Naomi's Government File

[Cain]

Please post all evidence about Naomi here.

[Singe]

Naomi comes across as a bit of a propagandist. She's also not above being petty, and I don't equate pettiness with the seriousness I expect to see from Citizens. She's not the only person being petty, but I'm still waiting to see serious spyhunting to rival the cattiness, Naomi.

[Leon]

Leading a big plan towards uniting for a possible spy, this could just be a good cover. Obviously citizens would not go after someone who is trying to help.

The tie-breaker power was passed to Jeremiah, seeing as how she said a few times *that i saw at least, she was passing it to someone in her family, could it be that she meant her spy family?

[Naomi]

No, it's because Jeremiah was in favor of my plan(we worked together on it) and I don't trust you. Masaki said he didn't want it, and I have a strong read from jeremiah thats loads better than the static I get from you leon. But if you want to suspect me for that go right ahead, it seems that you're just jealous that you didn't get it. Are you surprised? You don't even talk to me leon.

And your 'evidence' about me not being exiled because I'm trying to help sounds like 'she's just too citizen to be a citizen' which is a terrible way to determine spy from citizen in forum mafia. That's not saying just to save myself, but I believe that for everyone.

Singe you don't talk to me either so I don't see how you can back up your facts with proof that I'm not trying.

[Singe]

I just read Naomi's last 30 posts. She does three things:

1) Sucks up to people (6 posts)
2) Talks about her plan (20 posts)
3) Defends Jeremiah (4 posts)

I see her as manipulative right now. But I also see her as being manipulated by Jeremiah, and the fact that she trusts him so much is strange at this early point in the game.

She's cast suspicion on Kip and says she'll vote Madison, and she has a strong read on Jeremiah. I'd like to see her flesh out her opinion of those two she suspects, and have her explain her read on Jeremiah. I'd also like to see her opinions on some more people.

[Naomi]

My opinion about you is you're missing half of this game: AIM conversations. That influences more of my suspicions than anything. I've played forum mafia for too long so this forum is boring to me, their is too much going on. It's much better to focus one at a time.

You're not seeing my evidence because its all in a folder on my computer until I need it.

[Hannah]

But if u show no evidence it doesnt help other ppl understand where u get ur ideas/suspicions from....

[Singe]

naomi said:

It's much better to focus one at a time.

You're not seeing my evidence because its all in a folder on my computer until I need it.

1. So you're not worried about getting your "evidence" out there before you get imprisoned? Cause unless I was a spy, that would concern me...

2. Who's your one focus right now?

[Naomi]

Posting every conversation I've had would overwhelm everyone and no one would give it a look. I tell my trusted people my suspicions before imprisonment is posted, so no I'm not really worried about that. I also give them my bits of evidence.

Right now I've gotten really busy so I don't even know if I'll make it to exile in time. And honestly, I'm watching those I trust and giving them one more look over before I begin with people I don't talk to often. You can be the first Singe! ha ha

[Gordy]

I didn't realize we had a deal going on not to vote for each other Naomi.

Though I can't blame ya for getting mad at me when I got mad at Masaki for a few minutes leading to exile 2 for the exact same thing haha.

[Naomi]

It's fine gordy...I got over it. Just let me know when I'm your target next time ok?

[Gordy]

You still want apples by any chance?

[Naomi]

See the black kitty? That's you! ;-)

[Candy]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new sigline.

[Faizah]

In the "spies4youaresafe" or whatever thread last night (I will post the part of the convo when Sam posts the Imprisonment/Mini Mafia chat....we were all talking about who we thought would be gone, then Naomi came in and said something to the effect of:

(people being shocked Naomi was in the safe room)

Naomi: Well maybe they couldnt do it. *wink*

(5 minutes later NO ONE was imprisoned.)

I find this strange.

[Adelaide]

Maybe she has a role!?

[Faizah]

9:08:32 PM) spies4Naomi has entered the room.
spies4Naomi (9:08:39 PM): heeeey
spies4Naomi (9:08:41 PM): sweet
spies4Abrams (9:08:42 PM): Hey.
spies4Naomi (9:08:47 PM): what the hell is going on btw?
spies4Summer (9:08:47 PM): Naomi's safe
spies4Faizah (9:08:48 PM): Wow.
spies4Summer (9:08:52 PM): Angelica's spies didn't imprsion her
(9:09:03 PM) spies4Zander has entered the room.
spies4Naomi (9:09:05 PM): they said they wouldn't
spies4Candy (9:09:06 PM): MAGIC BOY
spies4hannah (9:09:08 PM): omg where is bev?
spies4Zander (9:09:09 PM): whew
spies4Abrams (9:09:13 PM): Hey there, Magic man.
spies4Naomi (9:09:16 PM): which is probably because they can't do it
spies4Naomi (9:09:19 PM):
spies4Candy (9:09:24 PM): What do you mean?
spies4Faizah (9:09:28 PM): Why couldnt they??
spies4Naomi (9:09:32 PM): i don't know
spies4Naomi (9:09:41 PM): but don't you think it's odd?
spies4Faizah (9:09:42 PM): Thats weird to say
spies4Faizah (9:09:43 PM): lol
spies4Summer (9:09:43 PM): Does this have something to do with Gordy?


(heres the chat I was refering too)

[Faizah]

Oh, and also I am just adding the Angelica accusation because it hasn't been mentioned in here.

[Adelaide]

That is REALLY strange.

[Naomi]

Ok, lets put everyone in my place for a sec.

Angelica claims I'm a spy. She also says she will not have her team imprison me. So her intention is to have the town exile me.

Why would she rather an exile for me? A number of things actually, I was wondering about it. One is to just get out a citizen that they don't have to waste an imprisonment on, or perhaps to confuse the trads. But then I thought maybe...for some reason they can't imprison me. And if this is the case, I really fear for the burg on this next exile.

Anyway, when I was safe I mused on this publicly, and now reading it back its easy to see why I caused confusion. I was mentioning that I wasn't imprisoned, not that NO ONE was, because at that point no one knew.

Hope that sorts things out. AIM me with questions.

[Judge Sam]

Try to shut up a little. You can't yell the first thing that comes to mind constantly, and then wonder why people want to exile you. That's the reason you haven't been imprisoned yet. The spies need you.

[Judge Sam]

Spy, Spy, Spy. Im not sure why. It just seems that overtime, I just get the spy vibe from you. Once people got the overall suspicion of you, you seemed to have been desperate to change their minds. Not, Im a citizen, dont exile me desperate. But, Im a spy, dont exile me desperate.

Im not sure what to think of your gameplay, because I just dont get it. I get the feeling you've given up in a way. As if your fate is sealed.

Youre one of those people who I cant explain with words. Who I can only say, because I get the feeling she is, call it weird, but its true. I think that if you're a citizen, then we really need to work on our suspicions.

[Judge Sam]

Naomi is a good player, and a smart person. She's easy to talk to on a one to one basis, and is probably one of the people I am closest to in this game. However, her temper (for lack of a better word) sometimes gets her into trouble, though I can see how she would get upset because of the way some people have been attacking her nonstop. I'm not saying that she doesn't have the right to defend herself against spy accusations, but the personal rebuttals on people's character and stuff doesn't really help anything. If she's a citizen, she needs to talk to the people against her one on one to help them understand why she is not a threat and needs to stay around. If she's a spy, she needs to start thinking about how to get rid of the key people against her.

[Judge Sam]

Personally, I think you're playing a good game. You're unafraid to post, willing to talk to anyone, aware of what's going on, and looking at the larger picture. That's more than I can say for many of the other playes. People have been rude and cruel to you and I think it reflects more on their personalities than yours. The problem you're facing is people resent your intelligence. Screw them.

I still think you're a spy, but I'd use your tactics in future games and hope that the other players admire rather than envy you next time.

[Judge Sam]

You are one of the top suspects in the Burg right now. How did you get yourself into this mess? You say one thing, and then do another. You don't vote for your opponent in an extremely close exile vote. Why? Everyone seems to believe that it's because she's your fellow spy. How can you get yourself out of this mess? You can't. You should have gone with the flow last exile and voted Beverly. She had the tiebreaker and could have chosen you to go anyway. Now you have to suffer the consequences.

[Judge Sam]

You're acting way too defensive. If you're not a Spy, how about pointing out who really is? Seriously, the more you play the innocent card and write lengthy posts about how it's impossible for you to be a Spy, the less I am inclined to believe you. Offer an alternative that has not been offered by someone else. Spy hunt; don't focus so much on self-defense. And cut down your wordy posts, especially when the subject is none other than yourself. P.S. stop trying to sell me that damn advertisement in the yellow pages.

[Naomi]

I'm getting rave reviews!!! lol

I did offer an alternative mr/mrs anonymous, it was the purpose of the Damon thread. I try to state my suspects, but for the most part, who's going to buy it? No one really believed or took to heart my damon evidence. Everyone for the most part dismisses anything relevant I have to say because ZOMG YOU ARES SPIES! If you're talking to me, and you ask for suspects, I'll tell.

Also, I'm not here to...just be here. I'm not worried about existing. I want to get out spies, not vote merely for self preservation. A vote on Beverly would've been just that: Self-preservation.

<3333 the critiques though!

[Naomi]

What the hell?