Lloyd
Lloyd
FREEZE! Drama poilce
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Post by Lloyd on Feb 9, 2008 19:25:41 GMT -5
Bye all. Good Luck, and get those spies for me.
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Sherri
Sherri
MILF (also featured on Girls Gone Wild 1986!)
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Post by Sherri on Feb 10, 2008 6:37:17 GMT -5
Day Two - Final Vote CountSinge --> Singe, Singe Zander --> Kip Lloyd --> Kip Ralph --> Kip Kerry --> Kip Masaki --> Lloyd Kip --> Lloyd Adelaide --> Lloyd Kip . loses his second life. Lloyd loses his final life... He is dead. Lloyd was a... Citizen.----------------------------- Vigilante and Spies send in your choices. Night Two Deadline: February 11, 7:00 CST
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Adelaide
Adelaide
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Post by Adelaide on Feb 10, 2008 8:34:49 GMT -5
Okay Zander if you're going to hit anyone it should be Kip. I am a citizen, I just helped finish off a Citizen and I feel that I owe to everyone to do my best to stay in the game. To help prove my identity, Kip showing up as Mafia will finally put your minds at rest as to me being a Citizen! So don't go for me! Go for Kip!
We need to look at other possibilites;
The Inanes/Agreeables/Quiets: Kerry (Hannah) Ralph (To some extent)
The Scatterbrains/Lack of consistencies/Hard to categorise: Kip Masaki (Lloyd)
The Overdefensives: Adelaide Singe
The confirmed/roles: Zander
There is a point to these categories I'll say later.
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Sherri
Sherri
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Post by Sherri on Feb 10, 2008 8:51:54 GMT -5
That's 7:00 pm.
Also Spies, you have two lives to take away for this night.
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
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Post by Zander on Feb 10, 2008 12:50:46 GMT -5
*Giggles* I'm not the vigilante Good luck figuring it out, mafia!
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Kip
Kip
The Spy Catcher ~ Prince Kip
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Post by Kip on Feb 10, 2008 13:01:51 GMT -5
Sigh. I guess my time it up. Look at Kerry guys.
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
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Post by Masaki on Feb 10, 2008 13:24:50 GMT -5
I really don't think it's Kip, but whatever.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 11, 2008 4:10:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure who the vig is, but I really think they should hit Kerry, Masaki or Ralph. There are too many mafia candidates with no damage taken, and we are close to being in a precarious mathematical situation unless we guarantee that the mafia have taken damage.
Kerry and Ralph, please share with us your opinions of Zander, Kip and Adelaide. And your opinion of each other--why do you appear to be working as a team that trusts one another?
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
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Post by Zander on Feb 11, 2008 13:43:34 GMT -5
Kerry and Ralph, also please share your opinions on Singe.
Why does he appear to be directing the vig., when he told me that trying to direct an investigation in a previous game is scummy. This is just as scummy. Also, why does he think that Kip and Adelaide shouldn't be vigged? Cardflip still tells us the most info. And Adelaide hasn't even been hit yet. Why is he protecting her?
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Post by Ralph on Feb 11, 2008 14:29:27 GMT -5
me and kerry know each other ouside the game and got good cit reads on each other we are not working together specifically...........as of my opinion on everyone else my mafia suspects right now are kip singe and addy...kip cause i still dont buy his role singe....you ar thhe scummiest of us all and i dont not want us to forget about you and addy i just caut completly read yet and that scares me
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Sherri
Sherri
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Post by Sherri on Feb 12, 2008 1:01:58 GMT -5
The choices has been sent... The vigilante hits... Kip. Kip is now dead. Kip was a Citizen. ... On that same night the Spies made their move and seriously hurt Zander. Zander is now dead. Zander was a.... another Citizen. Five people. Two Spies. ========================================== Game Triggers and ChangesSince we are now down to five people. Lynching requirements will dramatically change. 1. Player with the most votes is lynched. 2. To lynch now means losing two lives. Day Three Voting Deadline: February 14, 11:59 pm CST (I have a flight during this time)
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
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Post by Zander on Feb 12, 2008 1:07:23 GMT -5
OHNOES![/deathquote]
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
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Post by Masaki on Feb 12, 2008 1:35:24 GMT -5
Singe : 2 Ralph : 3 Adelaide : 3 Masaki : 3 Kerry : 3
14 lives total. Two players are Mafia. 3 are Citizens.
The Mafia have either 5 or 6 lives. This means the Citizens have either 8 or 9 lives.
If we lynch the wrong person, the Mafia will proceed to hit another Citizen down 2 more lives. That's a total of four. Meaning we'd be knocked down to 4 or 5 lives against 6 or 5 Mafia lives respectively. That's a loss right there.
Singe, I told you I'd clear some things up for you. I plan to - but let me hold off until I get in to el trabajo tomorrow.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 12, 2008 3:38:26 GMT -5
Well, it's time to massclaim. I have a role, there's one other Cit with a role, and two mafia who will probably try to make up roles. If they don't, they will stand out like sore thumbs. If they do, we'll probably be able to spot the bogus roles.
Anyone have a problem with spilling it all now? We pretty much have to be perfect from here on in if we're going to win.
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 12, 2008 9:49:49 GMT -5
I support a mass claim and will gladly go first.
Ralph or Singe is scum. I'll post the reasoning later. We have over 2 days to decide which one it is.
In the mean time, NOBODY SHOULD VOTE. We're in Lynch or Lose. Since there are 3 Cits and 2 Spies, a Cit voting a Cit means both Spies can pile their votes on and end the game.
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 12, 2008 9:54:29 GMT -5
Kerry & Adelaide, I need you both to weigh in on this one. Who do you two suspect?
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 12, 2008 9:55:22 GMT -5
Actually, nevermind about the not voting thing. I keep forgetting this game doesn't follow the tradition of instantly ending the day once a majority is reached.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 12, 2008 10:16:59 GMT -5
Masaki and Ralph are telling me about a Plan they hatched to "Trap Singe" a few days ago. But some things about it don't add up. Let me jot these down--the conversations are continuing but my mind is fresh on the suspicions.
* Masaki, Zander and Ralph were all aware of a plan to trap Singe three days ago. * They were to all tell me Kerry had a protective role and then see if she died overnight. * They all understood the Plan hinged on everyone telling me the same LIE. * First person I talked to last night was Zander, and he told me Kerry's OFFENSIVE role, not a protective role. * I also talked to Ralph and Masaki. One told me Kerry had a protective role, one told me she had an OFFENSIVE role. * Knowing full well that I was being lied to by at least one person, I've played dumb since then to see who's really trying to trap me and who's PRETENDING to. * Right now I am wondering if it's possible there never WAS a trap plan, and something else weird happened that caused three people to tell me three different roles. Or if this was an attempt by someone to set me up for a fall today.
More later, I'm still at work.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 12, 2008 10:21:36 GMT -5
Also, Kip entrusted me with the Tiebreaker role when he died. Fortunately for the two of you who are Cits, I'm a Cit and will try not to fuck up the endgame tiebreaker decision again this game. If I die, I have to pass the tiebreaker along, and obviously if I die next, whoever I pass the tiebreaker to decides the game, so the game is very likely now in my hands. Gah... I could really use a little more from each of you about your suspicions.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 12, 2008 10:56:14 GMT -5
Kerry, did either of these guys tell you about their plan to sacrifice you last night? If you had died, who were your two "suicide bomb" targets?
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Adelaide
Adelaide
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Post by Adelaide on Feb 12, 2008 11:17:33 GMT -5
I seriously suspect Ralph his mannerisms like agreeing with people on suspects for not much reason and listing suspect reasons that are extremely incomprhensible (will find the quote). I also suspect Kerry for being extremely quiet. And in my books thats always a good reason to suspect someone. Ralph seems to be in on many "plans"
Singe is the only person of the original 3 hit in first round left (other 2 Zander and Ralph) just reminding.
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Post by Ralph on Feb 12, 2008 23:08:36 GMT -5
good point addy......as for agreeing with people on suspects i have been trying to make sure we dont hand spies the extra night killl....i have been farely confused on who is scum so i have just been trying to make sure we dont lose a lynch
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Post by Ralph on Feb 12, 2008 23:10:22 GMT -5
the 2 people i most suspect are addy and singe....rasoning behind it is....they both were earl suspicions form mafia and since then have flowns somwehat (addy more than singe) UTR being like shit i almost caught myself oncve let me make sure it dosent happen again.....me masaki and kerry ahave palyed basically the same way the whole time
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 13, 2008 0:13:49 GMT -5
OK, so earlier I said something about Ralph/Singe : Here's the scoop...
Zander and I have been working subtly with one another the past few days... He had been trying to lead people to believe that I was the Vigilante while I've been trying to play the card as well. The thing is, I am not the Vigilante. Sorry, Ralph, but I was hoping you'd take a shot at me if you were Mafia so that Zander could live another day and help us out with another Vigilante kill.
The fact I still have three lives makes me a bit more comfortable with Ralph.
The other "trap" we set up caused a bit of an explosion this morning. It went something like this...
Zander came to me two or three days back telling me that Kerry claimed a role called the "Suicider" or something along those lines. He said that Kip, Ralph and he himself were in a chatroom with Kerry where she dropped hints at having a role. She later told them that her role allowed her to take two shots at someone(maybe separately, I can't recall), when she ran out of lives. Very bad move if that's truly a legit role, but Zander believed it. My idea was to try to use that to steer kills away from Zander(much like with me playing the Vigilante card).
I went to Ralph and told him to spread word that Kerry had a protective role. My hope was that if people got word of that, that hopefully no Mafia knew of Kerry's real role and that they'd take a shot at her instead of Zander. This kills two birds with one stone : it gets Kerry closer to activating her role, while keeping Zander alive.
However, Zander died, and so did Kip. Zander was the Vigilante as far as I can tell. Now, the explosion stemmed from something that occurred last night. I spoke with Singe and told him about Kerry having a doctorish type role - protecting from 1 kill at a %, and 2 kills at a lower %. He bought it. However, once Singe logged off, I spoke to Ralph, asking if he had told Singe about the protective role of Kerry's(the fake one we were lying about). Ralph said he told Singe about a cop type role, but that Singe "already knew about Kerry's role."
I spoke to Singe this morning, and he said that Ralph AND Zander spilled Kerry's role to him. I asked Ralph if that was true, and he denied it. So one of the two is lying, here.
Kerry, I really need you to weigh in here. What is your role called and how does it work exactly? Who do you suspect?
I have three suspects :
1) Singe 2) Adelaide 3) Ralph
I am almost certain Ralph and Singe are not scum buddies. Unless Kerry is playing us(marvelously for a new player), then Adelaide has to be scum by default. Of course, this is from my perspective only, and I do not expect anyone to come to the same conclusion so easily.
Vote : Adelaide
I know you're probably not going to vote Adelaide, Singe. You said you want to vote Ralph. But I just do not feel Ralph as scum. I set the guy up to believe I was the Vigilante. He STILL thought Iwas the Vigilante until I filled him in on what Zander and I were doing about 15 minutes ago.
I showed you two long conversations I had with him about the "trap," and you admit that they are either real, or very cleverly faked.
I've kept my story about the whole mixup straight, not changing any aspect of it when speaking with you.
If you're scum, Singe, you did a great job playing me, but I've gotta go with Adelaide. I'll listen to whatever anyone has to say, tomorrow.
With regard to the mass claim, I'll gladly go first : I am Vanilla Townie, I have no role whatsoever. I call it the Vanilla Townie curse. Go to my wiki page on Mafiascum. I'm madly cursed with boring roles. :-(
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 13, 2008 1:53:43 GMT -5
Mike, your story has been straight, but the big picture's not adding up right. I have trouble seeing you and Ralph planning this though, if you did, you executed it masterfully, and no offense to each of your skills but I'm betting against on the totality of the evidence. Takes two too perfect scum to tango like that.
Ralph, what's Addy's great point in the above post she made?
Do we have the potential to lynch twice today, Ross? 2 votes per lynch now or just one?
I am cool with Addy's expressed suspicions and reasoning. I don't like that you mention my life status without calling me scummy for it, Addy... what's your stand on that? You appear to be trying to have your cake and eat it too on the topic.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
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Post by Singe on Feb 13, 2008 4:08:09 GMT -5
I went to Ralph and told him to spread word that Kerry had a protective role. My hope was that if people got word of that, that hopefully no Mafia knew of Kerry's real role and that they'd take a shot at her instead of Zander. This kills two birds with one stone : it gets Kerry closer to activating her role, while keeping Zander alive. OK, wait a minute. Ralph, Zander, you and Kip all knew Kerry's "real role". Your hope was that NO Mafia knew of Kerry's real role, and that you'd trap them by making up a fake one for them to believe in. But the only two people who didn't know about the "real role" were Adelaide and myself. So basically, you went to all this effort over three days just to try to trap Addy and I as a scumpair? Crappy odds of success to begin with, from your perspective. But the four of you (mostly Zander and Ralph) botched the plan horridly and you learned nothing, while endangering Kerry if she's a Cit, which you seem to think she is. In the meantime, what were you doing to assess Ralph's, Kip's and Kerry's alignments? I have seen Addy as most innocent all game long, not cleared, but least feasible as scum. So you'll forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of a "plan" that took a ton of effort and was only designed to catch the two most likely Cits in the game... ...plus, you wanted to accelerate Kerry's death, when in my mind there's absolutely no reason to do that if you believe in her role! Finally, did you have to tell Zander any lies to get him to trust you with his role?
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 13, 2008 10:36:46 GMT -5
I went to Ralph and told him to spread word that Kerry had a protective role. My hope was that if people got word of that, that hopefully no Mafia knew of Kerry's real role and that they'd take a shot at her instead of Zander. This kills two birds with one stone : it gets Kerry closer to activating her role, while keeping Zander alive. OK, wait a minute. Ralph, Zander, you and Kip all knew Kerry's "real role". Your hope was that NO Mafia knew of Kerry's real role, and that you'd trap them by making up a fake one for them to believe in. But the only two people who didn't know about the "real role" were Adelaide and myself. Well, I didn't really think about the numbers when I initially talked to Ralph about it. At the time, I was thinking about the people who knew... Zander, who was counting on dying that night, and Kip, who Zander said he'd kill. Ralph, who, against most odds, would survive, and Kerry, the role holder. Then there's me, who I know is a Cit. Thinking back to it I realize there were only two other people, but there's still a slim chance that you two are scum together, so why not take a jab at it? Honestly, it wasn't a huge, time consuming operation. It was simply to spread some rumors about Kerry having a protective role, and hope she wound up getting hit. Endangering Kerry is exactly what we wanted to do!! Her role begs for her to be night killed. I'd say if anything, she'll be last on their hit-list because of how she spilled her role, and how Zander spilled it to you. Now there's a 0% chance that no Mafia knows about the role, and that basically ruined a perfectly good opportunity to put it to use. Again, I was banking on Kip getting clipped, so his alignment was a null-factor. I explained to you how I planned to test Ralph : by having both Zander and I lead him on to believe I was the Vigilante. And as a result of my continued lack of injury, I choose to lend him some favor. As for Kerry, I haven't been able to catch her online yet, so there is not a whole lot I can do. I can only, at this time, think about the game, its setup, and the fact that I find the scenario of her making up the role, or her buddy making up one so clever, to be less likely than its validity.
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 13, 2008 11:21:27 GMT -5
Adelaide, Kerry, either of you alive? If you wouldn't mind logging onto AIM before the deadline hits, I'd be forever grateful. Right now Singe, Ralph and I are practically running the game.
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Adelaide
Adelaide
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Post by Adelaide on Feb 13, 2008 12:48:03 GMT -5
Im alive very busy, I see a vote for me and let me tell you thats bad news, I'm a citizen. I need to make a bug post today and I will. Give me an hour.
There is an example of Ralph's scummy posting btw, "great point".
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Masaki
Masaki
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Post by Masaki on Feb 13, 2008 14:51:41 GMT -5
Sherri, what happens if we no-lynch today?
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