MORE Sad!!!

[Naomi]

I wish I was still playing...

Sometimes, I type a post in the burg and pretend I posted it...

I talk to the citizens in my head on AIM...

I miss people!!!

[Beverly]

I completely agree. I made some great relationships and put so much into this game, it sucks to know that it can end just like that.. and then it's like.. what now? In a way I just want the spies to hurry up and lose because I want to be able to talk to everyone again. I just wanted to give a big, fat KISSES back to the people who keep saying KISSES BEV!

It's very, very hard not to just say "Hey! I miss you!"

But really, Naomi, what sucks for us both the most was that we both were caught because of an investigation, not by a flaw in our gameplay. It hardly seems fair, when we tried to hard to be in a good spot. I know for a fact I would have gone very close to the end had I not been caught. It's like a knife through the heart!

Johan made a good choice not sending me back in. I would have fucked with their heads so badly they wouldn't know what to do with the information I said. I'm good at that It's a terrible, terrible talent.

[Faizah]

Is it just me or was this the season of:

"If The Spies Somehow Manage to Win Despite All the Citizen Roles and the Fact That Both Groups are Against Eachother I will Eat my Hat."

[Angelica]

I think on the whole, Spies caught Spies more so than Citizens caught Spies. So... go us?

[Masaki]

Emma -> Caught by Sam
Naomi -> Caught by Orthodoxy Investigation
Beverly -> Caught by Fatemaker Investigation

Masaki -> Caught by Zander the Spy/Cit(for the most part)
Faizah -> Caught by Citizens

Game was definitely more against the Spies than Spies 3, however, I don't know that I'd call it unfair just yet. Cross imprisonment never came into play, even before Sam announced it was off. Yet that still allowed for two Spies to be investigated(Angelica and Faizah). Just letting ya know, Faizah, I would have used that "investigation" to your disadvantage if your team decided not to cooperate with me, so it does count as a Spy disadvantage in a sense. The Orthodoxy powers allowed for a 3rd "investigation" -> Naomi. The Fatemaker's investigation, also fueled by the competition between the Spies, allowed for a 4th. Emma's was an automatic disadvantage.

They did exile me fair and square, yet, pending Zander's alignment, that could also be Spy fueled. :-)

The Cits still did a better job than they did last game using what they were given. The Burg has 3 times as many threads this time. MUCH more communication going on.

[Angelica]

Oh, I'm not saying anything was unfair, I'm just pointing out a fact. Some Cits are patting themselves on the back too much in my opinion. If it wasn't for the investigations, I think me, Naomi, and especially Beverly would have lasted much longer. And we were all investigated by Spies, or with the aid of Spies. (We gave Beverly to the Fatemaker, Beverly assured that Gordy used his investigation on me, etc.)

As for there being three times as many threads, I don't give that much merit. Yes, they are communicating a lot more than last time. But five will get you ten that if/when the last Spy is Exiled, someone will look back and point out the one thread where they were on to something, and ignore the 72 other threads where they were way off. When you throw that much up against the wall, something is bound to stick. If someone is able to put together a valid case against the last Spy, then my hat will be off to them. But I honestly don't see that happening. There will be a lot of hearsay and conjecture, and everyone will follow King Singe and Queen Candy. That's my prediction. In which case... meh. Good for them, but I'm not particularly impressed.

[Beverly]

Angelica, I WILL say that it's unfair! I think it was an extremely unlucky disadvantage for the spies to have;

a) SO many investigations out there (there were, what, 7 or 8 by the time I left?)

b) Spies could imprison each other (even if it was only once, that threat is huge)

c) Spies taking each other out when figuring one out (ala Angelica)

d) For the traditionalists, the extra bonuses against them were harsh. Emma didn't even count as an extra member Especially since she was removed on our own imprisonment

But I will say this; Spies isn't suppose to be fair. If it was, it'd be boring. That's why I'm not bitter. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I was in a gold position.

[Angelica]

angelica said:

Some Cits are patting themselves on the back too much in my opinion.

candy said:

When this game ends people will remember me as "the girl who kicked ass all game" and they will only know Damon as "that inactive guy".

You haven't done any big game moves and you haven't tried hard to find the spies. You only talk to the same 2 people every week for your 2 convos. You haven't even made friends because you're such a disagreeable and miserable prick.

So basically you've done nothing for this game and I've done everything.

Thank you for proving my point, Candy. I love you anyway. <333

[Masaki]

I don't think any of us played flawlessly and got 100% screwed over by the setup(I'm not implying any of you said this). However, you both are right in that we the Spies did most of the damage to each other. If we had a means of working together from the beginning, these Cits would probably be on their knees right now. Unfortunately, that's part of the balance that comes with 7 Spies being put into the game. I think we'd do a lot better if we were to all be in the exact same position for Spies 5, but eh, who wouldn't? :-)

As for Candy, the Paris Hilton clone... I thought Sam disallowed players under the age of 16 to play this game? Haha. I'm praying her middle school social mindset is just a tactical strategy, but if she acts this way after the game is over then I really can't have much respect for her as a person. Yeah, I'm sure she'll read this and my confessional, and other people's confessionals, and scream "GET OVER IT", but that's just her own ignorance to how childish she looks. I don't care how "good" you are or how many Spies you "caught". You could play a horrible game, like Ralph, and I will still have respect for you as a person. That is why I can respect players like Singe, or even people who got me/my team good, like Zander, Kip, Angelica, Spies 3 Spies(haha), but not her as long as she has that kind of attitude. Sorry, not going to talk to someone who feels it's necessary to spout insults left and right as they live in their self-righteous fantasy world.