Day 10 - Conversations

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Singe: morning Damon
Damon: Good afternoon
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Singe: Great night last night in the Burg
spies4Singe: I really didn't expect one of the girls to break from the pack and vote Masaki, very glad it happened though.
Damon: I was very glad as well. Because I think Kip is an asset and I was getting funky vibes from Masaki.
Damon: I like you new User Name on the Forum
spies4Singe: thanks, lol, i didnt invent it but i'll take it
spies4Singe: So are you inclined to trust Hannah a little more after last night?
spies4Singe: And Kip?
Damon: I've trusted Kip since he got replaced and I'm a bit more inclined to trust Hannah but it's not definite.
spies4Singe: right
Damon: I expect I'll hold of judgment until after the next Imprisonment. at least as to what the next step should be.
spies4Singe: Well, if you trust Kip then you also believe there's a Doc, correct?
spies4Singe: Candy and I know who that person is, so from my perspective there are 3 cits + kip who are a solid voting bloc right now
Damon: I believe Kip, yes.
Damon: And I just hope that you guys make an intelligent voting block.
spies4Singe: well, advise kip and candy
spies4Singe: and hopefully they make the right calls
Damon: The only problem I have with Candy is her desire to play the shadow game. I'm not a fan.
spies4Singe: right
spies4Singe: agreed
spies4Singe: i wish i was in her position, it'd all be aboveboard
Damon: So to think of her having sway makes me very uncomfortable because without her Role she'd be a piss poor Cit.
spies4Singe: i'll enjoy watching sam's analysis of her after the game
Damon: As far as I can tell her role has given her all the information she's needed. Her random guessing and strategizing haven't really been against Spies. She's picked out several Cits in the process. And the Spies we have landed were only becaues of her Role.
Damon: Analysis?
spies4Singe: right
spies4Singe: she played the role well
spies4Singe: Yeah, sam does running commentary
spies4Singe: so he's been critiquing all of our play every day
Damon: She's played the Role well but I wouldn't have cared for her as just a Citizen. She played that poorly.
Damon: I'm worried to see my analysis.
spies4Singe: she played a very stubborn game
spies4Singe: i think sam will be wishing you participated more, but it's rough 6 -7 hrs away
Damon: Stubborn and secretive.
spies4Singe: who are your top suspects?
spies4Singe: and who do you think should be protected tonight for impris?
Damon: I really don't know anymore. I have the snow globe feeling again. I'd say I'll have a better take after Imprisonment. Before then I might point to Leon, Summer, Hannah, Faizah or you.
Damon: I hate to say it but probably Candy. We can't afford to lose her even if she is stubborn and hard to work with.
spies4Singe: she's immune
spies4Singe: without a doc protect, the doc gets to pick someone else
spies4Singe: she won exile X immun in the mole game
Damon: That's right.
Damon: I would say Kip then.
Damon: Although I don't think he'd be in much danger.
spies4Singe: that's a sound choice, he's looking fairly cit
spies4Singe: no, i dont either
Damon: Can the Doc protect themselves?
spies4Singe: from what gordy told me, yes
Damon: Then the Doc should protect themselves. We should hold tight to the Role people since those are their targets. I wouldn't think there'd be more than 2 left.
Damon: If they're both protected we can see what the Orthos are thinking when it comes down to plain Cits.
spies4Singe: they can only protect each player once
Damon: That much I wasn't aware of.
Damon: You know who they are?
spies4Singe: well, otherwise candy'd be around all game
Damon: I don't want to know. Just wanting to know if you know.
spies4Singe: i do.
Damon: That's true.
Damon: Who else knows?
spies4Singe: i learned when kip got the inv
spies4Singe: candy and kip know
Damon: Because you had the key to his post.
spies4Singe: kip has trusted me since old kip
Damon: I've trusted Kip since new Kip lol
spies4Singe: so he made candy and i his two trusted people on the inv
Damon: Before that it was Adelaide but I didn't share enough information with her as I should've.
spies4Singe: yeah she was the most obvious cit
Damon: Who are your suspects at present? Prior to the Imprisonment?
spies4Singe: faizah, leon, summer, you, hannah
spies4Singe: in that order
Damon: We have precisely the same list.. replacing each other on it.
spies4Singe: perfect
spies4Singe: summer is crafty
spies4Singe: almost impossible ot read
Damon: And Faizah has the dumb pawn role down
Damon: I've noticed too.
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Singe: she has done very little of use this game
spies4Singe: i suppose she could be a sheeping Cit
spies4Singe: but that would be very sad
Damon: And a waste of a player
Damon: Do I remember you saying that you think Faizah/Summer are the last Orthos? Or did I imagine that?
spies4Singe: i've been wavering on leon
spies4Singe: so yeah that's one of my top 3 pairings
Damon: I've been tossing around a theory that I'm not really convinced of regarding a Spy-wide strategy for each of the groups. The Trads seemed to be more out there in personality and activity. For the Orthos I didn't know enough about Angelica but I have a feeling that they could be a little bit more low key as a strategy.
spies4Singe: likely
spies4Singe: there arent many vocal people left
Damon: You and Candy.
spies4Singe: right, candy confirmed and i know im not a spy
Damon: I'm trying lol
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Singe: but summer, leon, faizah all lie low
spies4Singe: bunni too
Damon: Even Hannah doesn't contribute that much. She's not that high on my list but I do wonder.
spies4Singe: kip zander hannah less so
spies4Singe: right
Damon: I'll be back in a little, there's a meeting I should attend.
spies4Singe: ok seeya in a bit
Damon: Guess not.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Singe: good afternoon, damon
Damon: Good afternoon, Singe
spies4Singe: 18 possibilities, we're certainly narrowing it down.
Damon: That makes this a whole lot easier to deal with, Singe. Getting that list.
spies4Singe: i'm glad it helped, i like thinking in terms of possibilities
spies4Singe: and eliminating them
Damon: It's the best way to think. I've converted me.
spies4Singe: who would you say the most likely three are to go at impris, exile, impris?
Damon: You've.
Damon: Imp: Fake Doc or helpful Cit // Exile: Toss up right now, it depends on how the cards play at Imp, maybe Summer? // Imp: Candy
Damon: Sorry I meant Doc, not Fake Doc, just rememberin gwhat you were calling him for a while. It's been a long day at work. Apologies for beinga difficult conversatonalist
spies4Singe: ok so let's say bunni, summer, candy go
Damon: Why Bunni?
spies4Singe: theoretical
Damon: OK. Theoretically it's Bunni, Summer, Candy
spies4Singe: that would take us down to 10 possibilities
spies4Singe: or we hit a spy and we're down to 4-5 possibilities
spies4Singe: we're in very good shape right now
Damon: I would have to agree. If we hit one of the Spies it's like a game of battleship. There's only so many ways you can place the piece and we'll hit it going one way or another.
spies4Singe: righ
spies4Singe: t
spies4Singe: i would love to be able to eliminate more possibilities based on previous actions
Damon: You can't stretch it though or else you end up elimiating the pair. You don't know precisely how they've interacted. The things you've said thus far are obvious but if you reach too much further it'll be pushing the limits of credibility for the matches.
Damon: I'm going out with some of the guys after work. Have a good day, Singe, and I'll try and be around later.
spies4Singe: have fun
spies4Singe: and if i dont see you cause i get eliminated, good luck if you're a Cit
spies4Singe: candy seems to think you are... i think she slipped
spies4Singe: anything you'd care to share?
Damon: I'm a Cit
spies4Singe: do you have a role?
Damon: Nope. Vanilla Townsie.
spies4Singe: aww
spies4Singe: dunno how she has such a good vibe on you
Damon: You know who has the remaining roles
spies4Singe: i know one
spies4Singe: plus candy
Damon: I don't suspect there's more than them.
spies4Singe: i've BEGGED for a protect tonight
spies4Singe: candy is considering it
Damon: I find it hard to believe that Candy has a good vibe on me. She hates me.
spies4Singe: she's the boss of the doc
Damon: The Doc should be the boss of the Doc.
spies4Singe: i agree
spies4Singe: but candy's confirmed and im not
spies4Singe: so meh
spies4Singe: i think summer, zander or I will get targeted tonight
spies4Singe: so the protect should be one of those, or a doc self protect
Damon: I hope you're still around since you've had a lot to say and contribute. I've got to go now. Good luck.
spies4Singe: thanks, bye.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Singe: morning
Damon <AUTO-REPLY> : Status update: 5 down. Traditionalists exterminated. 2 Orthodoxy remaining.
Damon: Good afternoon.
spies4Singe: I think it's time for people to open up, yeah
spies4Singe: Summer, in particular
Damon: It's not just Summer. It's become everyone. But particularly Summer and Candy are getting on my nerves with the snarky little comments about activity.
Damon: If they keep coming back with all those comments anytime someone posts it's going to boil down to no one wantin to post to deal with the nastiness.
spies4Singe: Have you chatted Faizah up yet today?
Damon: No
spies4Singe: i'm interested to see what you can learn from her
spies4Singe: or how she approaches you
Damon: She's never IMed me before. I just dropped her a message.
spies4Singe: let's find out then
Damon: I'm glad you hung around. Did the Doc save you? And why target Bunni? That felt a little random.
spies4Singe: I feel very lucky right now.
spies4Singe: And no, the doc didn't save me lol I was surprised at that
Damon: Surprised they didn't save you or surprise you're still here?
spies4Singe: both
spies4Singe: i thought i had convinced them i was most likely to go
spies4Singe: the bunni kill shocks me, frankly, can you figure out why they'd have done it?
Damon: You want to know the first thought that came to mind?
Damon: It puts more power in Candy's hands since she controls that little block and Bunni wasn't a part of it. I don't think Candy is a Spy but maybe the Spies are part of that block that Candy trusts so much?
spies4Singe: good point
spies4Singe: bunni was NOT in candy's lap
spies4Singe: then again, neither am i
spies4Singe: have you discussed the doctor issue with anyone?
spies4Singe: asking them if they believe the claim, etc?
Damon: Nope
Damon: If the Spies are part of Candy's core, as you and I have discussed before, the move to get rid of Bunni was an intelligent one. That's the only way I've made it make sense.
spies4Singe: Can you do me a favor and find out what various people think of the doctor claim today?
Damon <AUTO-REPLY> : Status update: 5 down. Traditionalists exterminated. 2 Orthodoxy remaining.
spies4Singe: because as you and I both know, it's a fairly important issue
spies4Singe: if it's a false claim, then we know who the two spies are
spies4Singe: yet i dont sense certain people being curious about it
Damon: You know why my curiosity isn't as strongas it should be. I trust Kip. But I'll ask if I see anyone on.
spies4Singe: thanks, i dont think people talk to me about it because they suspect me of being the doctor
spies4Singe: zander and masaki did
spies4Singe: candy thought i was the doctor first but was lying about it
Damon: I thought you might've been. I'm not sure.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Faizah: hey!
Damon <AUTO-REPLY> : I'm not here right now
Damon: That's bright!
Damon: Or maybe it's my screen.
Damon: Hello
spies4Faizah: haha!
spies4Faizah: sorry
spies4Faizah: its probably my font
spies4Faizah: listen, I am probably getting exiled
spies4Faizah: so I am trying to get as much info as possible from people
spies4Faizah: can I ask you a question?
Damon: Feel free.
Damon: If I'm slow it's because I'm at work.
spies4Faizah: What do you think about the Kip role thing?
spies4Faizah: Do you think it exists, and that it developed into a doctor?
Damon: I'm inclined to believe Kip since I've trusted him for some time now. However I'm rather curious to find out who the Doctor might be and what they've done with the Role thus far. Who are your suspects for the Role?
spies4Faizah: I do think there is a role
spies4Faizah: But I still suspect Kip
spies4Faizah: so I think he either knows an innocent
spies4Faizah: or he was protecting his spy partner
spies4Faizah: if thats the case, no to the role
spies4Faizah: But I am inclined to think he is telling the truth, and that the role is real.
spies4Faizah: which would mean him, Candy, and his other person are confirmed
Damon: And it provides a bastion of Cit support when we need it most.
spies4Faizah: BUT what alot of others didnt realize, sure Kip goes and it sucks if he is a citizen
spies4Faizah: but it confirms someone else.
spies4Faizah: But
spies4Faizah: I realize I will probably go next
spies4Faizah: and theres little I can do about it
spies4Faizah: but I am not a spy, and I want to stay.
spies4Faizah: I suspect Singe majorly, but I dont think he will go. I also suspect Leon, and I think he might....so I will probably push for Leon
Damon: I'm more concerned about catchin a Spy and less concerned with proving a theory of Candy's true. I would say that my top list of suspects changes with the weather. It's hard to judge with this few left but if we will be honest at the moment I would label Singe, Leon, you and Summer as the top tier of suspects for me.
spies4Faizah: Ok
spies4Faizah: thanks for the info!
Damon: I'm not one to hold back.
Damon: Maybe we'd all benefit by sharing a little bit more. Not just you. But everyone at this stage. Too many people are playing their cards against their chests.
spies4Faizah: Yep
spies4Faizah: and when a suspect (like me) looks likely to go....
spies4Faizah: people (especially spies) dont have to do anything
spies4Faizah: and its an easy vote.
spies4Faizah: which is what pisses me off because I am friggin innocent.
Damon: You can swear that until the cows come home but there's little to do at this point in the game but try your hardest to target a Spy and get them gone.
spies4Faizah: yea
Damon: The fact that there are still 2 standing is a little helpful because that leaves us only with so many options as Singe has pointed out.
Damon: I'm done with work. I'll try and be on sometime tonight but have a drink date with some colleagues. Good luck.
Damon: When's the next Exile?
Damon: Tomorrow?
spies4Faizah: Saturday
Damon: Right. You guys have Thanksgiving.
spies4Faizah: :-)
spies4Faizah: where do you live?
Damon: Europe
spies4Faizah: UK?
Damon: No
spies4Faizah: oh ok, ttyl!
Damon: You know there's much more to Europe than the UK?
spies4Faizah: Yes, but I was asking because I have friends there.
spies4Faizah: Im not that dumb.
spies4Faizah: haha
Damon: I live in the Netherlands
Damon: Goedenacht......dag
spies4Faizah: ditto.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4kip: hey damon
spies4Damon: Hey Kip
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spies4Damon: Hey Kip
spies4kip: hey damon
spies4Damon: Apologies but my internet cut out.
spies4kip: ah no problem
spies4kip: it happens
spies4kip: hows it going?
spies4Damon: It's going good. Sometimes frustrated with the game but good. And trying to figure out transport options for tomorrow. I may not celebrate your Thanksgiving the same way but the American Book Center here has a big sale on Thanksgiving I just need to find a way to Amsterdam or Den Haag
spies4kip: :-)
spies4kip: im sure you'll figure it out
spies4kip: whats making you mad about the game though?
spies4Damon: Now that Candy has announced she is the Fatemaker everyone has started playing their cards close to their chests and are looking at her to make all the intelligent decisions.
spies4Damon: Group discussions have been suspended.
spies4Damon: And we're all being forced to play Candy's way and Candy's game. I know she thinks she's 'all that' but I don't and it's frustrating.
spies4kip: forget candy
spies4kip: her decision was to exile me
spies4Damon: And to be turthful I liked Bunni.
spies4kip: and half the people didnt listen to her
spies4kip: i like dbunni too
spies4Damon: Do you get the feeling that one or both of the Spies are in CAndy's Circle? Who else would benefit from Bunni leaving? Not you or me.
spies4Damon: The problem is too many listen.
spies4Damon: What's even more frustrating is when someone tries to post and Candy just lashes out at them for not being as perfect as her.
spies4Damon: I'm sorry to be unleashing all of these frustrations on you. But I don;t know whoe else to talk to that I can trust.
spies4Damon: Looks like you're stuck with me.
spies4kip: hey i agree with you
spies4kip: and as for exile
spies4kip: itsl ooking like faizah
spies4kip: hannah has an upward climb right now too
spies4Damon: Faizah tried to talk me out of it earlier. I felt like she was jumping the gun a little. Panic?
spies4kip: she knows shes in a rough spot
spies4Damon: She was sloppy chatting with me this afternoon. Not that she gave anything away or maybe I haven't spoken with her enough to note this. But she was all over the place with her ideas and discussions. Couldn't pin down one thing she believed and she was just up in the air on everything.
spies4Damon: You sitll with me ?
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spies4Damon: spies4kip: she knows shes in a rough spot
spies4Damon: She was sloppy chatting with me this afternoon. Not that she gave anything away or maybe I haven't spoken with her enough to note this. But she was all over the place with her ideas and discussions. Couldn't pin down one thing she believed and she was just up in the air on everything.
spies4Damon: You sitll with me ?
spies4Damon: My internet cut out again.
spies4kip: yeah i got the faizah part
spies4kip: spies4kip (5:41:49 PM): yeah
spies4kip (5:42:04 PM): if shes a spy she wants to seem open to everything
spies4kip: spies4kip (5:42:10 PM): and youre not on a lot
spies4kip (5:42:20 PM): so maybe she thinks she can talk you into voting with her
spies4Damon: Then she hadn't paid much attention.
spies4kip: lol
spies4kip: what you think about exiling her?
spies4Damon: Faizah? She's on my list but so are many people. I'd love to hear some discussion about it and bring to light some evidence but I think she's as good a choice as any at the moment. The other's I'd consider would be Singe, Leon or Hannah
spies4Damon: Not Hannah, Summer, Apologies
spies4kip: faizah was pushing leon a bit
spies4Damon: With me too, this afternoon.

spies4Candy: Damon
spies4Damon: Candy
spies4Candy: You going to bite my head off or can I say sup
spies4Damon: No. I'm too eager for tomorrow's sale at the American Book Center to do that
spies4Damon: I'm in the mood of a kid in the candy store if you'll pardon the pun
spies4Candy: Huh?
spies4Candy: CANDY
spies4Damon: Americans celebrate Thanksgiving? In honor of that the ABC is holding a sale.
spies4Candy: Books
spies4Candy: How exciting
spies4Candy: Yawn
spies4Damon: I find it exciting.
spies4Candy: Fantastic
spies4Candy: I dreamed last night you and Cain were twins
spies4Candy: And I dated you
spies4Damon: You would choose me over Cain?
spies4Candy: And then broke Cain's arm because he tried to go through my stuff
spies4Candy: I woke up nauseated that I dated you
spies4Damon: That's a very enchanting story. Maybe Disney will pick it up?
spies4Candy: True story
spies4Candy: You're no prince
spies4Candy: I would make a great princess though
spies4Damon: That I would not argue with.
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: So you catching up?
spies4Damon: I'm caught up.
spies4Damon: I told you what I was doing and you mocked me
spies4Candy: When?
spies4Damon: When I said I was trying to find a way to ABC?
spies4Damon: I need to get a ride with a friend who is going too or figure out what trains I need to take.
spies4Candy: Chauffer
spies4Candy: Chauffeur?
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Damon: Not all of us are nobility with riches, Princess.
spies4Candy: That sucks

spies4Singe: what's up, damon?
spies4Singe: learn anything interesting today? i guess we have 4 days to make up our minds
spies4Singe: or 3
spies4Damon: I learned that Faizah is panicking a little about thevote.
spies4Damon: Trying to find a way to Amsterdam or Den Haag tomorrow so I'm preoccupied with that lol
spies4Singe: hehe
spies4Damon: And Faizah can't make up her mind. I asked her about the Doc and her first response was that she didn't believe it followed by, in rapid succession, that she did believe it and wasn't sure who it would be.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Candy: Maybe 1 giant convo won't be as boring as 3
spies4Damon: It's always a pleasure to bore you.
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spies4Candy: He's in a feisty mood tonight
spies4Singe: There's not much to say
spies4Singe: Let's have the Exile tonight
spies4Candy: Sam's busy basting the turkey
spies4Candy: I'm working on my leaderboard
spies4Damon: Who's in a feisty mood?
spies4Candy: It's gonna be great
spies4kip: hes basting someone else
spies4Candy: Too bad I can't chop for shit
spies4Candy: You
spies4kip: damon
spies4Damon: Yes?
spies4Damon: I'm in a feisty mood because you rained on my ABC parade.
spies4Candy: So Damon
spies4Damon: So Candy
spies4Candy: Have fun erasing all of your Candy --------------s ?
spies4kip: ?
spies4Candy: On his little tic list
spies4Candy: He had like 20 by my name
spies4kip: pssh we all kno you lied and are a spy
spies4Singe: THATS NOT FUNNY
spies4Candy: That's why I imprisoned Bunni
spies4kip: thoguht so
spies4Candy: What's not funny?
spies4Singe: FINDING CANDY SUSPICIOUS IS NOT FUNNY
spies4kip: deal withit
spies4Singe: SPIES IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
spies4Candy: HAHA Kip
spies4kip: INTERNETS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
spies4Singe: damon, who do you think faizah's partner is?
spies4Candy: Who needs books?
spies4Candy: Do you need more fuel for your stove at your lodge?
spies4kip: ....
spies4Singe: this conversation is bound to be fruitful
spies4kip: candy is a fruit
spies4Candy: I'm a tart
spies4Singe: Damon, I'm the doctor
spies4Singe: Everyone fucking knows
spies4kip: candy is sour again....
spies4Singe: You'd might as well know
spies4Candy: You're full of shit
spies4kip: get it?
spies4kip: shes re tarted
spies4kip: >_>
spies4kip: <3
spies4Singe: Damon, get off the babysitter and scroll up
spies4Singe: ok candy so you told faizah
spies4Singe: that leaves hannah and leon who dont know
spies4Singe: so unless they're a pair
spies4Singe: EVERYONE knows
spies4Candy: Damon
spies4Singe: candy, when did you tell faizah I had a role?
spies4Damon: That all came in one big heap.
spies4Candy: Yesterday
spies4kip: singe is gonna die next imprisonment now :-(
spies4Candy: You shits wanted to exile me
spies4Singe: you wanted me dead?
spies4Candy: What was I supposed to do?
spies4kip: umm exile YOU?
spies4Candy: All 3 of you were working with a spy to exile me
spies4kip: not after you posted your role
spies4Candy: Before that
spies4Damon: I was working to exile you because I thought you were the damn Spy.
spies4Candy: Mistaki planted ideas in your heads and you all fell for it
spies4Candy: "Candy's lying about her mystery prize"
spies4Candy: "It must be an Orthodoxy spy power"
spies4kip: she did >_>
spies4Candy: "Candy's only going after Traditionalists"
spies4Damon: No, I believed yo uwere a Spy well before Misaki got his hands on me.
spies4Singe: we were right that the pieces didnt fit
spies4Candy: The pieces did fit
spies4Candy: my version checked out
spies4Singe: about that inv turn 2->turn 4
spies4kip: it fit cuz you were the fm
spies4Candy: You all were just under Mistaki's influence
spies4kip: no one else knew that
spies4Singe: naw
spies4Candy: You all believed the spy
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4kip: but cand
spies4kip: y
spies4kip: we all got that spy out
spies4Damon: All of us suspected you before Masaki did.
spies4Damon: And we were the ones who voted his ass out.
spies4Singe: you didnt even steer the discussion towards bev
spies4Candy: That's what you think
spies4kip: unlike you people who voted for me
spies4Singe: 2->4
spies4Singe: it didnt add up
spies4Candy: You weren't even here
spies4Candy: So stuff it
spies4Singe: i was 99% positive you learned of Bev = Spy on turn 4
spies4Candy: You don't know what conversations I tried to steer
spies4Candy: Because you weren't even here to have one with me
spies4Singe: i wasnt
spies4Singe: agreed
spies4Candy: DUh
spies4Damon: Is everything always so arguementative and bitchy with you?
spies4Singe: i based my opinion on forums
spies4kip: no damon, candy just has to control everything
spies4kip: shes pissed i stayed and masaki went even though im a cit and masaki is a spy
spies4Candy: I tried to get a Mistaki vote twice and you're all like "Oh ho we got him out"
spies4Damon: That much is obvious.
spies4Candy: Whatever, I did control that
spies4kip: you only voted masaki once
spies4Damon: I think she's jealous that we foiled her theory and plan.
spies4kip: and even thoen didnt have majority
spies4Candy: You didn't have majority for Leon
spies4Candy: It was 5-5
spies4kip: leon voted himself
spies4Singe: cause faizah protected him
spies4Candy: And I got more votes for Mistaki than you actually got for Leon
spies4Candy: I'm not jealous Damon
spies4Candy: I've played a better game than all 3 of you combined
spies4Candy: And EVERYONE knows it
spies4kip: lolololol
spies4Singe: hehe that was a good one
spies4Candy: Fact.
spies4kip: the orthos handed you a bev investigatiom
spies4Candy: And you know what?
spies4kip: cuz you were smart enough not ot pick yourself
spies4Candy: They all knew I had it
spies4Candy: I made it through 5 imprisonments
spies4Candy: How'd I do that?
spies4Candy: It should've been SO OBVIOUS that I was the fatemaker
spies4kip: cuz the spies used you
spies4Singe: I have a role and I'll probably outlive you
spies4Candy: The spies didn't use me buddy
spies4Singe: I AM A GOD
spies4Singe: Candy! What's Fatemaker XI?
spies4Candy: You're a dipshit who went on vacation for 2 weeks
spies4kip: candy i guarentee the orthos laughed their asses off about you in heir HQ
spies4Candy: And I don't know, Sam will tell me on Saturday
spies4kip: about how the got rid of the players you trusted
spies4kip: and let you lead exiles against the citizens
spies4Candy: Fatemaker X
spies4Candy: Yeah I lead 2
spies4Candy: Big deal
spies4Damon: It is a big deal.
spies4Candy: It's not
spies4Damon: Those were 2 Citizens we could've used.
spies4Candy: You all voted the way you wanted to
spies4kip: and the orthos voted with you
spies4kip: :-)
spies4Candy: Damon if you didn't think Jeremiah was a spy you shouldn't have voted for him
spies4Candy: Singe voted Ralph
spies4Candy: Kip voted Cain
spies4Damon: I wanted to vote Bev but I knew it wouldn't happen and yo uwere the one to convince me he was a Spy
spies4Candy: This is not my problem
spies4Damon: No but if you're going to take credit for the good you have to accept it for the bad since you seem to claim you've led the entire game and are the best ciitizen ever
spies4Singe: it's a complex game
spies4Candy: Well I have
spies4Singe: impossible to say who contributed exactly what
spies4Damon: That's my point.
spies4Candy: No Damon's point is, he hates me and he refuses to give me credit for anything
spies4Damon: You yourself have done nothing. Every asset you've produced in the game ahs come strictly from your Role.
spies4Candy: Because his ego is so huge
spies4kip: to say your the god of spies 4 is the most uptight and wrong thing i ever heard though
spies4Damon: Hello POT
spies4Candy: I am still here because I have worked my ass off
spies4Singe: you have
spies4Singe: agreed
spies4Candy: And you have gotten drunk in a lodge
spies4kip: im here cuz i worked my ass off last round
spies4Candy: And made little tick marks
spies4Damon: I don't drink.
spies4kip: and i got faizah to post on the board and outed her
spies4Candy: I'm talking to Damon not you Kip
spies4kip: ok
spies4Candy: OK now that Damon's simmering in his state of denial
spies4Candy: Might as well take advantage of the fact that he's actually here for once
spies4Damon: I'm not simmering. I'm trying to talk to my friends.
spies4Damon: I told that you from the start. I'm online to get a ride to Amsterdam or Den Haag
spies4Damon: But if you want to actually discuss the game instead of hiding all your cards against your chest then I am eager to do so.
spies4Candy: Exile
spies4kip: what about exile candy?
spies4Candy: Cute
spies4kip: who you wanna vote?
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Damon: Guess that was too much to hope for.
spies4kip: ?
spies4Singe: lol
spies4kip: so much for discussion exile
spies4Singe: i'll be amazed if this is actually your real-life persona
spies4Singe: Damon, you got the message that I'm the Bodyguard, correct?
spies4Candy: Damon's or mine?
spies4Singe: yours
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4kip: for one round anway
spies4Singe: I can't imagine this persona would allow you to have many friends
spies4kip: sigh
spies4Singe: So I'm guessing it's a construct.
spies4Candy: Lloyd gave himself a Catcher nic
spies4Candy: He's the STD catcher
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Candy: You'll find out when the game ends
spies4Singe: imp'd day 11
spies4kip: i thought we were talking about the game....
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Singe: what a raw deal
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Singe: do you have those macroed?
spies4Candy: I could've imprisoned him on day 7
spies4Singe: Whatever
spies4Singe: HAHA
spies4Singe: Whatever
spies4Singe: Deal with it
spies4Singe: Whatever
spies4Singe: I'm done with you
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: ALL HAIL KING SINGE
spies4Singe: oh shit it's Leon
spies4Singe: ]get his ass in here
spies4Singe: this oughta be good
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spies4Leon: Hola
spies4Singe: hey Leon
spies4Candy: I have the best boot icon for Lloyd
spies4Singe: Guess what!
spies4kip: ...
spies4Singe: Faizah's tossing you under the bus!
spies4kip: for exile
spies4Singe: VROOM
spies4kip: SCREACH
spies4Singe: she says if we kill you then we can kill her tomorrow
spies4Leon: huh?
spies4Leon: who are we killing?
spies4Singe: you
spies4Singe: Faizah has you as her #4 suspect
spies4Singe: me, damon, zander, then you
spies4Singe: but she wants YOU dead first
spies4Singe: whatcha think of that?
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spies4Candy: Still no Leon?
spies4kip: ...
spies4kip: hey leon!
spies4Singe: pfft
spies4kip: LEONELEONELEONOLONEOEOLNENEENLNOLEONENOEONONEEONE
spies4Candy: BEETLE
spies4kip: LEONLEONLNEOLNLNOELOELNOELNOELNOELNOELNOELNOELNOELNOENLOENLOELNOENL
spies4kip: lol neon
spies4kip: leon? more like peon
spies4kip: >_>
spies4Candy: Noel
spies4kip: ...
spies4Candy: I need to vandalize Adelaide somehow
spies4Candy: Oh
spies4Candy: I got it
spies4kip: what
spies4Candy: You'll see
spies4Candy: It's going to be brilliant
spies4kip: kkk
spies4Damon: Forgive me if I'm skeptical.
spies4kip: zing
spies4Leon: sorry
spies4Leon: the chat isnt making IM noises
spies4Singe: Candy, make Addy a tinfoil hat
spies4Leon: so I forgot to check it haha
spies4kip: faizah wants you out!
spies4kip: so bad she wants you out a week ago
spies4kip: but settling for the weekend
spies4kip: who wouldnt vote for you?
spies4Leon: Im not sure
spies4kip: she wants you out so bad she listed you twice in her suspect list
spies4kip: TWICE
spies4Singe: pwned
spies4Leon: haha
spies4kip: she knew bunni was gonna be impd though
spies4kip: so she put you in her place
spies4Leon: well, it may be because im suspecting her
spies4Leon: and she wants me out before I actually do find something big..., possibly
spies4kip: maybe
spies4kip: what you got on her so far?
spies4Leon: Just a few things I've noticed between the Exile 1,2, and 3 votes, with her and Angie voting together
spies4Leon: Also
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spies4Leon: a few things about that list you made Kip
spies4Damon: If she voted with Angie that long and then changed sides to play as Bev's pawn then it would've made sense for her to be an Ortho and cozy up to a suspected Trad?
spies4Damon: Or at least have someone to be able to point to and say "hey.. I was litening to her" rather than stand out.
spies4kip: yeha
spies4Leon: 4 people didnt suspect Hannah, and 2 people didnt suspect Faizah
spies4Leon: Summer, Singe, Zander, and Faizah didnt spect Hannah
spies4Leon: Zander and Hannah didnt suspect Faizah
spies4kip: zander doesnt count
spies4kip: i never asked zander
spies4kip: i had to look through old conversations
spies4Leon: then only Hannah didnt suspect Faizah
spies4Leon: Summer's not a spy most likely
spies4Leon: Singe, I doubt, but thats just me
spies4kip: she could be, i wouldnt rule it out
spies4kip: as of now though, shes not on my list
spies4Leon: since Fai and Hannah prolly xpected you to be exiled
spies4Leon: why give you the name of an actual spy?
spies4Leon: no one knew you were going to tally all these things up
spies4kip: even i thought i was going
spies4Leon: yeah
spies4Leon: so i doubt they wouldve given you an actual spy in there suspicions, even if you werent doing work before you were exiled
spies4Leon: because they'd want you to focus on who they suspected, and not someone else
spies4Leon: because you wouldnt have enough time for anyone else
spies4Leon: (like I said, they prolly didnt know you were askin everyone)
spies4Leon: sorry, im kinda rushing, but I gotta go
spies4Leon: :X
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spies4Damon: I should be going too.
spies4Damon: Enjoy your Thanksgiving!
spies4Damon: Dag
spies4Candy: Bye Damon
spies4Candy: Happy book buying
spies4Singe: bye Damonh

spies4Singe: I'm the Bodyguard. Any questions for me?
spies4Singe: talking in a room with Candy won't get us anywhere lol
spies4Damon: What's the Bodyguard?
spies4Damon: The Doctor?
spies4Singe: I've been protecting people from Imprisonment since Impris 2
spies4Damon: You're the one that Kip revealed.
spies4Singe: yes
spies4Damon: Thank fucking God
spies4Singe: lol
spies4Damon: Because I've been argueing with myself if I should be trusting you as much as I have been when you carry that many ticks on my list.
spies4Singe: heh
spies4Damon: At least I can do one thing right.
spies4Singe: Well, it could be a false claim.
spies4Damon: And yet I trust you 2.
spies4Damon: Dangerous of me.
spies4Singe: What makes you believe the claim is sound?
spies4Damon: I trust Kip. Kip says you have a Role I believe him. My gut says that it's true. My gut says to trust you. Maybe its not stirct evidence but it's enough for me at this stage when I want someone to trust and even despite her Role claim I can't trust Candy
spies4Damon: What made you tell me?
spies4Damon: Singe?
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spies4Damon: spies4Singe: What makes you believe the claim is sound?
spies4Damon: I trust Kip. Kip says you have a Role I believe him. My gut says that it's true. My gut says to trust you. Maybe its not stirct evidence but it's enough for me at this stage when I want someone to trust and even despite her Role claim I can't trust Candy
spies4Damon: What made you tell me?
spies4Damon: Singe?
spies4Singe: hi
spies4Damon: Hi
spies4Singe: I told you because i've evaluated you with regard to the claim
spies4Singe: and you always came across sincere
spies4Singe: spies4Singe: I've kept it secret long enough.
spies4Singe: I've been feeling out people
spies4Singe: because the spies KNOW the role exists
spies4Singe: every imprisonment they've been told:
spies4Singe: "You may not imprison the following people: ..."
spies4Singe: that's me that's been protecting
spies4Singe: and amazingly i'm not dead yet
spies4Damon: You evaluated me how?
spies4Singe: asking you abou tthe role
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Singe: the spies are pretending they dont know it exists
spies4Singe: even though they know its real
spies4Singe: make sense?
spies4Damon: Yes
spies4Damon: Which would explain Faizah's behavior this afternoon maybe
spies4Singe: what in particular?
spies4Singe: her waffling?
spies4Damon: Over it's existence, yes.
spies4Singe: right
spies4Singe: that's what i've been looking for
spies4Singe: she and summer have been the weirdest about it
spies4Damon: That's a pretty fair assessment. I haven't done a lot of asking, only FAizah when you asked me to today
spies4Singe: well, hopefully Faizah will come up Spy
spies4Singe: it's really looking that way
spies4Damon: I'd really like to hear more of the Why
spies4Singe: why what?
spies4Singe: why tell you?
spies4Damon: Why Faizah
spies4Singe: from my confessional:
spies4Singe: ""Tentative vote: Faizah.

She's scrambling, she left Bunni off her suspects list that she sent Candy, she was taunting Bunni last night as if she KNEW Bunni was on the way out the door, and she hasn't played very pro-Cit. She POSSIBLY protected Leon at IX-1 by voting me. She has me as her #1 suspect but wants to Exile LEON at XI!

Many more reasons, but I'll try to do a balanced analysis between now and Saturday.""
spies4Damon: Thank you

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Summer: Hi Damon
spies4Damon: Hi Summer
spies4Summer: Are you stuffed with turkey as well?
spies4Damon: I don't live in America.
spies4Summer: Oh wow!
spies4Summer: Really?
spies4Damon: Ever wonder about my strange hours? I'm in Europe.
spies4Summer: Oh wow
spies4Summer: That is so cool!
spies4Summer: I've never been to Europe!
spies4Damon: If you ever make the trip stay away from the tourist traps: London, Prague, Madrid, Paris......
spies4Summer: Oh no I would go to all of those
spies4Summer: I would.
spies4Summer: I want to travel all over and see everything.
spies4Damon: You'll miss the real flavor of Europe.
spies4Summer: I wouldn't go only to the "tourist traps" :-)
spies4Damon: As long as you see the rest
spies4Summer: But I can't imagine traveling to Europe and not going to Madrid or Paris ...
spies4Summer: You're really lucky
spies4Summer: How do you speak English so well?
spies4Summer: Your English is almost more formal than mine
spies4Damon: It was my first language?
spies4Summer: Oh
spies4Summer: Wow
spies4Summer: I have a million questions I want to ask you, after the game, then
spies4Summer: Would that be okay?
spies4Damon: After the game then
spies4Summer: Yay
spies4Damon: Absolutely
spies4Summer: Now I have something to look forward to.
spies4Damon: Let's finish off the Spies and get there quick
spies4Summer: Yes :-)
spies4Summer: Singe seems very convinced Faizah is a spy
spies4Damon: I'm leaning the same way but I'm not sold yet.
spies4Summer: Have you talked with her much during the game? I don't know if your hours have overlapped.
spies4Summer: I don't think she's ever mentioned you.
spies4Damon: I spoke with her recently and the way she behaved raised concern for me.
spies4Summer: What happened?
spies4Damon: I basically saw a lot of Masaki, new Kip and Singe.
spies4Damon: She couldn't seem to make up her mind about anything and her arguements had little foundation. It was worrisome.
spies4Summer: Yes, those 3 are/were online a great deal
spies4Damon: I sometimes see Candy which tends not to be fun at all. And Hannah. She's European too.
spies4Summer: *Giggle* She yelled at me the last time we talked and I wanted to tell her to calm down and remind her that I've been on her side the whole time.
spies4Summer: She's not the nicest person in the game
spies4Summer: But her ideas so far have been on track, and she's a confirmed citizen
spies4Damon: I wouldn't say that her ideas have been on track but she is a confirmed citizen.
spies4Summer: One thing I've noticed about Faizah is she hasn't tried making a case defending herself
spies4Summer: We know she can make one because she did it for Bunni in Bunni's trial
spies4Damon: That is a huge pet peeve of mine.
spies4Summer: Yes, it was something I didn't like about Cain either
spies4Summer: If you're not a spy, say so and why.
spies4Summer: You did
spies4Damon: I had no problem doing it either.
spies4Damon: If you're a Cit you need to make that effort.
spies4Damon: Or else why do we want you around anyways? If yo ucan't defend yourself what more are you besides a vote at that point?
spies4Summer: Someone (I don't remember who) made the point that Faizah has tried to make herself just that
spies4Summer: A vote
spies4Damon: That is all she has been.
spies4Summer: I agree
spies4Summer: Once Beverly was exiled she did a 180* on me
spies4Damon: It seems suspicious to me. And if it's not then she's played a poor game.
spies4Summer: I went from someone she immensely disliked and a top suspect to her newest best friend
spies4Summer: What reservations do you have on Faizah?
spies4Summer: One thing that makes me hesitant is I can picture her with Hannah, but she and Hannah partnered together in the second family groupings
spies4Damon: WIFOM?
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: Well why did you partner with Adelaide and Leon?
spies4Damon: I trusted Adelaide and thought she had a lot of good ideas. Leon joined us and I don't recall why.
spies4Summer: If I remember correctly, Masaki and Zander kicked him out
spies4Summer: I could be wrong
spies4Damon: That might have been it. Adelaide and I were friends so it made sense for us but there was no one else to join us.
spies4Summer: Okay
spies4Summer: I apologize for being a bit spacey. I'm trying to work on a paper at the same time.
spies4Damon: It's fine. I am too. Watching T.V. It's past midnight.
spies4Summer: Fortunately for you it's Sunday
spies4Damon: Why is that fortunate?
spies4Summer: I'm just not sure what you're thinking right now about the game and I'm not sure which questions are the right questions to ask you
spies4Summer: Because it's not a work day
spies4Damon: Ask anything you want. I'll do my best to answer them all.
spies4Summer: Well I'd rather have a conversation than an interrogation :-)
spies4Summer: I don't like it when Singe bombards me with questions. It makes me feel like I've done something wrong.
spies4Summer: But I will ask.
spies4Damon: You don't see me enough to get to enjoy a real conversation
spies4Summer: Yes ... which is a shame because I like you.
spies4Summer: Do you think Leon or Faizah is more suspicious?
spies4Damon: At the moment? Faizah. Leon is still on my short list but she's done less while still doing more.
spies4Summer: What makes you wary of exiling Faizah?
spies4Summer: Any - marks on your sheet?
spies4Damon: You care about my sheet? Most people make fun of it.
spies4Damon: Really just Candy
spies4Summer: Yes, I care
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: It's a logical and organized way of keeping track of thins
spies4Summer: My one criticism of it is that you only include board things
spies4Damon: I didn't have much else to go on.
spies4Summer: That's partially what I mean.
spies4Damon: And I'm used to only playing board games.
spies4Damon: There's no non Spy marks on FAziah, just Spy ones.
spies4Summer: What marks do you have on Faizah?
spies4Damon: Diva Group / Early Exile voting record / Sheep tendences / No defense
spies4Summer: Damon, did you vote in Hannah's poll?
spies4Summer: Poll Question: Who do u think is most probably a spy out of everyone left?
spies4Damon: The most recent poll?
spies4Summer: Yes
spies4Damon: I voted Faizah.
spies4Summer: Thank you. I was just wondering.
spies4Summer: I can't vote for Faizah
spies4Summer: I am considering throwing my vote away on Candy
spies4Summer: Just in case anything changes at the last minute, I don't want my vote to help Faizah.
spies4Damon: I don't blame you.
spies4Summer: What would you do in my position?
spies4Damon: It's a safe bet that Candy won't leave. That's a safe vote to toss away.
spies4Summer: I don't want any accidental ties like last episode ...
spies4Summer: Though that one really did work out in our favor
spies4Damon: I happen to think so
spies4Summer: :-)
spies4Summer: If only we had secured his exile in 9-1
spies4Summer: At least you vote and post 2 conversations every episode
spies4Summer: Leon and Abrams ... there's no excuse
spies4Damon: It's not as difficult as they make it out to be.
spies4Summer: It really isn't
spies4Summer: I'm exhasperated with it though
spies4Summer: Leon was on this afternoon, so we talked about turkey
spies4Summer: Then I finally got him to talk about the game and he had to leave
spies4Summer: I should finish working on my paper though
spies4Damon: Do you need to leave?
spies4Summer: Yes ... I promised myself I'd only talk to you for 15 minutes and it turned into half an hour :-)
spies4Summer: No
spies4Summer: 45 minutes
spies4Summer: Have a good night Damon
spies4Damon: You too Summer

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Zander: Hey there
spies4Damon: Hello Zander
spies4Zander: how's it going?
spies4Damon: Pretty good. You?
spies4Zander: Busy but good I guess
spies4Zander: not looking forward to the bus ride ahead of me haha
spies4Damon: How long would it be?
spies4Zander: 6 hours
spies4Zander: but there will probably be more delays than I was told
spies4Damon: Where did you go for the weekend?
spies4Zander: home
spies4Damon: I suppose that's descriptive enough
spies4Zander: sorry lol
spies4Zander: I go to college at Syracuse University in ny
spies4Zander: I live in Pennsylvania
spies4Zander: so it's a ways away
spies4Damon: I imagine it would be.
spies4Zander: yeah
spies4Zander: so what are your thoughts on tonight's exile?
spies4Damon: I don't think Faizah has made much of an effort in her defense and it was given a little too late. I think she's the most likely in this group.
spies4Zander: Yeah I've had my vote on her for a while
spies4Zander: I was just talking to Kip and we both feel that if she is a spy, then hannah is most likely her partner
spies4Damon: I think this is less of a band wagon than she'd like to think. I think most have made up their own minds.
spies4Damon: I think so too.
spies4Zander: Yeah it's not really a bandwagon when you're the biggest suspect lol. I wouldn't consider this anything like Cain
spies4Damon: Not at all.
spies4Zander: people voted for Cain cause others told them to. We're a lot farther along at this point and there's a lot more evidence and reason to suspect Faizah than there was Cain
spies4Damon: I'm in complete agreement.

spies4Singe: Hey Damon, whatcha think of Faizah's last minute defense?
spies4Damon: Weak.
spies4Damon: I think it was too little, too late, all circumstantial.
spies4Singe: guess we'll see
spies4Damon: If she really wanted to prove her innocnece it shold've happened earlier and not relied on us voting her out next round.
spies4Singe: yeah
spies4Damon: What was your opinion?>
spies4Singe: rereading now, at first it swayed me a little
spies4Damon: Really?
spies4Singe: yeah, it looks a little like genuine bitterness to me
spies4Damon: It's thes ame problem with Cain then and it will be her own fault if she's a Citizen and ruined this Exile for us.
spies4Singe: yeah except no one's defending her at all
spies4Singe: a few defended Cain
spies4Damon: Yup. Good observation. I didn't think about that.
spies4Singe: her spypartner's running away at mach 4 lol
spies4Damon: I don't blame them