Faizah + Hannah

[Singe]

Post evidence here that demonstrates whether or not a Faizah+Hannah spypairing is likely.

For example: Hannah's avoiding the Faizah suspicions thread.
Also, this at exile 2:
spies4Faizah (9:25:36 PM): And not that it matters to anyone, but I am very sure Hannah isnt a spy.

Would Faizah really say this about a spypartner?

If you have a conversation of either of these two talking about each other, please consider posting it

[Singe]

holy schneikes batman:

spies4Singe (3:20:48 PM): who do you see as a very likely cit
spies4Singe (3:21:07 PM): if you had to guess one or two
spies4hannah (4:22:03 AM): um
spies4hannah (4:22:18 AM): angelica and faizah i think
spies4Singe (3:21:26 PM): ok
spies4Singe (3:21:32 PM): how about adelaide
spies4Singe (3:21:35 PM): or emma
spies4hannah (4:22:48 AM): not really sure bout adelaide, probly emma

No WAY does Hannah list her two Spypartners as her top two choices for Cit, LOL!

[Candy]

WIFOM.

[Faizah]

She is totally my partner.

[Singe]

Angie, Faizah and Hannah are the only ones to vote for Martha and Madison in the first 2 consecutive rounds.

Agreed, it's WIFOM, but again, all three girls acted in concert. Ask yourselves if you really think these three would have glued themselves to each other as a spy trio.

[Hannah]

plus if ppl have read the convo i posted which i had with Angie, u will notice i was unaware that she was a spy at the time

[Candy]

Singe I don't know why you don't see this:

Episode 1:

- ONLY citizens voted for Kiyoshi

- I voted Bunni

- Summer voted Lloyd

- Damon didn't vote

- Leon voted Bev, which was an indirect vote for Martha (she was in his family so he couldn't directly vote for her but his vote made it so Kiyoshi didn't get extra votes that would exile him over Martha)

- Kip, King Singe, Pudgette, Faizah, MAGIC BOY, and Beetle (indirectly) all voted Martha.

So unless Damon or Summer is a spy (and I don't think either is!), the Orthodoxy all voted together for Martha. Get a known strong spies player out of the game. Makes total sense to me.

We know all 4 Traditionalists did it!

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spies4Gordy: [In LL] Martha always kept saying Hannah was an Ortho
spies4Gordy: And hell, Martha was the one who pushed for Angelica's exile in round 1
spies4Gordy: so it was easy for the spies to gang up on her

I've checked my convos and Gordy's right.
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And then if Hannah was a spy they would all need to vote together to get a majority for someone else to protect Hannah. That might explain why they all changed their votes last minute to Madison.


"Ask yourselves if you really think these three would have glued themselves to each other as a spy trio."

DUH

[Candy]

Also you're pretty ridiculous for assuming Faizah's a spy when she hasn't been proven as one yet.

[Hannah]

*is not a spy*

[Leon]

Just like to point out, that doing all these things together is an easy cover. Think about it. No one would suspect the three of them to be spies because they did those things. Vote together, list as top cit suspects. It could just be an easy cover.

"Ask yourselves if you really think these three would have glued themselves to each other as a spy trio."

Exactly my point. You guys arent suspecting it, because they wouldnt do that. Where they actually could do that, so that you wont suspect them. But like you said, WIFOM.

[Singe]

Hannah gave her points to Gordy, right after Ang did. Not subtle

[Hannah]

*sigh*

I gave my points to gordy BECAUSE beverly and gordy told me they were going to investigate angelica. let me go find the chat...

[Hannah]

(7:18:01 AM) spies4Beverly: IM IN REAL GOOD WITH GORDY
(7:18:05 AM) spies4Beverly: AND WE ARE INVESTIGATING ANGELICA
(7:18:14 AM) spies4Beverly: AND SHES EITHER
(7:18:17 AM) spies4Beverly: A GREAT CITIZEN
(7:18:20 AM) spies4Beverly: OR A HELLA GOOD SPY
(7:18:37 AM) spies4Beverly: SO WE EITHER NEED HER IF SHES A CIT
(7:18:41 AM) spies4Beverly: OR NEED HER GONE FAST IF SHES A SPY

[Hannah]

(7:38:03 AM) spies4hannah: i will miss u anyway spy girl
(7:38:03 AM) spies4Angelica <AUTO-REPLY> :
(7:39:10 AM) spies4Angelica: I could tell you Gordy's lying, but you wouldn't believe me anyhow. So whatever. Guess I'm going to the Losers Lounge, at least I'll have the last laugh.
(7:39:48 AM) spies4hannah: i never suspected u once tho, so i guess that means u did ur job well
(7:40:07 AM) spies4hannah: i'll admit i will miss chatting to u
(7:40:31 AM) spies4Angelica: Why do people insist on trying to get me to admit to being a Spy?
(7:41:00 AM) spies4hannah: um...i dunno
(7:43:32 AM) spies4hannah: but did u enjoy the game at least?
(7:46:02 AM) spies4Angelica: Yeah, I'm just pissed it's ending with this crap. Gordy of all people... I never would have expected it.

[Singe]

From my confessional:

Re: Episode III Thoughts
« Reply #4 on Oct 20, 2007, 4:32am »

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hannah-cit

This was after we chatted for about an hour. I won't paste the whole thing in, but she seemed to be undefensive, open, and hunting spies like a banshee. It's rare that I get a vibe strong enough to make a call on alignment, but I called Bunni on tone alone this game, and I was close to doing the same on Hannah a couple times.

[Candy]

My money ($10, two $5s, toilet paper HAHA) is on Pudgette.

Episode 2: Hannah's on thin ice exile-wise and Bev's trying to get exile votes for her. Angelica and Faizah didn't want to go along with it. Lots of quotes to support this.

spies4Beverly: CAN WE JUT
spies4Beverly: VOTE FOR HANNA LOLL
spies4Beverly: SO I CAN SAY
spies4Beverly: "PUDGE" AS MY REAOSN
spies4Candy: This Hannah girl
spies4Candy: She's here
spies4Singe: your best friend Pudge?
spies4Beverly:
spies4Candy: Who is she?
spies4Angelica: I really don't think Hannah's a Spy Bev.

And again:

spies4Beverly: MY VOTE IS FOR HANNAH
Spies4 Jeremiah: I can't vote for grace, even though I want to.
Spies4 Jeremiah: Families and all.
spies4Candy: I'm voting Hannah too
spies4Faizah: Who votes at an exile, but doesnt come online or post???
spies4Cain: why are you voting for hannah?
spies4Faizah: It's just weird.
spies4Candy: Because of the posts she makes
spies4Angelica: I think Hannah's a mistake.
spies4Beverly: I THINK HANNAH FAKES THAT SHES HELPIN GINT HE BURG WITH ALL HER SHIT-STIRRING POSTS

[Hannah]

and i have posted convos that clearly indicate that i had no idea either angelica or faizah were spies when i was talking to them, but everyone just seems to ignore that....

[Candy]

Episode 4 Angelica outted Naomi. The Orthodoxy spies know Naomi is a spy.

Episode 5 Zander and Hannah get together and decide to form a voting alliance to oust Naomi. Zander invites Cain and Candy; Hannah invites Gordy, Bev, Singe and Faizah.

[Zander]

Hey guys.


Hannah and I were talking this afternoon, and off the top of our heads we basically shared names of people we trust the most, or think are almost definitely citizens.


Hannah proposed Gordy, Faizah, Beverly, and Singe (In that order)


I agreed and proposed Candy and Cain, in that order.


Hannah agreed with Candy and somewhat agreed with Cain.


We have chosen to exclude Cain and Beverly from this private message because we want to keep this information secret... And they would probably take it public.

And obviously we trust one another or we wouldn't have been talking about this in the first place


Hannah and I greatly suspect that Naomi is a spy, BUT, if she does turn out to be a spy and everyone votes for her then we learn nothing.


However, if she turns out to be a spy and we can keep a voting block secret, it's possible that we find out some other spies (And no, this is not an Adelaide strategy, we both actually thought htis out and think it can work).



Here's what it needs to work.



We need all of you to let us know if you are on board or not with thinking Naomi is a spy. Singe, I know you can't vote for her but your opinion helps just as much.


We need all of you to STAY QUIET about this, or we may not catch other spies. No, the plan is not perfect and nothing is guaranteed to work. However, if we stay quiet about who we are voting, then the spies gain no inside information about the Naomi vote, and will quiet possibly vote elsewhere.

Basically we are gaining insight to voting strategy, which is one of the easiest ways to catch a spy IMO.


So, what do you need to do?



1. Don't talk to anybody about it (By it I mean the vote and this). If we are all truly citizens then we could have a citizen coalition on our hands and when kept secret, that can win the game for us. In addition to this, we genuinely think Naomi is a spy and it's possible to catch her spy partners in the act by keeping quiet.

2. Come up with an alternative suspect. For example, if Joe says "Hey, who ya votin for?", and you are voting for Naomi, do not say you are voting for Naomi, and do not say another hugely popular suspect like, I don't know, pick your favorite. Saying you are voting for someone like Leon (Just an example) when we have a majority for Naomi is great - the spies would definitely vote for Leon and we could help figure them out. Nobody needs to see we voted Naomi until the votes are revealed, basically, because as soon as the spies get wind, they could vote against her too and we again, learn nothing.

3. Be careful around those you trust that aren't included in this message... Cain and Bev were left out cause they have big mouths, and could easily demolish this spy trap.


4. Respond to everyone in the group with ideas or contributions you might have. If Hannah and my plan works... We could all very well win the game for the citizens with this plan.


Right now we outnumber all of the spies. I think it's time to show them we mean war.



-Z

I invited Candy and Cain, two confirmed citizens, Hannah proposed two spies and two citizens. Also it's interesting to note that I excluded Cain and Beverly from the PMs cause I thought they'd run around telling people and yet later I had that infamous conversation with Bev where she convinced me she was a citizen and then she tells me something along the lines of my idea against Naomi was pretty poorly planned...


She wouldn't tell me who told her... So I would imagine at this point that it was someone in her family, possibly someone who saw she was a spy and wanted her to know the inner workings and relay it to Naomi... Like Faizah or Hannah.

[Candy]

Faizah blabbed. She told me in a convo.

[Hannah]

Re: Episode Four: My conversations
« Reply #1 on Oct 21, 2007, 11:31pm »

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(7:17:49 AM) spies4Angelica: So you're a diva now?
(7:18:05 AM) spies4hannah: lol apparently
(7:18:28 AM) spies4hannah: i get along really well with faizah thats why i joined, and lately bev and i have been on good terms
(7:18:33 AM) spies4Angelica: You're a strong, brave woman. I couldn't deal with Bev.
(7:19:10 AM) spies4hannah: lol, thanks i think? well lets hope i can
(7:19:36 AM) spies4Angelica: So long as there are no more team challenges, I think you'll be fine.
(7:21:05 AM) spies4hannah: lol.

[Hannah]

i changed my vote back and forth this last exile, here is what i wrote in my confessional:

Exile Ten Vote
« Thread Started on Nov 24, 2007, 11:15pm »

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Faizah. I havent been able to pay a huge amount of attention to the game recently as i have been writing some very stressful exams all clumped together, so i am going to take singe's advice and vote faizah.


Re: Exile Ten Vote
« Reply #1 on Nov 25, 2007, 1:38am »

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KIP. actually, i am going to go with my gut this round, because I think faizah has been very genuine personally, and i dont like the way Singe has just taken over and is trying to lead everyone, or the way he came up with possible spy combos and then conveniantly left himself off of it, and i think his role may be bullshit. Thus i am changing my vote to KIP, because he is singe's only possible spy partner, and if Kip comes up spy, then we know singe is as well....

[Hannah]

have u ppl realised that basically only candy has posted why she suspects me? and that no one has been able to counter ALL the evidence that i am a cit???

[Hannah]

me explaining to candy why i am not a spy. read it ppl:

(5:57:14 AM) spies4Candy: Thanks Pudgette
(5:57:27 AM) spies4hannah: jesus candy i am not the fucking spy
(5:57:37 AM) spies4hannah: when the hell did u start suspecting me
(5:57:39 AM) spies4Candy: Seriously it was a better choice than Damon
(5:57:55 AM) spies4Candy: Did Faizah tell you that I knew he couldn't self protect?
(5:58:01 AM) spies4Candy:
(5:58:40 AM) spies4hannah: i actually hadnt chatted to faizah for about two episodes until the day of her exile, altho u seem to have shovedur head up ur ass, so what does it matter
(5:58:47 AM) spies4Candy:
(5:59:12 AM) spies4hannah: u can only take the anti WIFOM theory so far
(5:59:50 AM) spies4hannah: until it is clear that the person is actually a citizen, and u are using the WIFOM thing to explain away all the actions they did as a CITIZEN
(6:00:34 AM) spies4Candy: So why are you a citizen
(6:02:07 AM) spies4hannah: Because from the start of the game i have been doing my best to catch spies. Yes, my gut was very wrong about most of them, but was right about afew. I have tried to encourage ppl to post more, so that as much evidence as possible may be colected, and every now and then tried to play devils advocate to make ppl angry in the hopes they would let something slip.
(6:02:22 AM) spies4hannah: i only started chatting to faizah in around episode three
(6:02:55 AM) spies4hannah: would i really have joined a family with angie first when everyone was still unaware of the two groups and thus the orthodoxy thought there were only 3 spies amongst 2 something ppl? no WAY they condense their numbers like that.
(6:03:19 AM) spies4hannah: would i have then joined a family with faizah? go from a family with one fellow spy into a family with another fellow spy? what the hell would be the point?
(6:03:39 AM) spies4Candy: Becuse it leaves you open to vote for whoever you want
(6:04:14 AM) spies4Candy: That's why Johan did it
(6:04:27 AM) spies4hannah: yes, but it condenses the numbers of the orthodoxy, limiting their influence
(6:04:44 AM) spies4Candy: Hannah, my family had no influence over the way I voted
(6:04:55 AM) spies4Candy: You said in your interview your family only had some mini mafia cheering in your forum
(6:05:35 AM) spies4hannah: yes they did, i am just saying that families did have potential influence, especially at the early stages of the game where alot of ppl were voting as families
(6:06:40 AM) spies4Candy: So you would've been with Angelica randomly
(6:06:45 AM) spies4Candy: And then Faizah misleadingly
(6:07:30 AM) spies4hannah: i missed the opening chat, got online the next day, and in a group chat angie said that she still needed a family and so did i, and thus we joined together.
(6:07:51 AM) spies4hannah: i joined with faizah cos at that point we were chatting a lot and thought she was a good ally.
(6:08:48 AM) spies4hannah: now for one second lets say that u KNOW i am a citizen. THEN who do u suspect, and why?
(6:10:50 AM) spies4Candy: Leon's next in line but it depends who's on Adelaide's list
(6:10:54 AM) spies4Candy: Hopefully I find that out this episode
(6:11:06 AM) spies4Candy: I made it through and so did my choice
(6:11:18 AM) spies4Candy: Let's take a little peeksy into Adelaide's confessional shall we?
(6:11:36 AM) spies4Candy: Hopefully I picked the right episode
(6:11:52 AM) spies4hannah: how do u see whats in her confessional?
(6:12:43 AM) spies4Candy: Fatemaking
(6:12:48 AM) spies4Candy: I posted it in the burg
(6:12:50 AM) spies4Candy: And the spy knows
(6:12:57 AM) spies4Candy: So basically everyone knows the question and the choices
(6:13:03 AM) spies4Candy: You can talk about it
(6:13:27 AM) spies4hannah: did u post it there now?
(6:13:39 AM) spies4hannah: didnt see it just now ehn i checked the burg for posts
(6:13:57 AM) spies4Candy: No
(6:14:01 AM) spies4Candy: I posted it this afternoon
(6:14:16 AM) spies4hannah: what, the choices u were given this episode?
(6:14:38 AM) spies4Candy: Yes
(6:15:49 AM) spies4hannah: with only one spy left how does sam give u two choices?
(6:16:10 AM) spies4Candy: Orthodoxy give me both
(6:16:10 AM) spies4hannah: and who did u pick?
(6:16:19 AM) spies4Candy: I can choose or say neither
(6:16:23 AM) spies4Candy: You'll see
(6:16:40 AM) spies4Candy: I'm just shocked that the Orthodoxy kept me in
(6:16:42 AM) spies4Candy: I mean that's big
(6:17:34 AM) spies4hannah: perhaps they wanted to get rid of singe since he was the only one openly defending me, and thus if i am exiled, the spy gets at least one more round to live.
(6:18:39 AM) spies4hannah: so have u already seen into addy's confessional then? cos it would be good to make it known before the exile so ppl can potentially change their minds
(6:18:51 AM) spies4Candy: Once Sam does it I'll know
(6:18:58 AM) spies4Candy: We're after her last dream list
(6:19:26 AM) spies4hannah: yeah i gathered that from the thread in the burg.
(6:21:54 AM) spies4Candy: Did you think I was going to give it to Leon since I asked you to imprison Damon?
(6:23:17 AM) spies4hannah: well i only just saw ur post about it now, so i didnt even know who the choices were or what they would be getting until a few minutes ago.
(6:24:13 AM) spies4Candy: OK
(6:24:18 AM) spies4Candy: So I love this question
(6:24:21 AM) spies4Candy: Tell me why you ARE a spy
(6:24:26 AM) spies4hannah: hmmm.
(6:26:10 AM) spies4hannah: i suppose i could be seen as a spy, mainly becuase of the anti WIFOM theory. The, we wouldnt likely do this as as spies, so lets do it and ppl wont suspect us, in terms of voting together at some points, and me saying that the top two ppl i trusted way back were angie and faziah, which basically made stick to them like glue, to use a phrase of singe's.
(6:26:30 AM) spies4hannah: however, as i have said, there is only so far that theory can go...
(6:27:44 AM) spies4Candy: OK
(6:27:55 AM) spies4Candy: So who do you think the last spy is
(6:28:12 AM) spies4hannah: also, why would i, in this last exile, specifically have voted for Kip and not for Faizah, when everyone basically knew she was going to be exiled. I guarantee the last ortho spy voed for her to not stand out like a sore thumb, like i did.
(6:28:50 AM) spies4Candy: You thought there was a chance I'd change my vote
(6:28:56 AM) spies4Candy: I know what I PMed Faizah
(6:29:47 AM) spies4hannah: on that subject i am rather torn actually. I dont think its damon, i think there are some strong cases against leon, but ppl seem to have just forgotten about zander and summer. I have trusted zander for most of the game, but i also trusted angie and faizah and bev etc.
(6:30:11 AM) spies4hannah: no theres no way enough ppl would have changed their votes, and also, then i would have voted leon with faizah, not kip.
(6:30:35 AM) spies4Candy: Why did you keep changing your vote? Who were you waffling between?
(6:30:47 AM) spies4hannah: faizah and kip
(6:31:06 AM) spies4Candy: Why would that even make a difference if it was clear Faizah was getting majority?
(6:31:43 AM) spies4hannah: because i wanted to vote according to who believed was a spy, not in accordance with a bandwagon
(6:32:30 AM) spies4Candy: So principle
(6:32:59 AM) spies4hannah: basically yes. i will post my reasons for voting the way i did from my confessional in the burg
(6:42:39 AM) spies4hannah: so have i changed ur mind AT ALL?
(6:42:47 AM) spies4Candy: I'm thinking
(6:42:52 AM) spies4hannah: ok
(6:43:07 AM) spies4Candy: See Kip says that you kept me around because you were using me
(6:43:16 AM) spies4Candy: I know that's why Faizah did it
(6:43:30 AM) spies4hannah: when has anyone ever been able to use u....
(6:43:34 AM) spies4Candy: But if her third partner was Damon that never would've been fine
(6:43:47 AM) spies4Candy: Damon would not have let me stick around for 11 episodes
(6:43:56 AM) spies4Candy: But you would ...
(6:44:07 AM) spies4Candy: So would MAGIC BOY
(6:44:08 AM) spies4hannah: yes, and so would zander and summer and loen
(6:44:12 AM) spies4Candy: Leon no
(6:44:23 AM) spies4hannah: why do u say leon no?
(6:44:30 AM) spies4Candy: He's a beetle
(6:44:34 AM) spies4Candy: We're not tight
(6:44:52 AM) spies4Candy: He never defended me and he said he suspected me
(6:46:39 AM) spies4hannah: okay but, i have a question. If the fatemaker was to be imprisoned, the spies would then no longer get to give u choices to pick between. couldnt that potentially be a bad thing for them in terms of if they wanted to put themsleves up as choices?
(6:46:59 AM) spies4Candy: Faizah did put herself up
(6:47:10 AM) spies4Candy: She exile wanted immunity last episode
(6:47:15 AM) spies4Candy: She wanted exile immunity last episode
(6:47:22 AM) spies4hannah: yes, thus leon mite have kept u around for that reason
(6:47:58 AM) spies4Candy: To get insight in confessionals?
(6:48:06 AM) spies4Candy: What would he have done with it?
(6:48:23 AM) spies4hannah: no, it would mean he could lie about what was in them
(6:48:34 AM) spies4Candy: Ah
(6:48:41 AM) spies4Candy: One small problem with that
(6:49:00 AM) spies4Candy: I didn't actually say I'm letting Leon look
(6:49:15 AM) spies4hannah: yes i know, but in the hopes u would pick him
(6:49:19 AM) spies4Candy: Right
(6:49:21 AM) spies4Candy: The spies wouldn't know that though
(6:49:27 AM) spies4Candy: Only I know who I picked, and the picked person knows
(6:49:37 AM) spies4Candy: Anyway yeah I did pick him
(6:49:38 AM) spies4Candy: BUT
(6:49:49 AM) spies4Candy: I'll know if he's lying.
(6:49:56 AM) spies4hannah: but if leon is the spy, and u picked him, he'll know.
(6:50:02 AM) spies4hannah: how wil u know if he is lying?
(6:50:22 AM) spies4Candy: Let's just say I'll know.
(6:50:33 AM) spies4hannah: alright, i hope ur right.
(6:50:40 AM) spies4Candy: ME TOO
(6:50:51 AM) spies4Candy: I really hope I'm right
(6:51:40 AM) spies4Candy: Did you see what Johan and Gordy wrote for me?
(6:51:42 AM) spies4Candy: I was touched
(6:51:44 AM) spies4hannah: so anyway, u said that leon prob wouldnt have kept u around, then why do u suspect him second to me?
(6:51:51 AM) spies4hannah: why not someone else as ur second suspect?
(6:52:17 AM) spies4Candy: What?
(6:52:46 AM) spies4hannah: u said that after me, u ssupect leon the most. but then u said that u doubted leon would keep u around this long
(6:54:01 AM) spies4Candy: Yeah
(6:54:28 AM) spies4hannah: in other words...then why do u suspect him any more than magic boy or summer?
(6:56:07 AM) spies4Candy: Stupid things
(6:56:22 AM) spies4Candy: Like how he wanted himself investigated
(6:56:31 AM) spies4Candy: And how Angelica in the convos was like "Oh yeah let's ignore Leon"
(6:57:00 AM) spies4hannah: yeah i suppose, but what i found odd was that exile where his head was on the chopping block inwhich he just didnt vote and missed
(6:57:23 AM) spies4Candy: That was weird too
(6:57:26 AM) spies4Candy: What was his deal
(6:57:29 AM) spies4Candy: How did he not vote
(6:57:55 AM) spies4hannah: my logic is that a spy wouldnt do that, but then again my logic is that a spy wouldnt idle out either...and emma did
(7:00:19 AM) spies4Candy: Right
(7:00:23 AM) spies4Candy: Paradox
(7:00:26 AM) spies4Candy: Well not really a paradox
(7:00:38 AM) spies4hannah: right, well, i have to go for now, will hopefully be back online later. hope i have at least got u thinking
(7:01:26 AM) spies4Candy: Yeah ...
(7:01:31 AM) spies4Candy: Good night Hannah
(7:01:33 AM) spies4Candy: You be around for exile?
(7:01:34 AM) spies4hannah: cheers
(7:01:41 AM) spies4hannah: yeah i will definitely be there
(7:01:43 AM) spies4Candy: HAHA
(7:01:44 AM) spies4Candy: Good
(7:01:47 AM) spies4hannah: lol.

[Candy]

Sorry Pudgette but I'm not buying it.

- Pretending not to know what my fatemaking decision was just in case you weren't sure I posted it publically

- "Would a spy really have joined families with both Angelica and Faizah"? (YES)

- "Being torn" about your vote for Faizah when it was obvious she was getting majority - as a citizen you'd know your vote didn't count so why pretend it matters if you're a citizen? Whatever!

- Asking who I picked for fatemaking and then assuming I chose Leon - did you think about this as you gave me the choices? Did you consider that I was lying publically about my choices? No, because you gave them to me.



But the clincher for me:

(6:02:22 AM) spies4hannah: i only started chatting to faizah in around episode three

Faizah said she got close to you in episode 2. That's why when your name came up that exile she was so like "Oh Hannah's definitely not a spy"

The two of you have had such an odd relationship. Cliquey Faizah and bitchy Hannah (you were a huge bitch at the beginning of the game - you aren't anymore, but at the beginning of the game you were SO NEGATIVE) clicked? To the point that Faizah changed her vote to protect you? And you say you didn't get close until episode 3?

Spare me.

[Kate (Damon)]

For once Candy and I are in agreement..

Everything is starting to piece together as we return to old decisions.

What about Episode 2 Hannah? You and I were family and you were absolutely PANICKING over the Exile. It would make sense that your 2 Spy buddies would vote to keep you and send out Madison. If you thought it was going to be that close it would be absolutely necessary to do it.

[Kip]

Why am I not posting in here? Namely because everything I've said about you has already been posted by me in other threads. My mind is made up. I picked you out in Episode Three as a viewer, and solidified it the day of the tie, and I was right about the other two players. There's little chance my mind will be changed.

[Hannah]

I was panicking over the exile because ppl had just decided to vote me and not given me a chance to defend myself, and i really didnt want to leave this game so early.

And yes, i had only chatted to faizah briefly until episode 3.

All i can say is, the evidence is there, choose to ignore it if u will, i have done my best as a citizen for this burg, and said absolutely everything that i can say, and siince u have all already made ur minds up, its no wonder u are ignoring the logic in front of u. If i wasnt so disappointed and wanting us to win i would be tempted to laugh at u all tonight when all ur wonderful 'theories' on why i am such a spy are thrown back in ur faces....

[Candy]

King Singe is suspicious of people who gave their points to Gordy. Earlier in this thread Hannah says she "gave my points to gordy BECAUSE beverly and gordy told me they were going to investigate angelica."

Then in her convo with Angelica she says to Angelica "spies4hannah: i never suspected u once tho, so i guess that means u did ur job well "

Make up your mind.

[Zander]

I don't think the problem is that we're not reading it or that we're ignoring it, I think the problem is that all of your "defense" is circumstancial at best(all of these players minus Candy have been eliminated) and it's also not really a defense. I've said before conversations are editable once people are gone, and some of the ones you have...


Like this:


Re: Episode Four: My conversations
« Reply #1 on Oct 21, 2007, 11:31pm »

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(7:17:49 AM) spies4Angelica: So you're a diva now?
(7:18:05 AM) spies4hannah: lol apparently
(7:18:28 AM) spies4hannah: i get along really well with faizah thats why i joined, and lately bev and i have been on good terms
(7:18:33 AM) spies4Angelica: You're a strong, brave woman. I couldn't deal with Bev.
(7:19:10 AM) spies4hannah: lol, thanks i think? well lets hope i can
(7:19:36 AM) spies4Angelica: So long as there are no more team challenges, I think you'll be fine.
(7:21:05 AM) spies4hannah: lol.



Don't even point to you being a citizen regardless. A spy could definitely have this conversation with another spy, and I don't see how it "clears" you in any way. Also keep in mind that, at least in Spies 3, spies had fake conversations with other spies so they were prepared to deal with interrogations about relationships.


I just want to clarify that I don't hate you, I just think you're the last spy. No hard feelings.