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Post by Cain on Oct 12, 2007 16:46:10 GMT -5
Please post all evidence about Candy here.
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Post by Ralph on Oct 17, 2007 1:12:33 GMT -5
candy comes into a chat after imprisonment and says that just for the record she would never imprison lise before a challenge because she is too competitive to get rid of a teammate we were not talking about challenge or imprisonment and she ahd just entered chat this was first thing out of her mouth i do not have exact transript anymore! does anyone else still have this?
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Naomi
Naomi
"Actually since we're a state liscenced company we fall under the exception to the 'No-call list'."
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Post by Naomi on Oct 17, 2007 1:24:36 GMT -5
Ralph has the convo...er, I think he may have given me that excerpt. It was strange. I won't hide it, if any one wants it, just ask.
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Post by Ralph on Oct 17, 2007 1:38:37 GMT -5
i copy and pasted it i thought i saved it but i didnt
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Naomi
Naomi
"Actually since we're a state liscenced company we fall under the exception to the 'No-call list'."
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Post by Naomi on Oct 17, 2007 1:41:33 GMT -5
Nevermind, I thought I saved that but now I can't find it...i guess I didn't. I will say that I did see it, and basically out of no where, candy starts defending herself and her vote. It didn't make any sense, as no one was pressuring her.
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Beverly
Beverly
Candy Lost HAHA.
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Post by Beverly on Oct 17, 2007 2:06:43 GMT -5
UM CAIN DAMON JEREMIAH WERE BASICALLY SCREAMING AT HER TO DEFEND HERSELF SO SHUT UP YOU FUCKING BITCH NAOMI
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Naomi
Naomi
"Actually since we're a state liscenced company we fall under the exception to the 'No-call list'."
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Post by Naomi on Oct 17, 2007 2:35:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry Bev, I can't hear you. Could you please take the di...
not appropriate for the boards? Damn...
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Post by Kate (Damon) on Oct 17, 2007 4:10:03 GMT -5
Am I automatically your go-to name for bitchyness, Bev? When did I attack Candy and make her defend herself?
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Beverly
Beverly
Candy Lost HAHA.
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Post by Beverly on Oct 17, 2007 17:43:20 GMT -5
DO U PPL KNO HOW TO FUCKIGN READ? RALPH SAID CANDY RANDOMLY STARTED DEFEINDING HERSELF I AM SAYING U GUYS MADE HER WHAT DONT U GET FUCKTARD
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 3, 2007 16:57:21 GMT -5
Stop being a douche to so many people. It's not making a good impression on people, and having enough enemies in the end game is not good.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 3, 2007 17:06:09 GMT -5
Candy, I really dont know what to think of you. You're either a great citizen or a great spy. Either way your doing good, but it just could go either way. If your a citizen, you're really being a big help to us. If you're a spy, then you're doing good, because I doubt we'll ever completely suspect you seeing everything you've done. Hopefully what you are will become clear, because I would hate to see something happen to you because it wasnt.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 4, 2007 17:02:53 GMT -5
On the plus side, you're not scared to announce a theory you think is legit. That's something that can't be said about many others. On the downside, your communication skills are horrid at best. If you want to get the most out of people, insulting them and acting like a child when things don't go your way are a perfect example of why you are losing your ties with many of the players. Eventually it will catch up to you, and while I suspect you probably don't care, others do.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 4, 2007 17:03:28 GMT -5
Candy, you have played a strong game thus far, and yet what sort of a position are you in now? You made a risky move by announcing your investigation of Beverly, and yet it paid off. But what is your relation to Beverly's fellow spies now? You have been a tremendous team player and should be commended for that, but how is your personal game? I think that you have done well, but that you could have tried to take some of the focus off of yourself during Beverly's exile. Surely the spies are aware of your ability to sniff them out; but will the possibility of you being in the other spy group leave you suspicious enough to escape imprisonment? Only time will tell.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 4, 2007 17:25:02 GMT -5
Candy is bar none the smartest citizen we have left with us. In another time I might have said Singe but his recent inactivity does not help anyone. I honestly do not see her coming up spy unless she is in the Orthodoxy and even then I'm impressed and I'll be baffled.
Her strategy is a bit rough to deal with - sometimes she can be a bit harsh and scathing, but she still is incredibly intelligent and in my opinion our best hope remaining at winning.
I also think she's gone underrated for a while, and her analyses have helped us decipher a LOT of what is going on.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 4, 2007 20:36:42 GMT -5
You are actually a really good player. What gets you in trouble though is your weird playstyle. You engage with people differently, and people are wary of your probing, ha ha. When you get clever is when they stop being open though, so I don't know how much evidence you're collecting there. But if it works, by all means continue. The good thing is that you're observant, and you know when it's time to look back on things and see the bigger picture. You don't have your head up your ass like a lot of these players, ha ha.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 7, 2007 5:17:41 GMT -5
Candy, you play the game very well. You notice patterns in voting and behavior that will definitely lead us to nailing spies. However, you should always keep in mind that if you don't stay on the good side of certain people, you will always be at risk of picking up "annoyance votes". If you are a cit, you definitely don't want to be in a position where someone votes to exile you at endgame because they don't want a player they dislike to have a slight chance of winning as a spy even if they're not the top suspect.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 7, 2007 5:21:23 GMT -5
Candy, I think you are a smart player but I also think you make people feel like crap about themselves. You think you are THE best player, and while that may be....not only do you make yourself a target for imprisonment...you also make yourself a target for exile by pissing people off if you ARE a spy. Tone it down a little, because you are pissing everyone off.
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Post by Judge Sam on Nov 7, 2007 22:01:19 GMT -5
Would you stop taking things so personally? Talking to you is very hard because you try and pick fights all the time and with everyone. That's not a good way to defend yourself against being a Spy! Because passion does not equate innocence - even Spies are passionate about the game.
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Candy
Candy
MVP! Winner of Spies 4!!!
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Post by Candy on Nov 14, 2007 22:05:35 GMT -5
I'm answering Damon's PMed interview questions here.
1. Who would you say you're closest to in the game? It doesn't necissarily have to be trust or game related but what person or character do you feel you connect with the best.
I had a good rapport with Naomi and helped her study for her SATs (snicker). The girl was a spy but she was fun to talk to. She had a good grasp on the game and was interested in figuring out what was going on.
2. Can you please elaborate on your decision not to share the invesgation of Beverly with the Burg?
I did share the investigation of Bev with the burg. What are you smoking?
You know what the difference is between good and great players? Good players go after what they want. Great players wait and go after what they want when the time is right. The time was right for me to reveal Bev in episode 5.
- I had my immunity so she couldn't make it a Bev v. Candy issue. I could go after Bev without worrying about defending myself.
- Bev was trying to divert votes from Naomi and I wasn't going to sit back and let a spy suspect be spared
- Bev was targeting someone I didn't think was a spy for that exile
- I received a PM from Zander and Hannah saying there was a secret alliance and Bev was in it. I needed to get her out before someone spilled something important
- I wanted to exile Jeremiah in episode 3 and Angelica in episode 4 so I was fine with putting my Bev investigation on the backburner
- I wanted time to watch Bev without her knowing I was watching
3. What have you discerned from the ranking Activity of Round XIII and the reactions of the Burg together?
What's the ranking activity of episode 13, Marty McFly?
- I discerned that Bunni's such an idiot. I got voted the most genuine person still in the game AND the most likely to be eliminated next - and she thinks I'm hiding behind people!
"She doesn't post on the board unless someone else makes a topic, and the reason people make topics is because of what she tells them in AIM. It's like she sets them up to take falls, so she can survive."
Newsflash Bunni! The rankings show you have no idea how I operate.
(and you're a spy!)
4. What is your view of Alliances and their place in a Mafia game?
Alliances based on friendships: Stupid. Naomi and I were friends and I had no problems exiling her. Spies want friends because friends don't vote for friends!
Alliances based on gut feelings: Stupid. The spies are trying their hardest to make you feel like they're citizens.
Alliances based on loyalty: Stupid. Spies will use you and lose you. Get over it.
Private alliances based on evidence: Smart. Very smart. Get the right people together and put the collective brainpower to use. Work together, vote together, exile the spies together.
Public alliances based on evidence: Stupid. Don't tip the spies off to who your allies are.
5. If you had to name two targets to be the likely ORTHO Spies who would they be and why? Do you think they're working together outwardly or is it a private bond?
Love this question. Everyone should answer it.
1. Bunni.
- She became nicer when she got her role.
- She never actually processes input. She'll ask but she isn't listening.
- The Orthodoxy spies wanted to give Masaki the tiebreaker, and she's tight with Masaki.
- The Orthdoxy spies wanted to give Masaki an extra vote and she and Masaki both wanted to exile me.
- She was in the same family as Bev and I still think an Orthodoxy spy was assigned to keep tabs on her.
- She's on fairly good terms with everyone. This isn't really evidence but it's worth pointing out.
- In episode 3 she had "odd vibes" from Naomi
spies4Bunni: well, i can say i probably won't vote for you. i have no reason to believe you to be a spy. spies4Bunni: esp when there's hannah and naomi in our group. i get odd vibes from them.
- In episode 4 she reacted weirdly to the Angelica investigation. She focused on NAOMI, not Angelica.
spies4Candy: You might want to vote Angelica now spies4Bunni: what? spies4Candy: Gordy uncovered Angelica as a spy spies4Bunni: oh. spies4Bunni: and she's outing naomi? spies4Candy: Apparently spies4Candy: It's in the burg spies4Candy: Weird thread, you should go look spies4Bunni: yeah. i'm just now reading through it. spies4Bunni: but, i've always had naomi on my suspicions lists, so it's not a real shock there. spies4Candy: Yeah everyone said they wanted her investigated
- In episode 5 she jumped on the chance to vote Bev, which seems like an opportunity an Orthodoxy spy wouldn't want to turn up
- She wants to exile me this episode - again an opportunity an Orthodoxy spy wouldn't want to turn up
By the way Adelaide was imprisoned for having a role so don't start with this bullshit of "Why didn't they just imprison you Candy?"
My second educated guess is Leon but imprisonment's starting right now and I want this posted before I get the axe.
Thanks for the Interview.
Damon
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Bunni
Bunni
Freudian Slip Catcher
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Post by Bunni on Nov 14, 2007 23:25:35 GMT -5
Newsflash, Candy: That wasn't my response. Candy is near the top of my list because she says whatever she wants, in a rude manner, no less.Guess I'm not the only "idiot" in town.
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Candy
Candy
MVP! Winner of Spies 4!!!
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Post by Candy on Nov 14, 2007 23:50:02 GMT -5
Then I amend my comment to address whatever idiot said it.
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Candy
Candy
MVP! Winner of Spies 4!!!
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Post by Candy on Nov 15, 2007 22:28:36 GMT -5
Answering Bunni's questions:
1. candy, what is your main channel of communication with the people you trust? do you post in the burg for everyone to see, chat with them online, or send out pms?
Chat online.
2. do you think that some information needs to be kept between only certain people, or do you think that it's better to get it all out in the burg for everyone to read? why?
Evidence should be for all to read. Actions on that evidence should be private. Never let the spies know what you're up to.
3. and while we're on the subject of trust, who do you trust MOST in this game? who do you trust LEAST? why?
I trusted Johan the most. He didn't ask for the mystery prize after our family won challenge II - he didn't even care what he got - and that won me over. One thing lead to another as we gave info to each other and he proved to be loyal and trustworthy over and over and over again.
I trusted Bev the least but if that's a copout, I trust Singe the least. He is too desperate for people to trust him and too proud when people do and that makes me trust him even less.
4. say you're suspected by someone. what do you do with those people who would call you out? would you just ignore the claims and call the person a choice name, defend yourself against the claims, or get back at that person by saying that you suspect them as well?
All of the above.
5. why do you think the trads and the fatemaker gave you immunity in exile five?
Bev thought I was her pawn? I don't know.
6. why did you pick bev to investigate? were you surprised at your findings?
I wanted a huge spy or a huge citizen. I was surprised. My next immediate post was "OH MY GOD!!!"
7. we know that you waited to reveal the information to the burg about beverly being a spy, but you said you told two people about it. who were those two people?
One was Johan. The other is none of your business.
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