Zander
Zander
The MISTAKI Catcher
Posts: 451
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Post by Zander on Dec 3, 2007 21:58:42 GMT -5
Ah, Singe...
I don't want to be to mean, and there is tons of nice stuff to say. But I have to start with this point...
I'm sorry that you overrated yourself. You made other people feel like crap because you thought you were so great at times, and the worst part is that it wasn't a character choice, it's just how you were. I'm sorry that you think you were the best spy catcher because you truly weren't, and I'm sorry that you thought you were the best player this season because you weren't. You had a role. And if you were smart, you would have used that role. You were cocky, not brilliant, and that cockiness brought you down.
But beyond that, you actually did a good job. You were extremely active and very fun to talk to. You had a great time in this game, I think. And I had fun with you being here. I'm sorry I had to deceive you, and I think you were a good player (but not as great as you tooted your own horn to seem). I hope to see you back in the future, and hopefully you don't need another humbling first exile elimination like Reicheru.
Many people thought I was a great player in Spies 3. Learn how to be humble - people will like you much more.
Love, Z
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
Posts: 250
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Post by Singe on Dec 5, 2007 11:12:38 GMT -5
Z, thanks for the kind words. My main goal in this game was to keep things lively and I think that worked--so many of us contributed to the awesomeness that was this game. The whole idea of "best players" is retarded for so many reasons. First off, if any one player neglects their duty, the game sucks. Any day when there's an obvious inactive exile is a waste of a day and usually stupid and boring. So everyone who keeps things moving and gives people reasons to suspect or trust is being a "great player". Second, you can't catch spies alone. Without all the citizens working together, you'll never create the complex web that's so vital to trapping spies in lies and inconsistencies. And every strand of silk in that web's as important as any other. I never overrated myself because typically I don't rate myself. I just want to have fun, make friends, and maybe win. As for you suggesting that I should change myself or the way I play, I'll take your feelings into account, but remember, diversity is the spice of life. Your occasional whining, emotional outbursts and occasionally ultra-rational play were fantastic. I'd suggest a thing or two about your behavior but you know what, that's not my job and I really think you should just be you. You're a great guy as is, and I'm mostly satisfied with myself. Your points about "cockiness" and "making other people feel like crap" are taken, with a grain of salt. And I'm sure we'll all get a chance to discuss my role and whether it was well-played or poorly-played. I was never sure, myself.
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Singe
Singe
Roadkill
Posts: 250
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Post by Singe on Dec 5, 2007 12:24:43 GMT -5
Oh, also, if you'd kept me alive at endgame you might have won. I suspected you less than most people, for various stupid reasons. All game long I found you suspicious because I could tell you were an excellent player who was holding back. I also thought you were a lot of fun to talk to when you weren't faking being drunk.
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Post by Judge Sam on Dec 5, 2007 14:39:33 GMT -5
Yeah that is something I noticed. I know the people at the end had to go because they had roles, but nearly everybody who left near the end didn't suspect you at all Zander. Leaving the people in the game who were more prone to voting you out. Like Singe had you as the most likely citizen after Candy at 3% likely of being a Spy. Hannah and Candy too trusted you. Maybe even a few earlier than that.
Not sure what would have been better, but when all your friends left at the end and then you had that emergency, it just all lined up for them to pick you without you trying to manipulate it.
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Kip
Kip
The Spy Catcher ~ Prince Kip
Posts: 196
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Post by Kip on Dec 5, 2007 15:49:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I said it to Tyler (Faizah) on AIM earlier today. Singe should have went over Bunni, and then Candy. I honestly don't see why you guys picked Bunni, all it did in my opinion was strengthen Faizah as being a Spy. I personally don't see how Faizah would've survived either way, but Bunni didn't suspect Zander. After the Hannah Exile (which I'm sure would've occured regardless of who was Imprisoned) you could have taken me or Summer out easily, and you would have been fine. Maybe.
Singe staying to the end would've been good for you kind of as well, but he would have to go before the F3, because of his status as a confirmed Citizen after Faizah went. Unless you knew for sure he'd vote for Damon, or Leon, or whoever you dragged to the end.
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Kip
Kip
The Spy Catcher ~ Prince Kip
Posts: 196
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Post by Kip on Dec 5, 2007 15:50:56 GMT -5
The Bunni Imprisonment, in my opinion, was like the Rashma Imprisonment in Spies 2. Looked good at the time, but in hindsight, wasn't the smartest move.
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Candy
Candy
MVP! Winner of Spies 4!!!
Posts: 156
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Post by Candy on Dec 5, 2007 22:26:34 GMT -5
Sam and Kip are saying opposite things. Sam's saying Zander should have kept me and Singe around longer because we didn't suspect him and Kip's saying Zander should have imprisoned Singe and me earlier.
If it had been me I would have accepted that I was going to lose and imprisoned Bunni and Leon and Damon so Singe and I could win in the end.
OK I would not have actually done that but a girl can dream.
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Masaki
Masaki
One Sexy Spy
Posts: 409
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Post by Masaki on Dec 5, 2007 22:32:31 GMT -5
I would have imprisoned Sam, forced him to rig the exile votes, then release him.
Duh.
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Summer
Summer
Cold Catcher (achoo!)
Posts: 262
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Post by Summer on Dec 5, 2007 22:40:15 GMT -5
I can hear it:
Attention Burg: We have a hostage crisis.
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