cuz part2 is sat
spies4Summer (7:17:03 PM): Well ... at least I'll have something going on Saturday night for once
spies4kip (7:17:15 PM): aww
spies4kip (7:17:26 PM): im not sure if ill be here or not yet
spies4Summer (7:17:57 PM): Well, one exile at a time
spies4Summer (7:18:06 PM): Could you fill me in on what's happened today?
spies4kip (7:18:06 PM): brb
spies4kip (7:18:17 PM): and yeah in asec
spies4kip (7:22:35 PM): back
spies4Summer (7:22:43 PM): Hi
spies4kip (7:22:45 PM): ok lets see what happened
spies4kip (7:23:08 PM): gordy changed his mind and said singe didnt change the messages johan sent him
spies4kip (7:23:15 PM): and gordy started saying zander was a spy
spies4kip (7:23:21 PM): and that singe wasnt
spies4kip (7:23:39 PM): and he also said the entire LL didnt hate singe like candy was saying before
spies4kip (7:23:46 PM): there was a chat
spies4Summer (7:23:51 PM): Hate and suspect are 2 different things
spies4kip (7:23:57 PM): suspect too
spies4kip (7:24:00 PM): thats what i meant
spies4kip (7:24:05 PM): they didnt suspect singe
spies4kip (7:24:08 PM): but they think hes annoying
spies4kip (7:24:35 PM): then there was a chat where gordy started saying to watch zander
spies4kip (7:24:40 PM): but someone invited zander
spies4kip (7:24:45 PM): so gordy like left
spies4Summer (7:24:48 PM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (7:25:01 PM): people were talking about leon
spies4kip (7:25:10 PM): and candy started telling people the vote was for leon
spies4kip (7:25:25 PM): singe made some big exile evidence thread
spies4kip (7:25:31 PM): where he gave people marks like damon does
spies4kip (7:25:39 PM): based on what was posted in the burg, etc
spies4kip (7:25:43 PM): he included himself
spies4Summer (7:25:59 PM): His point of view is fairly different from mine
spies4Summer (7:26:03 PM): I find that fascinating
spies4kip (7:26:08 PM): faizah posted she was voting for singe
spies4kip (7:26:27 PM): gordy said he told no one about johan
spies4kip (7:26:36 PM): and was interested in hearing what zander knew, cuz he had no idea
spies4kip (7:26:59 PM): i got to interview both masaki and zander, at the same time, and singe interviewed me
spies4kip (7:27:03 PM): umm...
spies4Summer (7:27:16 PM): I don't think I'll ever get to interview Abrams
spies4Summer (7:27:20 PM): Or Leon will interview me
spies4kip (7:27:27 PM): lol i havent seen either
spies4Summer (7:27:44 PM): Well Sam did say that if Abrams went 1 more round without posting conversations that he would be kicked out of the game
spies4Summer (7:27:58 PM): I bet you he will tonight
spies4kip (7:28:02 PM): prolly
spies4kip (7:28:06 PM): expelled or exiled though
spies4Summer (7:28:10 PM): This frustrates me beyond words
spies4Summer (7:28:26 PM): He's the closest thing we have to a confirmed citizen and he is going to make us waste an exile
spies4kip (7:29:31 PM): he better be expelled if anything
spies4Summer (7:29:52 PM): It just makes this so ....
spies4Summer (7:30:00 PM): Oh gosh what is the word
spies4kip (7:30:05 PM): frustrating
spies4kip (7:30:07 PM): annoying
spies4kip (7:30:12 PM): useless
spies4kip (7:30:15 PM): stupid
spies4kip (7:30:21 PM): etc...
spies4Summer (7:30:35 PM): There's a specific word I'm looking for
spies4kip (7:30:54 PM): hrmm
spies4kip (7:31:00 PM): whats it start with?
spies4Summer (7:31:05 PM): Existentialist
spies4kip (7:31:15 PM): yeah
spies4Summer (7:31:25 PM): Where nothing you do has meaning and the world is absurd
spies4kip (7:31:38 PM): lol
spies4kip (7:31:46 PM): abrams is absurd
spies4kip (7:32:01 PM): omg boht have 6 letters, and abrs.... is fact
spies4Summer (7:32:14 PM): *Giggle*
spies4kip (7:32:22 PM): summer spy... both s's
spies4Summer (7:32:23 PM): Nice connection
spies4Summer (7:32:28 PM): Not a nice connection
spies4kip (7:32:31 PM): hahaha
spies4kip (7:32:33 PM): yeah i kno
spies4kip (7:32:36 PM): youre a cit
spies4kip (7:32:40 PM): im almost sure of it
spies4Summer (7:32:46 PM): Thank you but don't spread it around
spies4kip (7:33:00 PM): no worries
spies4Summer (7:33:01 PM): One of the comments on the rankings said I was the perfect imprisonment target
spies4kip (7:33:06 PM): ouch
spies4kip (7:33:08 PM): i didnt see that
spies4Summer (7:33:09 PM): I was almost offended
spies4Summer (7:33:19 PM): Faizah said I should be flattered
spies4kip (7:33:25 PM): *rolls eyes*
spies4kip (7:33:34 PM): brb again
spies4Summer (7:33:43 PM): I was so upset about almost being imprisoned last night and she told me "Be happy! It means they like you!"
spies4kip (7:38:17 PM): sigh
spies4kip (7:38:20 PM): faizah is a lost cause
spies4Summer (7:38:47 PM): Because she voted Singe?
spies4Summer (7:38:53 PM): Oh sorry
spies4Summer (7:38:58 PM): I forgot I had just commented on her
spies4kip (7:39:02 PM): cuz she thinks its good to be almost imp'd
spies4kip (7:39:09 PM): and kinda cuz she voted singe lol
spies4kip (7:39:37 PM): well not cuz she did, why she did
spies4kip (7:39:42 PM): she really has no reason
spies4Summer (7:39:43 PM): What do you mean?
spies4Summer (7:39:44 PM): Oh
spies4kip (7:39:52 PM): shes grasping
spies4Summer (7:40:07 PM): I think she's trying to figure out if and who is a spy in the Johan situation
spies4kip (7:40:21 PM): singe candy or zander...
spies4kip (7:40:26 PM): mr confirmed cit says zander
spies4Summer (7:40:28 PM): Or maybe none of the above!
spies4kip (7:40:36 PM): or none of the above right
spies4kip (7:41:00 PM): 25% chance of guessing
spies4Summer (7:41:03 PM): So do we start a witch hunt or do we dismiss it or what
spies4Summer (7:41:12 PM): She says Singe
spies4kip (7:41:12 PM): for the johan killer?
spies4kip (7:41:25 PM): witch hunt for what?
spies4Summer (7:41:25 PM): Yes
spies4kip (7:41:28 PM): hrmm
spies4kip (7:41:35 PM): i think we should yeah
spies4kip (7:41:49 PM): prolly to short notice for tonight, but im all for it on saturday
spies4kip (7:41:56 PM): we got a lot of time to discuss and stuff
spies4kip (7:42:06 PM): but who knows, maybe we can do it tonight
spies4Summer (7:42:09 PM): I just wrote some things in my confessional
spies4Summer (7:42:17 PM): One thing that I didn't realize
spies4kip (7:42:37 PM): geez, i wish i had a way to confirm you were a citizen
spies4Summer (7:42:48 PM): Last night I said that the last Traditionalist seems to have abandoned their individual game and joined forces with the spies as a whole
spies4Summer (7:43:13 PM): If that's the case, there should be 3 people working on cases to get rid of citizens
spies4Summer (7:43:27 PM): *Giggle* be the fatemaker Kip
spies4Summer (7:43:40 PM): I'm not actually asking if you are or not
spies4kip (7:43:46 PM): im not
spies4kip (7:43:51 PM): though id say that if i was
spies4Summer (7:44:05 PM): Anyway if Leon was a spy wouldn't there be a case forming against someone else?
spies4Summer (7:44:11 PM): Like as a diversion?
spies4kip (7:44:26 PM): you'd think
spies4Summer (7:45:00 PM): It's almost like reverse psychology
spies4Summer (7:45:03 PM): WIFOM I guess Naomi would say
spies4kip (7:45:35 PM): only thing is, if leon is the trad, would the orthos honestly care if he went?
spies4Summer (7:45:36 PM): My 2 Angelica snippets say that Leon could be a spy
spies4Summer (7:45:47 PM): Probably not?
spies4kip (7:45:52 PM): i dont think they would
spies4Summer (7:46:00 PM): He's also not around
spies4kip (7:46:01 PM): i dont think they wanna the trad
spies4kip (7:46:14 PM): cuz they can use them to take the candy's of the game out
spies4kip (7:46:22 PM): but if the burg will exile the trad, meh, so be it
spies4kip (7:46:29 PM): now they get to imp every time
spies4Summer (7:46:39 PM): That's what Singe says
spies4Summer (7:46:45 PM): But if that's the case, why imprison Adelaide?
spies4Summer (7:46:59 PM): Yes, she had a role
spies4Summer (7:47:04 PM): But it's foolishly short sighted
spies4kip (7:47:12 PM): her theories were semi right at times
spies4kip (7:47:20 PM): maybe she was sniffing to close to the truth
spies4kip (7:47:29 PM): what about this...
spies4Summer (7:47:46 PM): No, really - imprison the last Traditionalist and you can imprison whoever you want after that!
spies4Summer (7:47:56 PM): They chose to give up the chance to control the very next imprisonment
spies4kip (7:48:00 PM): the orthos kno the trad is leon... so they imp ade, get rid of a role, and since ade was gonna post on leon it frams leon, burg exiles him for the orthos
spies4kip (7:48:04 PM): far fetched or no
spies4Summer (7:48:15 PM): Intriguing
spies4kip (7:48:24 PM): kills two birds with one stone
spies4kip (7:48:34 PM): also a lot of coincidences in there
spies4kip (7:48:35 PM): and what ifs
spies4Summer (7:48:52 PM): Do you think the fatemaker will be the next imprisoned?
spies4kip (7:48:52 PM): and as for keeping the trad
spies4Summer (7:49:03 PM): Keep in mind that the Orthodoxies get the next imprisonment
spies4kip (7:49:03 PM): the longer both groups are in
spies4kip (7:49:08 PM): the less info we gain from imps
spies4kip (7:49:23 PM): cuz if it alternates we never get to see what the orthos want every round
spies4kip (7:49:25 PM): just every other
spies4Summer (7:49:26 PM): Right
spies4kip (7:49:41 PM): and yeah i expect the fm to go, if they've blabbed their role
spies4kip (7:49:46 PM): otherwise it'll be someone else
spies4kip (7:49:49 PM): or a lucky guess
spies4Summer (7:50:15 PM): Or another role holder
spies4kip (7:50:19 PM): which is why i stear clear of discussing who the fm is with anyone
spies4Summer (7:50:20 PM): If there is one
spies4kip (7:50:34 PM): cuz i dont want to figure it out, and have the off chance that the person i spoke to is a spy
spies4Summer (7:50:41 PM): Yes
spies4kip (7:50:49 PM): wont stop me from trying to figure it out solo though
spies4kip (7:50:56 PM): and im sure theres more roles out there
spies4kip (7:51:16 PM): 26 person game, 7 spies? gotta be over 4 cit roles
spies4kip (7:51:29 PM): especially when the roles we kno about are like johans
spies4Summer (7:51:29 PM): 29
spies4kip (7:51:30 PM): or ade
spies4kip (7:51:38 PM): those are kinda weak roles
spies4kip (7:51:51 PM): and yeah 29
spies4kip (7:53:39 PM): ah 8pm
spies4kip (7:53:40 PM): i gtg
spies4Summer (7:53:45 PM): Oh I'm so late
spies4kip (7:53:45 PM): survivor is on
spies4Summer (7:53:50 PM): Bye Kip
spies4kip (7:53:54 PM): back in an hour
spies4kip (7:53:56 PM): ttyl summer

[Summer]

spies4Masaki (7:28:42 PM): hi
spies4Summer (7:28:48 PM): Hi Masaki
spies4Masaki (7:28:49 PM): sorry if i got pissy last night
spies4Masaki (7:28:55 PM): Zander has been on my nerves for a while now
spies4Summer (7:29:12 PM): Watching the two of you last night was pretty depressing
spies4Masaki (7:31:17 PM):
spies4Summer (7:31:47 PM): Have you seen Abrams on at all?
spies4Summer (7:31:51 PM): I have to interview him
spies4Masaki (7:31:56 PM): On, but always away
spies4Masaki (7:32:03 PM): Try PMing him the questions
spies4Masaki (7:32:15 PM): And post in his Gov't file that you've mailed them and are awaiting a response
spies4Masaki (7:32:25 PM): Just so you don't get penalties
spies4Summer (7:34:02 PM): Speaking of penalties
spies4Summer (7:34:12 PM): I am fairly certain this exile won't even matter
spies4Masaki (7:34:27 PM): Probably not, but it's still best to be safe than sorry
spies4Summer (7:34:37 PM): Sam warned Abrams that if he didn't post conversations again he would be eliminated
spies4Masaki (7:34:43 PM): ah...
spies4Masaki (7:34:45 PM): damn...
spies4Masaki (7:34:49 PM): that's right
spies4Masaki (7:34:52 PM): I don't think he's even had any
spies4Summer (7:35:01 PM): Then we're thinking the same thing.
spies4Summer (7:35:19 PM): I realized how existentialist the whole situation is
spies4Summer (7:35:34 PM): He's the closest thing we have to a confirmed citizen and he is going to make us waste an exile
spies4Summer (7:35:45 PM): Madison as well
spies4Masaki (7:36:26 PM): sigh!
spies4Masaki (7:36:32 PM): It's frustrating, really
spies4Summer (7:36:45 PM): 3) WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GORDY'S RESURRECTION? HOW CAN WE USE THIS TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS DURING THIS EPISODE?

spies4Gordy: He became a zombie and bit Sam's neck. Sam will be a zombie in no time too. Afterwards, Gordy knows what he's doing despite *BLEEP* being a stupid *BLEEP*
spies4Gordy: scratch the last part off
spies4Summer (7:37:10 PM): That was so unexpectedly funny
spies4Summer (7:37:49 PM): Why would you even ask that question to Gordy himself?
spies4Masaki (7:38:05 PM): consistency
spies4Masaki (7:38:11 PM): I had a set of questions I asked Faizah, figured I'd ask him as well
spies4Masaki (7:38:15 PM): And, besides
spies4Masaki (7:38:21 PM): He'd know better than anyone else
spies4Masaki (7:38:26 PM): how to best utilize his own time here
spies4Masaki (7:38:33 PM): Unfortunately he kind of made a joke of the interview
spies4Summer (7:38:36 PM): I wish I had an inkling of what he was up to

[Summer]

spies4Gordy (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Masaki (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Singe (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Candy (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Bunni (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4kip (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Summer (10:08:04 PM) has entered the room.
spies4Summer (10:08:09 PM): Hi everyone
spies4Masaki (10:08:09 PM): Ok Kip you're off the hook
spies4Masaki (10:08:14 PM): You get Summer
spies4Masaki (10:08:18 PM): Singe gets Candy
spies4Masaki (10:08:21 PM): I get Bunni
spies4Gordy (10:08:24 PM): I like South african acorns
spies4Masaki (10:08:24 PM): And Gordy gets... Sam?
spies4kip (10:08:30 PM): gordy would like sam
spies4Gordy (10:08:33 PM): I get Cain <3 <3 <3
spies4kip (10:08:36 PM): or cain
spies4kip (10:08:44 PM): gordy likes cain's.... cane?
spies4Masaki (10:08:45 PM): You have to wait until you go back to heaven for that one
spies4Bunni (10:08:51 PM): or hannah. she's from s aftrica.
spies4Gordy (10:08:52 PM): I can't wait!
spies4Gordy (10:09:01 PM): I know, Bunni. That's why I said South Africa
spies4Bunni (10:09:08 PM): and she's a man, right?
spies4Bunni (10:09:10 PM): :X
spies4Gordy (10:09:13 PM): wait scratch that
spies4kip (10:09:15 PM): or hannah, cuz shes as smart as an acorn
spies4Gordy (10:09:15 PM): ><
spies4Masaki (10:09:20 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (10:09:20 PM): ouch
spies4kip (10:09:20 PM): right? right?
spies4Summer (10:09:24 PM): ... No
spies4kip (10:09:30 PM):
spies4Masaki (10:09:31 PM): That was rough
spies4Gordy (10:09:32 PM): don't insult acorns everywhere
spies4kip (10:09:34 PM): i was joking
spies4kip (10:09:37 PM): rofl
spies4kip (10:09:46 PM): comparing hannah to acorns insults acorns
spies4kip (10:09:48 PM): good one gordy
spies4Masaki (10:09:51 PM): haha
spies4Masaki (10:09:53 PM): double ouch
spies4kip (10:10:06 PM):
spies4Masaki (10:10:07 PM): And I thought I was mean
spies4Bunni (10:10:42 PM): has anyone seeeeen johan, abrams, or leon?
spies4Masaki (10:10:51 PM): Johan was uh... you know...
spies4Masaki (10:10:53 PM): imprisoned
spies4Bunni (10:10:55 PM): cause nobody's interviewed me yet.
spies4Bunni (10:10:59 PM): oh yeah.
spies4Bunni (10:11:17 PM): i guess i'm not getting interviewed then.
spies4Masaki (10:11:27 PM): Prolly not, you got an easy list
spies4kip (10:11:29 PM): lucky
spies4Bunni (10:11:37 PM): candy, did you get my pm?
spies4Bunni (10:11:45 PM): i sent you questions to answer.
spies4Masaki (10:11:48 PM): Yea she said she was gonna answer them
spies4Candy (10:11:48 PM): I'm working on it
spies4Bunni (10:11:50 PM): kk
spies4Candy (10:11:50 PM): I'm on #5
spies4kip (10:13:04 PM): well, its getting to be about that time of the evening
spies4kip (10:13:42 PM): 16 minutes
spies4Summer (10:14:01 PM):
spies4kip (10:14:23 PM): perk up summer
spies4Singe (10:14:36 PM): anyone here voting for me tonight?
spies4Singe (10:14:39 PM): for exile?
spies4kip (10:14:42 PM): i am
spies4kip (10:14:52 PM): we all are actually
spies4kip (10:15:04 PM): it was supposed to be a SURPRISE!
spies4kip (10:15:23 PM): *crickets*
spies4kip (10:15:30 PM):
spies4Singe (10:16:20 PM):
spies4Masaki (10:16:24 PM): You know I would, boi
spies4Masaki (10:16:31 PM): But you webbed me into your family
spies4Masaki (10:16:56 PM): Nah I'm voting Leon
spies4kip (10:16:59 PM): sam said you could vote inside families if you're voting singe
spies4Masaki (10:17:01 PM): He's been my vote for 2 days now
spies4Masaki (10:17:06 PM): Oh really?
spies4kip (10:17:08 PM): yeah
spies4Singe (10:17:30 PM): Summer who are you voting for?
spies4kip (10:17:32 PM): Sorin the Seeker: You can't vote Damon, but Masaki can vote Singe, I don't like Singe, he sucks.
spies4Summer (10:17:41 PM): Sam did not say that
spies4Bunni (10:17:44 PM): OMG SAM
spies4Masaki (10:17:47 PM): Hey he's ignoring my IMs!
spies4Masaki (10:17:53 PM): I even invited him to the chat and he rejected it
spies4kip (10:18:28 PM): sam so said that
spies4Bunni (10:18:43 PM): brb
spies4Masaki (10:19:01 PM): Sorin the Seeker: And the last vote for Exile 9.1 is............
spies4Masaki (10:19:16 PM): Sorin the Seeker: Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe, Singe ,Singe, Singe ,Singe, Singe for sucking ,lol bye noob
spies4Singe (10:19:34 PM):
spies4kip (10:19:49 PM): singe x100 by sam
spies4Masaki (10:19:59 PM): God sam has the coolest role
spies4kip (10:20:25 PM): we need to get sam 'zanderdrunk' so he spills all his game secrets
spies4Masaki (10:20:58 PM): You have a role. You are a Judge. You have a hammer. Using this hammer, you can stomp the votes of the peons and exile whoever you please.
spies4Singe (10:23:35 PM): Candy, do you really think I am the last trad and that I learned Johan's role and I knew you knew I knew and then I ganked him?
spies4kip (10:24:00 PM): i believe the correct term is shank
spies4Masaki (10:24:15 PM): gank requires a group
spies4Singe (10:24:32 PM): also, do the PMs sam gives you from the last trad spy really read like I wrote them?
spies4Masaki (10:25:15 PM): pms?