Episode 12 - Conversations

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4kip: she gave it to leon
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spies4kip: and he found like nothing
spies4Damon: Or so he says.
spies4kip: he said sam wouldnt let him pick her dream topic
spies4kip: so he picked the episode she got her dream, but all it was was stuff about signe and candy
spies4Damon: Good old Adelaide.
spies4kip: candy believes it cuz all her FM stuff is in an FM folder
spies4Damon: And what about the other 2?
spies4kip: not her episode one
spies4kip: gordy had nothing really in his "rebirth" episode
spies4kip: which i kinda expected
spies4Damon: Why did they choose that Episode??
spies4Damon: When Candy and I discussed it there were several other options.
spies4kip: and johan ep8
spies4kip: leon said johan had the best confessionasl
spies4Damon: That was another we discussed.
spies4kip: but nothing really revleaing
spies4Damon: Like that matters right now. Any info?
spies4kip: just funny to read and stuff
spies4kip: no messages he never told anyone
spies4kip: or anything
spies4Damon: It has to be Summer, Leon or Zander. Only 2 more Exiles possible and we can't screw up again.
spies4kip: zander is my gut now
spies4kip: or leon
spies4kip: zander then leon
spies4Damon: Leon than Zander
spies4Damon: I just don't see it being Summer
spies4Damon: And if it is then girl played one fucking amazing game.
spies4Damon: The thing with Zander that stands out for me is that he went after Masaki, a Traditionalist.
spies4Damon: But never said much during the Faizah bit.
spies4kip: yeah
spies4kip: he told me he thought everyone was doing to faizah what happened to cain
spies4kip: we were all shortsighted and wrong
spies4Damon: He said something similar to me.
spies4kip: then when the vote was basically set, everyone is so smart and shit
spies4Damon: I need to read read my shit from that Episode, see what comes up.
spies4Damon: I can't believe we sacrificed Singe for the crap that Leon got out of the COnfessionals.
spies4kip: sacrficed singe?
spies4Damon: Singe protected Candy instead of self protecting so we could get the information from the Confessionals.
spies4kip: in my opinion, singe was the bigger risk to keep around
spies4Damon: Singe was the better contributer.
spies4kip: spies control candys fatemaker
spies4kip: singe can protect people
spies4kip: get him out first
spies4kip: hes also more analytical
spies4kip: and nice
spies4kip: candy is erratic
spies4Damon: That doesn't help us at all.
spies4kip: singe going was a foregone conclusion, i dont think he could even save himself
spies4Damon: It was a waste since we got nothing from him leaving.
spies4Damon: Who knows what insight he could've given after last night?
spies4Damon: And since when have you been playing in CAndy's pocket?
spies4kip: he'd be saying leon
spies4kip: in candys pocket?
spies4Damon: Yes
spies4kip: what do you mean
spies4Damon: spies4Zander: so what are your thoughts on tonight's exile?
spies4Damon: I don't think Faizah has made much of an effort in her defense and it was given a little too late. I think she's the most likely in this group.
spies4Zander: Yeah I've had my vote on her for a while
spies4Zander: I was just talking to Kip and we both feel that if she is a spy, then hannah is most likely her partner
spies4Damon: That's not the answer to your question.
spies4Damon: Just a snp from the convesation he and I had.
spies4Damon: pies4Zander: Yeah it's not really a bandwagon when you're the biggest suspect lol. I wouldn't consider this anything like Cain
spies4Damon: Not at all.
spies4Zander: people voted for Cain cause others told them to. We're a lot farther along at this point and there's a lot more evidence and reason to suspect Faizah than there was Cain
spies4Damon: About Candy's pocket? Suddenly you seem to be playing her side of the field.
spies4Damon: I don't know better how to explain it. You're not a pawn but I don't see you as such a free thinker anymore.
spies4Damon: And you're all buddy-buddy
spies4kip: its obvious she's going next imprisonment
spies4kip: we need all we can gain from her
spies4kip: and im not buddy buddy
spies4kip: im acting the same i have this entire game
spies4kip: we both agreed on hannah
spies4Damon: Not from my perspective.
spies4kip: ok
spies4kip: not in mine
spies4Damon: Fine
spies4kip: i dont see how you can say im buddy buddy with candy
spies4Damon: All of a sudden that's the opinion I've gotten.
spies4Damon: Or maybe it's just your less friendly with me.
spies4kip: havent tried to be
spies4Damon: Or maybe I'm cranky from being up at 4am for a non Finale
spies4kip: :-(
spies4Damon: That sucked
spies4kip: yeah it did very much
spies4Damon: Sucked even more for Hannah. She was up at 5am
spies4Damon: AND got Exiled
spies4Damon: Back in a bit. I need to shower.
spies4kip: its gotta be roguh for you two
spies4Damon: I wouldn't say rough. Frustrating at times though.
spies4Damon: See you in a bit.
spies4Damon: Dag
spies4kip: k
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spies4Damon: And I'm back
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spies4kip: i was just leaving lol
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spies4kip: to eat lunch
spies4Damon: LOL Enjoy
spies4kip: ill try can catch you later
spies4Damon: Sure thing.

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: Hello
spies4kip: hi
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spies4Damon: How're you?
spies4kip: im alright
spies4kip: just chillin
spies4kip: you?
spies4Damon: Watching a little TV before I think about what I'm doing tonight. I don't feel like driving anywhere.
spies4kip: i gotta work tonight *gag*
spies4Damon: What do you do?
spies4kip: work stuff lol
spies4Damon: Descrptive.
spies4kip: ;-)
spies4kip: yep
spies4Damon: What's going on about Exile?
spies4kip: trying now to talk aobut real life
spies4kip: umm brb
spies4Damon: Nice
spies4kip: zander for me though
spies4kip: brb
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Damon: Did you get my PM today? (when you get back, I know you're away)
spies4kip: back
spies4kip: the leon or zander? one?
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4kip: yes got it
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Damon: Any comments?
spies4kip: good observations
spies4kip: kinda how i feel, except that zander didnt post anything on faizah
spies4kip: defending or suspecting her
spies4kip: til it was certain she was going
spies4kip: which is mainly where my suspicion of him stems from
spies4kip: he was adament about voting m asaki
spies4kip: and told me a lot of times that if he was an ortho, he wouldnt do that
spies4Damon: That's a good observation too.
spies4Damon: Is Candy leaning that way? I worry because of her closeness to him.
spies4kip: i think she is
spies4kip: i havent actually spoekn to her a lot since hannah though
spies4kip: i plan to tonight/tomorrow
spies4kip: cuz if she goes at imp
spies4kip: she may have things to share
spies4Damon: Right
spies4kip: shes told me to trust summer though
spies4Damon: Well she hasn't replied to my PM either.
spies4kip: she never replies to mine
spies4kip: unless she has sometihng to ask
spies4kip: so that doesnt surprise me
spies4kip: did she open it though?
spies4Damon: I didn't check.
spies4kip: im sure she did, cuz shes posted on the board
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4Damon: She opened it.
spies4kip: though it is easy to overlook that you have a PM
spies4kip: cuz i do that a lot lol
spies4Damon: It's the first thing I look at.
spies4kip: also, when faizah was a target
spies4kip: zander listed her as a suspect to me in AIM
spies4kip: his fourth suspect
spies4kip: then when it came to listing reasons why it could be her, her went around saying that he thinks its cain all over again, and that people are making a mistake
spies4kip: and that its prolly more likely to be hannah
spies4Damon: It does seem suspicious. And otherwise he's played a nearly flawless game. I think that almost stands out more to me. That it's been pretty clean and he even got in good with the confirmed Cit.
spies4kip: he didnt even list hannah in his top 4 though
spies4Damon: Really? Wow...
spies4Damon: Who was his top 4?
spies4kip: and the funny part
spies4kip: he talks about going after his top suspect
spies4kip: you were his #1
spies4kip: it was you, summer, leon, faizah
spies4kip: yet he ne ver pressed you as a vote
spies4kip: just "gave in" to faizah
spies4Damon: That was a problem I had too.
spies4Damon: The only vote he's ever pushed for was Masaki... and then he suddenly stopped pushing.
spies4kip: i really need to speak to zander
spies4kip: but that's a pipe dream now
spies4kip: as hes gone
spies4kip: he was gone when faizah was the target too
spies4kip: so we could gain nothing from him
spies4Damon: That's true. I almost hope for his sake and for our's that it's a cover. Because then there would be no emergency.
spies4kip: i hate thinking that tohugh
spies4kip: makes me seem cold and shit
spies4kip: suspecting his emergency is a farce
spies4kip: we'll just wait til he gets back
spies4Damon: Agreed.
spies4kip: hes not here, so he cant defend himself either
spies4kip: and he'll be back sunday
spies4Damon: I think it's kind to think it's fake because then he wouldn't have to suffer it was something horrible.
spies4kip: still have an entire day to interrogate him
spies4Damon: That's good news.
spies4Damon: I never see him actually online though. Always away.
spies4kip: yeah
spies4kip: this game is crazy
spies4Damon: I'd have to agree with you there.
spies4kip: i think im gonna get off for lnch
spies4kip: ill ttyl damon
spies4Damon: Bye Kip

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: I'll make a posting tomorrow. It's midnight here.
spies4Candy: Damn finally someone IMs me
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spies4Candy: I've been waiting like 3 days
spies4Candy: Or 2 or something
spies4Candy: Hi
spies4Damon: You weren't on earlier today or I might have.
spies4Candy: I kno
spies4Candy: I'm going through ALL of my convos
spies4Candy: Looking for everything that's been said on my top 3
spies4Damon: Anything popping up?
spies4Candy: Oh yeah
spies4Candy: I'm on episode 4 and I have pages of stuff
spies4Damon: Since you trust Summer I'm guessing I'm #3?
spies4Candy: By default
spies4Candy: Like I said
spies4Candy: This exile's going to be you v Zander
spies4Candy: One of you two is gonna be exiled and I want to hit the right one
spies4Candy: 50-50
spies4Damon: I've made all the points I need to about my innocence. I've give you my points about Zander. But I'll make my posts tomorrow too. I still think Leon is my top choice.
spies4Candy: I go back and forth on that
spies4Damon: On Leon?
spies4Candy: Faizah wanted to sell Leon out to stay
spies4Damon: It would make sense if they were Spy partners.
spies4Candy: But I am 90% sure Leon wasn't in Adelaide's dream
spies4Candy: He also wasn't hardcore Naomi except in episode 1
spies4Candy: And MAGIC BOY totally was
spies4Candy: So was Faizah
spies4Candy: Because they KNEW she was a spy
spies4Damon: Adelaide did?
spies4Candy: No - Angelica said Naomi was a spy after she was exposed, remember?
spies4Damon: Right
spies4Damon: OK Sorry
spies4Damon: Like I said, it's late, not thinking straight.
spies4Candy: Nah it's fine
spies4Candy: At the time Faizah was trying to implant Bev suspicions in my head
spies4Damon: And I'm carrying a converation in Dutch so the dual language takes up most of my head LOL
spies4Candy: And she went on and on about how she didn't trust Bev
spies4Damon: She was following BEv's every decree.
spies4Candy: But when it came time to vote she voted Naomi
spies4Damon: Right.
spies4Candy: Because Naomi was the sure thing
spies4Damon: I thought they both were but that ws a matter of opinion.
spies4Candy: HAHA 7 people voted Naomi
spies4Candy: At least 2 were citizens
spies4Damon: I voted Naomi.
spies4Candy: No you didn't
spies4Candy: You voted Bev
spies4Candy: I'm talking exile 5
spies4Damon: OOOOH
spies4Candy: Sorry
spies4Damon: Sorry
spies4Candy: Zander at the time made a PM alliance
spies4Candy: "Alliance to vote out Naomi" at the beginning of episode 5
spies4Damon: PM?
spies4Candy: Before I came forward with my investigation
spies4Candy: PM = private message
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: He and Hannah PMed me, Cain, Bev, Gordy, Faizah and Singe
spies4Candy: "Alliance to vote Naomi out"
spies4Candy: Angelica said her spies weren't going to imprison Naomi, remember?
spies4Damon: Right
spies4Candy: Anyway I forgot why I'm talking about this
spies4Candy: Oh right
spies4Candy: Leon
spies4Candy: Didn't care
spies4Damon: Didn't care about what?
spies4Damon: The alliance?
spies4Candy: Actively pushing people to vote Naomi
spies4Candy: Leon though
spies4Candy: I don't know
spies4Candy: But he's priority #3 right now for me
spies4Damon: I'm still very suspicious about him.
spies4Damon: I'll have to do another review of my info but I'd really like to see what everyone else has been thinking too.
spies4Candy: Voting notes:
Has voted for a spy 7 out of 10 times
Targeted by Old Kip and New Kip
Has received votes from both spy sets
Has received penalties twice
spies4Candy: MAGIC BOY hasn't received a single vote this entire game
spies4Damon: Almost too invisible.
spies4Candy: He received 1 accusation vote at the beginning
spies4Candy: Don't know who it was from
spies4Candy: But that's it
spies4Candy: He had a motive to imprison Lloyd
spies4Candy: I don't knwo if you know this
spies4Damon: I guess he wasn't very careful about the alias bit.
spies4Candy: But my fatemaking choice in episode 2 was deciding who was imprisoned
spies4Damon: You didn't mention that, did you?
spies4Candy: The Traditionalists wanted me to choose Lise and the Orthodoxy wanted me to choose Lloyd
spies4Candy: Some people know
spies4Damon: And you chose Lise.
spies4Candy: I did because I didn't think I could use her as well as I could use Lloyd
spies4Candy: But back in episode 1
spies4Damon: Which means that the Orthodoxy still wanted to Imprison Lloyd and did it again later.
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: So OK why Lloyd?
spies4Candy: I looked back
spies4Damon: He didn't stand out that much. That one took me by surprise.
spies4Candy: No
spies4Candy: It made total sense
spies4Damon: Of course it was my first Imrpisonment in the game.
spies4Candy: Right
spies4Candy: Where is this damned quote
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: Why try to find out who's behind each player?
spies4Ralph: no i didnt try to find it out!!! read the post that lloyd put out!!! this is my first time in the spies world i have barely read old games just skimmed season three zander was the one who thought he figured out lloyds identity i found that suspicious and told lloyd about it lloys tooko it as me throgin zander under the bus

spies4Candy: Lloyd was furious at Zander and Ralph for figuring out his identity
spies4Damon: Suddenly that makes a lot more sense.
spies4Candy: Made a lot of early posts about "Ralph's a rat, Zander's a liar"
spies4Candy: Stuff like that
spies4Damon: I wish stupid Damon 1 had given me SOMETHING to work with.
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: Damon 1 and I never talked
spies4Damon: Not even a fucking vote.
spies4Candy: I know
spies4Candy: So check this out
spies4Candy: I was like OK why was Lloyd imprisoned?
spies4Candy: Even though I knew full well he was the intended target the episode before
spies4Candy: Faizah and Zander gave me
spies4Candy: 1) the same reason
spies4Candy: 2) The same suspect
spies4Candy: And they both tried to exile that guy that episode
spies4Damon: LOL
spies4Damon: Well.... that is a bit more than a little suspicious
spies4Candy: Check this out
spies4Candy: spies4Faizah: Do you think Ralph really imprisoned Lloyd?
spies4Candy: Not sure
spies4Faizah: Like, I am almost convinced he is a spy....but from what group.
spies4Candy: But yeah - group
spies4Candy: Why tell Lloyd that plot if you were going to imprison him?
spies4Candy: Makes no sense
spies4Faizah: I know, seems like a set up

spies4Candy: Accuse Ralph, say it was a setup
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: So why Lloyd?
spies4Zander: It seems like a frame, but who knows. Ralph clearly doesn't seem to be the smartest player

spies4Candy: Accuse Ralph, say it was a setup
spies4Damon: Same thing.
spies4Damon: Same order.
spies4Candy: And then they both voted for Ralph
spies4Candy: Well
spies4Candy: Zander couldn't
spies4Candy: Family restrictions
spies4Candy: So he voted Summer and told Madison to do the same
spies4Candy: Bam
spies4Candy: The 2 guys who got him in trouble GONE that VERY EPISODE
spies4Damon: And Zander emerges clean enough to weather it up until now.
spies4Candy: No votes
spies4Damon: The only thing he's done, since then,k as far as I've seen, is the Misaski vote.
spies4Candy: Yeah whatever
spies4Candy: He started voting Mistaki in episode 8
spies4Candy: People just think he was after Mistaki earlier than that
spies4Candy: But no
spies4Damon: That was the first?
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: Votes cast:
1: Martha
2: Grace
3: Summer
4: Angelica (O)
5: Naomi (T)
6: Naomi (T)
7: Guilty
8: Masaki (T)
9.1: Masaki (T)
9.2: Masaki (T)
10: Faizah (O)
11: Hannah

spies4Damon: 3 in a row until he was gone.
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Candy: But he's like "Oh I've been after Mistaki since ep 1"
spies4Candy: No he hasn't
spies4Damon: That's a bit of a lie.
spies4Damon: I really want him to be able to answer some o the accusations. Would suck if I became suspect #1 because of it but I want to make sure that we're after the right guy. But now we have to wait until Sunday for him to return. Which makes our job more difficult.
spies4Candy: Yeah well he's made it hard to catch him
spies4Candy: You know the "post who you'd investigate" thread?
spies4Candy: He never posted there
spies4Candy: The "Post who your suspects are" thread?
spies4Candy: Never posted there
spies4Damon: You saw my 25 post analysis?
spies4Candy: "Post who you trust" never posted that
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Damon: The majority is fluff. Never gave any good answers to the Zander+Faizah thread.
spies4Candy: Ha
spies4Candy: OK so get this
spies4Candy: I told Singe to protect Summer and Kip in episode X and he wouldn't
spies4Candy: So I figured I had to protect them from imprisonment somehow
spies4Candy: So I PMed Faizah
spies4Damon: How are you sur that Summer is a Cit?
spies4Candy: I told her that I didn't think she was a spy and that I would pull together Hannah and Summer to save her
spies4Candy: I'm like 95% sure
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: Oh on that note
spies4Candy: The only person who's never said they didn't suspect her was Zander
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Damon: Really?
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Candy: Leon last episode said "Summer? C'mon, can't be her"
spies4Candy: Kip says he trusts her 2nd only to me
spies4Candy: You posted that you suspect everyone but her
spies4Candy: Zander has her in his top 2
spies4Candy: Of suspects
spies4Damon: Isn't that a little curious? I still don't suspect her but why do we all get that read?
spies4Candy: I asked that in my confessional
spies4Damon: I trust her second to you and Kip.
spies4Damon: Third LOL
spies4Candy: Because she's a thinker
spies4Candy: I don't know
spies4Candy: She's made all the right moves so far
spies4Candy: Like ...
spies4Damon: You;re right about that.
spies4Candy: When Mistaki was like "Candy's mystery prize has to be a lie"
spies4Candy: She fought with him for days on reasons why it had to be true
spies4Damon: I admit I was hoping you were Spy even after you came out with a Role claim <_<
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Damon: But I sucked it up and believed it. What else could I do?
spies4Damon: It was the downpoint of the game to me
spies4Candy: So sorry - NOT
spies4Damon: LOL
spies4Candy: Why was it the downpoint?
spies4Damon: I had too many theories including you.
spies4Candy: Whatever
spies4Candy: No one likes being proven wrong
spies4Candy: I didn't like it last episode with Hannah
spies4Damon: Truth
spies4Candy: And yeah I still almost can't believe it
spies4Damon: That was the biggest shock of the game.
spies4Damon: I was so certain I set my damn alarm clock.
spies4Damon: Fucking 4am and nothing.
spies4Damon: I shouldn't complain. Hannah was 5am and Exiled.
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Candy: Her defenses SUCKED though
spies4Damon: They did.
spies4Damon: Same problem with Cain. If you're going to defend yourself you've gotta produce better.
spies4Candy: OK don't even compare the 2
spies4Candy: Cain didn't defend himself
spies4Candy: Peirod
spies4Damon: "Whatever"
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: You thought my defense sucked
spies4Candy: But honestly I wasn't trying
spies4Damon: Until you Role Claimed and spoiled my fun.
spies4Candy: The fun's just starting
spies4Candy: Literally because my phone rang and I gotta go
spies4Candy: Post some shit
spies4Candy: OK?
spies4Candy: Go look through ALL your convos
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Damon: All 2 of them?
spies4Candy: Are you kidding me?
spies4Candy: Do you really only have 2 every episode?
spies4Damon: Yes, I'm kidding.
spies4Candy: Oh right
spies4Candy: I said you did
spies4Damon: Some episodes I have 3... others I have many more.
spies4Candy: Ummmm
spies4Damon:
spies4Candy: The minimum I have
spies4Damon: Gullibe?
spies4Candy: For any episode is
spies4Candy: 8 from last episode
spies4Damon: I haven't had many people to talk to but Kip, Masaki and Singe. The second Singe was Imprisoned I estimate my conversations will be cut down to 1/4 the number.
spies4Candy: I have 57 from episode 9
spies4Candy: Ugh
spies4Candy: Whatever makes you happy
spies4Candy: I think the time I've spent playing this game has been wroth it
spies4Candy: But that's me
spies4Candy: Anyway your homework
spies4Damon: I have enjoyed it. I've spent a lot of time but I didn't install Pidgin at work until IX.
spies4Damon: The time difference makes more of a difference then you would think.
spies4Candy: Look at all your convos with Faizah Angelica Leon Zander
spies4Candy: And yeah I believe it
spies4Candy: And then look at all your convos with everyone else to see what they've had to say about Zander
spies4Candy: And Leon
spies4Candy: Ummm
spies4Candy: Just find shit
spies4Candy: OK?
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: CANDY OUT
spies4Damon: Dag

[Kate (Damon)]

spies4Damon: Hey
spies4Candy: Damon
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spies4Damon: I'm authoring the post now. Just got home.
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Damon: Posted
spies4Candy: Can I tell you my #1 worry?
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: OK I'm worried that MAGIC BOY will try to convince you to vote WITH him instead of AGAINST him
spies4Candy: Like let's say Leon's a citizen
spies4Candy: MAGIC BOY will be like "Screw this Damon it doesn't have to be between us"
spies4Candy: "Let's vote Leon"
spies4Candy: so
spies4Candy: I am worried that he's going to get close to you
spies4Candy: And try to pretend to be your friend
spies4Damon: Too late for that.
spies4Candy: You're already BFFs with MAGIC BOY?
spies4Damon: No I already made my BFF in the game
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: King Singe
spies4Damon: And then he went and got himself imprisoned when he wouldn't self protect. I fucking hate him now.
spies4Candy: He coudln't
spies4Candy: He could not self protect
spies4Candy: I'm telling you
spies4Damon: Still hate
spies4Candy: He did what I would have done
spies4Damon: It's a joke.
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Damon: He knows it too.
spies4Candy: Yeah well why was Singe imprisoned over me Damon?
spies4Candy: Why was my fatemaking decision allowed to go through?
spies4Damon: Better analytical skills? <_<
spies4Candy: Singe suspected MAGIC BOY
spies4Candy: And MAGIC BOY thinks I'm on his side
spies4Damon: Maybe the Spy was too afraid that he protected you.
spies4Damon: That's a theory too.
spies4Candy: I doubt it - I think the spies give multiple names for everything
spies4Candy: Like for fatemaking - what if theyc hoose the same name?
spies4Damon: Zander must think you're as enamored of him as he is of you. What with all those Candy explosions.
spies4Candy: I was talking about how he shouldn't piss me off or he'd get a Candy explosin
spies4Candy: He likes to take things I say out of context if they sound sexual
spies4Damon: LOL
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: But he does think I'm enamored with him
spies4Candy: (I'm not)
spies4Damon: Clearly
spies4Candy: But so long as Singe was out of the game the votes were going to stay for Hannah
spies4Candy: Leon didn't know this and MAGIC BOY did
spies4Damon: If Zander is the Spy who goes home tonight?
spies4Candy: Me
spies4Candy: Duh
spies4Candy: I'm the only confirmed citizen left
spies4Candy: With me here everyone votes united
spies4Damon: Which means I need to get Summer and Kip to vote Zander.
spies4Candy: Without me here there's a chance to flip
spies4Damon: And Leon
spies4Candy: Yeah
spies4Damon: Kip shouldn't be too much of a problem. I don't speak to Leon or Summer at all though. The time zones never overlap I think.
spies4Candy: Leon's online right now
spies4Candy: You have your away message up though
spies4Damon: There we go.
spies4Damon: Sorry I had intended to post and go straight to bed.
spies4Candy: Oh
spies4Damon: Visiting a friend tomorrow in Germany. Early morning.
spies4Candy: You and your vacations
spies4Damon: This is only a day trip.
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Candy: I told you most of what I found on MAGIC BOY
spies4Candy: I went through more convos
spies4Candy: No one ever talks about you
spies4Candy: Youknow that?
spies4Damon: Yes. Are you going to refrain from posting it until after Imp?
spies4Candy: Hello I'm going ot be imprisoned
spies4Candy: Why would I wait
spies4Candy: Anyway no one never talks about you
spies4Damon: OK
spies4Candy: I'm up to episode 6
spies4Damon: I don;t know how to react LOL
spies4Candy: Well you've made things hard
spies4Candy: Because the vote will eithe rbe
spies4Candy: 1) Vote Zander cause he's really suspicious
spies4Candy: Or 2) Vote Damon because everyone seems more innocent than him
spies4Candy: We can't say Vote Damon because he's really suspicious
spies4Candy: And that sucks
spies4Damon: Maybe the reason is I'm actually a Citizen
spies4Candy: We can't PROVE you guilty
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: We'll find out
spies4Damon: Hopefully after the game ends.
spies4Candy: This is like Bunni's trial all over agian
spies4Candy: No one actually voted her guilty like "She's done things that says she's a spy" - they voted "Maybe she's not innocent and should we chance it?"
spies4Candy: Do you know what I'm saying?
spies4Damon: Yes
spies4Damon: And I have no insight other than I am a Cit
spies4Candy: spies4Beverly: AS MUCH AS HE IS A PIECE OF SHIT
spies4Beverly: DAMON IS PROBABLY A CITIZEN..
spies4Candy: You think so?
spies4Beverly: Y ELSE WUD THE REAL DAMON QUIT
spies4Beverly: AND NOT BE "INTO IT" IF HE WAS A SP
spies4Beverly: SPY
spies4Damon: Not the best defense I could come up with but I definitely would label it as coming from the one person I never would expect to hear that from.
spies4Candy: But on the other hand of that, when people were like "Let's vote out the inactives!" no one brought your name up - and Angelica tried to make you seem like Old Damon was more active than he actually was
spies4Candy: So blah blah blah
spies4Damon: Wait. Angelica said Old Damon was more active than he was? Or that he was more active than me? That English was weird.
spies4Candy: spies4Singe: demon's one who i think could be a spy
spies4Singe: lol demon
spies4Candy: Freudian slip
spies4Singe: totally
spies4Singe: i think he may have been pressured by his team
spies4Singe: to beg to be replaced
spies4Singe: if he was considering bailing
spies4Candy: I didn't think of that
spies4Singe: "DUDE UR TOO QUIET UR TOTALLY GONNA FUCK US OVER"
spies4Candy: And that's why there was a question with Damon, not Kiyoshi
spies4Singe: rightr
spies4Singe: so he felt guilty and asked for replacement
spies4Singe: it's almost enough to make me want to vote him
spies4Candy: Yeah it's somewhere, can't find the quote right now
spies4Candy: Angelica said that Old Damon was more active than he was
spies4Candy: Than he actually was
spies4Candy: Damnit can't find it
spies4Damon: First it was that Damon was replaced because he was a Spy, then it is that he was replaced because he asked to be because he was an ianctive Spy. Too many theories with too little substance. And if there's any defence or theory against me that has to do with the replacement I start to get annoyed. It's the least factor in this game and the hardes to refute or argue for or against.
spies4Candy: Yeah it is
spies4Damon: I can tell you exactly how active: nada. At least Journal wise.
spies4Candy: Did you ever talk to Faizah?
spies4Damon: Maybe twice, I can go find the conversations if you'd like.
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Damon: And then I'm going to bed.
spies4Damon: Unless there is anything else yo uwant me to answer.
spies4Candy: Beauty rest
spies4Candy: Ummmm
spies4Candy: Well this is the last time we'll talk
spies4Candy: So if you have anything I should know, say it
spies4Candy: Any messages you want me to pass onto King Singe in the LL?
spies4Damon: That I miss his wit and banter
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Damon: And that I still swear by the 'borsten' that I'm a Cit
spies4Candy: What's that?
spies4Damon: He'll understand the last bit. I was teaching him some Dutch LOL
spies4Candy: Teach me
spies4Damon: I was teaching him how to swear.
spies4Damon: And parts of anatomy
spies4Candy: HAHA OK
spies4Candy: He is witty
spies4Candy: I liked him in the earlier episodes
spies4Damon: I liked him in the latter. He got me to open up and not be so stodgy.
spies4Candy: Then he came back and said I was a spy and I told him I was going to crush him
spies4Damon: Also kept me from quitting when you drove me berserk.
spies4Candy: OK whatever, you said I was a horrible player when I've done nothing but work hard for the cits
spies4Damon: Can we not rehash now?
spies4Candy: I told Leon to say something kickass about me
spies4Damon: I'd rather remember you as tolerable.
spies4Candy: Since I was going to be imprisoned
spies4Candy: Do you know what Leon said?
spies4Damon: What?
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: OK since I'm going to be imprisoned tell me something kickass about me
spies4Leon: You were one of the best citizens in the game, if not, the best.
spies4Damon: How sweet.
spies4Candy: It is but even more than that he recognizes my gameplay
spies4Candy: One more for my fanclub
spies4Candy: Give me a compliment Damon
spies4Candy: Since I'm going to be imprisoned
spies4Damon: You're not as intolerable as I used to think you were.
spies4Candy: OK no
spies4Candy: That's the same thing you said abotu Bev
spies4Candy: BLECH
spies4Candy: She cheated so she could stay in the game OK?
spies4Candy: Do not give me the same compliment as her
spies4Damon: What?
spies4Damon: You were passionate.
spies4Candy: We're not allowed to tell identities and she told hers to make people believe her
spies4Candy: OK thank you for that
spies4Damon: It's the truth
spies4Candy: OK so Faizah convos
spies4Candy: Obviously don't cheat
spies4Candy: But anything good?
spies4Damon: Let me find them, sorry. WAs distracted coming up with something nice to say.
spies4Damon: Something else nice Je had een groot genoeg ego om de Citizens bijna de overwinning te geven. Wens ons sterkte.
spies4Candy: HAHA I had a large ego?
spies4Candy: "You had to a large enough ego to the Citizens almost give the victory. Wish our sterkte."
spies4Damon: Kind of close
spies4Damon: You had enough ego to carry the Citizens to a near victory. Wish us luck
spies4Candy: Good sterkte
* spies4Damon salutes the Queen
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Damon: OK without getting pissed are you REALLY a woman beneath the Candy kit?
spies4Candy: What do you think?
spies4Damon: And some notes on my last Faizah conversation: She questioned Kip's claim on Singe's roll and the extent of it.
spies4Candy: What's your guess?
spies4Damon: My insinct is no.
spies4Candy: Let's see
spies4Candy: I had my period last week if that helps
spies4Damon: And then she backtrackd after questioning the roll and said her instict was to believe Kip.
spies4Damon: I hear that sex changes are prevelent in the US
spies4Candy: Dutch people are more accepting of that, word on the street
spies4Candy: I can't tell you my name obviously
spies4Damon: We're more acceptive of everything.
spies4Candy: But I was born a girl and I'm still a girl and I plan on staying a girl
spies4Damon: spies4Faizah: I suspect Singe majorly, but I dont think he will go. I also suspect Leon, and I think he might....so I will probably push for Leon
Damon: I'm more concerned about catchin a Spy and less concerned with proving a theory of Candy's true. I would say that my top list of suspects changes with the weather. It's hard to judge with this few left but if we will be honest at the moment I would label Singe, Leon, you and Summer as the top tier of suspects for me.
spies4Candy: Ouch, wrong on like 3
spies4Damon: Who said that was what I Actually believed?
spies4Damon: I was talking to a dead woman who was likely a Spy.
spies4Candy: HAHA
spies4Candy: OK
spies4Damon: And that was the ONLY 1 on 1 conversation I had with Faizah.
spies4Candy: The entire fucking game?
spies4Candy: What?
spies4Damon: Yup
spies4Damon: And the first group conversation.
spies4Candy: That's pathetic
spies4Damon: I count myself lucky
spies4Candy: Sheesh
spies4Candy: Why Faizah was a morning person
spies4Candy: spies4Faizah: just in the past hour I have thought Damon, Naomi, Zander, and Bev were all spies
spies4Faizah: Its so weird how you can almost make a case against anyone.

spies4Damon: Faizah was a morning person? I would've seen more of her if she was.
spies4Candy: She talked to Hannah then - her morning Hannah's afternoon
spies4Candy: spies4Candy: Naomi thinks Damon's a spy
spies4Candy: And her opinion is still valid whether she's a spy or a citizen
spies4Faizah: yea
spies4Faizah: well the thing with this time is even if a spy is found out, they could still be telling the truth to try and get out another spy
spies4Faizah: Thats a good dynamic for US
spies4Faizah: so lets say Naomi goes tomorrow and is a spy, somehow she knows or has a pretty good idea Damon is an opposing spy, and is STILL trying to get him out
spies4Faizah: It really helps us
spies4Damon: Naomi was pitifully trying to get attention drawn away from herself in that post. Bev was doing similar things too.
spies4Candy: spies4Naomi: broad generalities
spies4Naomi: a spy tactic
spies4Naomi: its like...
spies4Naomi: posting with no content
spies4Candy: What else would you post on your first day in the game though?
spies4Naomi: dude
spies4Naomi: he had PLENTY to go on
spies4Candy: She's saying you do the same thing MAGIC BOY does
spies4Candy: spies4Naomi: so that's what I'm saying. he posts those generalities because he wants to say, "hey I posted lots, I'm not a lurker." when he is lurking because he doesn't take a side at all
spies4Naomi: he just stands on the sidelines
spies4Naomi: waiting for us to kill each other off

spies4Candy: And this part is what everyone's afraid of
spies4Damon: And I still got called a lurker LOL
spies4Candy: spies4Naomi: inactive =/= lurker

spies4Damon: That was the point I made in one of my very first posts.
spies4Candy: Well find good stuff on Zander because if you convince Kip and Summer and Leon that you're the citizen and he's the spy, you stay
spies4Damon: And we win.
spies4Candy: And win
spies4Damon: Are you sharing this with Leon and everyone too?
spies4Damon: (I really ahve to go soon)
spies4Candy: Yep
spies4Candy: Share the info
spies4Candy: Catch the spy
spies4Candy: OK kick some spy ass Damon
spies4Candy: If you're a spy just let them exile you OK?
spies4Candy: And I'll tell Singe you miss his manboobs
spies4Damon: No, dear. You misread my Borsten statement
spies4Damon: I'm not the last Spy. I swore that on MY boobs.
spies4Candy: HAHAHAHA
spies4Damon: Have a good weekend. If you are Imprisoned I can't lie and say it's been a pleasure playing with you but it's been entertaining. I hope you and I are both right and that Zander is the last standing Spy so we can end this mess on Monday. Take care.

[Kate (Damon)]

Session Start (spies4damon:spies4Summer): Sun Dec 02 19:48:02 2007
spies4Damon: Hello Summer!
spies4Summer: Hi Damon!
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spies4Summer: I didn't know you were here or I would have IMed you
spies4Damon: How was your weekend?
spies4Damon: I'm only somewhat here. Getting ready for bed. Even though it's almost 9 LOL
spies4Summer: My weekend so far has been very hectic, between papers and studying for finals, but I am taking a moment to relax and get my time for spies in
spies4Summer: How was your weekend?
spies4Damon: It was good. Easy day yesterday and was in Germany today.
spies4Damon: Obviously I'm very tired which is why I was preparing to go to bed. But since I so rarely talk to you I thoght I could put it off for a while longer.
spies4Summer: Well thank you for saving some Summer time for me
spies4Summer: I'm very flattered
spies4Summer: I guess we all saw Candy's imprisonment coming
spies4Damon: She certainly did.
spies4Summer: I wish I had a chance to talk to her before she left but we did PM back and forth
spies4Damon: We chatted last night about the impending Imprisonment.
spies4Damon: Civilly too, I was very proud of us.
spies4Summer: Did she go gracefully or was she angry?
spies4Summer: Wow :-)
spies4Damon: Quite graceful. I was impressed. Don't tell her that
spies4Summer: i won't!
spies4Damon: LOL
spies4Damon: As far as I'm concerned it comes down to Leon or Zander. As far as Candy was concerned it comes down to Zander or me. I don't know what you, Leon or Kip are thinking at this moment.
spies4Summer: So now that she and Singe aren't here, we're in control of the exile ... I'm excited that someone else gets a chance to prove themselves
spies4Damon: I would have to agree with that assessment.
spies4Damon: It's time for ust to step in and steal the show.
spies4Summer: Well I'm still dubious about Leon
spies4Summer: I've looked over his voting record
spies4Summer: He's voted for spies 70% of the time
spies4Summer: He's received voting penalties twice
spies4Summer: And Faizah tried to set him up
spies4Summer: I don't think he's our last spy
spies4Damon: You know what I was beginning to wonder? No chance to chase this myself but I'll look in the morning. Could it be likely that he accepted the penalties during a vote that could've given something or anything away?
spies4Summer: Well the first time was for not posting conversations
spies4Damon: After speaking to Candy and seeing what she posted against Zander he is who I'm lenaing towards. But I'm still questioning Leon.
spies4Summer: The second time was for not voting and not posting conversations
spies4Summer: How long does it take you to vote, Damon?
spies4Summer: I always vote right after imprisonment, just in case
spies4Summer: If I was a spy I would still do the same thing
spies4Summer: You can always change your vote
spies4Damon: I usually post a vote sometime during the day it's due.
spies4Damon: Precisely
spies4Summer: I think Leon is a careless citizen
spies4Summer: So my vote this episode will not be for him
spies4Summer: Unless something drastic happens
spies4Summer: I also think voting for Kip would be very foolish
spies4Summer: Faizah almost exiled him, twice
spies4Damon: I've marked Kip as a confirmed Citizen in my Journal.
spies4Summer: So for me it is between you and Zander, but I am very heavily leaning towards Zander.
spies4Damon: And I've been trusting him since our last families.
spies4Summer: Yes, I've trusted him as well
spies4Summer: I really regretted voting for him in exile 9-2
spies4Summer: I read your post on Zander
spies4Summer: I think there's a lot to say about how much fluff he posts
spies4Damon: I thought so too.
spies4Summer: I've reviewed the last 5 pages of the burg - I'm working from the beginning
spies4Summer: ALL of his posts are fluff
spies4Summer: ALL of them
spies4Damon: I was going to do a more in depth post analysis tomorrow if I had the time at work. But I wanted to answer Candy's ppints against me first.
spies4Summer: Remember the "Post who you'd investigate" thread?
spies4Damon: He never posted anyone.
spies4Summer: He didn't say who he'd investigate
spies4Damon: Candy brought this up last night too.
spies4Summer: The "Post who you suspect" thread? Never
spies4Summer: Well it's true
spies4Damon: I know. It's true and it's a big point.
spies4Damon: All I have when it comes to Zander is the Burg stuff. I had like 2 conversations with him otherwise.
spies4Summer: That's all?
spies4Summer: He's been very approachable
spies4Damon: But not online the same times as me.
spies4Damon: The time zone takes a much harder toll than I thought it would.
spies4Summer: I'm sorry to hear that :-(
spies4Damon: I've missed you a lot too.
spies4Summer: Emotionally? :-)
spies4Damon: For a while it literally was Masaki, Kip and Singe. And that was it. Then a little of Candy when I could tolerate her, which was really this round only, and now I'm startin to see more people crop up.
spies4Damon: Emotionally and physically. I dream about your blue eyes every night.
spies4Summer: Oh my goodness! ;-)
spies4Summer: I'm glad that we get to talk now and then
spies4Summer: Have you talked to Kip or Leon at all about this exile?
spies4Damon: Kip, a few nights ago, was leaning towards Zander as well.
spies4Damon: Hopefully we can get everyone to agree but if there's a split and you, Kip and I vote Zander that could be enough.
spies4Summer: I agree
spies4Summer: My biggest worry is that we'll be set on Zander for today and then at the last minute tomorrow we'll flop
spies4Damon: My last minute tomorrow will likely be around 6pm EST
spies4Summer: But so far there haven't been any last minute rushes ... except for the Masaki blindside ... so this could be an unfounded fear
spies4Summer: Are you not going to come to the exile?
spies4Damon: I'll wake up for it.
spies4Damon: But I try to set my alarm close enough to the actually time LOL
spies4Summer: Could you try to be there 20 minutes earlier?
spies4Damon: Sam even suggested I wait 20 minutes into Exile to sign on. He said he would IM me "Finale" or "Not".
spies4Summer: I don't envy your position
spies4Damon: I can try but I can't promise that my body will react favorably.
spies4Summer: Mine certainly wouldn't.
spies4Summer: You don't seem that concerned
spies4Damon: I wish someone had ability to text internationally but it's not a big deal. I woke up for the last knowing it was the Finale and went back to sleep dissapointed and cursing. This time I'm feeling comfident again.
spies4Damon: Concerned?
spies4Summer: About exile
spies4Summer: And yourself
spies4Summer: But I don't think you're as emotionally involved in this game as most of the others are
spies4Damon: I have faithi n you and Kip to make educated decisions. AT this point there's not much more I can do to prove that I'm a Citizen. I'll make my ppints in the morning but I know I am and I just have to have faith in my own game play to this point that it'll help prove it to me. I'm confident that Znader or Leon are the last Spies. If not that means it's you or Kip and I don't see that being the case. And generally speaking I'm a really laid back person and I don't become emotionally involved in much. Even with real life activities. Probably why my relationships never last.
spies4Summer: Well that's very honest
spies4Summer: I appreciate that
spies4Damon: There's no reason to hide anything and I never have intentionally hidden anything throughout the game so why start now?
spies4Summer: I did have something I wanted to ask
spies4Summer: Did anyone try to talk you into not voting Faizah in episode 10?
spies4Damon: In 10? Besides Faizah? No. I'll go double check my Journal but nothing jumpd out at me.
spies4Damon: Let me go look .
spies4Summer: Thank you
spies4Damon: Converations with Singe.. Singe again... agian.. Faizah (of course tried to pin it on Leon).. with Kip.. Candy...Singe... Candy...Kip.... Singe.... You.... Zander (who claimed to have his vote on Faizah for a while) and Singe
spies4Summer: So only Faizah herself?
spies4Damon: Yup.
spies4Summer: One more question
spies4Summer: What was your take on Naomi back in episodes 4 5 and 6?
spies4Damon: Let me review again. I don't want to give you any hindsite commentaries.
spies4Summer: Thank you!
spies4Damon: If you had asked any of this before I would've given it too. I've never held back information when it was requested. I just never have been able to formulate "good" posts with it.
spies4Damon: 4/5/6 right?
spies4Summer: Yes
spies4Damon: Cain ("Why was Lloyd imprisoned?", initial post) makes some good points about why the Spies would worry themselves over Lloyd. It seems too obvious though but I have to look at the list that Cain posted - the list who Lloyd was suspicious against:
Madison+
Kip+
Ralph+
Naomi+
Zander+
Candy+
spies4Damon: This is from my Observation Thread
spies4Damon: Noami's offense and defense is quite shotty at the moment. It's going a little haywire and I feel like she's turning wheels in mud and losing traction.
Naomi+++
spies4Damon: Noami's continued asasult against my status as a Cit is not only annoying but is bordering on the hyseterical. She's trying too hard to be justified her in post but everything she's calling me out on can be applied to any number of players in the game. Something made me Naomi's choice scapegoat and I'm curious to what itw as.
Naomi++
spies4Damon: Why did Naomi vote me when Beverly and she were in the running to leave? It seems quite fishy to me that she wouldn't vote for Beverly to try and save herself.
Naomi+

Faizah brought up some evidence against Naomi and I have to think that some of it is a little telling. Why would Beverly want to save Naomi? Does it surprise me that Naomi didn't vote Beverly? I don't know but something fishy was going on.
Naomi+

While Bev was targetting Abrams and trying to direct attention that way Naomi was targetting me and trying to draw attention my way. Almost at the same time if I read the time line correctly. In my mind that means that Abrams is less likely to be a Spy because of this since I know I'm not a Spy and we were the 2 they tried to pawn votes off on.
Abrams-
Naomi+

Summer brings up several important points in the "Request from Singe" thread. She mentions the odd speech by Beverly in her final attempt to save herself. Then she mentions Naomi's throw away vote. And Cain passed the tiebreaker to Beverly.
Naomi+
Cain+
spies4Summer: Thank you
spies4Damon: I'm still going through Confessionals themselves.
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spies4Damon: For 5 - I had a lot of dicussions regarding why I had become Naomi's scapegoat. Frustratiosn that she'd done it while I was away, which I found cheap.
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spies4Damon: Episode 5 Journal
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spies4Damon: The current pecking order for Spy candidates is

Beverly
Naomi
Candy

All 3 ladies stand out over everyone else in the game and I have to keep my eyes on them.

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spies4Damon: Naomi's little tirade is beginning to frustrate me. It's like a one woman campaign against me. It's a good thing I didn't trust her to begin with.
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Session Close (spies4Summer): Sun Dec 02 20:26:10 2007


Session Start (spies4damon:spies4Summer): Sun Dec 02 20:30:56 2007
spies4Summer: Sorry Damon, I lost my connection
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spies4Summer: I do know that you wanted to go to bed though
spies4Summer: So if you have already left, good night!
spies4Damon: It's OK
spies4Damon: I sent you a PM
spies4Damon: Can I answer you any more questions?
spies4Summer: Did you receive anything I wrote?
spies4Damon: Nope
spies4Summer: What was the last thing you saw?
spies4Damon: Thank you
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:22:34 PM): I ask because the Orthodoxy spies knew Naomi was a spy
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:23:08 PM): And the people who made Exile 5 (Beverly v. Naomi) about Naomi's status rather than Beverly are the ones who are more likely to be spies
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:24:00 PM): For example, Faizah who told Candy that she heavily suspected Beverly, but then voted Naomi instead
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:24:18 PM): Zander seemed very sure at the time that Naomi was a spy and voted accordingly
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:24:24 PM): You didn't focus on Naomi
spies4Summer: spies4Summer (3:24:27 PM): You focused on Beverly
spies4Summer: And you voted for her
spies4Damon: I focused on stupid Bev since 2 LOL
spies4Summer: *Giggle*
spies4Summer: Well Zander and Faizah were VERY eager to exile Naomi
spies4Summer: And you seemed to have questioned her status
spies4Damon: But I wasn't yet ready to axe her.
spies4Summer: Well looking at Faizah, the Orthodoxy spies were
spies4Summer: What I'm saying is, this doesn't make you look like a spy
spies4Damon: That's something to keep in mind. I think I'm coming to like these one on one discussions because it's obvious that I've gone straight to my Journal to pull all of this out without doctoring it up.
spies4Damon: I hate it when someone posts a whole bunch of converations as their alibi.
spies4Summer: So do I
spies4Summer: First, it's against the rules
spies4Summer: But also, it's easy to fake
spies4Damon: Point and point.
spies4Summer: I could show you the chat that I had with Gordy and Angelica where I brought up Faizah and Angelica refused to discuss it
spies4Summer: And then I could show you how I panicked in my confessional because I was sure that Angelica and Gordy had to be spies as well
spies4Summer: But you could say "It could be faked"
spies4Summer: So what's the point?
spies4Damon: It stil could be faked but it would take an aful lot of preparation and thought to go and do that much faking if you're giving it to me right when I ask for it
spies4Damon: But right now that's the least of my worries. I should get to bed. I got no sleep last night and have been up since 5.30am
spies4Summer: All right
spies4Summer: It was good to talk to you
spies4Summer: Good night Damon
spies4Summer: Vote now okay?
spies4Summer: You can always change it later
spies4Damon: I'll do it while I post this conversation.
spies4Summer: All right
spies4Damon: All voted. I'll talk to you tomorrow I hope.

[Kate (Damon)]

MR. ACTIVE

Damon: Hello
spies4Zander: Hey there
Damon <AUTO-REPLY> : weg
spies4Zander: sorry I missed you earlier
Damon: It's OK. I didn't see an away message so I didn't know if you were online or not.
spies4Zander: Yeah I forgot to put one up before I went to bed
Damon: That explains it.
spies4Zander: yeah hah
spies4Zander: so, any thoughts on tonight?
Damon: If I'm going to be honest I'm leanin towards you with a possibility of Leon. My vote at the moment is for you.
spies4Zander: I figured as much
Damon: I'm a honest player and I don't blindeside so I thought you deserved to know.
spies4Zander: Yeah, Summer basically didn't tell me who she was voting for but I imagine it's you Kip and Summer against me... To be honest my vote is for you right now. I know that if it's not you it's Leon
Damon: I was speaking with Summer last night and I haven't gotten to speak to Kip for a few nights. I haven't seen Leon online at the same times as me. I would hate to get this wrong again but I just have a gut feeling it's you.
spies4Zander: I really don't want to leave, but whatever lol. That's not a good reason to not exile me... And if I run around defending points made against me it's like "OMG SPY"
Damon: Defend away. I happen to believe that a strong defense is the only way to prove your not a Spy. What else are you goin to do? Sit in your accusations and steam?
spies4Zander: Actually a lot of times spies are over-defensive
spies4Zander: it really works both ways
spies4Zander: And I can sit there and explain through everything anyway and people really won't believe it. A lot of those conversations with Candy that she posted either don't prove points she's trying to make or are completely circumstancial or taken out of context, so it's like why bother?
spies4Zander: If she wanted to suspect me or believe something, she was going to do it whether she had to stretch or not
spies4Zander: I'm just not happy she picked me to go next when I wanted to help us win
Damon: Despite a lot of the stretch remarks on her part I happened to see validity in some of the others she mentioned, especially when we were talking one on one.
Damon: The way I see it.. on the off chance you're a Cit.. is that Kip, a confirmed Cit, will be the next Imprisoned.. then it's down to Summer/Leon/me. At which stage it'll become a nightmare becaues do I vote to Exile Leon who I've suspected for some time or do I start to look at Summer and wonder what the hell is up? I'm really hoping its you. The signs point that way and my gut too.
spies4Zander: That's what scared me, too. Because she tried to do that a lot with Cain to me... She also did it with a lot of spies but, yeah
spies4Zander: And I hate how people say I was working closely with Candy
spies4Zander: Candy and I talked all the time, but I almost never thought the same way or voted the same way as her, or how she wanted me to
spies4Zander: she yelled at me for like an hour about not voting for Kip
spies4Zander: Summer is the one that followed Candy as closely as possible, but nobody even wants to analyze that
Damon: So did Hannah and we messed up there. Problem is that the Spies in this game, especially this last, have adapted well.
spies4Zander: Well if you're going to make that point, look at how much more vocal you became after almost all the spies were gone
Damon: OK Pot.
spies4Zander: Wow you are an ass.
Damon <AUTO-REPLY> : weg
Damon: I became vocal when Singe and Candy did the "Let's Exile Damon" post. And when my vacations ended.
Damon: Not an ass. Just a limited bullshit tolerance.
spies4Zander: I wasn't going "OMG YOU'RE A SPY BECAUSE OF THIS". I was pointing out how your logic also applies to yourself
spies4Zander: Do you seriously think you're the most active player around? And you don't think it seems odd that you yourself said especially after Episode VIII you became much more vocal?
Damon: I called you a Pot because you seemed to be doin the same. The only time you spoke up was for Masaki mainly.
spies4Zander: So I point that out and you freaked
Damon: I have never said I was the most active player.
Damon: I didn't freak, I merely pointed out that you were behaving in a contradictary manner.
spies4Zander: So you became defensive when people wanted to exile you? That's pretty suspicious too
spies4Zander: I wasn't being contradictory
spies4Zander: I was applying your logic to yourself
Damon: I have continually acknolwedged that I was medicore in activity at best. But everyone makes me out to be the least active in the end game and that's a white lie.
Damon: If you're going to call me inactive look in a mirror first. I'm tired of the bullshit that Candy toted about like that
spies4Zander: I honestly don't believe that, but that's not ht eargument at hand either
spies4Zander: Are you serious? I am not inactive
spies4Zander: I am arguably the most active person left
Damon: Your last 25 posts were dominated by fluff and required posts.
Damon: LOL
Damon: OK. Sure
spies4Zander: You are SUCH a jackass. Have you compared my last 25 posts to your last 25 posts? Do I need to compare how many posts I've made in my confessional or how many conversations I've had to you?
Damon: Go ahead. You would be surprised.
spies4Zander: If you're not the spy then you're an ignorant douchebag
Damon: Or a douchebag that is sick of the double standards in this game.
spies4Zander: I'M NOT INACTIVE. HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY I'M THE MOST INACTIVE PERSON LEFT
Damon: LOL
Damon: Why don't you post a little more than just "I don't want to defend myself becau eit's Spyish". Let's hear some actual thoughts from you instead of your continued shadowing in this game.
spies4Zander: My continued SHADOWING? Every time I spoke my mind people were like "Whatever" (SINGE). When have you spoken your mind when it wasn't a convenient defense?
Damon: I'm not claiming I am the most active participate left.
Damon: You are.
Damon: So let's look at your so called activity.
Damon: Because I'm not seeing it.
spies4Zander: I don't have to sit there and whine and defend myself to save me cause I'm innocent, and wasting my time isn't in my goals. And I'd love to post the most thorough case I could against you, but there isn't one. And you know why? Cause no one talks about you. No one thinks about you. Spies and citizens. How convenient is that?
spies4Zander: Oh it's fine Damon. when you exile me and win the game, you can take a look at my confessional.
Damon: So you're admitting your a Spy.
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