Post by Candy on Nov 26, 2007 23:33:56 GMT -5
spies4Zander: hi whore
spies4Candy: Hey
spies4Candy: I was just reading that chat transcript from when you were drunk off your ass and telling me that you'd never talk to me again if I was a spy
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: Well good thing I can talk to you again
spies4Candy: It's probably the most pathetic thing I've read all game. You were so fucked up emotionally that night
spies4Candy: And you couldn't type
spies4Zander: Shut up. You love me.
spies4Candy: Sometimes
spies4Candy: Early on I despised you
spies4Candy: I loved that MAGIC BOY pissed you off
spies4Candy: Then Gordy told me you were a citizen and I figured I had to be nice to you
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: You didn't have to be
spies4Zander: you wanted to be
spies4Candy: Meh
spies4Candy: I'm not nice to Damon
spies4Candy: And I am pretty sure he's a citizen
spies4Zander: yeah cause you don't want to be nice to him
spies4Candy: Well I was nice to Faizah and Abrams and Johan etc. because they played into my plans and I needed them
spies4Zander: I'm not gonna lie, him posting in the burg "And I was a citizen" and striking it through and retracting his statements doesn't seem like the most citizen thing ever. But obviously he's not at the top of my list right now
spies4Zander: Well you weren't nice to me because I "fell into your plans" cause I play by my rules, not yours :-P
spies4Candy: You think that but I know better
spies4Zander: suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
spies4Candy: We'll talk about that after the game
spies4Zander: Have I ever voted how you wanted me to or told me to?
spies4Candy: Votes aren't the only thing I needed
spies4Zander: Well what else did you need? People to trust you?
spies4Candy: That's one
spies4Zander: I trusted you of my own accord. Whether you wanted me to or not is objectional
spies4Candy: Too bad I didn't detail all of this in my confessional
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: well I'm excited to see how you used me through the game *rolls eyes*
spies4Candy: You won't because it's not there in print
spies4Candy:
spies4Zander: You'll tell me
spies4Candy: After the game
spies4Candy: Do you try to think 3 episodes ahead?
spies4Candy: My background is in survivor games
spies4Candy: I'm always 3 episodes ahead
spies4Candy: But I never fucking make it to the f2
spies4Zander: I know, you told me that. You play spies like you play chess
spies4Zander: Sometimes I plan ahead but I can't ONLY do that
spies4Candy: I've been f3 so many times
spies4Zander: like I suspected Mistaki instantly and really had targets on him but I didn't want to pursue it cause I knew in the future there'd be actual evidence and in the meantime i could spend a few weeks observing other stuff... In that vague sense then I planned ahead
spies4Zander: but generally I don't plan ahead that much
spies4Candy: Like everyone's like "Oh I know what Sam would do so that's how we'll get spies"
spies4Candy: And like fuck whatever
spies4Candy: "He likes balance"
spies4Candy: So why are 5 of our spies girls hmmm?
spies4Candy: "He'd never cast someone as a spy twice"
spies4Candy: How the fuck do you know what he'd do
spies4Candy: Etc
spies4Candy: "He'd never cast Judith as a spy"
spies4Candy: WRONG
spies4Candy: Oops should've left it at eetc
spies4Candy: etc
spies4Candy: I should chill
spies4Candy: Chill Candy girl.
spies4Candy: Honestly I'm just pissed at Damon.
spies4Candy: So
spies4Candy: Leon or Pudgette
spies4Zander: Pudgette
spies4Candy: For real?
spies4Candy: I thought you were on the Leon side
spies4Candy: Not that this is really about sides come on there's only 1 spy left
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: I did suspect Leon 2nd most until Faizah turned up spy
spies4Zander: I still suspect him but not more than Hannah
spies4Candy: Leon's second on my list
spies4Candy: So let's talk about Pudgette
spies4Candy: Trade notes
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Candy: Because my notes say Faizah and Angelica changed their votes in exile 2 to save Hannah
spies4Zander: Well the obvious is that she followed you and trusted Faizah pretty openly... She wanted to save Faizah
spies4Candy: Faizah the cliquey clicked with Hannah?
spies4Candy: Come on, as if
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: But I don't like how Hannah takes a back seat to things
spies4Zander: I mean Leon does too but totally differently
spies4Candy: Leon THINKS he's in total control
spies4Zander: She seems so proactive but then lets you (no offense) tell her exactly what to do
spies4Zander: it's gaining favor
spies4Candy: Like Leon's all like "No I know who the spies are and I've beem making lots of theories" forgetting that he never actually tells anyone anything useful and that we all think he's a stupid blind beetle
spies4Zander: Leon's past identity was a total moron. Leon is no different. I'm wary to call him a spy cause everyone keeps saying the orthos were brilliant (which I don't agree with, I just think the majority of us are stupid and couldn't catch them on our own), so if the orthos are brilliant then... he certainly isn't
spies4Candy: No the Orthodoxy aren't brilliant
spies4Candy: Youc an only exile 1 spy at a time
spies4Candy: The Traditionalists just came first
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: I'm serious
spies4Zander: My list right now is... Hannah, Leon, Summer, Damon, and nobody else lol
spies4Candy: Mine is just Pudgette and Beetle
spies4Zander: I know you and Singe are confirmed at this point and I absolutely do not suspect Kip
spies4Zander: If we're wrong about Hannah I will be genuinely surprised
spies4Candy: Yeah I was probably wrong on Kip. He was on my trusted list for a long time
spies4Candy: I switched only because of the investigation and my strong Singe suspicions
spies4Candy: Didn't have anything to do with Kip himself
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Zander: I just never felt like Kip was worth the sacrifice especially something so questionable
spies4Candy: Whatever, I still would have stood by my actions
spies4Zander: and I kinda trusted him too so why get rid of someone I don't suspect
spies4Zander: It wasn't dumb of you to keep your conviction
spies4Candy: Thanks
spies4Candy: I'm not one of those people who makes excuses
spies4Candy: I take full responsibility for pushing Cain and Jeremiah's exiles
spies4Candy: I fucke dup
spies4Candy: But I made the best decisions based on the info I had at the time and I stand by it
spies4Candy: Anyway Pudgette and Faizah definitely used me
spies4Zander: If you got rid of people you suspected why walk around regretting it
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: Well, they hid behind me
spies4Candy: I love how when everyone was like "I suspect Candy" they were so strongly "I trust Candy"
spies4Candy: There's some truth to what Kip said
spies4Zander: I messed up with Martha and Grace, but after that I got on a roll. I'm not gonna sit here grieving about Week 1 and 2... And I still dunno if Summer is a spy so I can't judge Week 3
spies4Candy: I talked about this with Singe last night
spies4Candy: About Summer
spies4Zander: What about it?
spies4Candy: I strongly believe she's not a spy
spies4Candy: Like I pointed this out to him
spies4Candy: Go look at Faizah's critiques
spies4Candy: I think she wrote one of them
spies4Candy: You can tell by the style
spies4Candy: Tell me if you think I'm right
spies4Zander: Let me check quick
spies4Zander: From where I'm standing, - This one?
spies4Candy: I was thinking the cliquey one
spies4Zander: I thought that sounded like YOU lol
spies4Candy: No mine is right under it
spies4Candy: FEEL
spies4Candy: That one
spies4Zander: ahhh
spies4Zander: I was in between those two for you
spies4Candy: HAHA you think I'm a good writer like that
spies4Candy: Kickass
spies4Zander: No I just figured you might be elusive in your critiques
spies4Zander: hmm...
spies4Zander: I dunno about the critique though, it's challenging Faizah to grow a pair, but not really leaning towards one side of spy or the other. She's, as she is saying, just calling her out
spies4Candy: That one not so much because I told the exact thing nearly word for word to Pudgette. I just copied and pasted a little for the critique because I thought it sounded good
spies4Candy: For being a spy
spies4Candy: Oh also
spies4Candy: You know the 2 people I PMed?
spies4Candy: About the Bev investigation
spies4Zander: I don't know them but I just read that "Candy's Trusted Two" thread Singe made
spies4Candy: I told Singe last night so he's probably todl everyone by now
spies4Candy: I PMed Johan and Singe
spies4Candy: I mean
spies4Candy: Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: But ADELAIDE was imprisoned over me? Come on.
spies4Candy: The Orthodoxy gave the Fatemaker the investigation, they had to have known where it came from
spies4Candy: She's smarter than that
spies4Candy: Pudgette and Faizah not so much
spies4Zander: I guess, but in the same sense...
spies4Candy: It doesn't even matter because we're hitting Pudgette and if not her then Leon
spies4Candy: I don't need to sell you on Summer
spies4Zander: It's possible the spies were working together in some sense? Didn't want you to know more spy identities
spies4Zander: lol no you don't
spies4Zander: If we're wrong about those two I really will scream though
spies4Candy: We're not.
spies4Candy: Did you see what I posted on Adelaide's dream lists?
spies4Zander: No
spies4Zander: where is that?
spies4Candy: spies4.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=theburg88ajv&action=display&thread=1196129828
spies4Zander: Wait, I'm confused right now
spies4Zander: You just said you PMed Summer and Johan about your bev investigation
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Zander: that was your mystery gift, right?
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: I lied
spies4Candy: My mystery gift was my head on a robot
spies4Zander: so you were guessing that bev was a spy?
spies4Candy: I lied about it at the time
spies4Candy: Because I wanted to use it to confirm Lloyd
spies4Zander: and then you investigated her?
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: I'm the Fatemaker, bitch
spies4Candy: Episode 4
spies4Candy: Fatemaking question: Who do you want the Fatemaker to investigate?
spies4Candy: Traditionalists: Investigate Candy
spies4Candy: Orthodoxy: Investigate Bev
spies4Candy: I chose Bev, duh
spies4Candy: Sam: She's a spy
spies4Candy: Me: Oh my god
spies4Candy: Me: PM Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: Me: Lie to the burg
spies4Zander: So you PMed them AFTER that investigation...
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Zander: But that doesn't make sense with you saying Summer wouldn't have picked Bev for you to investigate
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: That's not what I said
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Candy: Start over
spies4Candy: Timeline:
spies4Zander: When you said it before it sounded like she had prior knowledge you had investigated Bev
spies4Candy: She would
spies4Candy: If she was an Orthodoxy spy
spies4Candy: Timeline
spies4Candy: Each spy group is told the question
spies4Candy: Traditionalists send the Fatemaker my name, Orthodoxy sends the Fatemaker Beverly's name
spies4Candy: OK?
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: Then Emma got imprisoned and we exiled Angelica
spies4Candy: Then I sent out a PM to Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: "Hi it's me Candy, I investigated Bev, she's a spy"
spies4Zander: ok...
spies4Candy: Then the Orthodoxy tried to imprison Gordy
spies4Candy: NOT me
spies4Candy: Then I went public but I lied left and right "I know what Bev is because of my mystery prize"
spies4Candy: The Orthodoxy's next impisonment 2 episodes later was for Adelaide
spies4Candy: And what I'm saying is
spies4Candy: Summer's not that stupid
spies4Zander: gotcha
spies4Zander: I understand what you're saying and it makes sense but it's not enough to really clear her - she knows how you don't really distrust her. But anyway, I don't think there's much reason to focus on that. I really think Hannah's the last spy
spies4Candy: Me too
spies4Zander: Singe is very forceful on Leon
spies4Candy: Well he has good reasons
spies4Zander: did he tell you I was on the Leon side or something? lol
spies4Candy: No you did
spies4Candy: You said you suspected Mistaki Leon and Damon
spies4Zander: when?
spies4Zander: That was Week 9
spies4Zander: Faizah turning out to be a spy basically confirms Leon or Hannah as her spy partner, but in my eyes Hannah much more so
spies4Zander: especially since she fell for what you told her
spies4Zander: There's a difference between trusting someone...
spies4Zander: and just trying to save someone
spies4Zander: We know Hannah's smart too, she should want to think on her own
spies4Zander: but she basically did what you told her to for a while
spies4Candy: spies4hannah (9:32:07 PM): sigh, this vote has had me so torn
spies4Candy: This gets me
spies4Candy: Because what's there to be torn about? It's not like there was a tie
spies4Candy: But she hoped there would be one when she IMed me
spies4Zander: That's what I was thinking
spies4Zander: If she trusted Faizah that much there was no reason for her to be torn. And if she suspected Kip that much there was no reason for her to be torn
spies4Zander: It's like alterior motive for being torn, when... it's really cut and dry
spies4Candy: She didn't say "good" when Faizah was revealed to be a spy ... HAHA
spies4Zander: SHE DIDN'T TELL ME WHEN FAIZAH WAS REVEALED TO BE A SPY
spies4Zander: omg.
spies4Zander: I asked her to keep me updated
spies4Candy: Really?
spies4Zander: she was giving me like really, really vague and bare bones facts
spies4Candy: Depressed?
spies4Zander: "3 votes for Faizah so far. Sumemr threw away her vote for Candy. 6 votes for Faizah, she's gone"
spies4Zander: "Is she a spy? Who didn't vote for her?"
spies4Zander: "I'll telly you if she was or not when I find out... And I voted for Kip."
spies4Zander: then nothing else
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (10:06:33 PM): FAIZAH IS A SPY!!!!
spies4Singe (10:06:37 PM): woot!@
spies4Summer (10:06:41 PM): YES!
spies4Singe (10:06:44 PM): nice job guys
spies4Leon (10:06:45 PM): wooooohooooo
spies4hannah (10:06:49 PM): * didnt see that coming
spies4Candy: Was she happy when Mistaki left? Let's check
spies4Zander: No reason to her voting for Kip either
spies4Zander: just factually saying "And I voted for Kip"
spies4Candy: Oh she wasn't there for Mistaki's
spies4Candy: She knew she was getting votes in exile 2 because Faizah told her
spies4Candy: My personal reason is that I was in bevs family so could not vote her, but Candy convinced me that she was a spy and thus i threw away my vote in the hopes that Bev would get the majority of votes. I still suspect Naomi however.
spies4Candy: An Orthodoxy spy definitely would
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (9:35:41 PM): BEVERLY
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:42 PM): IS
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:43 PM): A
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:46 PM): SPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies4Candy (9:35:49 PM): I fucking
spies4Gordy (9:35:49 PM): wtf?!
spies4Candy (9:35:50 PM): Told
spies4Leon (9:35:50 PM): woooo
spies4hannah (9:35:50 PM): YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
spies4Candy: She was happy
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: I'm sure she was happy abotu Masaki - she voted him
spies4Candy: Did I show you this?
spies4Candy: Oh
spies4Candy: Singe posted it
spies4Candy: Faizah PMed me her suspect list
spies4Zander: Yeah I read that
spies4Candy: Hannah at the bottom
spies4Candy: Beetle only at #4 but she wanted to exile him anyway
spies4Candy: She thought we were going to work together with Hannah to save her
spies4Candy: "I really need you to talk to Summer and Hannah."
spies4Candy: She didn't talk to Hannah herself?
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: ridiculously odd
spies4Candy: But Hannah was so torn
spies4Zander: Poor Hannah
spies4Candy: Hey
spies4Candy: When I revealed Bev I told people to BACK OFF and be nice
spies4Candy: Just because someone's a spy doesn't mean you can rag on them
spies4Candy: So yeah
spies4Candy: Poor Hannah
spies4Zander: lol I'm not
spies4Candy: Nah I didn't mean just you
spies4Candy: Or you
spies4Candy: You like her
spies4Zander: There is a difference between sarcasm and ragging :-P
spies4Zander: She's nice
spies4Zander: Very early on I liked her
spies4Candy: You with the likings
spies4Zander: I KNOW
spies4Zander:
spies4Candy: Is this your character or are you like this in RL too?
spies4Zander: I've played most of this game as RL
spies4Zander: I'm not good with keeping in character. I do it for like 2 days and then lose it
spies4Zander: The dreamcatcher thing confuses me - you say he's unsure of who the other 2 people are but you list Damon lol
spies4Candy: He said MAYBE Damon
spies4Zander: ah
spies4Candy: I'm piecing together what he told me the 3 times I asked him
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: stupid strep throat
spies4Candy: Huh?
spies4Zander: I think I'm getting strep
spies4Candy: WTF
spies4Zander: all of a sudden my throat is killing me
spies4Candy: Did you kiss anyone with strep on the bus?
spies4Zander: Yes.
spies4Candy: Maybe a bug flew in your throat
spies4Zander: The hick next to me.
spies4Zander: We made out for 47 minutes
spies4Zander: Then he touched my penis and I stopped.
spies4Candy: 47?
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Zander: I timed it
spies4Zander: Then when I got back to clown school he facebooked me
spies4Zander: Don't act like your surprised
spies4Candy: I have a new sigline
spies4Zander: You've been waiting for that for WEEKS
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: It was just tiem for a change
spies4Zander: False.
spies4Candy: I could put something different in
spies4Zander: Ugh I have to do these memory things? No likey
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: WHY DONES'T ANYONE IN THIS GAME LISTNE
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Candy: That would be a good one
spies4Zander: Well, why donest' they?
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: JOHAN TALKED TO ME IN PRIVATE
spies4Zander: IF I WAS A SPY I WOULD NEVER IMPRISON HIM
spies4Candy: I wonder what you talked about in private
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: YOU'RE A WHORE
spies4Zander: YOU THINK I'M A SPY? FUCK YOU AS HARD AS CAN BE
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: oh my god I was ridiculous
spies4Zander: I don't even remember parts of that
spies4Candy: Oh I do
spies4Candy: I do!
spies4Zander: I'm sure you do
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: YOU PROMISED ME MASAKI WOUDL GO NEXT AND NOW YOU TARGET SINGE. I SWEAR TO GOD HE'S A SPY AND NOONE LISTENS TO ME
spies4Zander: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SIDE AND I WORK SO HARD AND NO ONE DCARES
spies4Zander: Which memories do I have / care about
spies4Zander: the mini mafia game...
spies4Candy: Where you failed pathetically
spies4Zander: I didn't fail pathetically
spies4Zander: think about this
spies4Zander: OMG revelation!
spies4Zander: The last mafia was me, and the last 3 innocents were Bunni, Beverly, and Faizah... Do you think Bev and Faizah were working together to win the whole time or something?
spies4Zander: it's a long shot but maybe
spies4Zander: Cause I had no chance of winning even before that round - the 3 divas were working together and somehow all knew each other was innocent
spies4Candy: You didn't imprison them
spies4Candy: Your own fault
spies4Zander: I was just speculating about them working as spies - calm your shit, sir
spies4Candy: You were outsmarted by girls
spies4Zander: Fact.
spies4Zander: I was also outsmarted by two spies
spies4Candy: On opposite sides
spies4Zander: Too bad that's the only time all game that happened. HAH.
spies4Zander: Well except when Bev convinced me she was telling the truth about her role...
spies4Zander: but that's once.
spies4Candy: PWNT
spies4Zander: Yeah I definitely just wrecked myself.
spies4Zander: Memory Wall - Boring
spies4Zander: blah blah...
spies4Zander: How much do you want to bet Leon doesn't do it lol
spies4Candy: Oh I don't even know if I want him to
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: poor guy... deep down I still don't want to think he's a spy
spies4Candy: Because he's a turd?
spies4Zander: Not really
spies4Zander: I dunno, I always get that small gut feeling that I'm wrong on suspecting him... but I've been wrong before, could be again.
spies4Candy: Enough with the gut
spies4Candy: I haven't gone on gut all game
spies4Zander: The gut got me Mistaki
spies4Candy: Eh
spies4Candy: Fine
spies4Zander: Eh yourself
spies4Candy: Read what I posted for ep 4
spies4Candy: That was one of my fav moments
spies4Zander: LMAO I love that conversation
spies4Candy: ME TOO
spies4Candy: See
spies4Candy: This is fun
spies4Candy: Oh one other thing
spies4Candy: You know that alliance you had?
spies4Candy: 1) It was to out Naomi, who the Orthodoxy spies knew about
spies4Candy: 2) Hannah pulled Faizah in
spies4Zander: omg
spies4Zander: I completely forgot that
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: And then things got NUTS! Faizah, who before was like "Bev's a spy!" was now like "I trust Bev!" and Damon was like "I'm not going to decide my vote until 30 minutes before exile" and Adelaide was like "Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev" and Kip and Singe were like "I'm on vacation" and Zander was like "I had a 4 hour convo with Bev and she convinced me she's a citizen" and Cain was like "I am going to give the tiebreaker to Bev!" and Naomi was like "Did I mention I voted Damon" and I was like "Johan why are these people driving me nuts?" and Johan was like "There there Candy I believe you" and everything worked out.
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Candy: I forgot about Mistaki
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: and Mistaki was like "I'm not voting Bev but I want you to swear on your life and your firstborn child that you will do what I tell you to do and vote Naomi next"
spies4Candy: Oh also
spies4Candy: Let's say you were a spy
spies4Candy: And your partner spy was getting voted out
spies4Candy: Would this be what you'd ask?
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:54:17 PM): wait Sam, i have a quick question
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:54:44 PM): when someone's Imprisoned, are they killed?
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (9:54:58 PM): metaphorically =)
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:55:35 PM): just curious, cause Gordy was hit over the head with a hard object, hard enough for him to bloody his shirt, but he came back 2 rounds later
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:56:00 PM): it would have to be a big blood puddle for it to get from his head to his shirt...
spies4Zander: omg you talk to much :-P
spies4Candy: Me?
spies4Zander: I was joking - I went away and there was a lot of stuff ehre lol
spies4Candy: I get the feeling Hannah's only doctored a few stuff
spies4Candy: Because she keeps posting the same bits
spies4Candy: CANDY OUT
spies4Candy: Hey
spies4Candy: I was just reading that chat transcript from when you were drunk off your ass and telling me that you'd never talk to me again if I was a spy
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: Well good thing I can talk to you again
spies4Candy: It's probably the most pathetic thing I've read all game. You were so fucked up emotionally that night
spies4Candy: And you couldn't type
spies4Zander: Shut up. You love me.
spies4Candy: Sometimes
spies4Candy: Early on I despised you
spies4Candy: I loved that MAGIC BOY pissed you off
spies4Candy: Then Gordy told me you were a citizen and I figured I had to be nice to you
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: You didn't have to be
spies4Zander: you wanted to be
spies4Candy: Meh
spies4Candy: I'm not nice to Damon
spies4Candy: And I am pretty sure he's a citizen
spies4Zander: yeah cause you don't want to be nice to him
spies4Candy: Well I was nice to Faizah and Abrams and Johan etc. because they played into my plans and I needed them
spies4Zander: I'm not gonna lie, him posting in the burg "And I was a citizen" and striking it through and retracting his statements doesn't seem like the most citizen thing ever. But obviously he's not at the top of my list right now
spies4Zander: Well you weren't nice to me because I "fell into your plans" cause I play by my rules, not yours :-P
spies4Candy: You think that but I know better
spies4Zander: suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
spies4Candy: We'll talk about that after the game
spies4Zander: Have I ever voted how you wanted me to or told me to?
spies4Candy: Votes aren't the only thing I needed
spies4Zander: Well what else did you need? People to trust you?
spies4Candy: That's one
spies4Zander: I trusted you of my own accord. Whether you wanted me to or not is objectional
spies4Candy: Too bad I didn't detail all of this in my confessional
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: well I'm excited to see how you used me through the game *rolls eyes*
spies4Candy: You won't because it's not there in print
spies4Candy:
spies4Zander: You'll tell me
spies4Candy: After the game
spies4Candy: Do you try to think 3 episodes ahead?
spies4Candy: My background is in survivor games
spies4Candy: I'm always 3 episodes ahead
spies4Candy: But I never fucking make it to the f2
spies4Zander: I know, you told me that. You play spies like you play chess
spies4Zander: Sometimes I plan ahead but I can't ONLY do that
spies4Candy: I've been f3 so many times
spies4Zander: like I suspected Mistaki instantly and really had targets on him but I didn't want to pursue it cause I knew in the future there'd be actual evidence and in the meantime i could spend a few weeks observing other stuff... In that vague sense then I planned ahead
spies4Zander: but generally I don't plan ahead that much
spies4Candy: Like everyone's like "Oh I know what Sam would do so that's how we'll get spies"
spies4Candy: And like fuck whatever
spies4Candy: "He likes balance"
spies4Candy: So why are 5 of our spies girls hmmm?
spies4Candy: "He'd never cast someone as a spy twice"
spies4Candy: How the fuck do you know what he'd do
spies4Candy: Etc
spies4Candy: "He'd never cast Judith as a spy"
spies4Candy: WRONG
spies4Candy: Oops should've left it at eetc
spies4Candy: etc
spies4Candy: I should chill
spies4Candy: Chill Candy girl.
spies4Candy: Honestly I'm just pissed at Damon.
spies4Candy: So
spies4Candy: Leon or Pudgette
spies4Zander: Pudgette
spies4Candy: For real?
spies4Candy: I thought you were on the Leon side
spies4Candy: Not that this is really about sides come on there's only 1 spy left
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: I did suspect Leon 2nd most until Faizah turned up spy
spies4Zander: I still suspect him but not more than Hannah
spies4Candy: Leon's second on my list
spies4Candy: So let's talk about Pudgette
spies4Candy: Trade notes
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Candy: Because my notes say Faizah and Angelica changed their votes in exile 2 to save Hannah
spies4Zander: Well the obvious is that she followed you and trusted Faizah pretty openly... She wanted to save Faizah
spies4Candy: Faizah the cliquey clicked with Hannah?
spies4Candy: Come on, as if
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Zander: But I don't like how Hannah takes a back seat to things
spies4Zander: I mean Leon does too but totally differently
spies4Candy: Leon THINKS he's in total control
spies4Zander: She seems so proactive but then lets you (no offense) tell her exactly what to do
spies4Zander: it's gaining favor
spies4Candy: Like Leon's all like "No I know who the spies are and I've beem making lots of theories" forgetting that he never actually tells anyone anything useful and that we all think he's a stupid blind beetle
spies4Zander: Leon's past identity was a total moron. Leon is no different. I'm wary to call him a spy cause everyone keeps saying the orthos were brilliant (which I don't agree with, I just think the majority of us are stupid and couldn't catch them on our own), so if the orthos are brilliant then... he certainly isn't
spies4Candy: No the Orthodoxy aren't brilliant
spies4Candy: Youc an only exile 1 spy at a time
spies4Candy: The Traditionalists just came first
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: I'm serious
spies4Zander: My list right now is... Hannah, Leon, Summer, Damon, and nobody else lol
spies4Candy: Mine is just Pudgette and Beetle
spies4Zander: I know you and Singe are confirmed at this point and I absolutely do not suspect Kip
spies4Zander: If we're wrong about Hannah I will be genuinely surprised
spies4Candy: Yeah I was probably wrong on Kip. He was on my trusted list for a long time
spies4Candy: I switched only because of the investigation and my strong Singe suspicions
spies4Candy: Didn't have anything to do with Kip himself
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Zander: I just never felt like Kip was worth the sacrifice especially something so questionable
spies4Candy: Whatever, I still would have stood by my actions
spies4Zander: and I kinda trusted him too so why get rid of someone I don't suspect
spies4Zander: It wasn't dumb of you to keep your conviction
spies4Candy: Thanks
spies4Candy: I'm not one of those people who makes excuses
spies4Candy: I take full responsibility for pushing Cain and Jeremiah's exiles
spies4Candy: I fucke dup
spies4Candy: But I made the best decisions based on the info I had at the time and I stand by it
spies4Candy: Anyway Pudgette and Faizah definitely used me
spies4Zander: If you got rid of people you suspected why walk around regretting it
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: Well, they hid behind me
spies4Candy: I love how when everyone was like "I suspect Candy" they were so strongly "I trust Candy"
spies4Candy: There's some truth to what Kip said
spies4Zander: I messed up with Martha and Grace, but after that I got on a roll. I'm not gonna sit here grieving about Week 1 and 2... And I still dunno if Summer is a spy so I can't judge Week 3
spies4Candy: I talked about this with Singe last night
spies4Candy: About Summer
spies4Zander: What about it?
spies4Candy: I strongly believe she's not a spy
spies4Candy: Like I pointed this out to him
spies4Candy: Go look at Faizah's critiques
spies4Candy: I think she wrote one of them
spies4Candy: You can tell by the style
spies4Candy: Tell me if you think I'm right
spies4Zander: Let me check quick
spies4Zander: From where I'm standing, - This one?
spies4Candy: I was thinking the cliquey one
spies4Zander: I thought that sounded like YOU lol
spies4Candy: No mine is right under it
spies4Candy: FEEL
spies4Candy: That one
spies4Zander: ahhh
spies4Zander: I was in between those two for you
spies4Candy: HAHA you think I'm a good writer like that
spies4Candy: Kickass
spies4Zander: No I just figured you might be elusive in your critiques
spies4Zander: hmm...
spies4Zander: I dunno about the critique though, it's challenging Faizah to grow a pair, but not really leaning towards one side of spy or the other. She's, as she is saying, just calling her out
spies4Candy: That one not so much because I told the exact thing nearly word for word to Pudgette. I just copied and pasted a little for the critique because I thought it sounded good
spies4Candy: For being a spy
spies4Candy: Oh also
spies4Candy: You know the 2 people I PMed?
spies4Candy: About the Bev investigation
spies4Zander: I don't know them but I just read that "Candy's Trusted Two" thread Singe made
spies4Candy: I told Singe last night so he's probably todl everyone by now
spies4Candy: I PMed Johan and Singe
spies4Candy: I mean
spies4Candy: Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: But ADELAIDE was imprisoned over me? Come on.
spies4Candy: The Orthodoxy gave the Fatemaker the investigation, they had to have known where it came from
spies4Candy: She's smarter than that
spies4Candy: Pudgette and Faizah not so much
spies4Zander: I guess, but in the same sense...
spies4Candy: It doesn't even matter because we're hitting Pudgette and if not her then Leon
spies4Candy: I don't need to sell you on Summer
spies4Zander: It's possible the spies were working together in some sense? Didn't want you to know more spy identities
spies4Zander: lol no you don't
spies4Zander: If we're wrong about those two I really will scream though
spies4Candy: We're not.
spies4Candy: Did you see what I posted on Adelaide's dream lists?
spies4Zander: No
spies4Zander: where is that?
spies4Candy: spies4.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=theburg88ajv&action=display&thread=1196129828
spies4Zander: Wait, I'm confused right now
spies4Zander: You just said you PMed Summer and Johan about your bev investigation
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Zander: that was your mystery gift, right?
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: I lied
spies4Candy: My mystery gift was my head on a robot
spies4Zander: so you were guessing that bev was a spy?
spies4Candy: I lied about it at the time
spies4Candy: Because I wanted to use it to confirm Lloyd
spies4Zander: and then you investigated her?
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: I'm the Fatemaker, bitch
spies4Candy: Episode 4
spies4Candy: Fatemaking question: Who do you want the Fatemaker to investigate?
spies4Candy: Traditionalists: Investigate Candy
spies4Candy: Orthodoxy: Investigate Bev
spies4Candy: I chose Bev, duh
spies4Candy: Sam: She's a spy
spies4Candy: Me: Oh my god
spies4Candy: Me: PM Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: Me: Lie to the burg
spies4Zander: So you PMed them AFTER that investigation...
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Zander: But that doesn't make sense with you saying Summer wouldn't have picked Bev for you to investigate
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: That's not what I said
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Candy: Start over
spies4Candy: Timeline:
spies4Zander: When you said it before it sounded like she had prior knowledge you had investigated Bev
spies4Candy: She would
spies4Candy: If she was an Orthodoxy spy
spies4Candy: Timeline
spies4Candy: Each spy group is told the question
spies4Candy: Traditionalists send the Fatemaker my name, Orthodoxy sends the Fatemaker Beverly's name
spies4Candy: OK?
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: Then Emma got imprisoned and we exiled Angelica
spies4Candy: Then I sent out a PM to Johan and Summer
spies4Candy: "Hi it's me Candy, I investigated Bev, she's a spy"
spies4Zander: ok...
spies4Candy: Then the Orthodoxy tried to imprison Gordy
spies4Candy: NOT me
spies4Candy: Then I went public but I lied left and right "I know what Bev is because of my mystery prize"
spies4Candy: The Orthodoxy's next impisonment 2 episodes later was for Adelaide
spies4Candy: And what I'm saying is
spies4Candy: Summer's not that stupid
spies4Zander: gotcha
spies4Zander: I understand what you're saying and it makes sense but it's not enough to really clear her - she knows how you don't really distrust her. But anyway, I don't think there's much reason to focus on that. I really think Hannah's the last spy
spies4Candy: Me too
spies4Zander: Singe is very forceful on Leon
spies4Candy: Well he has good reasons
spies4Zander: did he tell you I was on the Leon side or something? lol
spies4Candy: No you did
spies4Candy: You said you suspected Mistaki Leon and Damon
spies4Zander: when?
spies4Zander: That was Week 9
spies4Zander: Faizah turning out to be a spy basically confirms Leon or Hannah as her spy partner, but in my eyes Hannah much more so
spies4Zander: especially since she fell for what you told her
spies4Zander: There's a difference between trusting someone...
spies4Zander: and just trying to save someone
spies4Zander: We know Hannah's smart too, she should want to think on her own
spies4Zander: but she basically did what you told her to for a while
spies4Candy: spies4hannah (9:32:07 PM): sigh, this vote has had me so torn
spies4Candy: This gets me
spies4Candy: Because what's there to be torn about? It's not like there was a tie
spies4Candy: But she hoped there would be one when she IMed me
spies4Zander: That's what I was thinking
spies4Zander: If she trusted Faizah that much there was no reason for her to be torn. And if she suspected Kip that much there was no reason for her to be torn
spies4Zander: It's like alterior motive for being torn, when... it's really cut and dry
spies4Candy: She didn't say "good" when Faizah was revealed to be a spy ... HAHA
spies4Zander: SHE DIDN'T TELL ME WHEN FAIZAH WAS REVEALED TO BE A SPY
spies4Zander: omg.
spies4Zander: I asked her to keep me updated
spies4Candy: Really?
spies4Zander: she was giving me like really, really vague and bare bones facts
spies4Candy: Depressed?
spies4Zander: "3 votes for Faizah so far. Sumemr threw away her vote for Candy. 6 votes for Faizah, she's gone"
spies4Zander: "Is she a spy? Who didn't vote for her?"
spies4Zander: "I'll telly you if she was or not when I find out... And I voted for Kip."
spies4Zander: then nothing else
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (10:06:33 PM): FAIZAH IS A SPY!!!!
spies4Singe (10:06:37 PM): woot!@
spies4Summer (10:06:41 PM): YES!
spies4Singe (10:06:44 PM): nice job guys
spies4Leon (10:06:45 PM): wooooohooooo
spies4hannah (10:06:49 PM): * didnt see that coming
spies4Candy: Was she happy when Mistaki left? Let's check
spies4Zander: No reason to her voting for Kip either
spies4Zander: just factually saying "And I voted for Kip"
spies4Candy: Oh she wasn't there for Mistaki's
spies4Candy: She knew she was getting votes in exile 2 because Faizah told her
spies4Candy: My personal reason is that I was in bevs family so could not vote her, but Candy convinced me that she was a spy and thus i threw away my vote in the hopes that Bev would get the majority of votes. I still suspect Naomi however.
spies4Candy: An Orthodoxy spy definitely would
spies4Zander: mmhmm
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (9:35:41 PM): BEVERLY
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:42 PM): IS
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:43 PM): A
Sorin the Seeker (9:35:46 PM): SPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spies4Candy (9:35:49 PM): I fucking
spies4Gordy (9:35:49 PM): wtf?!
spies4Candy (9:35:50 PM): Told
spies4Leon (9:35:50 PM): woooo
spies4hannah (9:35:50 PM): YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
spies4Candy: She was happy
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: I'm sure she was happy abotu Masaki - she voted him
spies4Candy: Did I show you this?
spies4Candy: Oh
spies4Candy: Singe posted it
spies4Candy: Faizah PMed me her suspect list
spies4Zander: Yeah I read that
spies4Candy: Hannah at the bottom
spies4Candy: Beetle only at #4 but she wanted to exile him anyway
spies4Candy: She thought we were going to work together with Hannah to save her
spies4Candy: "I really need you to talk to Summer and Hannah."
spies4Candy: She didn't talk to Hannah herself?
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: ridiculously odd
spies4Candy: But Hannah was so torn
spies4Zander: Poor Hannah
spies4Candy: Hey
spies4Candy: When I revealed Bev I told people to BACK OFF and be nice
spies4Candy: Just because someone's a spy doesn't mean you can rag on them
spies4Candy: So yeah
spies4Candy: Poor Hannah
spies4Zander: lol I'm not
spies4Candy: Nah I didn't mean just you
spies4Candy: Or you
spies4Candy: You like her
spies4Zander: There is a difference between sarcasm and ragging :-P
spies4Zander: She's nice
spies4Zander: Very early on I liked her
spies4Candy: You with the likings
spies4Zander: I KNOW
spies4Zander:
spies4Candy: Is this your character or are you like this in RL too?
spies4Zander: I've played most of this game as RL
spies4Zander: I'm not good with keeping in character. I do it for like 2 days and then lose it
spies4Zander: The dreamcatcher thing confuses me - you say he's unsure of who the other 2 people are but you list Damon lol
spies4Candy: He said MAYBE Damon
spies4Zander: ah
spies4Candy: I'm piecing together what he told me the 3 times I asked him
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: stupid strep throat
spies4Candy: Huh?
spies4Zander: I think I'm getting strep
spies4Candy: WTF
spies4Zander: all of a sudden my throat is killing me
spies4Candy: Did you kiss anyone with strep on the bus?
spies4Zander: Yes.
spies4Candy: Maybe a bug flew in your throat
spies4Zander: The hick next to me.
spies4Zander: We made out for 47 minutes
spies4Zander: Then he touched my penis and I stopped.
spies4Candy: 47?
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Zander: I timed it
spies4Zander: Then when I got back to clown school he facebooked me
spies4Zander: Don't act like your surprised
spies4Candy: I have a new sigline
spies4Zander: You've been waiting for that for WEEKS
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: It was just tiem for a change
spies4Zander: False.
spies4Candy: I could put something different in
spies4Zander: Ugh I have to do these memory things? No likey
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: WHY DONES'T ANYONE IN THIS GAME LISTNE
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Candy: That would be a good one
spies4Zander: Well, why donest' they?
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: JOHAN TALKED TO ME IN PRIVATE
spies4Zander: IF I WAS A SPY I WOULD NEVER IMPRISON HIM
spies4Candy: I wonder what you talked about in private
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: YOU'RE A WHORE
spies4Zander: YOU THINK I'M A SPY? FUCK YOU AS HARD AS CAN BE
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: oh my god I was ridiculous
spies4Zander: I don't even remember parts of that
spies4Candy: Oh I do
spies4Candy: I do!
spies4Zander: I'm sure you do
spies4Candy: spies4Zander: YOU PROMISED ME MASAKI WOUDL GO NEXT AND NOW YOU TARGET SINGE. I SWEAR TO GOD HE'S A SPY AND NOONE LISTENS TO ME
spies4Zander: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SIDE AND I WORK SO HARD AND NO ONE DCARES
spies4Zander: Which memories do I have / care about
spies4Zander: the mini mafia game...
spies4Candy: Where you failed pathetically
spies4Zander: I didn't fail pathetically
spies4Zander: think about this
spies4Zander: OMG revelation!
spies4Zander: The last mafia was me, and the last 3 innocents were Bunni, Beverly, and Faizah... Do you think Bev and Faizah were working together to win the whole time or something?
spies4Zander: it's a long shot but maybe
spies4Zander: Cause I had no chance of winning even before that round - the 3 divas were working together and somehow all knew each other was innocent
spies4Candy: You didn't imprison them
spies4Candy: Your own fault
spies4Zander: I was just speculating about them working as spies - calm your shit, sir
spies4Candy: You were outsmarted by girls
spies4Zander: Fact.
spies4Zander: I was also outsmarted by two spies
spies4Candy: On opposite sides
spies4Zander: Too bad that's the only time all game that happened. HAH.
spies4Zander: Well except when Bev convinced me she was telling the truth about her role...
spies4Zander: but that's once.
spies4Candy: PWNT
spies4Zander: Yeah I definitely just wrecked myself.
spies4Zander: Memory Wall - Boring
spies4Zander: blah blah...
spies4Zander: How much do you want to bet Leon doesn't do it lol
spies4Candy: Oh I don't even know if I want him to
spies4Zander: lol
spies4Zander: poor guy... deep down I still don't want to think he's a spy
spies4Candy: Because he's a turd?
spies4Zander: Not really
spies4Zander: I dunno, I always get that small gut feeling that I'm wrong on suspecting him... but I've been wrong before, could be again.
spies4Candy: Enough with the gut
spies4Candy: I haven't gone on gut all game
spies4Zander: The gut got me Mistaki
spies4Candy: Eh
spies4Candy: Fine
spies4Zander: Eh yourself
spies4Candy: Read what I posted for ep 4
spies4Candy: That was one of my fav moments
spies4Zander: LMAO I love that conversation
spies4Candy: ME TOO
spies4Candy: See
spies4Candy: This is fun
spies4Candy: Oh one other thing
spies4Candy: You know that alliance you had?
spies4Candy: 1) It was to out Naomi, who the Orthodoxy spies knew about
spies4Candy: 2) Hannah pulled Faizah in
spies4Zander: omg
spies4Zander: I completely forgot that
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: And then things got NUTS! Faizah, who before was like "Bev's a spy!" was now like "I trust Bev!" and Damon was like "I'm not going to decide my vote until 30 minutes before exile" and Adelaide was like "Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev no Naomi no Bev" and Kip and Singe were like "I'm on vacation" and Zander was like "I had a 4 hour convo with Bev and she convinced me she's a citizen" and Cain was like "I am going to give the tiebreaker to Bev!" and Naomi was like "Did I mention I voted Damon" and I was like "Johan why are these people driving me nuts?" and Johan was like "There there Candy I believe you" and everything worked out.
spies4Zander: lmao
spies4Candy: I forgot about Mistaki
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: and Mistaki was like "I'm not voting Bev but I want you to swear on your life and your firstborn child that you will do what I tell you to do and vote Naomi next"
spies4Candy: Oh also
spies4Candy: Let's say you were a spy
spies4Candy: And your partner spy was getting voted out
spies4Candy: Would this be what you'd ask?
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:54:17 PM): wait Sam, i have a quick question
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:54:44 PM): when someone's Imprisoned, are they killed?
spies4Candy: Sorin the Seeker (9:54:58 PM): metaphorically =)
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:55:35 PM): just curious, cause Gordy was hit over the head with a hard object, hard enough for him to bloody his shirt, but he came back 2 rounds later
spies4Candy: spies4Leon (9:56:00 PM): it would have to be a big blood puddle for it to get from his head to his shirt...
spies4Zander: omg you talk to much :-P
spies4Candy: Me?
spies4Zander: I was joking - I went away and there was a lot of stuff ehre lol
spies4Candy: I get the feeling Hannah's only doctored a few stuff
spies4Candy: Because she keeps posting the same bits
spies4Candy: CANDY OUT