Faizah
Faizah
Accusation Catcher
Posts: 31
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Post by Faizah on Oct 10, 2007 10:28:37 GMT -5
My dear friends,
You are the people in whom I have the most faith. And in the end, this is a game of faith, is it not? Ultimately, however, it is also a game of choices. And the choice you make now may decide whether or not a spy is exiled.
I have done what I said. I have examined the evidence, my dears, I have checked my conversations. I have looked for ideas that people may be cooperating secretly or working to stir up dissent. And from this, I have come up with a name. This name may be wrong. But I'd like you to go out, spread it, and see what kind of reception it gets. If the person I have in mind is a spy, you should expect a lot of resistance. If there is none... I guess we will just have to reconsider before tonight.
The name of the person I think we should target tonight, without any inactive to target instead, is ANGELICA.
Do what you can; and for everything else, trust to the Lord's will.
Your friend
Martha (Mimi).
(Thats a PM I got from Martha....no idea how many others she sent it too......we need to work on her GOING tonight...or we are screwed)
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Post by Angelica on Oct 10, 2007 10:59:16 GMT -5
I swear to God if I go tonight I am quitting Spies FOREVER. I'm not even going to check the board to see how it ends.
I'm not worried yet. But hopefully she sent that to someone other than you who trusts me enough to inform me.
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Post by Angelica on Oct 10, 2007 12:44:52 GMT -5
I think the Martha situation has been defused.
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Post by Angelica on Oct 10, 2007 13:13:09 GMT -5
spies4Angelica (12:32:21 PM): Boy, they really have shoved you into the spotlight, now, have they? spies4Martha (12:32:31 PM): They have indeed. :-) spies4Martha (12:32:51 PM): Oh well, I have fought my way out of worse corners. spies4Martha (12:33:01 PM): Bet do me a favor and answer some of my concerns about you. spies4Angelica (12:33:15 PM): Huh? spies4Martha (12:33:18 PM): For example, did you "egg Bev on" last night in the chatroom? spies4Martha (12:33:22 PM): When she was attacking me? spies4Martha (12:33:30 PM): Because I'm sure a spy was behind that spies4Martha (12:33:35 PM): and you seem to be the only person who "fits". spies4Angelica (12:34:24 PM): No! Quiet the opposite! I was telling her to ignore you. I told her the same thing earlier in the day when you two were bickering in IM. She was pasting it into a group chat. I'm trying to get people to stop fighting. It's counterproductive. spies4Martha (12:34:45 PM): Ok... spies4Martha (12:34:54 PM): In that case, who else was there? spies4Martha (12:35:02 PM): I'm assuming, you see, that a spy was in that chatroom. spies4Martha (12:35:05 PM): At least one. spies4Angelica (12:35:25 PM): I can't remember. I have it saved, hold on, let me check. spies4Angelica (12:37:54 PM): I'm seeing Gordy, Candy, and Summer. At least they're the ones talking. Ady was there too for the beginning of it, but she left the chat I think around the time you started a new one. spies4Martha (12:38:39 PM): Well I can't rule any of them out, although I would think Gordy and Candy would be civillians. :-( spies4Angelica (12:39:57 PM): Out of those three, Candy's the one I'm most hesitant about. I haven't had a chance to talk to her, but I'm told by others that she's kind of out there. Someone said she theorized that there were no Spies at all. Umm... sure... good call. Haha spies4Martha (12:40:10 PM): Haha. :-) spies4Martha (12:40:16 PM): Oh my dear... :-( spies4Angelica (12:40:22 PM): What? spies4Martha (12:40:30 PM): You see I now have people telling me to vote off BEVERLY. spies4Martha (12:40:42 PM): That's almost as bad as Abrams. spies4Angelica (12:40:43 PM): Really? May I ask who? spies4Martha (12:40:51 PM): You may ASK. spies4Angelica (12:41:05 PM): Will you tell me? Haha spies4Martha (12:41:06 PM): Does it matter? I'm not goign to do it. spies4Angelica (12:41:25 PM): No, but it's nice to know who is throwing around who's name. spies4Martha (12:41:51 PM): Well I'm sure you know by now that I've asked people to check reactions about YOU. spies4Martha (12:41:55 PM): ONLY because of that chatroom last night. spies4Angelica (12:42:06 PM): I'm sorry? spies4Martha (12:42:18 PM): I wanted to find out if anybody was prepared to put themselves out to defend you. spies4Martha (12:42:32 PM): Plainly nobody is doing that for Abrams or me, except for Naomi and she can't vote for me anyway... spies4Martha (12:42:53 PM): The point is, the Spies have had TWO DAYS to organise some kind of a defence, on behalf of either of us. spies4Martha (12:42:55 PM): And they haven't. spies4Martha (12:43:13 PM): So turn that around, my dear. spies4Martha (12:43:18 PM): Who WOULD they defend? spies4Angelica (12:43:57 PM): I had no idea! No one mentioned anything to me. I figured you had your concerns when you asked the question, but that was the first I've heard anything of it. spies4Martha (12:44:13 PM): Maybe they're too scared for their own skin... you're not the only name I've thrown out. :-) spies4Angelica (12:44:26 PM): And I do see your point, which is why I've since backed of off Abrams. It's too easy. Like when Winston went with 17 votes in Spies 2. spies4Martha (12:44:31 PM): Exactly. spies4Martha (12:45:07 PM): So I'm trying to find someone who'll raise concerns from people who, shall we say, don't really have a legitimate reason to be concerned? ;-) spies4Angelica (12:45:24 PM): I understand. spies4Martha (12:45:38 PM): So far I've got nothing for you, which means that you're probably safe. spies4Martha (12:45:42 PM): So who else? spies4Angelica (12:48:21 PM): Well, I do remember after you made that noBev chat Gordy mentioned Jeremiah's name. He was concerned because the other night he was very anti-Abrams, then suddenly decided to target someone else, even though he had no other suspects. Summer vetoed that one kind of quickly though. spies4Martha (12:48:45 PM): I've heard that as well, but I didn't realise Gordy threw out Jeremiah's name. spies4Martha (12:48:57 PM): Jeremiah and Summer? spies4Angelica (12:50:32 PM): I've heard his name from other people, not just Gordy. I think Singe had his doubts about Jeremiahs actions too. Summer I'm just really not getting a Spy vibe from though. But I could be wrong. Jeremiah on the other had is higher on my list. spies4Martha (12:50:57 PM): I agree about Summer. spies4Angelica (12:51:30 PM): If she is a Spy, she's doing a fine job. She's giving just enough to be helpful but not enough to be useful. spies4Martha (12:51:55 PM): Haha, well put. spies4Martha (12:52:20 PM): This is the trouble... there is so little to go on. spies4Martha (12:52:33 PM): And I know, if we pick someone who everybody agrees with, it's going to be wrong. spies4Angelica (12:54:04 PM): I might have to go back and look at my past conversations. See who has said 'I don't think XXX is a Spy'. It's not exactly defending them, but it's keeping their name from being too far out there. spies4Martha (12:55:10 PM): That's just it... people are scared to defend other people, in case of what happened to me and Abrams, OR because they think they might be wrong. spies4Martha (12:55:25 PM): I thought the spies would be quiet this round and just encourage a bit of conflict. spies4Martha (12:55:33 PM): (As they seem to have done very well.) spies4Martha (12:55:49 PM): But they could be more aggressive... I doubt all of them are, though. spies4Martha (12:56:06 PM): I think our best bet, my sweet, would be to look at the people who aren't contributing very much. spies4Angelica (12:56:43 PM): Which sadly would probably be half of my family. Damon and Cain. spies4Martha (12:57:31 PM): Well I am all for taking out an inactive, if they are likely to cost us an exile later on in the game. spies4Martha (12:57:39 PM): They've been online and talked to people though, have they not? spies4Angelica (12:57:59 PM): I've probably seen them both on a total of 3 times. spies4Martha (12:58:16 PM): Well you see, different people have different circumstances. spies4Martha (12:58:27 PM): They could have work or college commitments. spies4Martha (12:58:34 PM): Or perhaps just a family emergency. spies4Angelica (12:58:39 PM): Damon did mention he was sick. spies4Martha (12:58:43 PM): They can't say why they're not around as much as the others. spies4Martha (12:58:45 PM): Exactly. spies4Martha (12:59:19 PM): The thing is, someone who isn't around much isn't going to lose us an exile or cost us the game, they just can't contribute spies4Martha (12:59:24 PM): to the extent that others can. spies4Angelica (12:59:59 PM): But we won't know who might cost us an Exile until after tonight when they fail to vote. spies4Martha (1:00:31 PM): I guess not... :-( spies4Martha (1:00:48 PM): Do you think I'm screwed? :-) spies4Angelica (1:02:11 PM): Honestly, it's not looking good. But there's still time. I'll admit I had my doubts after Lloyd posted that message. Thankfully you were able to put it in perspective. spies4Martha (1:03:15 PM): It was like... spies4Martha (1:03:25 PM): You know when someone insults you and you really take it to heart? spies4Angelica (1:03:31 PM): Yeah spies4Martha (1:04:05 PM): Like if you were really sensitive about your height, say, and someone said, "Go away, you little midget." spies4Martha (1:04:16 PM): And you go to someone else, tell them what's been said, and you're upset. spies4Martha (1:04:30 PM): And that someone else says, "THE ASSHOLE! I tell you what, let's cut his legs off. :-)" spies4Martha (1:04:38 PM): In a joking kind of way. spies4Martha (1:04:46 PM): That's all it was. spies4Angelica (1:05:41 PM): That's why it's so dangerous to post snippets of conversations. You have to be careful of what you include and what you exclude, otherwise it loses its meaning. spies4Martha (1:10:37 PM): Look, I'm going to leave now. spies4Martha (1:10:41 PM): I'll be back later on. spies4Angelica (1:10:48 PM): Ok, take care. spies4Martha (1:10:52 PM): Thank you. spies4Martha (1:11:05 PM): Sorry for asking people to investigate you, because you seem really nice now. :-( spies4Angelica (1:11:19 PM): It's ok, it was with the best on intentions. spies4Angelica (1:11:24 PM): best of spies4Martha (1:11:37 PM): Self preservation always seems like that, doesn't it? :-) spies4Martha (1:11:40 PM): Oh well, see you later. spies4Angelica (1:11:43 PM): Haha spies4Angelica (1:11:44 PM): Bye!
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
Posts: 451
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Post by Zander on Oct 10, 2007 17:48:18 GMT -5
So what's the plan guys? Come on, we only have a couple hours... I'll check any IMs I have when I get back home in a little while.
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Post by Angelica on Oct 10, 2007 18:32:19 GMT -5
The vote is going Kiyoshi, it looks like. I'm voting him because I was part of that conversation that decided to go for an inactive. Faizah is going to vote Martha, because she's been saying she suspects her for the past 2 days.
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Post by Ralph on Dec 7, 2007 1:46:57 GMT -5
wow i was so played by zander and even angelica at this point LLOYD I TOLD U ZANDER I TOLD U LOL
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
Posts: 451
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Post by Zander on Dec 7, 2007 1:50:18 GMT -5
Uh, Ralph, honestly, you're right. I played into exactly what you did and it was so easy to send Lloyd the transcript and play victim. I don't think I was a great spy but when it came to you all I had to do was let you incriminate yourself - the chat transcript proved that you pushed for Martha, not me. As an Orthodox Spy, I SALUTE you, Captain Majority!
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Naomi
Naomi
"Actually since we're a state liscenced company we fall under the exception to the 'No-call list'."
Posts: 50
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Post by Naomi on Dec 7, 2007 2:29:09 GMT -5
I never took advantage of Ralph! (well, once, before he got exiled...I was gonna miss him!)
He was too sweet to manipulate really...
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
Posts: 409
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Post by Masaki on Dec 7, 2007 10:04:54 GMT -5
I didn't either. People near Ralph wound up dead, haha.
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
Posts: 451
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Post by Zander on Dec 7, 2007 13:19:08 GMT -5
Not me!
Though I don't know how, honestly. My confessional is riddled with "How the hell haven't people figured out that I set Ralph up 4 weeks ago?"
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
Posts: 250
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Post by Singe on Dec 7, 2007 13:58:13 GMT -5
Seriously, though, don't lie to Cits about a fake role unless you're fully prepared with a believable reason about why you invented it. Ralph, you got exiled because everyone knew your role was BS, and we didn't understand why you'd confuse all of us with a BS role. If you'd told us that you were covering for someone with a real role, or something like that, maybe things would have gone differently.
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Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
Posts: 451
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Post by Zander on Dec 7, 2007 14:02:11 GMT -5
Singe speaks the truth. I remember my debacle with Anneliese, saying I had a role and then saying I lied and then saying I lied about lying, and then Trina tried to take a page from my book, HAH!
That was definitely hilarious, but at the same time it turned me into an exile target.
You really shouldn't invent a role as a cit... It just damages your side and helps the spies out.
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
Posts: 409
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Post by Masaki on Dec 7, 2007 14:46:47 GMT -5
I think your lying about lying about lying about lying is one of the reasons noone bought the confirmed shit. It did do you good for a while though.
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Adelaide
Adelaide
Heroin Addict Pink Elephant Catcher
Posts: 280
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Post by Adelaide on Dec 7, 2007 16:44:01 GMT -5
Singe speaks the truth. I remember my debacle with Anneliese, saying I had a role and then saying I lied and then saying I lied about lying, and then Trina tried to take a page from my book, HAH! That was definitely hilarious, but at the same time it turned me into an exile target. You really shouldn't invent a role as a cit... It just damages your side and helps the spies out. My made up role from beyond the grave led to Singe being imprisoned, a Fatemaker decision being wasted, partly for Hannah's exile and partly for Zander's exile (3 bad things, 1 good thing!)
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Martha
Martha
Rabbit Catcher
Posts: 310
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Post by Martha on Dec 8, 2007 0:44:44 GMT -5
Seriously, though, don't lie to Cits about a fake role unless you're fully prepared with a believable reason about why you invented it. Ralph, you got exiled because everyone knew your role was BS, and we didn't understand why you'd confuse all of us with a BS role. If you'd told us that you were covering for someone with a real role, or something like that, maybe things would have gone differently. I agree, but at the same time people need to keep in mind that citizens can do what appear to be stupid, irrational things - what sometimes are stupid, irrational things - and still be citizens. (Not that any of us have a history of inventing roles or anything. ) In other words, learn to recognize a frame-up when it happens, because that's the one thing the citizens in this game seemed really bad at. (Although good call with Bunni and with the whole Masaki vs. Kip situation guys!)
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